How Valve turned FAILURE into SUCCESS

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Valve tried to usher in an era of Linux gaming in the past, and it did not work. Not even a little. Getting devs to support a new operating system with a very very small user base was an impossible task. I’m glad that Valve tried, but they failed spectacularly the first time around.
Fast forward a few years, and Valve has figured it out. Essentially Rather than getting the devs to commit to Linux they turned to Proton. That’s it success right? Windows games running on Linux! It’s amazing that Valve was able to make that work. The Devs said, No, and Valve said “fine I’ll do it myself”.
But that’s just step one. Now Valve has to push developers to make their games run on fairly limited hardware.
Some devs have seen the light and have been targeting the steam deck probably because they saw how popular handheld gaming is with the Switch and if they can do a little bit of extra work, it might benefit their customers in a big way.
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[@NerdNest]

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[@bigsmoothkaj]

Recently came across your channel and love the content. In the market for a gaming handheld so all related videos have been amazing. Quick question: do you have a simple explanation video like this one that explains the whole anti-cheat blocker that prevents Steam Deck users from playing games like COD or FIFA? It’s the only barrier standing in my way from choosing a Deck over an Ally or even the upcoming Go. But I don’t quite understand the issue. Thanks.

[@SpartX7]

If a game like starfield have a preset for handhelds that would be great. But it will still be a 125GB download that you might wanna play with a resolution of 720p or 1080p at best. The bigger challenge is to cut the game size down. That is something the community isn't gonna help much with.

[@GXShade]

Just remember, we need to thank wine developers as well. Without wine, Proton probably would not have existed.

[@AndrewJacksonSE]

I was under the impression that Valve is co-developing Proton with Codeweavers. They were the developers of crossover, which was a commercial version of wine (which I used many many years ago to run office and various windows only tools on linux when I was student)

[@dzibanart8521]

​@@AndrewJacksonSEindeed.

[@Roruoni]

I think Joshua Ashton's project DXVK which showed rapid development and great promise is what actually made Valve take interest in Wine and Proton as a project that they could push forward on. They paired it with the pressure-vessel project they were looking at developing to solve Linux runtime woes with it's bubblewrap containers

[@AndrewJacksonSE]

@@Roruoni interesting - I haven’t dug that deep. Certainly Proton now is an impressive piece of work and has gone far further with Valve dollars than it would have! It has convinced me I could manage to move back to Linux as my regular desktop OS at home.

[@rev0lu7ion]

Yeah there's no way proton could exist without wine. That was decades of work on a massively difficult task.

[@derram0k]

Valve never stopped with Linux support. The Deck is more of a continuation of pushing for that "Linux age of gaming" than a second run at it.

[@baraka629]

Yep, Steam Machine, SteamOS, Big Picture Mode and the Steam Deck are just all on the same development continuum.

[@TremereTT]

valve joined forces with Linux to answer the trend of walled garden operating systems like, ios, macos x, chromeOS, android (defakto). And Microsoft wanting to jump on that train , spawned fear in Gabe steam might one day get replaced by the microsoft store.... It's a strategy to mightygate the power of OS makers , by becoming a OS maker...well a linux distribution maker...and a supporter of a compatibility layer

[@technite5360]

Of course, they supported it, it's free OS, it's good for their business (no licence and good dev environment, and answer to microsoft tentacles, look xbox pass, and Mstore). But GNU/linux is already "gaming" since most smartphone use it, no, you're talking about distros on desktop and Valve use their own based on Arch. There was already a gaming community but an indie one, using wine for exemple and most of the time, the problem of gaming not developing, was the fault of the Devs OR.... NVIDIA

[@Elkarlo77]

Personally i realy hope it. I am Microsoft PC Gamer since 1991. Microsoft account in Windows 11 is realy bad for PC Gaming. Linux Gaming is not good unless you get proton running. I will try on an old Haswell SteamOS again. And i got another PC to swap over. The biggest Archievement of Microsoft was the compatibility mode on Win 10. You could an old Win95 game and it runs. On Windows 11 as well. The Rumors about Win12 home are disheartening and may kill Epic Store, Valve Store and PC Gaming on the long run. SteamOS maybe the saviour: Lightweight Linux Desktop for the boring stuff and some surfing and SteamOS for gaming. And i think that Valve won't stop the SteamOS support. Even if Win 12 home won't come in with blocked sideload, win13 home may. And at this moment load of PC gamers will be searching an easy to install OS. Microsoft can't block it on the Enterprise or Pro Versions but Home maybe be crippled as hell.

[@REXae86]

Linux age of gaming isn’t happening 😂

[@MatGeeZ]

When the first person uddered the question "will it run doom?", valve took it personally

[@mu11668B]

Gabe said in one of their documentaries that he himself ported Doom onto Windows. I bet they not only took it personally, but ought to also nail it.

