How to Spot a Poker Cheat

[@leslieandclash7030]

Moneytaker had actually just watched ur small stakes exploits video and improved to 90bb/100 winrate

[@MrAdamMcFarlan]

90bb per 100 hands?

[@afwaller]

Knowing all the equities is the real small stakes exploit (also large stakes exploit). In fact this is just a great exploit in general, knowing whether you will win or lose before you bet.

[@emiliomurgia2026]

@@afwalleryeah after much thought I also came to the same conclusion

[@shma12]

The coin flip scenario reminds me a lot of an interview question I heard from a trading outfit - "Would you bet 1000:1 against me that someone in my family is an MLB player?" At first glance, this seems like one of those "guesstimate" interview questions where the goal is to make a rough estimate of the number of MLB players in the US and then work out the odds for some average-size family. But, in fact, what they wanted you to say was "No, I won't take the bet at any odds, because you already know if you have a player in your family, and you wouldn't offer me a bet where taking it would cost you money."

[@matthewronchetti2915]

These cheaters are so greedy. You could use this exploit to print and never get caught. You can play perfectly preflop, folding every time you are on the wrong side of a cooler and you can wait until you're put in a tough spot to use the exploit, such as when you have to call or fold to a river bet, bluff catching with you're reasonable hands and just folding the J high hands where you are good, but can't reasonably call.

[@lpslpslpslpslpslps]

Yeah it makes me wonder how much cheating doesn't get caught

[@Paul_pp]

@@lpslpslpslpslpslps this is what is messed up, There is no way this guy was the only one that knew about this exploit, anyone that plays poker would be able to print with this information and no one would ever know. If I had a month to play with this hack I would make millions and I"m sure others have. Makes you wonder about Bovada and Ignition with no hand histories and ACR has an outage once a month so I don't think they have the best devs over their as is

[@kvnd7331]

The moneytaker group sounds like they want to get caught. Like the purpose of their group is to expose poor security

[@abody499]

​ @Paul_pp that's actually a fact - this particular exploit was apparently published in a blog some months ago. Someone worked it out and informed GG poker and blogged about it. And GG did nothing it seems. Then this happened.

[@Lukas-qf2uh]

@@lpslpslpslpslpslps the one counterargument I've read to this theory is that these kinds of exploits don't stay live for long, which is why these cheaters don't care about being obvious, they're trying to milk it at as quickly as possible since the opening will likely be gone soon

[@Clarencefondue]

The “earful of cider” quote is from Guys and Dolls. It’s often put on as a play, but Frank Sinatra and Marlon Brando did a movie version in the 50s. Entertaining.

[@GRice999]

I think it goes back further than that, like the late 19th century or early 20th. The short story "The Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown", by Damon Runyon (1933), of which Guys and Dolls is based, has it in it. Doyle was born later that same year. Who knows how many iterations it had before it was used in that story.

[@jamespohl-md2eq]

it’s never put on as a play. It’s a musical.

[@EfficientRVer]

@@jamespohl-md2eq Which is a type of play, last time I checked.

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

i thought i saw something about it in Education of Poker player but it has been a long time since i read that.

[@jamespohl-md2eq]

@@EfficientRVer You never checked. Musicals are not a type of play. Lol

[@AtPEACE77]

Why was a person with “no understanding of poker” staked for the game? Also she tried to explain her call with mid level theory explaining and lying about why she called

[@henrygeorge377]

She has a husband and a boyfriend, he staked her(bf) clap 👏👏.

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

@@henrygeorge377 who staked her, her husband or her boyfriend?

[@abody499]

With regard to the Robbi hand, have a look at the video and pause it at 2m 17s. Look at the dealer's eyes and Gman's cards. Then pause it at 2m 57s and 3m 54s and look at her hand. I've never seen that happen before.

[@lewiss7361]

Hi Bart you nailed it when you mentioned the other hand Roby had with Jack High. She thought about calling Garet when he made a full house on the river , she tanked and was going to call with Jack high.JUST TO MAKE A NAME FOR HERSELF.

