How to Stop Seeking

[@EllaSqueaks]

I came here because of seeking.

[@leeriley2880]

same

[@shinrinyokumusic1808]

I wanna seek together with you.

[@Omgodspeed]

Same!

[@silverhandle]

You came here because you know who you are is beyond seeking :)

[@randylayhey]

I'm looking for me You're looking for you We're looking in at other And we don't know what to do

[@MikeSeekingNoMore]

I sure can relate to this. After 45 years of beliefs instilled since I was a small child and 35 years of seeking. At least I am here now. Everything I believed is utterly destroyed. This lifetime habit of thinking is what remains and a suppressed mourning. This awakening seems to be hiding in simplicity.

[@cmm0606-s2g]

Grace to all of us. I feel your comment 🙏🏾.

[@curb2ivanic414]

When I watch your videos it feels like I’m having a conversation with you right now, even though you made them at another “time”. (Conversation isn’t quite the right word but I can’t think of a better one.) Thank you.

[@alfreddifeo9642]

Thanks for pointing to the way out, 🎯♥😶 🙏☮ wishing love, grace, courage and understanding for all. Please keep reminding us to stop ghost riding life. To Stop look check into yourself to see what is IS already here, because It does help. Thank you and thanks to all known and unknown for sharing truth. I'm enjoying meeting you all here. Through your grace Angelo Gratitude to you Thank You

[@dar_jada]

No doctrine, no dogma, no BS, no identity to maintain= freedom/peace..Thanks for helping us let go of conditioning. ❤

[@SnakeAndTurtleQigong]

I love Ramana Maharshi’s story about this. We imagine that the spiritual drive is like a stick that we used to poke the fire and help it burn. Eventually, once all the logs are being consumed evenly, you toss the stick in, too. 💙🙏☯️

[@Jhawk_2k]

I really like that wording at the end. Pushing and pulling works for some people, but I definitely resonate more with, "don't try to *make* anything happen, or *prevent* anything from happening"

[@EllaSqueaks]

I appreciate the longer pauses between sentences, it helps the pointing to solidify.

[@brushstroke3733]

Amen to that! When someone speaks without pausing (which is very common these days, especially with jump cuts) it all becomes gibberish to me. My brain needs time to process what is coming in.

[@VeritableVagabond]

The practice of letting of thoughts feels good. It’s like getting more absorbed into real life and that’s gratifying. That enjoyable feeling practice alone can end seeking. Because where are you even going. The joy is happening now.

[@jeffatkins1691]

Thanks for the Great news! I'll be sure to tell my friend Joe in Milwaukee that it's nothing personal😁

[@macparker3549]

Hello, Angelo, Several times now, I’ve heard you try to address various forms of this frustration expressed by your listeners. I always hear wisdom in how you speak to this, yet I likewise always feel that you are perhaps missing one element. Even in this post, about how to stop seeking, the talk is full of pointers about what to do, what not to do, and how to do it. Surrender. Let go. Don’t try. Don’t try not to try. Etc. I have no question that these pointers work for many people. I have no doubt about your sincerity, or the sincerity of many people who have “woken up“ because of these messages. I have listened to many of their stories gratefully, even met some of them, and been so inspired to learn of potentials I never knew of. I’m not a doubter or a skeptic. But I am someone for whom this falling away process seems to be happening in a rather different way. I’ve never had a “First awakening.” Inquiry has never felt like a vibrant, meaningful process to me. I have no clue what it means to, “Just let that shit go.” Again, I don’t question that these things and pointers are meaningful for others. I’ve seen it, I’ve heard it, and I’m glad for them. Some of them have become my true and dear friends. However, the more I’ve come to accept that all of this seems to be happening in very different ways here, the more I can understand why people feel frustrated by a teaching style that always seems to encourage things that never actually happen In their/our experience. In a way, I feel like you’re creating another Zen, another “way to do this,” And honestly, I think that’s part of the frustration that you’re hearing from some of your listeners. I find this “how to awaken“ approach to be quite subtle in your teaching, but less and less subtle and more rigid in some of those who are teaching in your wake. I’ve heard a lot of repetition in your followers who have become teachers talking about “first awakening,” “Shadow work,“ “Deep stage realization,“ almost in a rote manner, as though this had somehow become a generally accepted “way this happens.” I read your book carefully enough to believe this is not what you intended, or what you want to communicate to the multiplicity of people experiencing these transformations in countless and unique ways. Of course, I know you always say that “this” will happen differently for everyone. But I submit that there might be value in your considering that the frustration people express is not ONLY the product of the mind’s incapacity to comprehend what is beyond it, but ALSO, however, subtly, because even your brilliant and heartfelt teachings have become yet another way that people are feeling pressured to be something other than exactly who they are, exactly where they are. I hope you will be able to feel the depth of gratitude and respect I have for you and these teachings. And that it’s exactly that gratitude and respect which leads me to make this comment. 🙏🏼🔥💙

