How to Weaponize the Bible

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Bart D. Ehrman

Bart D. Ehrman

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@garethmckee5927
@garethmckee5927 4 ай бұрын
Great hair and glasses, as always. And Megan looks great too, laugh😂
@andrewburns5697
@andrewburns5697 4 ай бұрын
Ha ha. Brilliant!
@BrentKrohn
@BrentKrohn 3 ай бұрын
😅😂
@trilithon108
@trilithon108 4 ай бұрын
I always like the short catch-up they do at the beginning. Humanizes the event. 🎉
@mhm5443
@mhm5443 4 ай бұрын
Have you ever done a lecture/discussion about the violence (death, destruction) done in Jesus' name? And how the modern Church deals with its own history?
@John.Flower.Productions
@John.Flower.Productions 4 ай бұрын
_The modern Church_ was meant to be understood as the Catholic Church, correct? I should hope so. The very short order in which humanity has been made free _in Jesus' name_ renders that _Church's_ violence even less than insignificant.
@Bronco541
@Bronco541 4 ай бұрын
We got a live one here
@greglogan7706
@greglogan7706 4 ай бұрын
@@John.Flower.Productions
@John.Flower.Productions
@John.Flower.Productions 4 ай бұрын
@@greglogan7706 Christians (Protestant) have ended slavery virtually everywhere on this planet, with sub-Saharan Africa being the main exception. Those same Protestants created actual science, which they used to bring forth every advancement that humanity now enjoys. They are the people solely responsible for everything that you have ever seen, known, learned, had or wanted; no one else.
@nolongerthere
@nolongerthere 4 ай бұрын
Trivial detail: What Franklin published was Poor Richard's Almanac; Little Richard's Almanac would probably have been all about the writing of Tutti Frutti. Seriously, great podcast!
@ItsAllStorytelling
@ItsAllStorytelling 4 ай бұрын
You need to consult Little Richard’s Almanac to know exactly when you should tell Aunt Mary about Uncle John.
@neclark08
@neclark08 4 ай бұрын
😂😊
@Roctrin
@Roctrin 4 ай бұрын
Outrageous and how dare you
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 4 ай бұрын
Good.Golly, Miss Molly! Great Catch!
@brandongillette6463
@brandongillette6463 4 ай бұрын
You beat me to it. I was going to reference the other common biblical misattribution: The biblical Greek phrase "awopbobalumawalopbamboom"
@arthurbriand2175
@arthurbriand2175 4 ай бұрын
If you buy a large edition, it can also be used as a blunt bludgeon weapon.
@lorrilewis2178
@lorrilewis2178 4 ай бұрын
🤣
@MrDalisclock
@MrDalisclock 4 ай бұрын
Especially if leather bound with a metal clasp
@dylanjames8792
@dylanjames8792 4 ай бұрын
😂
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 4 ай бұрын
Read your Bible. And stop hitting me over the head with it.
@EdwardPalmer-u9r
@EdwardPalmer-u9r 4 ай бұрын
Russian bible for official church use is about 2 by 3 feet and binding made of solid gold. That’s a real bludgeon
@thorpeaaron1110
@thorpeaaron1110 4 ай бұрын
No one should use the Bible in modern day politics.
@thorpeaaron1110
@thorpeaaron1110 4 ай бұрын
​@@SpideronaleafI wholeheartedly agree.
@stavroskarageorgis4804
@stavroskarageorgis4804 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. We already have enough "sacred" secular texts (constitution, declaration of independence, founding treaties, etc.) to fight over (their meaning, relevance, applicability, scope, and so on).
@thorpeaaron1110
@thorpeaaron1110 4 ай бұрын
​@@stavroskarageorgis4804Valid point.
@justinholoviak5357
@justinholoviak5357 4 ай бұрын
I have gotten six requests to repeat hate sermons on killing democrats to be played in an Episcopal church. Nuts.
@JosephNobles
@JosephNobles 4 ай бұрын
People who think Jesus (or any deity) will give them a mulligan should not be allowed near the big red nuke buttons.
@MTerrance
@MTerrance 4 ай бұрын
Clem and Buck were having an argument about the Bible. After this continued for some time Clem had enough: "Buck, you don't know the Bible worth a lick! In fact, I will bet you $20 that you don't know 5 of the 10 commandments." Buck was pissed. "Oh yeah! You are on!" Clem: "Okay smartass! Do it! Name just 5 of the 10 commandments!" Buck: "Don't steal. Don't kill. Go to church!" He paused and concluded with: "Don't cheat at cards and don't double-park!" Clem: "Dammit. I didn't think you could do it. Here's my $20!"