[@NewEnglandFish]

quick note: those 1bb min-bets are an EXTREMELY common play by whales online in both tournaments and cash. 98% of the time they do it as a form of block bet on every street in order to either get to showdown cheaply with a low pair, or to try and complete their draws without getting priced out. The other 2% of the time they do it in order to induce a raise so they can come back over the top (which is basically ALWAYS a nutted hand).

[@webguy943]

Hella annoying too

[@derekluna7700]

@@webguy943 nah just treat it as a check lol

[@KnightBanditDayZ]

The real cheats are the people acting like pokers profitable for them, then try to sell u sht lmao

[@derekluna7700]

I think people do that when they start losing/lose everything/etc. I live off of 25,50nl fast fold games online and I'm getting pretty close to the point where I try not to tell anyone anything lol.

[@willis4585]

@crushlivepoker I think the outlier in the Robbi situation is that she clearly wanted to stack Garrett. It shows from the 2 other extremely light calls she has made against him. Now either this was done by someone who knew they were going to cheat for a crazy call and was covering their tracks, or it proves that she was a amateur who just got tilted at gman

[@willis4585]

Also I think this proves even if she did cheat, she didn't do it for monetary gain and more for the shock and virality of the call which would propel her career.

[@louie0187]

IMHO, the most damning evidence is that she gave the money back. No way she does that if she was not cheating. Put yourself in her situation. If you did not cheat, you would not give the money back.

[@Private.person506]

Ehh, a woman with little knowledge of poker being berated and mansplained to for her bad play could easily feel feared into giving back money that wasn't hers anyway. I think the kind of person who would be willing to cheat at poker is exactly the person who would not give the money back. If the "most damning" evidence is your subjective assessment of something she did off-camera, that you didn't see and don't have full context around, then there's no meaningful evidence she cheated.

[@louie0187]

@@Private.person506 I said the "most". I watched the hand as well. You state she has little knowledge of poker but yet playing in one of the biggest cash games around. She lied when she she said thought she had a three, yet the camera shows her staring at her two cards for a while, and of course she called his bluff with J high, he could have been bluffing with AK clubs, KQ clubs, AQ clubs, hands that she was behind even though he is bluffing. Also her boyfriend was sitting diagonal from her. Also, the livestream tech guy stole 15k of chips off her stack after she gave the money back, possibly upset he wasn't going to get his share. He was fired (or disappeared) after that. 100% she cheated.

[@mkader2494]

I like and concur with your conclusions on the J4 issue. Very classy, Mr Bartholomew.

[@CancelIFR]

Even with gaming the standard deviation, it's impossible for a 50vpip player to have this kind of win rate over this sample.

[@brianwilson7624]

Someone "stole" 15 grand from her table and she refused to press charges. The person she refused to press charges against had access to the camera that can see the hole cards. She is accused of having access to the hole cards visible on that camera. I think you have to be brain dead to think she didn't cheat.

[@brianwilson7624]

Also, lets not forget that Justin "woke" Bonemo cheated people of at least thousands of dollars and PokerStars hired him as a PokerStars professional.

[@webguy943]

Ok n how did he relay that info to her? Vibrating in her panties?

[@calinator51]

Bart, watch the original video again. She had J3 in the previous hand. I had thought there was a solid chance she cheated until I saw that. That is why she asked "3 any good Garrett?" and when she said "I put you on Ace high" and Garrett said "well why call with J high?" She was embarrassed at that point and just said whatever.

[@jarrodfulton]

Players cheat like crazy online in PA and they do nothing about it , their support is all bots , same 5 players win all the big tourneys , the collusion is disgusting , not even worth playing anymore

[@prob_theory1751]

I agree: Win rate + VPIP + a few sus hands = 99.99% cheating.

[@PhilipJReed-db3zc]

16:30 hang on, what? your math would be accurate for 50 independent events, but take a second to think about. it. Would be cheaters don't roll a 10-sided die to decide whether this is the hand that they cheat or not. Maybe there's a positive correlation because they're dumb and greedy and think they can get away taking as much money as possible. Or maybe there's a negative correlation because they're bright enough to cover their tracks and only do it in a few hands per session. But either way, they are certainly not 50 independent events. Maybe Bayes would work here but depends heavily on your priors about how prevalent cheating really is.