[@RaulChis]

Long live the Steam Deck!

[@Leopardeye]

Huzzah!😁😁😁

[@Dollique]

These are exactly the reasons why I decided to go for the Steam Deck rather than a potentially more powerful handheld device like the ROG Ally. The software support Valve is doing is crazy.

[@WhatWillYouFind]

OLED Deck is punch for punch a knockout. I would never gamble a handful of benjamins on ASUS or anyone else when Steam will "just work."

[@Slateproc]

It's not just the insane backend support, but it's also that the ally just has too much horsepower for what it's trying to do

[@MrVariant]

@WhatWillYouFind yeah I remember at launch how much of my steam library was incompatible at launch and it increased vastly over the years. Then consoles wanna charge you for everything (sony), delist a lot, underperform (nintendo) and go digital only (especially xbox).

[@jvaldez5]

I hold the steam deck in such high regard that I put it alongside the ps2 as the gamechanger to play pc games on a handheld.

[@InitialFailure]

Then, you're too young to understand how profound the PS2 was. The Deck has competition in the way of the Switch (which has massively out sold it), Ally (sales are climbing), Go (just released and looking promising), and numerous others. The Deck isn't even king of its own niche market, let alone the video game market writ large. Only if we get really specific does the Deck come out on top in any meaningful way. The PS2 on the other hand, dominated across all available ways to game in its era. It's not even a reasonably close comparison.

[@mr.shplorb662]

@@InitialFailure he meant personally, no idea where you got sales numbers from that

[@literatemax]

@@InitialFailure relevant username?? 💀

[@InitialFailure]

@mr.shplorb662 why do you assume they meant personally? What does "gamechanger" mean to you? Why didn't they just say, "I like the deck as much as the PS2"? I'd argue you want it to not be sales because it'd be patently absurd otherwise. Gamechanger usually means something very impactful, and when we're speaking consoles, it's usually sales or cultural impact, which the deck again, is not at all having the same impact in any meaningful/measurable way. The reason they didn't simply say they like them both a lot is because they likely wanted to convey more than just some vague, personal preference (i.e. sales). We're both assuming here, but you're gonna need some stretching to make your reach 😀

[@mr.shplorb662]

@@InitialFailure I know that for me, the steam deck changed the way I play games. So it's a "Game changer"

[@Rokabur]

This is one of the reasons Valve earns that 30% sales cut. It can not be easy or cheap not only developing Proton but going out of their way to patch games that otherwise might not run at all.

[@Carewolf]

It is still a little aggressive. But Valve is definitely the last case where I will complain about 30%. Once Apple, Microsoft, Sony and everybody else stops taking 30%, valve is next, but they do so much good work for what they take.

[@wibs0n68]

People forgot that 30% is the Industry standard since forever

[@kirbyjoe7484]

@@wibs0n68 It's 25% these days.

[@wibs0n68]

@@kirbyjoe7484 there are no stores that have 25% cut afaik

[@reiniermoreno1653]

30% is the standard in this market, also valve have discount for sales numbers, once the game reach a million of copies sold the percentage drop to 15%

[@DVCBear]

Just ordered a Steam deck, was going to wait until Black Friday but pulled the trigger. Looking forward to getting back into gaming after a 12 year break. This is great. I can keep my Mac and use the steam deck for windows games. And nobody knows I got a new PC.😊

[@aidanmagill6769]

Man, I hope you waited...

[@derrorer]

This didn't age well...

[@DVCBear]

Sorry to report :) I own an LCD, and have and OLED on the way. I enjoyed it that much!! Will gift my LCD version away.

[@NoSmoke1]

@@DVCBear the neutral ending

[@mrkeeny]

Same here, 15 years cessation -apart from playing civ on iPad

[@ramongrady3166]

Had my deck for about 6 months & I absolutely love it!!!

[@smolltaco5667]

Im thinking about getting an oled, dunno if i should get the expensive one though

[@combopybrosharkfrenforhire6420]

I think the cheaper option is probably better for not spending too much but the other oled model is probably worth as much as it’s selling for

[@sentinel7122]

Just bought mine during the last sale, and it really did come to the "rescue" for me lol. Following a major injury/surgery, I've been unable to sit at my desk (in addition to losing my outdoors hobbies) due to pain for nearly a year. I don't play most of my "big" games on it, but I've been making way more time to play Indies and some older titles laying down comfortably! Love this thing.

[@ImUrZaddy]

Play your “big” games through streaming my man!

[@turdferguson3091]

play your big games on it. ive been playing through cp2077 and it runs beautifully. esp with fsr on.