@healinspaces4u
@healinspaces4u 4 ай бұрын
😂
@joeyrufo
@joeyrufo 4 ай бұрын
Don't quite get which commandment is supposed to correspond to "don't double park" 😅
@healinspaces4u
@healinspaces4u 4 ай бұрын
@@joeyrufo 😂
@travisdiveley1652
@travisdiveley1652 3 ай бұрын
PROVES neither one of them *DON'T KNOW DIDDLY*
@SergeantSkeptic686
@SergeantSkeptic686 4 ай бұрын
Love how Megan deals with the trespassing cat. She did not miss a beat.
@TheLucanicLord
@TheLucanicLord 4 ай бұрын
I kan has forgive plz.
@highenergy8281
@highenergy8281 4 ай бұрын
I agree. It would actually be fun for a short lesson on whether in Jesus' time and location cats were pets.
@SergeantSkeptic686
@SergeantSkeptic686 4 ай бұрын
@@highenergy8281 IDK about cats, but Religion for Breakfast has a video about dogs in Jesus' time. Very interesting.
@RadicalCaveman
@RadicalCaveman 4 ай бұрын
@@highenergy8281 Actually, "turn the other cheek" is probably specifically about cats.
@pamelacollins1153
@pamelacollins1153 4 ай бұрын
Bart has become one of my hero’s for doing this channel and so many other interviews, books, classes etc to educate the public. I wish I could have learned the truth about the Bible, such as how and why the different book were written. What a difference it would have made in my life!! Also, I am so tired of people using the Bible to condemn gays. This often does deep psychological damage. And the fundamentalists trying to take over the government terrify and enrage me. Too many people either don’t understand what they are trying to do, or just don’t care. I read a book 30 years ago warning about what is happening now - fundamentalists running for political offices and positions controlling education, courts etc. Now they are aiming at the national government with the goal of turning the US into a theocracy. God help us if they succeed.
@angelikaskoroszyn8495
@angelikaskoroszyn8495 4 ай бұрын
Charismatic preachers often take one or two verses out of the Biblie and build a whole sermon out of it. Without the context they are able to just make them say whatever they want. An angel comforts someone saying "don't be afraid" => anxiety is sin It's fascinating but also scary. It's not just an alternative interpretation of the text - it's a completly made up meaning put in God's mouth. If I was a Christian I would be terrified of doing things like this. Nowadays I'm just scared about what kind of new "meanings" preachers can find in two lines of text
@Magnulus76
@Magnulus76 4 ай бұрын
Not really, there are different ways of reading the Bible beyond the literal historical grammatical sense. Such as moral or analogical readings of the text, as you demonstrated in your example. Better sermons are going to draw on more than just one or two versess, however, to make their case.
@aaronmccright9212
@aaronmccright9212 4 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, I'd definitely buy a copy of Little Richard's Almanac!! Good Golly, Miss Molly!
@emiliamartucci8291
@emiliamartucci8291 4 ай бұрын
........sure like to ball when you're rockin and a rollin, can you hear your mama call? " one of the best lines in rock and roll.
@Cometkazie
@Cometkazie 4 ай бұрын
Another great topic and discussion. Is it just my imagination or is the video clearer and sharper than usual?
@speculawyer
@speculawyer 4 ай бұрын
You should have John Fugelsang on to discuss weaponization of the Bible. As the son of a Catholic priest and Nun that failed at the celibacy thing, he's been discussing the top with humor and wit for a long time
@andybeans5790
@andybeans5790 4 ай бұрын
Yes that would actually be great
@learningisfun2108
@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын
I love that guy’s posts. So entertaining and biting!
@tophers3756
@tophers3756 4 ай бұрын
Monotheistic religions may have been unique in the ME and West for having scripture. Asian religions, eg Hinduism and Buddhism also had scripture. That said, practice and behavior was primary, but scripture was used to support and dictate action.
@cpetersky
@cpetersky 4 ай бұрын
Other religions, of course, have scripture! The Buddhist cannon of sutras, which teach how to practice and ethical conduct immediately comes to mind. And what about the Tao Te Ching? The Analects of Confucius? All the Hindu scripture, of which the Bhagavad Gita is probably the most well-known in the West? Unless there's a different definition of "scripture", which then Dr. Ehrman should give, all the major world religions have holy books and writings.