[@miki303100]

It should be highlighted that this was also a big fault on GG's side. The server should never expose this kind of information to the client. Even after GG realized the vulnerability, they patched the client and not the server. Ask any security expert, and they will tell you that this was extremely incompetent. Unless they get a new security team and audit their whole code, there are likely to be more hacks.

[@dblazer63]

My uncle works for adobe and said adobe air hasn’t been supported for 8 years

[@iitstu]

Two things.. its concerning a company as big as GG isn't using supported software. Anywhere that qualifies as a critical vulnerability. Second these are just the incompetent players/blatant cheaters that are getting caught. It's not hard to imagine that there are solid players with an ounce of common sense that would only cheat in close/big spots.

[@Brucer444]

Bart, the cider in your ear story is from the classic 1950s play and movie, guys and dolls.

[@williv]

I believe in my heart Robbi didn't cheat. I need to see multiple examples like Postle, not a one off. I play my little cousins in poker that have almost no knowledge of poker and they'll do exact shit like that. I know it's difficult for people to wrap their heads around a person doing this in a high stakes game, but she's not in that game because she worked her way up.

[@calinator51]

She had J3 in the previous hand. Misread.

[@dunnowhat2us36]

I don't remember who said that quote (could have been Doyle) but the quote was about Titanic Thompson

[@blackbeardgoatjr2434]

Regrading the Robbi robbery, you need to take into consideration all of the abnormal table talk, which looked like collusion, between her and Rip through out the whole stream

[@DanJPall]

My father had a two-headed US half dollar coin when I was a kid. He messed with my brother and I so much with that… 😂

[@abody499]

If he could only see the equities, in the J2 hand he would have seen he was a dog on the flop with 41% to his opponent's 58.6%. Not sure why he would then call the extra 4.9bb. He would have to be able to deduce from those equities that the opponent doesnt have a pair and that his hand is currently ahead. On the turn he switches to a slight favourite, which would then be easier to work out that he was up against a combo draw. The flop call though suggests there's more to it than equities revealed, although not necessarily from the exploit.

[@sarcasticpriest]

Only way I can think of J2 having 40ish% equity and not be ahead on the flop would be being vs a slightly better J high hand, but then he can bluff future streets. Also the guy is clearly not a poker player or at least not really thinking about how to maximally exploit his cheat.

[@abody499]

​ @sarcasticpriest so a guy who is "clearly not a poker player or at least not really thinking about how to maximally..." is going to be capable of working that out on the fly? There's more to it is what I'm saying. I'd bet he has some kind of AI programme working for him to make suggestions of most likely holdings, if not something from the exploit.

[@sethshapiro5973]

It could be that the max way to exploit it is to fire out a 1bb blocker bet, which is exactly what he did on both the flop and the turn. He sets himself a reasonable price to get to the next street, and the opponent probably just calls the 1bb often enough to make it the cheapest way to get to the river. Unfortunately for him, the opponent chose to semi-bluff raise both times, but just enough to still give him the right price to call.

[@Texasfishingfamily]

Seeing that hand and them saying that he could only see the equities makes sense because If im thinking like a cheater, I would never call the all in on the turn if I could see his exact hand.

[@lunchbox6576]

I am taking a year off and just working on my poker workbooks and other books I bought, I am going to save up my money and just go play live poker here in Austin Tx. With so many people playing in countries were a 20 or 30 dollar a day win rate will cover their living expenses it is possible to make a living micro grinding. I have never played above 15 cent 25 cent and ACR sent me a refund because they caught a "Bad Actor" If people are cheating at 25 cent BB level poker what is going on at the higher stakes ?

[@mrhumble2937]

Difference is tho there were so many other suspicious hands. Was just 1 hand with Robbi.

[@higheloshow]

There has to be more then 1 doing this.

[@Bolt24HotSounds]

Occams razor applies

[@daithi1966]

A couple weeks ago I was watching a poker channel where some idiot said he would have called with jack high because he thought his opponent had ace high. Some people are just absolutely stupid. That's what I think happened with Robbi. She's just stupid enough to call. However, that isn't the case in the GG and Mike Postle cases. This isn't stupidity. It is just straight up cheating.