[@XBASS247]

Just play big games on it you will and you be fine matter fact some play better because of the control and get use to track pads add gyro and your a top shooter

[@werpu12]

Heh.. same here, i had a disc prolapse and while i was in rehab valve announced the steam deck which was heavens sent, because I could barely sit, it has been my main gaming device ever since! I almost never turn on my gaming pc anymore!

[@Kansamos_]

I think your point with the “Great on Deck” store page is very on point. I only got my steam deck ~1 month ago, and I’ve already seen, and purchased, two games I would have probably never seen, or bought, if it wasn’t for that specfic store. And I love both of them, such smooth experiences on deck that work flawlessly.

[@NerdNest]

What games are they?

[@Kansamos_]

@@NerdNestCocoon and Planet of Lana! Currently loving both of them.

[@woodtvnetwork]

"You have to fail before you can succeed later" This is so true and it is how we get better as people whether it's a project, skills, or career. Remember, it's not that you failed, it's how you recover later on.

[@carlthewinner]

I ❤ Steam Deck. :)

[@josephbartol7302]

They need the DEFAULT especially on 64gb deck to put shader cache on sd card. Otherwise people will think their “CONSOLE” is not functional when they have no storage

Yeah. Or at least a prompt, saying something like hey, shader cashe takes more than half your space. Would you like us to move it to the sd card?

[@TheGavranatar]

Literally takes 15 mins to unscrew the back cover and put 1TB SSD in it. Or 2TB if you want

[@piens51]

@@TheGavranatar plus geting a tool to clean the cacge is ultra easy.

[@mgord9518]

@@TheGavranatar The issue is that it isn't handled correctly by default. Sure, almost anyone could upgrade their SSD, but the 64GB Steam Deck is designed to be used as-is and it's illogical to store enormous shader caches on the tiny SSD if the user has a much larger SD card inserted.

[@reethardio6432]

just bought a steamdeck yesterday so i can play my games even when my rheumatoid arthritis is flairing up. cant wait till it gets here. your content and fan the deck convinced me to get it

[@trollerbladdering]

I'm only 48 seconds into this video and the production quality was so impressive I had to stop and hit the sub button and type this out.

[@NerdNest]

Thank you!

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

For explanations of shader cache i really like the example of an grenade explosion. The way the explosion will look, the smoke and fire animation will be precalculated the moment you throw your first grenade. You often see the first explosion cause a microstutter in many games. After you threw your first grenade the animation will be saved in a cache so that all the other grenades can explode smoothly...

[@jayagusto9409]

I'd love to NEVER have to support Microsoft again. Gabe is 1000 x better for the consumer then Bill "Lolita express" Gates will ever be.

[@Thee_Dr_Evil]

Proton is great, but Glorious Eggroll has been huge in bringing fixes much sooner due to the lack of "required" testing that Valve has to deal with. I've enjoyed being able to play a large part of my library on Fedora without any major issues. However until we get to a point where the devs will allow Proton to support anti cheat, we're going to be stifled.

[@YakultLitro]

the power of opensource.. if the main dev is so busy updating their code. community is there to the rescue. something microsoft will never understand.

[@AbsurdAsparagus]

@@YakultLitro Microsoft does understand it, they just are greedy and want sole ownership of everything. one day we are gonna learn that these company are just parasites that scam people out of their hard work for the greed of ownership. you receive $50 bucks for every $5000 of profit you bring to the company. Microsoft wants to keep that going. its why they don't want to engage with open source.

[@nasimfaheemalquadir]

Gloriolus Eggroll has their own Linux distro called Nobara OS he also works at Red Hat which im not going to comment on but umm yeah.

[@Bunuffin]

GE is a redhat dev, he is truly a great dev... He makes it so easy for noobs to get into linux gaming with Nobara, i daily drive it and it's a breeze

[@YakultLitro]

@@Bunuffin is Nobara also dev friendly? like installing all dev tools for daily work.

[@MmntechCa]

The Windows Store has always been at the root of Valve's Linux strategy. When Microsoft originally launched it as part of Windows 8, both Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney (Epic) expressed concerns that Windows would go the walled garden route, as Apple had done with iOS. Valve started working on building up Linux as an alternative, while Epic started work on a new store (EGS) that would be attractive to publishers. Of course Valve's contributions to Linux have drastically improved the OS to the point where it's probably 95% there as a Windows replacement for gaming. Anti-cheat in many online multiplayer titles is really the last barrier. EGS meanwhile is failing because it did nothing to incentivize consumers using it.

[@LukeDupin]

I've been a full time Linux daily driver since 2001. I love valve and will support them to the end.

[@imyth4475]

Was looking at getting a steam deck. Great video, thanks for your take!