@tomfurniss7725
@tomfurniss7725 4 ай бұрын
The Bible was most destructively weaponised in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, when religious wars in Europe led to millions of deaths. Violent disagreements arose because of - or made use of - competing translations and interpretations, but also because there is no coherent religious, moral or political message in the Bible. The OT in particular is a rag bag of different texts written in different contexts, in different genres, and for different purposes. And there are major differences between the OT and the NT. The 'ethical' laws of the OT are for the people of Israel only, not for all humanity. Thus, for example, slavery is permitted, but only non-Jews can be enslaved. It's time we emancipated ourselves entirely from the 'authority' of the Bible.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 4 ай бұрын
How to weaponize the Bible: 1. Introduce a collection of Hebrew writing called "The Holy Bible" to a child. 2.Tell the child The Holy Bible is the words of an all powerful male "God" who made you, loves you, and will reward you if you love and obey Him in return, but will send you to a place of eternal torture if you don't. 3. Create a community that constantly reinforces the god stories and choose trigger words that create a programmed response. 4. Use the generic word "God" in debates with non believers instead of the Jewish word "Yahweh" to avoid a mix up between the Christian god "Jesus" who is love and the Hebrew god Yahweh, who is clearly a monster.
@gk10101
@gk10101 4 ай бұрын
when one points out that another lives in a bubble, one denies the bubble that they live in --some dude in a bubble
@holysquire8989
@holysquire8989 4 ай бұрын
"In the Jewish "Old Testament," the book of divine justice, there are men, things, and speeches of such impressive style that the world of Greek and Indian literature has nothing to place beside them...... To have glued together this New Testament, a sort of rococo of taste in all respects, with the Old Testament into a single book, as the "Bible," and "the essential book," that is perhaps the greatest act of daring and "sin against the spirit" which literary Europe has on its conscience."- Friedrich Nietzsche
@williampan29
@williampan29 3 ай бұрын
so Nietzche is saying it's like a DVD bundle of an all time classic with a shitty sequel?​@holysquire8989
@holysquire8989
@holysquire8989 3 ай бұрын
@@williampan29 exactly
@GoogleWhiz540
@GoogleWhiz540 4 ай бұрын
Hot take: maybe the individual books in the Bible… were never meant to be compiled into a single religious canon? Even if they were divinely inspired, they were still written over the course of centuries by many different authors (and for various different audiences), so as far as all the contradictions go… yeah, personally, I think we should stop treating the Bible like it’s a coherent, self-consistent Scripture or a holy instruction manual - when it clearly isn’t (or at least, isn’t supposed to be). At this point, I’m not really sure the Church fathers thought this through before finalizing the canon. As Dr. Ehrman has stressed in previous videos, there were obvious political and social pressures that drove early Christianity’s key proponents to make the decisions they did, so to attribute it all to divine intervention and assume they were always acting in good faith is… really, really naive (and requires believers to willfully ignore all the other reasons and ulterior motives behind why these actors made the choices they did).
@danielmannebach7613
@danielmannebach7613 4 ай бұрын
I believe none of the Bible nor in a divine being. Having said that the Bible works better as a small library than one perfect book.
@johnoparinde2682
@johnoparinde2682 3 ай бұрын
I think you’re exactly right and this isn’t something many people take into account.
@timcarbone007
@timcarbone007 4 ай бұрын
Great discussion as always
@darin3k
@darin3k 4 ай бұрын
Love your work @bartdehrman but I wish there was more information on Megan in the description
@he1ar1
@he1ar1 4 ай бұрын
It was st Augustine who taught the difference between early v late abortion. It is not much different to modern European stance on abortion.
@Philusteen
@Philusteen 4 ай бұрын
Here for it. ☕🖖
@SeekingTruth2023
@SeekingTruth2023 4 ай бұрын
Same, just sat down with a coffee, excited to listen.... ☕️😊
@jessicajordan3060
@jessicajordan3060 4 ай бұрын
My only complaint: the episodes aren’t long enough! I’m always disappointed when they end. I need at least 3 hours of Bart and Megan!!!
@VitriolicVermillion
@VitriolicVermillion Ай бұрын
Hey, nice one. Thanks for this.
@swensandor
@swensandor 4 ай бұрын
That cat is the STAR!!! But Bart did not react in the slightest way. I would laugh out loud.
@BrentKrohn
@BrentKrohn 3 ай бұрын
Loved this! 👍
@CANALSEGREDOOCULTO
@CANALSEGREDOOCULTO 4 ай бұрын
Trabalho excelente. Parabéns.
