How to undeck a Driveaway load.

What is deck driving, driveWay or piggyback?
This video will show you how to inspect and undeck a Driveaway Load.

[@Fickoch]

Good job brother thank you. You are officially the first person who has ever shown me how that process works. Just a dry van guy here, so much to learn in the trucking business.

[@dredumas1981]

I want to start pulling trucks instead of trailers. What is the name of this company & others?

[@TYALMOSTFAMOUS]

I was thinking about doing it until I watched this video …. 😂😂😂 thank you for sharing but sheessshh that’s a lot of work

[@suttonfoster8819]

It only takes 2 hours to undeck it if you know what you are doing.

[@amygunn6442]

Thanks for this EXTREMELY informative video! I was interested in this type of job but had no clue what it entailed. Now I have a much better understanding.

[@suttonfoster8819]

You are welcome. Any ideas you have of videos you think I should make please let me know.

[@amygunn6442]

@@suttonfoster8819 I'm curious how hard you think this job is? Physical requirements? How long have you been doing it, which company you work for? How is the money compared to other driving jobs?....and do you know of any women that are doing this job? So many questions! 🤣😅😆

[@suttonfoster8819]

@@amygunn6442 it isn’t that strenuous of a job. The money is so much better than any other driving job I’ve done. I work for J&J Driveaway. I’ve been doing it for a total of 4 years. I will never go back to regular driving. If want reach out to me personally and I’ll explain more.

[@suttonfoster8819]

@@amygunn6442 my email is [e-mail]

[@amygunn6442]

@@suttonfoster8819 Emailing you now, thanks! 😁👍

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

Thanks for this insight on the process of transporting and what all needs to be done once the trucks are delivered to the dealerships.

[@leapx3]

Thanks very much for the very informative videos. I move from singles to deck driving next week. Peace to you and yours!

[@shawnti2222]

Thank you for this video. I'm interested in doing this kind of work as well I have spoken to a couple of recruiters but wanted to get a real life point of view - you definitely did a great job of shining a light on the industry.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Well thank you

[@bassmanb]

Just getting started and this was very helpful.

[@jonyemm]

Thanks for the video. Ive always wondered what was involved with hauling these. Never would of thought the hauler would be responsible for all the extra stuff. Btw, your sledge hammer is looking more like a little mallet.

[@jimmyainsworth6951]

Very informative video. Nicely done, Sutton.

[@robyjessee4672]

That’s not the brake chamber in your hand buddy, it’s the caging pin , that cages the brake chamber ,which means it releases the brake without air to it , like if ur trailor brakes locked up , every trailor also has those pins in a slot by the brake chamber ,you can take out and screw in and manually release the brakes without air to get it off the road. Just in case anybody didn’t know what cageing the brakes meant, ur doin a fine job ,

[@jimlewis7200]

Thank both of your for this knowledge, you know your stuff.

[@TreeCross]

I applied to a driving position for this thank you

[@4seasonsTrucker]

Good video, very informative. Just applied a few days ago to a company that does that.

[@JamesAllen-bh4wf]

Good demonstration only thing what did you use to strap lift the truck off the saddle

[@texashorsesforsale]

Thank you for posting this video. You did a great job. I’m surprised at the amount of negativity over words you used. I understood exactly what you were saying and I’m sure everyone else does also but just today’s normal attitude to pick and be offended. I’ve been doing singles for 3 years and am really considering doing the decked loads. I’m just on edge about not having my tow car with me. I don’t like being stranded. I’ll check your other videos out but if you have any information on how you get from delivery to the next pickup or home for the least $$$$ I’m all ears! I may need to abandon my tow car a while do to a recent surgery and I’m not liking the way it’s looking financially. Thanks again!!

[@suttonfoster8819]

Call Wendy 913-378-2693 she is the recruiter for my company and she can explain everything in detail on how travel and pay works. Im telling you that doing what I do is a lot better than doing singles.

[@trkflyer]

There are companies that pay for everything (flights,hotels,uber/lyft/taxi)like Auto truck transport. There really isnt a reason to worry about being stranded

[@BarryWoodward-kg7rw]

God bless always wondered thank you very much peace out😮

[@letsgetit3310]

Thanks for the response. It's actually not the easiest thing trying to get into and get info. My buddy does singles with multiple companies. Some of these companies want to own you..I haven't figured out if it's possible to do this contracted with multiple companies. 100 percent I am buying a tow vehicle. I tried looking into a trailer for this, I only could find one. I want to maximize my options with having a tow vehicle.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Yes you can do multiple companies

[@suttonfoster8819]

To be honest try new decking first.

