How To Tie An Indicator Rig For Small Stream Nymph Fishing

[@philipnicholas9371]

Thanks

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks so much Phillip, really glad you enjoyed this video! Have you got somewhere you could use this rig?

[@philipnicholas9371]

@@IBandAndyFishing Yes, there’s a small chalk stream near us called the river Nar. This rig will work in places there.

[@Nicktgrief]

I learnt to fish on a little river in Wales that was only 8 - 10 feet wide ... a lot was in forestry I found it great - I was only 10 at the time :D - as 9 times out 10 you could see the fish you were after. WIsh I could fish it now great fun 50p for my rod from woolworths and 37 1/2 p for a reel from a little angling shop ... and £1.50 for the rod licence :D ... happy days. great instructional video Andy, good to see the little stream made you think.

[@ascot1049]

This is brilliant, hope you keep it up . The challenge on dry fly ,can't wait.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks buddy, soon be dry fly time!

[@chrisbritton5009]

Another excellent video Andy. Very clear explanation of reasons for each piece of kit, you're as good at these as you are at fishing now!

[@IBandAndyFishing]

That's a real worry Chris! 🙈😂 Many thanks for taking the time to both watch and comment 👍📽

[@chrisbritton5009]

@@IBandAndyFishing It's a positive Andy, you're a natural presenter. Given that, I'm sure you're an excellent Guide/Tutor. How would I find out your availability?

[@flyfishing1988]

Just what needed to learn. Cheers dude

[@IBandAndyFishing]

fantastic, glad to help!

[@kathylewis4071]

really enjoyed this Andy.. many thanks

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks Kathy, always appreciated!

[@bigron8346]

Great video! Over here in Northeast US it's really cold with a lot of snow so we can't wait for trout fishing to start and i will be trying out your setup. Thanks Andy.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I've been keeping an eye on the weather over there, you guys are really copping it! Stay safe and warm!

[@blondie853]

enjoyed the small stream videos.Looking forward to trying it myself asap.Thanks Andy.

[@peterwelsh9509]

Very informative Andy thanks.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

No problem Peter, thanks for watching!

[@kerrypitt9789]

Andy just in regards to a rod length observation you discussed. I carry a long rod and a short 2wt rod. I find on a couple of cutthroat streams with clear water, I can stand behind a tree or bush and sort of high stick nymph for the fish. The 2wt is for casting on the pools when the water is right. I know not everyone likes two rods but I hate totally changing from one rig to another. Great video! I appreciate the information!

[@tomhammerton4420]

Great video Andy, thanks, that answered all my questions. And I totally agree - whatever works to catch fish. No need for snobbery. I'm definitely going to build a rig like that. I've had a lot of trouble with indicators. The sticky-back foam pinch on indicators were always coming off and I stopped using them as I did not want to pollute the stream. I tried the putty type, but they just made a mess. I ended up dispensing with indicators and just using a big Chernobyl Ant instead but there is no adjustment there. Keep the videos coming :)

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I too fell out of love with the sticky indicators when using them how they're designed, so wasteful. Using them this way though they last pretty much as long as you want! 👍👍

[@markhall5251]

Awesome info as usual mate...thanks for sharing :-)

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Cheers Mark! 👍👊

[@alexbacon9789]

Thanks for explaining that, Andy. I asked you about the rod length a couple weeks back, partly because I bought an 8 foot rod and as of yet have struggled to find a use for it.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

It's a funny rod the 8'er, I used to use it for a lot of stuff but I'm finding I use longer rods for most things now. Your 8' will make a fine dry fly rod, and because its short and light you'll be able to fish with it an dry long with techniques like the duo rig 👍

[@andrewplayer9923]

The micro swivel was a nice idea, I will certainly be trying that out, Thanks for the vids.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Great stuff Andrew, thanks for watching and for the message 👍👍

[@williestew68]

Another great wee vlog 😊 I really like that simple little set up!! I actually made half a dozen or so of your indicators using the sticky foam a while ago. I haven't actually used them properly yet, but trout season isn't far away and I think I'll give them a try on my local water. It's small and tight, I use an 8ft6 rod which I'm sure will be fine for this method 😁 like I said, the Calder I fish is narrow and there's a lot of tree cover, sometimes right down to the water level, so playing a fish or even striking can be a challenge!!! My wee 8ft6 is perfect 😁

[@stephenbuckham1812]

Great video as always thanks for sharing

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks for watching Stephen!

[@ericlong9085]

Thanks enjoyed that,what float stoppers are you using

[@brendanshaw6189]

Thank you Andy! that answers my questions perfectly! Awesome.... as always :)

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks Brendan, hopefully some of it makes sense 🙈😂

[@ethanrush4562]

Great video Andy 👍🎣. Will try this set up on my local river when it comes out of flood 🦟🎣

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks Ethan, let us know how you get on!