[@callawolf531]

I just bought my OLED Steam Deck, and got it the Friday after Thanksgiving. It's one of the best experiences I've had with a 'console,' I've ever had in my life, and I had a Switch already by the time I bought my Deck. Definitely glad the Steam Deck exists, and hope they continue showing the deck a lot of love,

[@Voughtrazer]

Valve deserves its success and I wholeheartedly hope they thrive.

[@Leopardeye]

I remember watching vids on YT of ppl making portable ps2’s, portable GameCubes, and so on. We have one console that’s absolutely ALL of them, now. That is AMAZING, to me.

[@TheDaidai05]

I love steam deck and I want valve to know in the future when they make steam deck 2, 3, 4… I’ll buy it

[@somethingelse401]

You mean the two and four? Everyone knows that valve is terrified of the number 3

[@lindsysdf7308]

@@somethingelse401lol

[@misterperson7070]

Yea me too. I’m not sacrificing my fps sorry. I’m so sure valve can do 60+ fps on 1080p it’s just a matter of time. Props to everyone supporting the first generation though

[@TheDaidai05]

Lol I was kinda capping. I just got my steam deck like 1-2 months ago and now the oled is coming out. A little to early for me to go buy an upgrade

[@TheDaidai05]

@@misterperson7070 Understandable. When it comes to what I actually play on steam deck, I don't even bother much with the newer more demanding titles. Like yeah its cool I can play elden ring on a handheld, but when your battery is gonna die in like 2 hours or less I'd rather just play it on my pc. All the games in my backlog from yesteryears like batman arkham knight, ps2 and gamecube emulation, and turn based rpgs is what I actually play on my steam deck that makes it worth it to me. Really its the perfect companion device, but if was my only gaming device I would not be so happy with it

[@carlosmelendez8317]

The Steam Deck is amazing! Not perfect but amazing.

[@Ziggurat1]

Congratulations on nailing the pronunciation of "Swen"! Here in Norway we have the most amount of people named by different variations of this very name. Including half of my parents. Now, since Swen Vincke hails from Belgium, I decided to do a bit of detective work. I checked out a clip of him saying his own name and cross-referenced it with your pronunciation. Lo and behold, both you and Swen Vincke himself pronounce it the very same way! Swen Vincke, and native speakers across all the Scandinavian nations (I can't vouch for the pronunciation in other Nordic countries, the Low Countries, or Germany) tend to say it more like "Sven," with a "V" sound rather than "W." So, you've got it spot on!

[@mcdonald8240]

Steam deck is such a groundbreaking device with all the passion Valve and developers put in to get games running

[@deathtenk]

thank you for accurately describing Proton. So many people say it's an emulator when that just isn't true. it doesn't emulate any hardware, it's a lightweight translation layer it just translates DX and OpenGL calls to vulkan calls.

[@NerdNest]

I think most understand that it isn't actually emulation, but that's the EASIEST way to describe it to someone that knows NOTHING about this stuff.

[@deathtenk]

@@NerdNest well for people who actually know nothing about this stuff they just see a box that plays games. going over the nuances of how it all runs would be a waste of time already. I'd rather simplify things and be somewhat accurate then try to describe them and be misleading or wrong.

[@Gubers]

Mark my words. Steam Machine will be back. Now that so many people are sold on the Steam Deck and more devs are tuning their games for the SteamOS, I think both devs and PC gamers would be far more likely to try a console-like Steam machine. Just think a Steamdeck with a desktop gaming GPU. I bet a ton of people would buy it. And if they did as well with it as the Steam deck then they might just start taking over the market, eventually having games made just for it or at least for Linux.

[@YakultLitro]

19:30 so lenovo took the failed design of SD and made it themselves LOL. you can see the design on the right side wall..

[@emymainor4985]

I found this channel @NerdNest this year when I received my Steam Deck back in January this year, and I love all of your content! That aside, Steam Deck is my most played gaming device this year, its awesome!

[@Vinci480]