@shivramanv8517
@shivramanv8517 4 ай бұрын
Good day Dr Ehrman.. Have you done a horizontal critical Bible ....which brings out contradictions between the Gospels
@TisDana
@TisDana 4 ай бұрын
Yes, they have episodes comparing the Gospels.
@Algorhythmic
@Algorhythmic 4 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure he’s said this is a practice he does with students regularly. I don’t remember the video though.
@diegog1853
@diegog1853 4 ай бұрын
He said multiple times that reading the bible horizontally is something that he commonly does with his students to catch differences between the texts.
@dirkcampbell5847
@dirkcampbell5847 4 ай бұрын
Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy times seven (Matthew 18:21-35). 490 times - seems pretty unconditional to me.
@welcometonebalia
@welcometonebalia 4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@jasonGamesMaster
@jasonGamesMaster 4 ай бұрын
That cat, just slipping in.... "Mom! Attention!"
@stephanieparker1250
@stephanieparker1250 4 ай бұрын
I loved that 😂❤
@chriseliothernandez
@chriseliothernandez 4 ай бұрын
Non canonical texts are used in horror films like the Exorcist or Constantine (2005) or even Milton's Paradise Lost where Enoch's giants are taken out of context as a plot device.
@dbarker7794
@dbarker7794 4 ай бұрын
Have you seen the movie "Noah"? The giants make a few appearances. Great film.
@chriseliothernandez
@chriseliothernandez 4 ай бұрын
@@dbarker7794 I haven't seen it but I read the book. If there are literal giants in it technically they'd be IN context 😂
@bmiller2241
@bmiller2241 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful cat appearance!
@kevintanner5281
@kevintanner5281 4 ай бұрын
The cat 😂. Good job staying focused Megan. Great video as usual 🙏🏾
@dbarker7794
@dbarker7794 4 ай бұрын
Wonder if Bart's dad quoted other bits from Little Richard. Good golly, Miss Molly.
@alysonaraneta1184
@alysonaraneta1184 Күн бұрын
Thanks so much! Do you have books or courses about the OT not prophesying about Jesus ie. Isaiah 7:14?
@jimmcculloch5825
@jimmcculloch5825 4 ай бұрын
Good to see Barley.
@miashinbrot8388
@miashinbrot8388 4 ай бұрын
For many years in the development of science in the west (especially astronomy), the received authority was Aristotle. Somehow (I don't entirely understand this) Aristotle's authority was combined with Biblical authority about how the universe worked, even though Aristotle was too early to be any sort of Christian (hence no overlap with the NT) and certainly was not a Jew (so he was no authority on the OT either). But the two authorities had been thoroughly combined to the degree that questioning one meant questioning the other. It was this combination that Galileo ran afoul of. The Church decreed that heliocentrism was heretical, and therefore to write anything advocating it was at least suspected heresy. Galileo was under house arrest for much of his life as a suspected heretic. He had done his best to avoid appearing to advocate heliocentrism (the idea that the Sun is the centre of the universe and that the Earth therefore moves), but his true opinions were almost impossible for him to hide. Wikipedia has more.
@jamie5mauser
@jamie5mauser 4 ай бұрын
Jesus himself in Matthew also says the only ones welcome in heaven are those who exceed the laws of the Pharisees
@baonemogomotsi7138
@baonemogomotsi7138 4 ай бұрын
Those included adhering to the dietary, no shellfish laws, and the no mixed fabrics laws. Christians are cooked 🤣
@baonemogomotsi7138
@baonemogomotsi7138 4 ай бұрын
Quite the episode. The weaponisation of the Bible is disingenuous as they ignore contexts and religious diversity and that the Bible is merely a theological book.
@yallimsorry5983
@yallimsorry5983 4 ай бұрын
Even within the Bible there are so many perspectives and even parodies of other books within the canon (Jonah is clearly a satire on the prophetic genre)
@anthonycraig274
@anthonycraig274 4 ай бұрын
I have alway been way more impressed when someone quotes Shakespeare, the bible I tend to ignore.
@otisbdriftwood6520
@otisbdriftwood6520 4 ай бұрын
What’s the books on the shelf Bart? Curious to know
@phillipburns6070
@phillipburns6070 3 ай бұрын
Barr, would you comment on Roman’s 1? I follow your thinking on 1 Cor , but curious your thoughts on Roman’s 1. Thank you
@DJMarcO138
@DJMarcO138 4 ай бұрын
Guys, I love you both...but I think we need more of Megan's cat in the streams! =)
@otisbdriftwood6520
@otisbdriftwood6520 4 ай бұрын
Excellent podcast ❤
@MultiCappie
@MultiCappie 4 ай бұрын
Megan is amazing. She changed her hair colour twice in this single episode.