[@6thwilbury2331]

Looking through the comments for Mason Malmuth plugging his upcoming book. Do not see anything. Disappointed.

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

What is the highest stakes Malmuth has played?

[@kevinscottbailey8335]

The other thing that condemns Robbi is her shifting explanations for the call. Also, she wasn't some rank beginner when she started playing high stakes. She was a bad player, but that's different from being a complete beginner.

[@FYT____]

Unfortunately it's sad. We can't play online seriously as of now. You just never know so why risk the money?

[@hponesanaung8221]

But bro , in my Chinese table playing 30$ buy in playing 0.2-0.4$ (USD equivalent) I also average that win rate over a 1000 hand , sometimes even more because there are 2-3 recreational players that all in max buy in every hand for 4 hr straight . Sometimes they also call someone all in with no draw, no pair, 12:44 no over cards at flop. Those guy have sometimes lost 10000$ in a single day in a 30$ (max 300$) buy in table 😂😂😂

[@MonkeyPunchZPoker]

There's a 3rd option with Robbi, she misread/misremembered her hand. To me her actions and reaction lead me to believe she thought she had J3 and didn't want to embarrass herself further.

[@calinator51]

Absolutely this. I'm happy someone mentioned this. She had J3 on the previous hand! Watch the video!

[@CrushlivePoker]

I will never believe that she misread her hand. I have covered that angle extensively. I think she was told to say that make the situation look better.

[@MonkeyPunchZPoker]

@CrushlivePoker I don't remember that part of your videos but right after the hand, before Garrett threw his hissy fit, she did tell him she thought he had Ace high. I would wager she really did think she had Ace high beat when she called. Of course we'll never know for sure but that possibility can't be dismissed. Brad Owen even filmed himself folding the stone cold nuts because of mis-remembering or misreading his hand it does happen.

[@calinator51]

@MonkeyPunchZPoker Ive done it once as well and it was when I thought I had clubs for a flush which I had the previous hand lol. I dont remember Bart mentioning she had J3 previous hand but I may have missed it. Seeing that was very eye opening and is a strong case in her favor.

[@louie0187]

Watch the video, she stares a long time at her cards. She knew exactly what she had. I believe it is the same scenario as GG Poker, she didnt know Gman's cards, she just knew she was ahead equity wise. Was I there? no. Just my .02

[@bipolarminddroppings]

I always tell people, the only time I take a bet when I dont know in advance that I'll win 100% of the time is when I'm playing poker. The examples you gave of prop bets are why, if you're offering me odds of any kind, you have more information than I do and that's not a fair bet. I don't bet on sports for this very reason, the bookies know more than me, I can't win in the long term. I hate cheaters in poker because you're taking something pure, where we are both operating with limited information and it's a battle of minds and turning it into just another gamble.

[@Stockholm_Syndrome]

She cheated! She was staked, right? How can somone stake such a bad player if he does not know she has an edge and can cheat?

[@kenkrouner5640]

The quote is from the musical Guys and Dolls

[@iammark301]

I think it’s possible for somebody with limited knowledge of the game or limited experience to just put somebody on a hand correctly or incorrectly, and then call because of it. We all have our opinions, but I’m convinced there was no cheating here, and a read that may have been even partially inept is what caused the call

[@Peter-zg3em]

Robbi misread her hand. She had j3 one hand prior. That is the story that makes the most sense. She was tired, flustered, doubled down instead of laughing it off, and she gave back the money. It all looks shady, but it isn’t. She misread her hand. She thought a 4 was a 3. It’s the most logical explanation given what went down.

[@Frank27291]

Plot twist! Money taker is Robbie lol😂

[@YoyoDevo]

Robbi being embarrassed at how bad she is at poker perfectly explains all of her actions. She did not cheat.

[@riverbearpoker9118]

Robbi absolutely cheated

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

calling with jack high? that's somebody playing poker for the first time in their life. or somebody cheating.

