How to WIDEN your bass sounds the RIGHT way!

[@rtyprty]

i remember when i was 15 and widened EVERYTHING and then wondered why it sounded good on some speakers and shitty on others😂

[@JH4RPlp]

I'm 3 years into production and it took me at least a year to learn what phase cancellation was lmao

[@ghaataksur]

Bro SUS , don't believe every word that comes out of a speaker 👤

[@michaelcucchiara]

​@J H4RP this checks out I just hit a year and learned about phase cancelation, and phase shifting when using a hard cut on an eq

[@muunhead]

What does "widening" mean? And what effect does it have? Is reverb widening?

[@michaelcucchiara]

@Turban Sessions it's referring to stereo width, reverb can make something sound huge but that's different. Most DAWs have a stereo merge/separate built in to each channel, but there are many solid plugins for achieving this effect, such as Ozones stereo imager.

[@futur_sunds]

This guys the best he promos his track whilst spreading super good info all at once. What a legend.

[@NunButIce]

Definitely can’t be having zero booty bass in the clubs man that’s a party foul

[@kylebrainpresents]

😭😭😭

[@ubuandeyelbme]

Your song is crisp as fuck 👌

[@tonogram]

One trick I do to be a bit more surgical than can be done with an EQ is to use the wavetable editor to remove the fundamental (or more) from one oscillator, then remove everything else from another oscillator, and only apply any kind of widening to the former. That way I have precise control over which harmonics stay perfectly mono.

[@ghostsinthesnow_makes_music]

this is SUCH good advice and explains so much

[@Drekon009]

This is actually really well explained

[@sio-salt8979]

There is a way to widen your sub without phase problem! Dimension expander effect in serum can do that. You can also pan your sub with pitch synced sine wave loaded in noise oscillator.

[@xtrongmusic]

Your song sounds so nice❤

[@countedgnome7216]

Shot up overnight is a banger. Love the song, and the peoduction is so damn clean.

[@coursecontrol]

Yes! So many presets come ultra wide to make them sound exciting. The mono sine wave sub signal layer is key 🔑

[@eriksteverman]

We love you underbelly

[@illsmackudown]

Thank you for this tip!

[@tylerwiltse1268]

underbelly has goated tips. in alot of ways he helped me achieve my bounce and swing that i have now.

[@TacticsUnseen]

Lower frequencies have less “coverage” since we hear exponentially. So the changes to phase down there will be very noticeable.

[@LukePetruzzi]

I’ve been loving Shot Up Overnight - feels nostalgic but also new

[@dylanrojas6432]

This guy is fucking awesome

[@tonymens4845]

This sounds like a battle sequence from fear and hunger

[@Sackofnutstimesten]

I love you SO much underbelly these shorts are killer dude please keep making this stuff

[@niveous5392]

Wowzers. I cannot believe this content is free

[@StingerBeats]

Ozone imager is also great for this as you can selectively widen certain frequency ranges

[@SlapShotts]

How do you do that? My crack doesn’t let me 😂

[@zoemakesmusic]

​@@SlapShotts either get another crack or try the 'stereoize' Button in the plugin along with a preset

[@kahyui2486]

@@SlapShotts do u use FL studio? Cos you could just use the frequency splitter plugin to split the low end inside patcher and put a imagining plugging next to it

[@SlapShotts]

@@kahyui2486 no FL studio sucks

[@kahyui2486]

@@SlapShotts can u explain how and why FL sucks? You sound ignorant

[@ig3.productions]

Wowsers.... Love your videos

[@Firebird0913]

I've never used a stereo widener because I've never found one that didn't sound like ass. If I feel compelled to apply widening it's usually a sign to me that I need to go back to the drawing board and start a patch from scratch or eq other parts of the mix more.

[@---pp7tq]

Ozone Imager/Wider/Stereo Tool V3/A1StereoControl-x32 (it has feature monoing below certain frequency) and doublers which work for bass in some cases: Vocal Doubler, KHS Ensemble. These are all free. You can use more than one widener for one track/stem if you know what you're doing.

[@JohnPaulBuce]

oh yeah playing my tracks in mono sounds like something got muted, so this is why

[@eyyfalon]

Much love. This is very useful

[@Moocow3166]

Great tip. Wowzers!

[@dbzdude2002]

Dude you are so good at communicating. So easy to understand your videos

[@cratediggersplaza]

incredible, thank you

[@sumrandomguy4860]

Izotopes imager is also great for this

[@mulade]

amazing content thank you

[@Chiko700]

Great tip I was struggling with that

[@augusteghislaindupin]

you're so good

[@resol_beats]

Thank you !!!!

[@scottyduotty1377]

Good advice

[@Agent56000]

I just make separate basslines. one for sub and other for wide bass. Makes customization easier

[@leeroyglasscock]

Drum Bus - All my drums and percs are routed to this channel. Sub Bus - Sub frequencies (below 200 hz) are sent here. I set this one to mono by default. Melody Send - Where al melodic elements are routed If I need to widen the bass, I'll send it to a separate mixer and use an eq to cut everything sub 200 hz, then do my stereo processing there. All of my 'send' channels are then sent to a premaster for pre-master processing before i move on to the master channel In the end result, everything always sounds clean. This is my simple way of doing it if anyone else wants to try.

[@BadboyEhis]

So you mix the high end in stereo if you want to widen the bass?

[@SIKE_AU]

Wow this makes so much sense. I made a song and was wondering why my bass sounded non existent. Cheers

[@NikolayBas]

Much easier and healthier for mix (I think) will be do it on a master bus in eq - you just loCut side and after that search for point where it will sound the best for mix. For example, in rock mix bass can be in stereo much lower (even to 90 hertz but mostly not lower 100) when in electronic music you need more consistent low end, so it can be 130-150 hertz. But do it only with ears, sometimes there’s no any problem with phase even when your bass in stereo)) Art! Music!