@joejohnson6327
@joejohnson6327 4 ай бұрын
Jesus-level stuff.
@byrondickens
@byrondickens 4 ай бұрын
You're going to find in the Bible whatever you go looking for; what you find there says more about you than it does about the Bible.
@learningisfun2108
@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын
Best comment here. Well said. Like golf, the bible reveals your true self.
@kyleauthman
@kyleauthman 4 ай бұрын
He Studied and left it
@RansonIgnacio
@RansonIgnacio 4 ай бұрын
The Bible is for hope. Politics is about facts Science is about facts Now we know the difference?
@ScottyMcYachty
@ScottyMcYachty 4 ай бұрын
Little Richard? 🎹 Wooooo!! LOL 😅 Love ya, Bart! 😊
@ThomasHindbjorgen
@ThomasHindbjorgen 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial!
@andrzejc.1929
@andrzejc.1929 4 ай бұрын
Luke 6:29 " And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again." Nothing about asking for forgiveness. This is unconditional.
@stevebaylot7924
@stevebaylot7924 4 ай бұрын
Dr. Ehrman, you need to come to Mississippi. Weaponizing the Bible is an art form down here. 😆🤣 Thanks always for a great podcast.
@willmosse3684
@willmosse3684 4 ай бұрын
Regarding unconditional forgiveness, at 22:55, I think it’s arguable that by teaching “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”, the Bible does teach something like unconditional forgiveness. The message there is it’s not for you to judge someone, that is for God. So no, ultimately, there is punishment. But not at the Earthly human level. We should not deal out punishment. You put “turn the other cheek” in there too, that seems to say don’t respond when someone harms you. So I’m not sure I agree with Bart here.
@while_coyote
@while_coyote 4 ай бұрын
The "if you don't work, you don't eat" crowd had better hope Jesus was joking when he said "In the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" otherwise they might find the haven't worked hard enough for their salvation.
@TheLucanicLord
@TheLucanicLord 4 ай бұрын
According to Matthew 14:13, Jesus handed out free tuna sammiches.
@learningisfun2108
@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын
Did Jesus work? He was a travelling preacher who relied on the support of others to eat and have shelter. Modern Christians would likely judge this lifestyle harshly. Ironic, no?
@Sine-gl9ly
@Sine-gl9ly 4 ай бұрын
​@@learningisfun2108Being a time-served carpenter, he could have found a paying job _easily_ ... how disgraceful that he didn't!
@learningisfun2108
@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын
@@Sine-gl9ly 😂
@richardphillips3678
@richardphillips3678 4 ай бұрын
I have always thought that the most powerful weapon on Earth isn't a nuclear weapon, it's religion!
@MATRIX-AGENT
@MATRIX-AGENT 4 ай бұрын
Religion has certainly been more destructive than nuclear weapons up to present date.
@miashinbrot8388
@miashinbrot8388 4 ай бұрын
I see. Then arsenokoites could also mean men (and perhaps all people) who sleep too much. Then the best translation of what Paul meant would probably be "the lazy", right along with "the greedy". That would make a whole lot of sense, as Sloth is one of the seven deadly sins -- although I assume the seven deadly sins was a concept that came along after Paul; AFAIK it isn't a Jewish idea. There are also Greek pictures on vases and walls (especially, perhaps, brothel walls) that show sex taking place outside of beds. I'm going to take it for granted from now on that "the lazy" is the best translation of arsenokoites (mostly because that sounds like an excellent refutation of the Biblical argument that homosexuality is a Bad Thing).
@lauriehermundson5593
@lauriehermundson5593 4 ай бұрын
Kitty an added bonus ❤
@edwardstaats4935
@edwardstaats4935 4 ай бұрын
Never get frustrated listening to you interact
@VJacquette
@VJacquette 4 ай бұрын
It's more than just "taking the blow." It's even more than, "Thank you, sir, may I please have another." If someone strikes you on the right cheek, assuming they were right handed, they hit you with the back of their hand -- i.e., not that hard. By turning the left cheek to the, you invite them to give you a harder hit. The other scenarios in this context (Mt. 5) are all about nonresistance of evil, nonretaliation, and exceeding the usual standards of morality. And while it would be interesting to contemplate whether/how that would apply to social policy, that's not what's being discussed in that passage. It (this and the other statements in the passage) is asking us to go above and beyond in our own personal goodness and morality. Nonviolence of this sort has been used a few times, e.g., Gandhi, American Civil Rights movement, etc. Those 2 examples are of a similar context as the one Jesus was addressing (broadly speaking) due to oppression and/or colonization.