[@stevehubbard1954]

Hi Andy totally agree with your method,caching any fish is all about presentation. Tight lines

[@IBandAndyFishing]

We definitely agree on that one! Thank you and tight lines!

[@stevehubbard1954]

@@IBandAndyFishing Hi Andy just a heads up on the quick hook links that got a mention recently. I purchased the 25 pack of small ones and they are ultra small, now the downside they are a nightmare to change out flys on the bank I needed forceps and piers. Personally I will stay with tying to the tippet rings.

[@MrSofthackle]

Thank you for the informative video. I can see there are a few streams that I can use this French nymphing leader on. One in particular is a low gradient stream that is loaded with small brook trout. I’ve done very well fishing it with dry flies but I think this indicator system may work better. It has a very uneven bottom and you can go from ankle deep to chest deep in just a few steps. Fishing with nymphs can up my game. Thanks again for the video.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks Dale, it sounds like you've got the perfect spot for this sort of rig! Let me know how you get on will you?

[@alexargyros7186]

I love this video, Andy. Thank you. A few questions, if you don't mind: 1. Would it make sense to use a similar rig for medium to large streams. That is, what would be the advantages/disadvantages of using your indicator rig in the place of typical Euro rig in larger rivers? 2. Do you use a tippet ring for your droppers even when Euro nymphing? BTW, for some reason, I can't see your answers to previous questions. Again, good work. Alex

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Hi Alex, thanks very much! I use something quite similar on bigger rivers, but there isn't any reason why you wouldn't be able to use this set up too, just add a bit more foam for added buoyancy (I didn't need this in the shallow streams). I use tippet rings for basically everything these days, including euro rigging. It makes everything so low maintenance.

[@cpx1954]

Looks like a very good idea, I must get some of those foam "thingys" from Mallon & Green and give it a whirl on the Derwent at chatsworth! Thanks for the info and keep "channeling" !!

[@IBandAndyFishing]

thanks Colin, we're trying to channel, it's not been going very well!

[@paul40925]

Nice one Andy!

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Cheers Paul!

[@mrintresting256]

Hi Andy and IB …..love your videos and particularly the indicator rig used in this video. Do you have any more info on how to put it together as it goes a bit fast for me. Thanks

[@matwatson5383]

Great video as always. I'm going to be nymphing the river dearne which is very similar to the stream you fished in the vlogs. I have some thingamabobber indicators which I think will do the same job as your set up.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I'm sure they will Mat! The reason I went away from thingamabobbers and fish pimps is that they land pretty heavily, but they'll definitely fish as effectively as this rig 👍

[@miggru1952]

Great! Keep on !✌️

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks Mig!

[@kevinpritchard1413]

Wonderfully clear. How much benefit do you get from the heavy mono French Leader rather than e.g. 0.20 mm monofil straight through?

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks Kevin! In this instance very little, but once you start throwing light flies further you really w the benefit of the taper 👍

[@bensockett9345]

Would something similar work with a 9ft 5wt on the river Don in Sheffield? How would you approach nymphing with a 5wt? I know it's ridiculously heavy but I want to try it first to be sure it's for me before buying a dedicated set up. Great channel by the way plenty of useful information and tips.

[@russellthompson2947]

Good watch mare cheers

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks Russell!

[@MrSofthackle]

Forgot to mention I like the idea of putting a hook in your indicators. I’ve had trout strike my indicators more times than I care to remember. With a hook in them I may have been able to hook a few.

[@martinashby7851]

What's the floating net you use buddy ?, great videos by the way 🎣🥃

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Here we go bud - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGPSgpunjMh9fK8

[@luckyguliver]

Such a good tutorial. Thanks! I've learned a lot in this 20 min. I'm a beginner but I love fishing in small streams and rivers. Switching from spin to fly felt a bit overwhelming. Would this method work in March and April? If gods willing I'll be fishing in Cornwall and Wales this spring :)

[@IBandAndyFishing]

It'll definitely work then yes! You might find that as the fish start o look to the surface for food that A) you won't need to be as hard on the river bed as this and B) you've got a chance in the dry fly, so maybe use the duo method instead?

[@luckyguliver]

@@IBandAndyFishing Many thanks for the advice. What if I don't see any fish feeding on the surface? Would having a dry fly makes sense in such conditions?

[@patrickmorris8934]

Great video. Never crossed my mind that with bow-and-arrow casts you lose double the distance when you downsize the rod. I can only ever fish small streams out here in the alps, and I'm 10ft 2wt too. And some of our streams are only 2 or 3 feet wide! Thanks again for all the info. Great channel.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Thanks Patrick! Sounds like you're living the dream with small water/pocket water fishing where you are?

[@patrickmorris8934]

@@IBandAndyFishing Yes, but just bought a place on Lough Mask in Ireland, so it looks like I'm finally going to have to learn to cast a fly line! Ah well. Had to happen one day.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Crikey, I like your style, you're never far from some fishing!