[@suttonfoster8819]

You do not need a tow vehicle for those bc the company pays for your travel and you fly back to the factory

[@letsgetit3310]

@@suttonfoster8819 yeah I'm just not into all that flying. I don't want to deal with all that bs. Wheels on the ground moving loads is for me. So I can imagine piggy back one way, and needing alternative load back or wherever. Looks like having a vehicle you would have to have a boom trailer if you had 4 rig piggy back. I just want to say hope you're having a good day. You totally responded to everything so I hit that subscribe button. Didn't expect such communication

[@dwightarnold6980]

THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION! I WAS WONDERING ABOUT HOW THEY DID THAT?

[@pabloacosta717]

Is it better to put the 1 1/2 size saddle bolts back or forward..i always thought the solid side of the saddle was to the back so the truck axle would rest on it not in the bolts. Just asking wich is the proper way becauze im not sure.thanks for the video bro.keep it up.

[@andrep8287]

@babloacosta717....the J-bolts (1 1/2 " size) must always face back-wards, i.e. the nuts are in the front. The reason for the "must" word, is that saddle-mounts are subject to the cargo-securement regulations, which - among other rules - state that a load must be secured to withhold 80% of the weight towards the front; 50% of the load-weight towards either side and towards the back, and 20% of the weight upwards. Thus, during a hard-brake application, your saddle-mount attachment must withhold approx 8,000 lbs of forward pressure on a 2-way, about 16,000 lbs of forward pressure on a 3-way and about 24,000 lbs of forward pressure on a 4-way. That's why you want the - as you call it - solid side of the saddle to face forward. That said, the only time where you have no other choice but to turn the saddle around is when your decked truck has a deep oil-pan, where having the saddle turned the proper way, won't give you the required clearance of 6" between the bottom of the oil-pan and the saddle. In such cases you will be obliged to turn the saddle backwards, but in these cases, you'll make damn sure to avoid hard-brake applications (anything stronger than 15 psi of brake application is considered a :"hard-brake" application. Normal braking should usually be

[@markdozier77]

Great video. Do you replenish the oil that is lost when you take the cover off the end of the hub?

[@suttonfoster8819]

No

[@donnellturner2908]

all good.very educational.

[@19DarkHorse76]

Definitely need to learn the names of things you're using. Those "bolts" on the axle are "nuts". Those gaskets aren't O-rings and the bras washers aren't O-rings. That isn't a brake chamber, it's a caging bolt to release the brakes when no air is supplied. Yes, knowing names of things is extremely important...otherwise, good video

[@lucky31979]

do you also hook them up or are they hooked up when you pick them up? Im asking all these questions because I got a call and offered a job at Auto Truck Transport and wonder if it was worth looking into. Thanks for any input you give me, its appreciated

[@suttonfoster8819]

Yes all new decked loads are pre-decked for you. Auto truck is a great place to start.

[@lucky31979]

@@suttonfoster8819 thanks your a great Ambassador to this business

[@sardonic_smile_8752]

Does the company provide you with the impact wrench and sockets? The other hand tools? Thank you for your video and attention to detail!

[@suttonfoster8819]

No you are a contractor and provide your own tools.

[@SpeedySailor]

@@suttonfoster8819 Carrying a bag of tools adds weight to your flight carry-on. Do you have any problems with the airline and the battery pack?

[@suttonfoster8819]

@@SpeedySailor you have two checked bags, ones a tool bag on wheels which you can have up to 50 lbs per bag.

[@suttonfoster8819]

@@SpeedySailor my tool bag with all my tools in it was 48 lbs

[@suttonfoster8819]

@@SpeedySailor also you can’t put your tools in a carry on, they have to be checked luggage

[@leonardoagriel6207]

Very good thank you

[@gustavogonzalez7875]

Hello good afternoon friend, your video is very good, could you help me with the name of the yellow part that is placed on the 5th wheel, and where can I buy it?

[@suttonfoster8819]

It’s called a saddle

[@lucky31979]

Are you still doing this ? I loved the video and have some questions for you .