@goldie44451
@goldie44451 4 ай бұрын
I am confused by what Bart Ehrman mentioned saying unconditional forgiveness not being biblical. Just going by what is written in the Bible, doesn’t Luke record (regardless of the historicity) that Jesus says “forgive them for they know not what they do”, and doesn’t Mathew’s gospel also imply “let his blood be on us and our children” and ironic use of receiving blood of forgiveness? There is also the passage of Peter asking to forgive his trespassers seven times, and Jesus answers him to forgive them seven times seventy times. So I am very confused by these statements of unconditional forgiveness not being biblical. Now there are certainly cases of forgiveness being received after repentance such as the thief on the cross in Luke, the prodigal son parable, etc.
@missanne2908
@missanne2908 4 ай бұрын
Franklin got that quote from one of Aesop's fables _Hercules and the Waggoner._
@dvdrtrgn
@dvdrtrgn 4 ай бұрын
3:53 main topic
@Human-Earth
@Human-Earth 4 ай бұрын
23:01 Jesus didn’t teach about unconditional love and forgiveness! How ! What about “love your enemies”? I’m not a Christian formally yet, but I think that was the most obvious in the Bible.
@RobertMaguire67
@RobertMaguire67 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if Bart has opinions or teaches about intertextual interpretation of scripture(s)? I find it quite interesting.
@danpatton3891
@danpatton3891 4 ай бұрын
Does the Didache give us, in modern times, a view of ethics, and how to act as a Christian (Christian Values)?
@brokinsage7138
@brokinsage7138 4 ай бұрын
I think the unconditional forgiveness is about us forgiving others. "Turn the other cheek."
@scienceexplains302
@scienceexplains302 4 ай бұрын
*Who has the Bible as authority?* Many claim it’s their authority, but when it says something they don’t like, they say it means something else. Their religion or political goal is the authority. Bart said it better later, “They want the Bible to support their pint of view, whatever that pint of view is, and they use it to that end. That’s not respecting the Bible, it’s weaponizing the Bible.” Yes , they don’t use the content as an authority, they disrespect it and cherry-pick and apply eisegesis.
@strwman5
@strwman5 4 ай бұрын
I thought the Zoroastrians had some sort of written scripture. Was I wrong?
@PeloquinDavid
@PeloquinDavid 4 ай бұрын
Yup. They're the Avestas and are written in an ancient Indo-European language ("Avestan", naturally), just like the Hindu Vedas (written in Sanskrit).
@nostromoglasseye8340
@nostromoglasseye8340 4 ай бұрын
interesting. I like how the Wife of Bath uses the Bible in her argument for her freedom to marry : I woot as wel as ye, it is no drede Th'Apostle, whan he speketh of maidenhede, He seide that precept thereof hadde he noon. Men may conseille a womman to be oon, But conseilling nis no comandement; He put it in oure owene juggement .... Paule dorste nat comanden, at the leeste, A thing of which his maister yaf noon heeste ....'
@JillMorgan-b7y
@JillMorgan-b7y 4 ай бұрын
I really want to see the conference about Paul.
@OldMotherLogo
@OldMotherLogo 4 ай бұрын
Do it! I attended the NINT last year and it was very good.
@howardmestas7522
@howardmestas7522 4 ай бұрын
How can we forget Margery Taylor Green blaming the California wildfires in "Jewish Space Lasers."
@howardmestas7522
@howardmestas7522 4 ай бұрын
On Jewish lasers...sorry...
@narancauk
@narancauk 4 ай бұрын
33:34 Maybe it is about men who like to sleep all day. Like me.
@jeffh2166
@jeffh2166 4 ай бұрын
Throw it at someone😛
@MH55YT
@MH55YT 2 ай бұрын
Bart mentioned that Christianity is monotheistic. But it seems polytheistic because of the Holy Trinity. The Bible documents conversations with Jesus and the Father. Was he talking to himself? What is Bart's take?
@PESSIMYST1C
@PESSIMYST1C 4 ай бұрын
Pilate not Herod 12:49
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 4 ай бұрын
Nope. He’s talking about the Christian belief that the Jews killed Jesus, which has no scriptural basis.