[@muunhead]

Omg thanks so helpful! Wait, 1. What is widening and what does it do? 2. What is "the low end"? 3. If one channel happens before the other, wouldn't it mean the whole bass would sound off beat because one sound wave will play before it's supposed to? How is that not the primary concern, even if it's on a stereo speaker? 4. What's a "SUB"? 5. What's a "vital" preset? 6. What's a sine wave and how is it different from a normal sound wave? 7. What's an oscillator? 💀

[@lexmusiclab]

I do this with the spinz 808 and the reason stock stereo imager, making evening below the cut off mono and everything above a bit wider

[@Tezos1644]

"I can feel the bass, from the ceiling to the basement"

[@BodyOfPlayMusic]

Sick!!

[@Phosphor_Sco]

Lil side EQ on the master cutting up to around 100/150hz (listen for best results, some genres might be lower or higher) helps keep things in mono without too much hassle

[@rynabuns]

just be careful sometimes, if the sound already phase cancels when summed to mono that trick won't help

[@Phosphor_Sco]

@@rynabuns yeah ofc but a monitoring plug in before the EQ will help you see if that’s the case :)

[@unused0011]

But doesn't a mono system play all the frequencies in mono and not just sub frequencies? I don't grt why widening the high end would be ok for a mono system?

[@Phosphor_Sco]

@@unused0011 nobody mentioned widening the higher frequencies although I would recommend. Yes they would, this is for stereo playback.

[@unused0011]

@@Phosphor_Sco sorry 🤔

[@ashtref4524]

Hey man, how can i align sub bass with bass and how to create a sub bass that is basic and most common type? PLEASE MAKE A REEL ON THIS!...

[@79keydet]

yousuckatproducing: **explains how to bypass fx chain of a particular synth for a specific frequency range** multiband effects: **exist**

[@LEEOC]

Ooooo thanks bro

[@D0Samp]

Didn't know that the Beatles approach to making stereo sound was still so prevalent.

[@germbot_music]

I use this all the time

[@itismeanttobe]

thanks bro

[@N_o_a_h_music]

Luv you

[@katielowen]

Always freebase the bass

[@skrypture1162]

😂😂😂

[@berringervids]

Was so hated on a "music forum" for pointing this out 10+ years ago, ah well.. That was then! :D

[@ihateallthethings2683]

I love your tips man great content keep it up

[@evryflare]

Wowzers 😀

[@desmauve]

Did bro really say wowzers

[@Sp00tnik-1]

Wowzers!

[@MarcelNinety]

Thx

[@51C4R1U5]

Dani Alves making some EDM😂

[@jzubs]

anyone else hear asap distorted records at one point or another in the vid?

[@justtosharefiles678]

You shld make a tutorial for your swimming pools remix

[@kkirf]

Club systems aren't usually mono, they're so far apart that the sweet spot is only in a small part of the dancefloor. Party at the foh people

[@scrobaby]

wowzers

[@justvolt]

The 'it might sound great on headphones' part is very noticeable on phone speakers. The waves just get mushed together

[@schqrr]

Wowzers

[@Yeiiam]

Wild

[@billiedaniels3662]

😂 nice info 👌🏽

[@drmikepov]

Intro bass sound sounds like the hills intro

[@bend3rbot]

I'm trying to imagine the club that plays EDM to a crowd in plaid flannelette 🤣😆😅

[@benauxo]

nice

[@okonomiyakki3007]

Wowzers thx

[@vgm_composer]

exactly the one thing I don't like about spectrasonics plugins

[@altwodoor]

or using m/s processing

[@killervacuum]

would the wide high end get cancelled out on a mono system too?

[@neonrj2123]

If I don't like the short video style, how can I watch this video in a normal long video

[@william3702]

why is the sine wave on osc 3 being added?

[@sheshasain018]

Why use "Sine wave"? Can we use any other waves? Please someone explain

[@viscid09]

The one and only underbelly 🤘🏻😂

[@mr.player7104]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@SantoyoOfficial]

whats the plugin?

[@G3ra300]

🎉

[@lennartvonau8227]

Just use Imager with eq?

[@poixone]

very basic shit but very very true

[@felixmarques]

hmmm why do I find this guy so attractive

[@joshuafridman3356]

Shout out glorkglunk

[@skyborax5159]

Gimme that preset please

[@ShadowKestrel]

This is why I double track my bass guitar. Chonks its way through the low end and doesn't care about the laws of physics

[@SyoDraws]

I didn't know you could do that in vital.

[@therealrussellsmyth]

Underbelly rawks

[@debarjo]

Why do crackup everytime Underbelly?

[@carltonbanks194]

Damn

[@jasonreviews]

it's under belly gear 😊

[@tapwater6327]

GLUNK MENTIONED

[@mp-pi2rl]

What about Utility in Ableton?

[@79keydet]

it has special button for that "Bass mono" and bass frequency Hz threshold

[@kahyui2486]

Most club speakers are not mono.its not 1984

[@rah-q3692]

He lookin'

[@FdUpNews]

lmfao

[@beeknose]

Josh, can you make a tutorial on this? Please. Thank you.

[@jordan.shanley]

Stop smelling me through the video 😂

[@leeroyglasscock]

But why? You smell like salami and that attracts predators

[@tomahawkANDscopZ]

Not true, this is assuming that your waveforms are out of phase. A sound can be wider while not being out of phase.

[@lars7051]

Nooooo not my booty bass 😢