[@FlamingoCupcake28]

Wurd 🙌 doubt can creep in when it feels like your experience is being invalidated

[@macparker3549]

Thanks, Flamingo. 🙏🏼🫥🌻

[@macparker3549]

Thanks, FC. 🙏🏼

[@macparker3549]

Vvv2k, Thanks for this. To be clear, I’m not doubting Angelo‘s integrity, or the depth of his realization. I’m just trying to point out an element of how these teachings are presented, which might be contributing to the frustration he mentions…

[@silverhandle]

@@vvv2k12 They are teachings for humans with egos. Because you are not awake :)

[@sharpcanines3347]

Yep I came here while doomscrolling thru my existential birthday crisis

[@Kishab-ow3qg]

Good news indeed, what a relief to know that no amount of seeking can actually thwart this. I can stop resisting the seeking thoughts/beliefs or at least accept my resistance and often complicity with that whole apparatus. It really feels there's a way to accept the seeking mind and remain at rest even with the discomfort that arises. Thanks so much for all the clarity.

[@justinlaplante8334]

"Simply Always Awake"....roll credits!

[@SuperScre4m]

why choose to worry when i can choose to trust?

[@dar_jada]

Last four posts have been so helpful!

[@Hyp3rborean]

We've had one seeking, yes. What about second seeking?

[@leeriley2880]

i suffer more while seeking

[@shinrinyokumusic1808]

I suffer more from seeking mundane things that for spiritual enlightenment

[@johnirish1018]

Thank you thank you thank you!!! 😊🔥🙏

[@parthopdas]

> I'm doing it with heart. 💯 Love you bro.

[@brushstroke3733]

Now what? It's easy to see that seeking is just another movement of the mind, and that trying to stop seeking is also just another movement of the mind. Watching the thoughts as if I am the watcher just reinforces the mental illusion of me. All of my interests have turned to bland ash. I am in limbo, feeking like a person but seeing that's just a thought. Nowhere to go, nothing to do. Tired of sitting. Tired of lying down. Tired of walking, riding my bike. Tired of eating. 😶

[@deestraw]

It is just a phase, everything changes, it happens to most of "us" when all energies in the body shift so much. The nervous system is readjusting to a new way of working with the neural pathways not firing up like mad, and the cortisol and adrenaline etc going down. After resting you'll bloom this spring with the sunlight, you'll see

[@TPot1222]

@brushstroke3733 Have you begun to bloom yet? I am in this place of apathy and fatigue now- 7 months after you posted this. How are you doing now?

[@brushstroke3733]

​@@deestrawThanks for your lovely and hope-giving response. I hope that spring you mention comes soon. I just want to get up and live again and stop avoiding the day-to-day humdrum and morasse. Merry Christmas and/or Happy Holidays to you. I can't wait until we're past them.

[@Stefan69whatever]

"This is about the nature of identity itself." That understanding has to be at the core of the process. It's what we try to avoid as long as possible. On the one hand the spiritual seeker is the same old ego mechanism (like any pleasure seeking or happiness seeking) but on the other hand it is the ego's last defense. Because what content is it seeking? What experience? It has no idea. And because of that it stands a good chance of seeing its own fundamental silliness, the silliness of seeking something to find completion when there cannot be anything that is not spirit. Its very nature is believing that there is something else, something more, something separate. So the spiritual seeker may find out that the words "spiritual seeker" are contradictory in themselves. In other words the mind finds out that it doesn't make sense in an ontological way. We don't need a reflection to make sense of the original. The reflection is just a distortion. This sounds like a frickin lecture, apologies.

[@Stefan69whatever]

"Silliness" sounds like comedy but when you are very invested emotionally in the seeking it also works as a tragedy, here's how: For a while it may be interesting to think about and strategize about Awakening but when that loses its juice what is left? A depressed, frustrated seeker because as usual the fun was borrowed through anticipating a desired outcome. So here's the final disappointment. The last tragic story that needed to be told, maybe.

[@maorliberman4280]

The mind is an infinitely long dead end road 🐒

[@Aum_shantishantishanti111]

Thank you this was very helpful like Candace oh Denver says stop taking your self to be some thing

[@JenCopelandsVideoLibrary]

I bought Dr. Patel's book, Spiritual Anatomy. Following its meditation guidance of activating five heart region chakras and eight mind region chakras, I'm able to break free of the thoughts and attain a quieted mind. It's funny to watch the odd, stray, random words arising every so often, like bubbles in water. When I activate the 13th chakra, it's a whole different viewpoint, wordless.