@PESSIMYST1C
@PESSIMYST1C 4 ай бұрын
Yes John 19:16 Finally PILATE handed him over to THEM to be crucified. This is the verse he’s referring to. Which Ehrman has referenced in other lectures and in his books. I’m not saying that the Jews killing Jesus is scriptural, I’m saying it’s not Herod, he’s referring to Pilate. The verse shows an increasing responsibility being blamed on the Jews Read the Pilate episode in the scriptures in order to see what I mean. It’s a simple error I was just pointing out that he likely meant to say Pilate instead of Herod as that’s what is presented in the scripture.
@andymabilehi5805
@andymabilehi5805 4 ай бұрын
@@MarcosElMalo2who brought Jesus to Roman government by using a made up accusation? TheJews or not? Who did have an intention to kill Jesus? Was that the Jew or not? Jews used Roman’s hand to kill Jesus… Bart Erthman has a very poor understanding for this instance… Or he is just an ignorant?😂😂😂😂
@dbarker7794
@dbarker7794 4 ай бұрын
Shhhh. You're not allowed to hold Israel even vaguely responsible for anything bad.​@@andymabilehi5805
@SuhailAnwar-ug8lc
@SuhailAnwar-ug8lc 4 ай бұрын
Another great apisode. Bart please interview Dr Ali Ataie for his views on the death and resurrection of Jesus in the Islamic narrative
@ajeet490
@ajeet490 4 ай бұрын
Mary "was found to be with child" ( before marriage to Joseph) Matthew 1-18. Elizabeth's " child/babe leapt in her womb" (6th mth.) Luke 1-41. Mary "his betrothed who was with child" "great with child". Luke 2-5.
@diegog1853
@diegog1853 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand what is the point of these quotes... can you elaborate?
@otisbdriftwood6520
@otisbdriftwood6520 4 ай бұрын
Yeah that quote occurred to me. It’s about abortion.
@diegog1853
@diegog1853 4 ай бұрын
@@otisbdriftwood6520 i mean but what exactly are they contradicting or how are they adding to the conversation? The texts are not clarifying in any way if an unborn child is a fully fledged human being or if killing one is equivalent to murder. They are just using words like child and babe to describe the unborn child which... Doesn't really mean much. They didn't have technical terminology like fetus or anything like that. And even if it somehow demonstrated that in this passages the unborn child is considered a fully fledged human being and that killing them is murder (which I think is a mad stretch), at best one can only arrive at the conclusion that the bible contradicts itself on the topic of abortion.
@otisbdriftwood6520
@otisbdriftwood6520 4 ай бұрын
@@diegog1853 yeah bible contradicts itself all over the place. Child leaping in the womb though does seem to point to life and some level of cognition. Certainly I know it was something that anti abortionists would cite. Regardless though it’s just a phrase
@diegog1853
@diegog1853 4 ай бұрын
@@otisbdriftwood6520 i mean... Babies kick inside the womb, particularly in the later stages of pregnancy, it is hard not to see that as some level of cognition. Pointing that out I don't know how that can imply anything morality wise. Especially regarding early stages and miscarriages. It sounds like Grasping at straws honestly.
@d..c4808
@d..c4808 4 ай бұрын
Based on Paul's strict entry criteria - Heaven must be a ghost town.
@liteenergy4843
@liteenergy4843 Ай бұрын
It seems rather arrogant, perhaps even extremely arrogant, for us humans to come along and say "This IS the word of God". It's one thing for a person or a group of people to say, "This idea seems inspired to me" or "This verse sounds like the word of God to me/us." That is quite different from saying it IS the word of God.
@joefromtheBronx
@joefromtheBronx 4 ай бұрын
Megan feeling blue today ... hair-wise.
@joefromtheBronx
@joefromtheBronx 4 ай бұрын
Do we know the name of Megan's cat?
@dianadeejarvis7074
@dianadeejarvis7074 4 ай бұрын
And glasses.
@dominicdmello7531
@dominicdmello7531 4 ай бұрын
Is the issue of abortion being used to really deny a woman of her basic rights? A way of imposing patriarchal power over women.
@lauriehermundson5593
@lauriehermundson5593 4 ай бұрын
Yes.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 4 ай бұрын
Yes. You must be far away from American politics.
@robertdobbs2283
@robertdobbs2283 4 ай бұрын
Rights have to be conferred. Who conferred "her basic rights"? Can't explain, then it is simply an empty opinion and not a thought.