[@suttonfoster8819]

Yes I’m still doing this

[@WestCoastTruckingCEO]

Hey I know nothing about the driveaway business and need to get more information on what to expect for pricing. I'm with an OTR van carrier in CA and we just bought 20 sleeper tractors in SC so they need to be moved to our terminal in CA. We did receive one quote from the dealer we made the purchase from and it sounds extremely high so I need to find out what the industry standard/norm is. Also is it slow like OTR is right now or completely different? Any information would be appreciated. Thank you

[@suttonfoster8819]

Call J&J Driveaway

[@suttonfoster8819]

Email heather at [e-mail]

[@suttonfoster8819]

Or call her 913-378-2667

[@bestautotransportation2928]

Thank you bro appreciate you, great video!!!! I hear that hook up a Volvo and Mack are different is that true and so what makes it different to hook up? If you have a video I will check out and give you likes up wozuuuu

[@suttonfoster8819]

Yeah it’s a little different. I haven’t done one in years.

[@marktpayne4869]

How are you doing, I am looking at a couple companies doing this. I am curious who you are driving for and what the pay is like, thanks.

[@suttonfoster8819]

J&J Driveaway! Call Heather Stark [phone]

[@5n_fidel]

Where can I buy a saddle and lights like this?

[@tthighwayexpress7335]

Can you please do a video for putting in the axles. Like a hack to get them In there easier.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Honestly there isn’t an easier way to really put them in. Sometime they go in easy then other times it’s a pain.

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

I noticed the protective covering on the fuel tanks. Need to do that to some of the painted surfaces.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Yes I wish they would do that. Unfortunately they do not.

[@letsgetit3310]

What's the maximum rigs you can have in a piggy back if you have a tow rig with you?

[@suttonfoster8819]

One drivable and up to three attached.

[@andrep8287]

@@suttonfoster8819 ....if he's bringing his own horse, than he's limited to 3 decked units....and if any of these units were hi-rise condos, he would have to z-boom them, due to overall height

[@vadimssipolnieks2103]

Have a question what is weekly check after tax first year

[@suttonfoster8819]

No taxes, it’s 1099 depends on how many loads you do a week.

[@vadimssipolnieks2103]

@suttonfoster8819 Active truck transport drivers contractors ? How it possible ,pension ,med insurance

[@broncomcbane6382]

Who is doing this work? The transporting driver or the tech at the receiver?

[@suttonfoster8819]

The driver does.

[@broncomcbane6382]

@@suttonfoster8819 Wow. Ok so next question is how much does it pay? I have an interview with one of these companies this week so I d like to know what to expect? Weekly, biweeekly, monthly?

[@suttonfoster8819]

@@broncomcbane6382 each company is different. From $1-$1.35 airfare, fuel, and taxi reimbursed!

[@jeffreydevine6199]

Best to use a knock off wrench on the saddle jbolts! Not an impact!

[@bajatransport-llcm2175]

you just connect the service brake rite it's that legal for dot?

[@andrep8287]

@bajatransport-llcm2175....the DoT demands a minimum brake distance from 20 mph of not more than 75 feet. Now, you are likely aware that the US-DoT has determined that the last unit in a saddle-mounted combination will never have any brakes (no parking brakes and no service brakes)...this decision was made many years ago following tests performed by the Michigan Institute of Technology on behalf of ATC. These test-results were sufficient for the DoT to legalize "no brakes on last unit of saddle-mount combinations:, provided the combo can maintain the minimum maximum braking distance. (If the combo were unable to brake within that distance, the rear-most unit would require service brakes, but likely also a quick-release valve on that unit, to ensure the brakes release before those of the other units in the combo. That being said, all other units being towed must have working service brakes fed with the airlines and air-supply originating from the horse (lead power unit), which must also have working parking brakes. In such combination, you will never push in the red parking button on the dash of the lead unit, as the towed units' parking brakes are caged. (However, note that this is not the case in a Z-boom combination, where the towed units have full service & parking brakes plumbed during the voyage.....Z-booms are used instead of saddle-mounts when "decking" Hi-Rise Condo highway tractors that cannot be decked the conventional way as they would be too hight. Z-boomed units steer wheels are but 6" off the ground when pulled in the forward motion. you can obtain more info on this subject by emailing me to roadscholar[at]bellaliant.net ....where the [at] characters represent the commercial@

[@frankw8ite]

How did you get in that tow type of job an what company ?