While I do agree with most of the video and think its very informative to most people, I think discrediting Mobile/Handheld Gamers as a tiny minority or not a huge audience is just not the truth. If we consider Gaming on Phones and Handhelds as Proper Gaming then this just increases the insane powegrip Video games have on the Entertainment industry. I know sooo many people in my life, especially often women, who don't really care too much about gaming or are invested deep enough to adjust their life styles to fit it BUT who do love gaming experiences like Animal Crossing, Stardew Valley or Sims for example. I think the Steamdeck can do a huge favor into connecting those people with the more core gamers and bride the gap that is often there in these situations. Especially if the price is competitive. I know quite a few people that would love to game but don't wanna fork out a grand for a PC or hell even 400-600 bucks for a console, especially because they prefer being quite mobile or being at different places (which make laptops even a worse idea since they tend to be more expensive). Steamdeck starts to really creep into that field and not only that but also bring almost ALL of the other games that come with that. Not only can someone who wants to experience a more chill and relaxed gaming time with games like Stardew Valley, they could also get into games that some of their more invested gaming friends play while having the lowest barrier to start. Furthermore if they really get hooked but don't have much disposable income they still could try to play around with it and emulate Nintendo Games (often also with better performance) or focus on instead acquiring new games and just having fun. Furthermore it also helps with the more hardcore games with their 1k-4k PCs, by bringing back a huge focus on optimizing games that previously could rely on beefy PCs that could semi bruteforce through stutters and issues. With such a limited system, you can't, You NEED to optimize to some extend to get it running properly. But if Valve already does the big work for you, then its also much easier to make management divert Resources and Time to optimize and fix some of the more internal issues or have some more attention to making sure that the way the game is made could fit on handheld devices like the Steamdeck. Especially concerning Stutters and Memory issues that with the current PC market don't seem to get better. On the handheld market, you don't have that luxury. So I think its not a market that is small or not worth adressing, just a market that hasn't gotten the love it needed yet and needs a proper warm welcome with the rest of the gaming Sphere so it can grow and become wonderful

[@BillNyeTheBountyGuy]

It's so refreshing to see a company stick to a product to make it successful. Every Valve product has been leading up to this basically. Steam Machines, Steam controller, Steam Big Picture, etc.

[@bloepje]

If they would scrap steamos and go full windows, the devices will be $100 more expensive, and they are set back 20 years in development. And slowly all rights of the users will be eaten away due to microsoft having full control over Valve with stranglehold licensing. Valve is doing the world a favor and especially the world of gaming a favor to stay away from Microsoft. It seems like yesterday that Microsoft actively added code to their operating system to make it impossible for competitors of their software (like word) to run on windows. Microsoft is changing. But they have a long way before they are there and trustworthy. Valve is one of the few companies that is transparent and let any other vendor use steam-os without the steam client on their hardware. Anyone else can use it without being bound to Valve or the steam store. Even microsoft could sell their steamos based xbox console :-). That's open.

[@jamesandersonwalsh]

With the success of the steam deck, I really hope Valve brings back a higher fidelity living room box, or a dock that has an external GPU that can effectively function as a standard console. It’s the last peace missing 🤞

[@BrittleScarMusic]

I have to admit, I love my steamdeck. After my gaming PC died a sudden death this became my 'gaming pc' and I play more indi games, rarely any massive shooter games (I might ahve one). So runs the games I want perfectly.

[@ZaberfangX]

I think even if some dev don't believe the steam deck, is good to target getting their game to work then work out what needs to be change to have good controller playable layout that looks good and run well on a small screen. So everything they learn can work well on the switch fixing it on the deck first less work in the long run with feels and controller layout, even how the game looks on small screen.

[@molsen7549]

What I've found is that 30 fps on the Deck's small screen doesn't look that bad. If the fps can even hover between 35-40, it makes things noticeably smoother.

[@misterperson7070]

How does that make sense, people are out here complaining about iphone not standardizing >60hz refresh rate and here we are normalizing

[@valentds]

@@misterperson7070 depends on the game. also hz is not = to fps

[@misterperson7070]

@@valentds So fps

[@apersonontheinternet8006]

@@misterperson7070 Frame consistency is more important than averages. For example, Elden Ring at 60fps seems to get frame studders in a lot of graphically intense scenes but at 40fps it is buttery smooth. I run almost everything at 40fps and 7 watts just for the sake of battery life; if I want the best graphical experience I just remote play it.

[@misterperson7070]

@@apersonontheinternet8006 but my point was would you prefet consistent 40fps or 60+fps. I know its 60+ for me

[@Primal_Carnivore]

Valve is best gaming company until they go to share holder system. That will be that day this company lost everything also.

[@upperjohn117aka]

Valve needs to focus on the popular games so more people feel comfortable using it which adds growth to the user and will eventually bring it to a point where larger games cater to steam deck then they will be able to support smaller studios

[@or1on89]

Well…Valve is actually doing that. And Valve added support to two major anti-cheat softwares as well. The games who do not run on Deck do not run on Deck because of their publishers/devs. Epic will never allow Deck compatibility and Valve can do nothing about it. And frankly I think this is Epic’s loss…

[@upperjohn117aka]

@@or1on89 i worded poorly i was more supporting what they are doing

[@LagiohX3]

5:30 I am sorry but when steam deck was released it was cutting edge hardware atleast gpu wise. It's the same tech that was given to PS5 and Xbox. And there was no other way to get an RDNA APU for a while.

[@NerdNest]

While you’re not wrong, it was also a good deal slower than other hardware people currently play games on. (except the switch) and because of that I say outdated. Perhaps I should have said less powerful.

[@InitialDL84]

I love my Steam Deck to play all the indie games and older AA/AAA titles. I feeel like its the most perfect for indie games. Ill play the more newer/graphics heavy stuff on my PS5.