@mikeharrison1868
@mikeharrison1868 4 ай бұрын
Abortion never used to be a protestant issue. But Francis Schaeffer's son got his girlfriend pregnant, freaked out about the idea of abortion, produced a horrified movie about it, and toured it through the moral majority. The rest is history.
@kofidan9128
@kofidan9128 4 ай бұрын
Blessed are those who read my "Evidence of God", for they shall obtain proof of God. Find my "Evidence of God" in the comments. To make that easier, change the comment settings on the video to "Newest" and then scroll down gently. Take care!💫📚✍️
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 4 ай бұрын
Not even Bart can cure stupid. Ooh! Kitty!
@lorrilewis2178
@lorrilewis2178 4 ай бұрын
RE: Numbers Chapter 5 - Some Christians claim the passage should be translated as making the unfaithful wife's belly swell or her thigh waste away instead of the translation describing a miscarriage. It sounds like Bart Ehrman sees the correct translation as the latter.
@yallimsorry5983
@yallimsorry5983 4 ай бұрын
I would guess it would be a euphemism? It seems like the kind of the thing that wouldn’t have been talked about directly
@OldMotherLogo
@OldMotherLogo 4 ай бұрын
“Thigh” is, indeed, often a euphemism for genitalia or that area so that making them “fall away” implies something is leaving from them i.e. inducing a miscarriage.
@lorrilewis2178
@lorrilewis2178 4 ай бұрын
Yes.
@rhondah1587
@rhondah1587 4 ай бұрын
Bart is wrong about only the Abrahamic religions having scriptures. Duh. There are many others as well.
@theinnerlight8016
@theinnerlight8016 3 ай бұрын
Starts at 3:58
@Bronco541
@Bronco541 4 ай бұрын
When talking about abortion he said "thats a water tight argument." XD XD
@TheIObook2024
@TheIObook2024 4 ай бұрын
IO is the argument that nobody can beat.
@wmski
@wmski 4 ай бұрын
Walter Wink's "Jesus' Third Way" has an interesting take on turning the other cheek.
@joknaepkens
@joknaepkens 4 ай бұрын
Cats be cats 😆
@zerdorus1149
@zerdorus1149 4 ай бұрын
I detest people who wear clothes made of two different fabrics!
@James-wv3hx
@James-wv3hx 4 ай бұрын
Thomas Jefferson and our founding fathers were smarter than the idiots of today.
@paulbail1451
@paulbail1451 3 ай бұрын
Megan's eyeglass frames match her hair. Nice look
@dominicdmello7531
@dominicdmello7531 4 ай бұрын
Random question? If Joseph was from the house of David, but Jesus was born of a Virgin, how could Jesus be of the house of David?😊
@diegog1853
@diegog1853 4 ай бұрын
This was actually covered in an episode of the podcast, it is one where Bart does something like a Q&A if I am not mistaken.
@madamecurious
@madamecurious 4 ай бұрын
Mary was also a descendant of King David.
@madamecurious
@madamecurious 4 ай бұрын
@isacsln ,according to the gospels of Matthew and Luke, he had a right to the throne through Mary’s lineage and also through Joseph’s lineage (his adoptive father).
@kyleauthman
@kyleauthman 4 ай бұрын
​@@madamecurious Mary isn't from the The David Lineage but from the Lineage of Aaron
@madamecurious
@madamecurious 4 ай бұрын
@@kyleauthman Her Lineage was not through Aaron, the priestly line, but through King David and his son Nathan (not Salomon) according to the Bible.
@davidkatz341
@davidkatz341 4 ай бұрын
Little Richard would have sang the almanac..
@suferick778
@suferick778 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps we ought to start a movement to keep the 9 commandments
@thomasesau2376
@thomasesau2376 4 ай бұрын
AND THE BEER IS WARM! (LOL)
@portalarizona
@portalarizona 4 ай бұрын
There are passages in the Bible that are pro-war and anti-war. And today the Bible is being used to both justify and condemn the horrors going on in Gaza.
@Templetonq
@Templetonq 4 ай бұрын
You keep on using that verse. I don't think it means what you think it means.
@andrewfrennier3494
@andrewfrennier3494 4 ай бұрын
Rabbi Tovia Singer discusses this regularly
@cbwavy
@cbwavy 4 ай бұрын
Hi Megan's cat! 👋🏾
@rpoorbaugh
@rpoorbaugh 4 ай бұрын
33:47
@rpoorbaugh
@rpoorbaugh 4 ай бұрын
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