[@suttonfoster8819]

A friend called me back in 2014 and told me to come work for him. Look up Coldiron Cimpanies or Norton Driveaway

[@jonyemm]

Id be saving all that nice 4 flat wiring.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Oh I have a big draw full of it

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

Those painted side fairings of these new trucks the guys transporting them have to be careful not to allow their shoes or boots come in contact with them. We had a guy piggybacked 3 trucks to our local dealership and all 3 trucks were customers trucks and the lead truck which was the one that was driven had scratches from where the driver wasn't careful getting in and out of the truck. Our salesman didn't even know that and wasn't too happy considering it was a truck that was already sold to one of his customers. The factory or these Driveaway companies might want to consider putting some type of protective covering on these areas that could potentially be damaged.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Yes a lot of drivers don’t care Bc it isn’t their trucks. It’s sad!

[@josephagnello9335]

YES !!!!!!! It IS SAD !!! Careless , sloppy , inconsiderate truckers.They W I L L. N O T look out FOR THE NEXT GUY ! "Imma big man.I drive a big truck ! " Y O U are a " baby-man. YOUSE ROOOOONED the INDUSTRY for every one of us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see a STOOOOPIDD trucker, I WILL CALL YOUR COMPANY and REPORT YO A## !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Rotc-jumper311]

Is auto truck the same as myco usa?

[@suttonfoster8819]

No idea

[@coalman1671]

Any clue how the get back The equipment the use for hooking uo

[@suttonfoster8819]

Well all the equipment I use gets put in bags and the saddles get stacked on pallets. Then they have trucks come by every so often and take them back to the factory. If it is a used truck load then they pack it up and take it with them.

[@SayNoToDemocide1]

Does anyone know why the smokestacks are detached when trucks are being delivered?

[@suttonfoster8819]

Bc the if you do not take them off they will be over 13’6”

[@SayNoToDemocide1]

@@suttonfoster8819 Thanks! I guessed because they would be too high and could easily hit bridges, power lines, etc.

[@ptmcclain]

What company do you drive for?

[@suttonfoster8819]

J&J Driveaway. If you go watch my recent videos there is contact info

[@Veganwill]

I didn't know it was that much work. I thought you just delivered and go

[@suttonfoster8819]

Nope lol

[@andrep8287]

@Veganwill....if you want just "delivered and go", that you better stick to single-unit drive-away, but that pays a whole lot less (or, is it a whole less lot...lol). That said, if my drivers don't at least do a proper "don't shoot the messenger" inspection (the inspection to prove that any damages to the unit upon delivery, where already pre-existing)...and treat the unit as if it was their baby, I guarantee it will not be just delivered & go, it will more likely be "don't let the door hit you in the back". The cost of damage claims are in many cases far exceeding the revenue a drive-away company makes on delivering trucks from the OEM to the dealers. It can be done without causing damage (both outside and inside), but you must treat the vehicle as if you just put a U$125.0K check on the factory counter when you picked it up.

[@jeffreydevine6199]

Ok! I see that is a Denton TX LOAD!

[@Bocephis-pr9se]

It's not a "impact drill" ? It's a Impact wrench, also that's not an "o-ring"on the axle, it's a flange gasket. O-rings are internal and round in cross section. You are also wrongly calling the flange axle washers, "o-rings" Other than the ignorance in identifying tools and parts, it's an excellent vid.

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

Chains against the painted frames.🙄 Though the idea is to not damage anything?

[@kellycoldiron8365]

Yep, all the new trucks in particular have to be handled like babies!

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

@@kellycoldiron8365 I know I wouldn't want to have a truck that's damaged from being delivered.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Actually the chains don’t touch the frame. They have rubber shields. I’ve never seen any chains damage the paint on the frame.

[@TheKnightda8]

The number of wrong words used was impressive.... I use words like washers and gaskets..... But apparently they are all "o-rings".... Apparently "brake chamber" is another word for caging bolts.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Well I’m not a mechanic at all. So my wording is off, but if you look past all of that you can learn a lot of you’ve never done this. Thank you for viewing it and for your smart ass remarks. If you know so much why don’t you make a video on how to undeck.

[@jimlewis7200]

As long i get the picture.lol tomato to ma to.still tomatoes. Pe con pecan.lollol

[@jimlewis7200]

@@suttonfoster8819 great point, i got the message.thats all matters, this is real world, not english class.great video great job.

[@jimlewis7200]

I passed my cdl brake test with my own words.my instructor knew what i was talking about.