[@justinp9170]

It's clear to me that Valve is looking at the long game this time around for Steam OS. And if they keep pushing like this, I can see devs slowly making early development choices for the benefit of making sure a game can also run well on Linux (like choosing Vulkan API over DirectX). And eventually Valve will have to do less and less emergency patching for games to work on Steam Deck. Then Valve can move on to the next phase... reallocating the resources used for patching into launching Steam OS onto desktop. I'd love a PC with an OS that puts gaming first, and still flexible enough to get productive work done when needed. 95% of the time I'm firing up Steam, Discord and/or opening the browser. Only a few times I have to work on a spreadsheet or typing a document.

[@santosic]

a gaming-focused OS would actually be pretty interesting on PC, I'd definitely dabble in that, especially since it'd give me an alternative to Windows that can still play the games I want to play. And if it's still an actual desktop where I can work on the occasional document and the occasional photo edit here and there, that'd be even better. I hope that becomes a thing someday.

[@ImperialAgent-us3kn]

Switch 2 is coming and its more powerful than steam deck. Performance will be equivalent to gpu gtx 1060 with cpu power of ryzen 7 something like that.

[@iceburglettuce6940]

I had no great expectations when I got my Deck. I bought it as a bit of a novelty expecting it to be useful sometimes to play older games and a bit of emulation. Since I got it 6 weeks ago I’ve not started my gaming PC or my Xbox. So impressed. I got the 64gb and put in a 1gb SSD and a 256Gb MSD (for emulation storage). I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2.0 at a smooth 60fps on my own medium / low settings (looks great on the small screen), Switch version of Red Dead at 30fps, Mario Odyssey, Crysis 2 and more.

[@vilian9185]

Valve fixed the starfield in the linux direct on the vulkan driver

[@iamarawn]

I just got back from vacation. In the evening, i was playing using the steam deck with headphones and a dualsense controller. So amazing

[@lenowoo]

the 30% sales cut that actually doing something

[@f00fightrs]

Off topic, but can you tell us your camera/lens combo for your vids? I watch all your vids and all I’m thinking is how crystal clear and sharp you look with the buttery smooth bokeh in the background. You’ve nailed the perfect combo for your vids/podcast. Anyway, really love your content in addition to the group podcast sessions.

[@NerdNest]

It’s linked in the gear section of my description.

[@cultus_diabolus]

Never heard of this channel before but only about 60 seconds in I'm hooked. Sometimes the algorithm is good for putting me on to creators like you. Subbed!

[@NerdNest]

Thanks for watching

[@ShredzZ]

Bought my steam deck 3 weeks ago, I’m impressed how this budget mobile pc works, only hope they will not release deck 2 in next year 😅

[@DeterminedTorres]

It’ll be a few years away, so you’re good!

[@doggy101]

oh boy

[@RenegadeBastard]

This is exactly the reason why Steam Deck bests ALL handheld gaming PCs on the market today. Valve’s support is unmatched.

[@InitialFailure]

Unless you want to play anything that's not "Deck verified" which is the majority of the Steam catalog. Or anything not on Steam OS. Other than not being able to play the majority of titles that an Ally or Go or whatever windows system can, sure. It's "King".

[@IceBlueLugia]

@@InitialFailure There are multiple games marked “unplayable” that seem to work fine on Deck for me. As long as you have tastes beyond just playing mediocre copy-pasted online shooters you should be able to play basically anything. ROG Ally and Legion Go don’t have the benefits of SteamOS and the Ally especially controls much worse due to not having trackpads; navigating windows with a controller and touch screen just isn’t great either

[@nekokinds]

@@InitialFailure this comment proves nothing and only shows a severe lack of understanding from you lol

[@flamestoyershadowkill6400]

@@InitialFailure steam os is just linux, if it gets playable on a 1060 on linux it probably is on deck

[@InitialFailure]

@calicoe can you play the current COD on a steam deck without going through a bunch of other workarounds/programs?

[@espiya5557]

If ever Microsoft starts to make their store good, Epic Store will be in trouble. They either become like EA that becomes a third-party launcher for Microsoft Store or ride with Valve for Linux support.

[@TheFrantic5]

I'm having fun trying to get dumb stuff to run on the deck, but it's too easy. The other day I got nostalgic and installed DevilutionX and threw in a rip of my original Diablo 1 CD, and it just works, and has built-in gamepad controls.

[@TastySnackies]

Videos like this remind me just how bloated and unnecessary modern games development is. We need to go back to simpler, low-fidelity graphics and basic gameplay mechanics.