[@BobsBitsOutdoors]

Just what I’ve been waiting for. Got out nymphing on the indicator the other day but really struggling to connect with bites. I had loads but couldn’t hit one at all. Tried strip set, trout set and striking sideways. Have you got any tips?

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I guess the first question is are you sure they're bites?

[@BobsBitsOutdoors]

@@IBandAndyFishing I’m pretty sure. Very fishy takes. Tap tap and then the indicator goes under. At first I thought I was dragging bottom but point fly came up weed free. Most ‘bites’ came when I fished up shallow about 18 inches below the indicator (fishing in 4ft of water).

[@IBandAndyFishing]

How strange, I don't think it's possible to miss too many takes using this method because you know that at the point of the indicator going down that a fish has hold of the fly! I'm not sure what to advise here! Are there a lot of very small fish in the water?

[@BobsBitsOutdoors]

@@IBandAndyFishing that’s my suspicion, small fish harassing/grabbing the fly and running. Back in the autumn on the same venue when the water was clear, you could see small perch attacking. I am doubting my abilities at the moment as I’ve had a few blanks in a row. I do think my 3wt rod’s a little short for nymphing being only 6ft. Maybe I’m just not picking up enough line when striking. I’m starting to think I’ve set myself a challenge and a half.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I must admit I've never had that problem before, I honestly think you hit 9 out of 10 takes on a suspension rig. Sure you've got points on your hooks?!🙈😂

[@yorkshireoutdoors4887]

Very interesting video. Could you fish this technique with a centrepin? I am a course angler but really fancy a go for trout ( i can trout fish my ticket in the offseason) and can't afford the expense of a fly rod.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

You sure could yes, no problem at all!

[@davidanderson2651]

Good reasoning on the rod length and good to see you mentioning it’s limitations. I still think IB needs to buy you a 9’#2😂

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I think that's a very good idea David, shame we just missed valentines!

[@gavin7706]

Hi I'm a lure man all the time with a touch of float and feeder fishing. I was just wondering if you guys have had a go at Tenkara? Thanks Tight lines 🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Hi gavin, I have yeah, I must say it didn't really do it for me, but in the environments for which it was devised I think it would probably be really fun! 👍

[@nebraska39]

Good video Andy, and as far as I am concerned you fish to the conditions not how you would like to fish (dry or die). What size swivel is a micro swivel?

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I couldn't agree more, nicely put! I think these are sz18 but I can't find the packet anywhere!

[@stevehubbard1954]

I have used these for trotting in these past.i used a size 14 and that is very tiny

[@joedawson8990]

I feel reassured the idea of a 9ft 2wt isn't completely mad! I've recently come to the same conclusion, that for the small, brushy streams near me it would be the ideal nymphing rod, basically for all the reasons you mention, but I've been struggling to find any available in the UK. Hends 9002/1002 seems to be pretty much it. Do you have any ideas, or thoughts on Hends rods?

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I'll be honest I've got very little experience with Hends rods, I'm probably not gonna be much help on that one, but it sound ideal for doing this!

[@peterwelsh9509]

Joe, look up Unique Flies website. I use a Hanak 2 in 1 rod 2WT, 9ft with an 6" extension . I use it for light dry fly work then attach the extension and you have a superb nymphing rod. I have had it 2 seasons now and its my go to rod for small rivers and streams.

[@joedawson8990]

@@peterwelsh9509 sounds cool, will check it out. Thanks for the tip!

[@BradleyJohnHunt]

I'm gonna try flies on my super ultra light spinning rod. 👌🏻

[@kyle9256]

Absolute novice here, would 9m mono onto fly line with 2 ft of tippet attached to mono with tippet ring. Is that correct? Then indicator set at the correct depth

[@IBandAndyFishing]

So in this instance it goes fly line- mono leader - thread indicator and stops on - micro swivel- 2' 5x fluorocarbon- tippet ring - two 6x droppers 👍👍

[@kyle9256]

@@IBandAndyFishing thanks

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Np Kyle 👍👍

[@arthurtwoshedsjackson4336]

Anglers tutting each other for using perfectly legal tactics is pure snobbery. I need all the help I can get this April . Great videos IB and Andy.

[@leszekpaprota6840]

I have a question do you have water with wasp in the area????

[@leszekpaprota6840]

A meant asp 😁😁

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I'm not aware there's any asp locally to me, no. I wish there were!

[@paulwallace4802]

When you are filming on your sofa suggest to move the reel on your sleeve otherwise it looks like it is growing out of your head………..

[@IBandAndyFishing]

I'd never even noticed that 🙈😂

[@bmartell]

Thanks for a great video, but (there's always a but ) could you please slow down the speedtalking a bit. We are not all born english.

[@IBandAndyFishing]

Great point bjorn, I'll try to keep that in mind. Thanks for the comment! 👍👍

[@markhoulding1938]

It’s all about catching fish on the method you think will suit the conditions best . Ignore the purists let them fish a dry all day to catch nothing 👍