[@lindsayhaskins2848]

Hello Angelo :) Thank you for all that you are doing ❤️ ❤️ I am just wondering..Is "Awakening" the same thing as "ego death"?

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

It would depend on who is using the term (I don't). I generally hear it referred to as an experience with psychedelics, in which case, no it isn't :)

[@themeep2494]

Personally, I've never done anything, it just happens, and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it except pay attention, if it's even me doing that, have no clue

[@Jhawk_2k]

I remember being existentially troubled by this when I was around college age. Feeling this deep sense of doom that I've never actually made any decisions and that my whole life was decided by others. With that belief dissolving the world opens up

[@themeep2494]

@Jhawk_2k every shift large or tiny has a spontaneity to it, I mean attention goes where it goes, one moment I'm wrangling clueless and the next, it's landed and the shifting occurs, not always in a linearfashion. What part did I actually play in all that? I trust so deeply now that even when there is a preference here, I accept something else. Shadow work is not pretty though, and it never ends.

[@kazumawarren]

Thank you Angelo 🙏

[@jimbrazil8517]

Awesome video!

[@grants1954]

Geez... Downward, downward, below the thoughts. Which thought? Yes. That one. Arrrtggghhhh. 🎉

[@JakubTadeusz95]

Thank You❤

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

You're welcome 😊

[@n-xsta]

5:02 🥹🙏🏾

[@imranganiy2836]

I think I missed the live. Couldn't find the schedule anywhere, how do I get to the next one? Thank you

[@MateuszKamiński-z6o]

how\

[@PaulKininmonth]

Blissfully invalidated 🙏

[@jamwall1]

I think the spiritual teachers who have any level of credibility (Angelo, I think you're among those folks) seem to understand that their task is to almost use the mind against itself to show us how unreliable it is. Suffering being the teacher. Stirring the fire with a stick that'll ultimately get consumed by the fire. My emotions and thoughts lately have been ranting and raving and stupider than in the past. I think it's showing me that I can't rely on the whims of the mind. It's a non-work in progress. :)

[@HappeningAlong]

this illusion is very violent, always trying to shape reality to its will. a dictator trying to control and impose force... that's a sad, painful, existance. the worst part is: it can't stop itself, but, oooh, it trys so very hard haha

[@kkhdeir1256]

Angelo, in your experience, is the awakening process reversible or irreversible? for example, when someone has reached a certain stage in the realization process, can they revert back to a less awake state, or is it a straight path to complete liberation with no looking back?

[@BridgesOnBikes]

How is Joe in Milwaukee by the way?

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

He’s going pretty well actually. The gerbil farm was slow to get going but it’s thriving now

[@cg3536]

Is it possible that these thoughts about seeking are just appearing? Is it possible they are appearing in awareness and not to a someone?

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

Is awareness a substance in which objects appear?

[@cg3536]

@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Is a field a substance in which awareness appears?

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

@@cg3536I would say no. If this is referring to direct experience rather than conceptuality then it becomes clear that there is no field, no background, no awareness apart from objects of experience. Once that clicks it cannot be unseen.

[@Ballsmasher69420]

Includes thoughts that say "I should have friends, I should have a girlfriend, I should be social, I should find s*x" that are about life and not about seeking awakening? They bother me so much telling me that there's something wrong with simply existing...

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

That’s right! These are ghosts , nothing more :)

[@Ballsmasher69420]

@@SimplyAlwaysAwake thanks G, how about the emotional state underneath them? I mean I don't know if the thoughts put me in that depressive state or the emotions produce the thoughts, any recommendations and insight about the emotional state?

[@ravanti5780]

No In, no out, no here or there, no cause or effect, just this

[@XOXO-mb2vh]

Unknowing

[@stefanul]

Seeking how to stop seeking

[@mpeniak]

Seekers united 😅

[@HasItEverNotBeenNow]

Does this mean I should stop practicing/trying? Should I also discontinue working with a teacher and cancel my upcoming retreat? If trying to awaken doesn’t help, then I truly don’t know what I’m doing anymore. I’m only seeking the end of seeking and suffering. I say “only,” but I mean, it’s not as if I’m looking for superpowers here, I’m extremely conflicted here. If anyone here knows, please advise me. 🙏❤️

[@VeritableVagabond]

Practice is required and the practice is to let go of identifying with thought and rest in the gap. If there’s any conflict in your mind about non-life threatening issues let that go immediately. All worry is useless. All liking and disliking, useless.

[@HiluT]

❤

[@cosmicsalamander]

❤