[@davidjeter5067]

Microsoft has overstepped too many boundaries for my tastes, enabling the cloud after a fresh install of Windows 10 (ran it before that for about 6 years, no issues like folders disappearing off the beast of a gaming PC I built and nothing disappearing off my beast of a music production PC I built), Windows 11 had issues with some of my games/emulators, so back to Windows 10. MS cloud was enabled by default (blindsided me as it was NEVER enabled on any computer I built and I am unaware of any notification or an email explicitly telling me that the cloud on my MS account was going to be enabled and backing up my storage). I had a folder I really needed for school deleted off my system and stored in cloud, text file I really really really needed that I had put 2 hours of work into was GONE because I was "out of storage" which infuriated me (as between my two computers and backup external hard drive I have 40tb of storage). I am downloading my entire Steam library into Linux Mint, everything I have ran so far (with some tweaking on some games as I needed different versions of Proton, and GE Proton to get everything working), assuming I can get Native Instruments Kontakt libraries to run in Wine...bye bye Microsoft. Good riddance. I can not stay with Windows because I know how this goes...uninstall something MS has deeply embedded in Windows...it doesn't really go anywhere. I wonder if the cloud is still enabled despite me uninstalling it? What else is going to be "backed up" on a cloud service I never asked for? My military records? Tax records? Backup of my birth cirtificate? Financial stuff that I would have to dig for to find the paper versions or make a bunch of phone calls to get them printed out? Pictures? What will it be? Just the fact I have to ask these questions or wonder about this is a deal breaker FOREVER with using their garbage OS. Tux will never do that to me...Long live Lord Gabe!!!

[@raycasta10]

I think rn the devs r not underestimating the power of the steam deck. Definitely the proton files helped, i rmbr when i booted up madden for the first time, it was so stuttery. Then suddenly a few weeks after, the game runs smoooth.

[@saurabhojha3708]

General gaming in linux via proton is pretty great, the only change I want is for steam to have the option come with the option of overriding the respective game launchers and play directly (even if it is offline)

[@AdityaWaghmare]

That will never happen as publishers will simply pull their game out from Steam.

[@microcolonel]

People are mentioning wine and DXVK being part of the success, but another nerdy detail that was important to this story: because the Linux kernel does not have stable ABIs for drivers between versions, it is extremely impractical for device vendors to publish proprietary kernel drivers for Linux. Through this and a variety of other conditions, it made business sense for AMD to publish adequate documentation to implement drivers, and eventually to publish their kernel drivers as source code and upstream them. They also put significant resources into Mesa with the Radeon and RadeonSI OpenGL drivers. When Vulkan came out, heroic Mesa contributors produced RADV and AMD published AMDVLK... ...and because of all of this open source access and the efforts of motivated developers later supported by Codeweavers, Red Hat, and Valve, this AMD/Mesa Linux gaming platform really came together, and enabled the Steam Deck. Valve is now supporting work across the whole stack, from the kernel to Mesa to platform libraries like SDL and Wine/Proton, and this access to the whole platform is crucial to their ability to make any of this work.

[@calebrasak6941]

Love my steam deck and LOVE the move to more simple well thought out hardware. I still have my full size desktop with a 3090 but I prefer to game on my steam deck. The Deck just makes me want to play games I wouldnt normally play. My desktop is basically just for FPS games at this point. I do hope Valve offers a better docked desktop experience with the next gen deck. I really hope to see an EGPU docked option (maybe using occulink). If I could get rid of my desktop system I would happily if Valve could figure this out.

[@spugelo359]

I played Dark Souls 3 below 30 FPS with an old computer and it worked just fine. And even crazier, no controller. Yea the game is is a bit hard, but it doesn't require the kind of reaction time that would require you to have high FPS. If you would rather play at 60 FPS much lower graphics idk what to tell you.

[@DaleTwokey]

No, Valve didn't "figure out" the most important API calls. Wine team did. Vavle did improve wine significantly to make Proton work, but they didn't "figure it out".

[@MGsubbie]

8:00 This requires some context though. Bloodborne came out at a time where 30fps was pretty much the standard for the vast majority of console games. While Redfall came out over 2 years into the current generation of consoles, at which point 60fps had become the standard. I will say that I want 60fps for all my games. Even turn-based strategy, as those involve a lot of camera panning, which looks really chuggy at 30.

[@Bunuffin]

Valve put so much money into wine to make gaming on linux possible, now linux is the only system i run... Linux is more stable, easier to use (Yes it is easier, you have to learn do things a lil differently but it is easier), free (free for freedom) and without spying. Windows is a dinosaur that doesn't innovate, it's bloated and the NTFS journaling is just pure garbage... There is no such a thing as degradation of performance with time, windows will lock down and destroy free (free in freedom) computing. There is another PRO to using linux, the dogcrap triple ass games with anti-consumer practices don't work and i love it

[@WhatWillYouFind]

Steam OS wasn't a failure, it was a necessary investment toward what became the Steam Deck. Valve has LONG TERM plans for the longevity of the platform, as opposed to most other companies who only seek the quarterly sales goals. Valve has remained the market leader for over a decade in part because they have tried new things and on the face of it failed, but like with anything you can't learn without failing.