[@CampVogel]

Robbi was a beginner and wasn't playing with her own money. I think the plan was to make some kind of Hero Call during the stream and get famous off the ensuing clickbait like "Poker Goddess CRUSHES high stakes with ELITE bluff-reading ability!" Jack high was just so ridiculous that it seemed like cheating, and the ghost of Ellix Powers was mocking her.

[@Williy_Nilly]

She clearly said on multiple occasions, "This is solely a bluff catcher." This is not a statement of a novice who doesn't understand the fundamentals of poker. You simply refuse to admit to yourself that you would never have the stones to make such a gangster play. DON'T HATE, APPRECIATE!!!

[@martinvlcek5332]

if the hacker could see the equity of the other players, that means the equity for all players was being broadcast to all players. why? there is no need for that. there's but one answer: the exploit was a house exploit to give their house users, including house bots, an edge. the house is in on it.

[@CEDOAN]

didnt she say she thought Garret had ace high

[@redleg.0]

If Robbi was cheating, it was someone else telling her what action to take. Someone cheating would have folded to Garrett's turn bet because Garrett was more likely to win the hand. Someone cheating is going to have much better spots to put money in the pot. Poste never put money in when the opponent had the better equity.

[@YoungManCoffee]

People who still think robi cheated need to watch finding equilibrium’s (poker KZbin channel) videos on it. They’re extremely in depth. Think she probably just misread her hand and thought she heroed him with J3 and then didn’t know how to act after she realized she made an idiotic play but it somehow still worked.

[@GRice999]

I don't know for certain if she was cheating IN THAT HAND, but she was "colluding" with another player at the table. In an earlier hand, her friend surreptitiously asked her what she folded and she mouthed her hand without speaking so no one else at the table would know she was sharing that information. It was clearly visible in the video. Who know what else went on at that table between them that the cameras didn't catch?

[@YoungManCoffee]

@@GRice999 idk, I mean obviously it’s In the soft playing territory to not give the entire table info that one player receives but that’s not immediately obvious to a relative novice at the game. People sweat each others hands all the time at low stakes and no one really has a huge problem with it. I don’t really see that as evidence of collusion, I mean saying what you folded after the hand is over doesn’t give that other player a huge edge or anything.

[@GRice999]

@@YoungManCoffee The fact that it was done surreptitiously suggests that they new it was wrong. If they are as inexperienced as some suggest, her partner probably would have been more open about it, as would she. Yes, that one incident isn't a huge thing taken alone, and it's possible the better players knew what was going on but didn't care because they were that bad, and that it's best described as SOFT collusion. But that could just be the tip of the iceberg. It would be interesting to see all the camera angles at the table simultaneously for the entire stream to see if there are other incidents of note besides this and the obviously sketchy J4 hand.

[@YoungManCoffee]

@@GRice999 fair enough. In all honesty I am not familiar with much of anything that went on during that stream outside of “that hand”. For what it’s worth I’ve heard others who have combed through it say they didn’t see her make any plays as questionable as the J4 call that would be suspicious. But like I said I am not an authority on it and I’m just going off what Bart and others have said.

[@mrhumble2937]

​@@GRice999? People only show 1 person their hand all the time. Pretty normal imo

[@FriendsForFriends666]

If it was me holding that j4 and I would have said "I called cause you have bs and my garbage is a bit better than yours".... Because I know my own strategy and thoughts! Robbie said "I thought you had an ace". Cheating verified 100%

[@lonnieshaw3347]

I’ve played against moneymaker plenty of times in 50c/1$ and 1/2. Don’t remember anything that really jumped out at me

[@seanariamd9581]

seriously trying to say that the hustler thing wasn't cheating is ridiculous. And you say nothing else has come out, maybe because Hustler covered everything up. Almost 30% of the people that play on that stream since have been accused of cheating or being involved in cheating scams etc

[@victorarshavskiy4216]

Robi could misread her hand even though she said she did not. Is not that the most plausible explanation?

[@loco4dogg]

Maybe a K or an A but not J high. Even a beginner knows not to with J high.

[@Broke_Stacker]

There is a difference between impossible, and statistically impossible.