[@CharlesCiprianoJr]

And did you notice how he did the straps to hook up you never ever do it thar way go off 1 ear and wrap around this dude is going to kill someone

[@jajajaja2624]

How do the loading and wiring.

[@suttonfoster8819]

I don’t do the decking or the wiring. When I pick up the loads they are already decked.

[@letsgetit3310]

Explain to me why it's your job to undeck? Appreciate the video for sure. But just another way companies get out of doing crap. Companies always find a way to offload work and save money. If you're like everyone else you get paid by the mile. Guess you could look at it as part of the job if you are getting paid by the load. You clearly enjoy your job and that's awesome, I'm not afraid of work, but that seems pretty insane. I truly don't have facts, but I'm guessing employers don't really pass on any of the extra profits pulling more trucks. Now i don't expect you to tell me the pay as much as I really want to know, I bet they don't even add .10 cpm for every extra rig. So you can make .90 cpm for 1 truck, but what, make 1.05 delivering 4 trucks? And company takes all that juicy extra money while you do all the work and deal with all that down time. They definitely need to make it lucrative for a driver. Why drive 4 at 1.10 when I can do one for .90 and don't have to undeck? I'm making up numbers, iirc a long time ago I talked to a company who pulled 2 at a time and it was really a joke in pay. I can't remember what they said about piggy back but company I talked to it wasn't worth doing. I would say the whole reason anyone is interested in this is for more money, when I started out I thought it would be cool but that's it. I mean shoot if it was like a 1.30 a mile fuel paid, now we are talking. 1.40 I'm switching jobs right now. But we all know there's no way. If any company can pay .90 for a single, discount the others to who knows at least .6 .7 would be available in driver profit, of course that would never happen and I wouldn't expect that, but even .2 every truck .3 would be nuts. Can't imagine a buck 80 a mile. I would run my ass off. Just like those rip off trailer companies, 1.60 a mile but if you get a 3rd one on trailer they only pay .30 cpm. Scam artist rip offs. Whole reason getting a big enough trailer is to be able to make that extra profit and actually make it worth being out here. So tired of everyone out here ripping everyone off.

[@suttonfoster8819]

Actually. The he pay is different per truck. For a single it is $1/mile for 4 it is $1.25.

[@suttonfoster8819]

They also pay for all the fuel and travel also

[@letsgetit3310]

@@suttonfoster8819 what if you have a tow rig tho, does that mean you make more since they aren't paying travel expenses

[@dellanderica]

Anyone else see that loose bolt on the third saddle?

[@debbiematwick3726]

A driver has to do that.?how much extra $ is that .

[@suttonfoster8819]

You get paid by the mile. Each company pays differently. I make more money doing this than when I owned my own truck. I’ve done heavy haul, flatbed, refer and tanker.

[@archangel20031]

@ 9:30, did he just call a gasket an "O" ring?

[@suttonfoster8819]

Yes I did lol

[@trickmytractor7187]

Delivered them for years out of Ford Truck Plant until Ford sold out. Dam scab’s always stealing our saddle mounts from the dealers

[@suttonfoster8819]

Hey now I’m a scab lol

[@sherzai2708]

Pay better be worth it for all that work. I would expect 800-1k a day after all expenses.

[@suttonfoster8819]

@@sherzai2708 lmao that would be nice but also outrageous. That’s only 2 hours of work when you stop. And if you plan it right you can make close to that. It’s paid by the miles you drive.

[@jeffreydevine6199]

About 97' long!

[@678080]

I hope that 300 dollars was worth all that work. I've done DRIVE AWAY, Its a bullshit job.

[@kellycoldiron8365]

Actually, its a great job for many. You have to choose whether to do singles, 2-ways, 3-ways or boomed loads. 50 of our top drivers make $65k up to $140K!!

[@suttonfoster8819]

Actually I average $3k a week take home. That load there paid me $1700 for 2 days of driving and undecking. It only takes me 2 hours to undeck 4 trucks.

[@Zaidi_227]

@@suttonfoster8819 wow that's nice, good for you. How many years of experience do I need to do this driveaway work?

[@suttonfoster8819]

@@Zaidi_227 at least 2 years

[@suttonfoster8819]

@586KING well to each there own. I’ve done hotshot and I got tired of the overhead and being away from home so much.

[@doneizen4724]

Scott, great great video really appreciate it if you can let me know how I could contact you have some additional questions for you

[@suttonfoster8819]

Ask you questions here. It will help others.