[@mattfox5933]

Does anyone know if on GG poker is the deck in constant shuffle until the last action then a card is revealed??

[@topthecat2259]

Scammers abound in poker....end of😢

[@cloud-seven]

ROBBI OUTPLAYED HIM. She had a 50/50 chance he had complete air, going off of how he plays, not too hard to figure out. The way you understand the game is less intuitive Bart. The way she understands it is that in that spot, he's bluffing A LOT. 50% of times. So you said she called down once and was wrong, the second time she got it. Poker is a MACRO game, you are focusing on your intellectual brand of non-emotion poker. Your approach is flawed.

[@CrushlivePoker]

I assume that this is a troll. Well done sir

[@nitemareman1]

Online poker is dead, and has been so for many years.

[@asb3pe]

For us Americans, it died on April 15, 2011. Don't get me started. sigh For years I've been angry as a hornet, but after more than a decade I can now admit that - just perhaps - our government may have saved us from corrupt site operators (but that wasn't why they did it, of course, they were only worried about themselves as usual, meaning the uncontrolled outflows of Federal Reserve Notes from the country).

[@nitemareman1]

@@asb3pe Correct in practice, but don't give govt the credit. It would have become clear soon enough, what with HUDs and RTA.

[@EfficientRVer]

Bart, your analysis of the Robbi situation is spot on. I feel even more strongly that there is zero evidence, having checked out every claim that there was something fishy in the video. I spent hours looking at the full-resolution video, at every useful speed from real time down to frame by frame. The leg/outfit buzzer theory is wrong. The internal buzzer theory can't 100% be proved wrong, but the evidence for it is weak. Both require accepting the "it wasn't signaling the cards, or even the equity,, but only whether ahead if shown down on the current street" theory, combined with a "automated signaling system" with zero poker intelligence for choosing a sensible spot to cheat. Plus it required that system to only be in operation for that one hand. The one video quirk which had me thinking cheating, until I totally disproved it, was the "blinking LED" theory. But that, conclusively" was not a green LED under her outfit, but sequins on her outfit occasionally reflecting a stage light which passed through a green Perrier bottle of all things. As to poker skill level, I call it 50% a rank beginner mistake like you did, but 50% "a little knowledge is dangerous" at a slightly higher beginner level of skill. She was recently learning about blockers. Garrett's 3-bet shove smelled like a huge draw to her. There were only two plausible huge draws that she could put him on, and she ACTUALLY DID block the only one which beat her own hand. Combine that with being affluent and playing with other people's money, and she decided that despite horrible actual hand strength, the blocker was indeed a technical excuse to bluff catch with that, instead of for instance with a set-mining pair that hadn't hit a set. Throw in that she took a polygraph, despite having an attorney husband who no doubt implored her not to, and I simply find her to be like any inexperienced 1-2 player making a super ambitious call based upon being fed up with being bluffed, and having both a read and a tiny technical excuse to call. She had been itching to bluff call Garrett for quite a while, and chose a shocking (to GTO players) time to make a stand. Remember, she had checked and minraised the turn, before Gman shoved. It was a pissing contest of who could bluff whom. Calling off is a horrible way to try winning a bluffing contest, even when you know the bluff is more likely a high-equity draw than that you're drawing dead. I love that she got fed up, called off, and then got lucky and won both coin flips. Awesome hand. The game is so much better without Garrett sucking up the chips like a Shop Vac. One thing I've not been able to rule out, is that everyone who says "If the cheaters weren't so greedy, they'd never get caught" might have been staring at exactly that in the person of Garrett. Strong player, but more importantly with good self discipline. Let's say he had an insider cheating setup there. Is he smart enough to pick the right spots to cheat and not be suspected of it? His best fans and worst haters can all agree on that one, a huge yes. How would he have reacted if he realized the cheating ring had double crossed him and cheated for someone else? Pretty much exactly the way he did react. Shock, disbelief, horror, and deciding to run, not walk, away from the game. There is no hard evidence that anyone ever cheated on HCL. But if I were told that exactly one person had cheated, and I'd go to Heaven if I guessed right, and Hell if I guessed wrong or didn't guess, my guess wouldn't be Robbi. It would be whoever had the most God-like play, to quote Joey Ingram, over a nice long run. I'd make a list of who the big winners usually were, who is smarter than Postle, and narrow it down from there.

[@mkader2494]

Has DNegs issued a statement yet?

[@pakishag89]

Lmao thank you for calling out Mason for his bullshit comments in the 2p2 thread

[@unterdog]

Normally we all must stop playing online Poker . This Sites become more worster

[@coleclark6866]

bart, J4 was cheating you cant go back on that, especially with the money lifted off the table

[@jambreakfast4341]

I’m POSITIVE there’s a cheater in my online local casino poker room.

[@pot_kivach160]

how?

[@GRice999]

@@pot_kivach160 Well, if he's the cheater he'd know for sure. 😉

[@FriendsForFriends666]

The bots made (at least minimum) 10mil on few months. You'd have to add all the winning players results and still won't get 10mil profit. And they played mtts which is supposed to be the safe place 😂

[@ILmachiner]

I got cheated last week at talking sticks.

[@byroncastillo3132]

Never play on line is not secure, my wife was playing a local casino on line and she hit the jackpot of $5500 and then the screen went black for 2 seconds and back to normal NO JACKPOT, call customer service 🤣😂🤣😂🤣they didn’t see nothing out normal so NO payout

[@ridingstuffed]

So, there is a consensus that Robbie cheated?

[@iamamishiamamish8155]

I'd say there is a consensus that she likely cheated, but it isn't as definitive as it was with somebody like Postle. There are also Robbi holdouts, like I think Negreanu is.

[@CrushlivePoker]

Are you sure about that. There certainly isn’t a consensus in the comments here.

[@iamamishiamamish8155]

@@CrushlivePoker No, I ought to have worded my comment a bit differently. let me say instead that among the players who have expressed an opinion, more than 70%-ish think there is more than an 80% chance she cheated. Obviously I'm trying my best to aggregate a bunch of opinions I've read. You're more plugged in than I am though so if you think differently, you are probably right.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

I think Robbie is just not that good at poker (relative to the level of table she was at) and got lucky in that hand.

[@99vargass]

I've seen plays like Robbie lots of times in our home games. People have a "read" that you're bluffing and will call down with a hand that can't beat a bluff. They feel strangely over confident they made a good play because they have some limited poker experience. Doesn't happen with pure beginners or experienced players, but players like Robbie with a little experience and some bit of success. This is what i think happened in this case.

[@EfficientRVer]

Yep, enough knowledge to be dangerous. Plus, it wasn't even her own money. Time to play a hunch, make a stand.

[@ishh3655]

I don't know how anyone trusts online poker

[@ticenits1926]

Don’t worry guys, he couldn’t see your cards, he just always knew if he was ahead or not. Like wtf lol

[@speakinfaxonly21]

And you can figure out what somebody has based on equities literally 99% of the time.

[@loco4dogg]

That's it, no more 1/2 cent poker for me.

[@stevenheeley5269]

didnt she think he had "A" high.

[@Mr.Muckington]

Everyone knows moneytaker is moneymaker and yall doubting are just haters. Mike Postle

[@ryanbahnsen6429]

Yeah. This is why ill never play online unfortunately

[@scottkay483]

anyone got this guys won at showdown % lol

[@faismasterx]

It seems like there's always some cheating scandal or another with online poker. Just don't play online poker. LOL

[@sneakkyz3696]

This just goes to show even more than Robbie cheated Garrett

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

test.

[@pot_kivach160]

Food for thought for statisticians: If a coin toss is 50/50 on the long run, then each individual coin toss is not independent.

[@Private.person506]

This is the opposite of true.

[@CrushlivePoker]

Umm no

[@webguy943]

Tell ur statistics teacher that n watch them laugh.

[@pot_kivach160]

Online poker integrity??

[@livinaskipp8354]

ooh surprise surprise on line poker cheating

[@victorarshavskiy4216]

Robi could misread her hand even though she said she did not. Is not that the most plausible explanation?