[@wiipronhi]

14:18 " Value has no responsibility to fix Proton when a developer patches a game" Excuse me? Value is absolutely responsible for making sure that Proton works with games that get patched/updated. It's not the developers responsibility to ensure compatibility with a system that is supposed to directly translate their games to Linux/Steamdeck. If the developer has released a game for Linux directly it's on them but not when using Proton as that isn't something developed by the dev nor something the dev has really opted into thier game using in the first place (in most instances, with the exception being those who have Steamdeck settings profiles).

[@IceBlueLugia]

Why can’t they just store the shader cache on the SD Card? Some games are taking like 5+ GB extra just from this bullshit. Which isn’t a lot normally, but definitely is on the 64 GB model

[@GarydeBrown]

The PS Portal hate is fascinating af to me. I have the Oled SD, the ROG Ally and the portal and I *love* the Portal. All these “substitute solutions” do not come close matching the Portal experience at all. If you hate the Portal it’s because your internet sucks or you don’t know how to properly set it up. After the latest software update, it performs even better than at launch.

[@manuelkimpel3788]

Only gods can run windows games on a Linux based operating system. And Gabe Newell is our PC gaming god who made this happen. Thank you for the video! :)

[@krux02]

regarting 21:43 : no not an Ad on youtube, an ad on steam deck itself for a game. If they buy that and it doesn't work that would be the real frustration. Regarding vale stopping proton. Right now it doesn't seem like it is going to happen, but Microsoft has plans to buy Valve. They don't want to be bought, but it might happen. And then Steam-OS will become variant of windows.

[@cameronfarrell9076]

"you wouldn't be watching this if you weren't". I don't know why I'm watching this because I despise handheld gaming 😂 But it's interesting nonetheless.

[@te0nani]

Valve ist doing a tremendous Job with proton and paying a lot of good devs who are working out the bugs and kinks, but we have to acknowledge that proton exists because of wine and a few developers, ho made dxvk and vkd3d. They made it possible, Valve saw the opportunity and backed it up. And all that was only possible on top of vulkan.

[@wyvern681]

Been watching your channel since the steamdeck was announced. Your videos have really been enjoyable the quality of them has really improved lately just wanted to congratulate you on such great work kudos!!

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Valve is right to be worried about the Windows Store. The only thing holding it back is reputation. I haven't noticed a meaningful difference between it and the Mac App Store in several years.

[@Azaurus1]

Also reaching the ps4, xbox one benchmark graphics wise is important the current and future games that like that benchmark form handhelds/budget pcs.

[@AbsurdAsparagus]

i wanna push back on the idea that steamdeck is not a console. Game Console is a layman's term, a vague category of computer whos primary purpose if playing games. It is not a precision term of computer taxonomy. Concole like the words fish, tree, monkey, continent, and porn, does not have a precise definition. but you still know what those things are when i say them. if i say "hey look at that monkey in that tree playing a game console" and you see Gabe Newell playing a steam deck in a coconut tree, you would not be confused by me calling the steam deck a game console.

[@Rocksteady72a]

Between my Portal & Steam Deck, it really feels like a new generation rather than the middle of a continuing generation.

[@buhbuh305]

elden ring really put it into perspective with how much work they put into improving their os when i first tried it on steam deck id get 40-50 fps usually around 40 with lows to 30 fps. when i play now its a constant 60 fps now whenever i have a spare 30 minutes i add an extra 15 deaths to mohg

[@aeiounix]

All consoles are just games running on an device with an OS. Steam Deck is no different. It's a console. The distinction is irrelevant. This one just gives you root access out of the box.

[@LegionIscariot]

The Steam Machines failed because the companies that Valve partnered with obviously didnt get the point of Steam Machines. The Steam Deck is a Steam Machine as far as im concerned. So i dont think they failed. I think they had a rough start.

[@zipkitty]

The only mistake that Valve made with the Deck is targeting AAA players with their ads. I know why they did it, they wanted it to be a success. This is the ideal system for emulating older games, playing smaller games and playing with other people on the go with a couple of controllers.

[@EURIPODES]

This is why I'm thrilled to give my money to Valve. Their competitors like to complain about their market share but they have in no way earned my trust and respect like Gabe and the boys have.

[@xenos_n.]

I'm almost 40 and I still say "program" a lot instead of "app" too 💀

[@thepatriotsfan7127]

I remember when everyone shat on Valve when they unveiled Artifact back in 2017 Oh how the turntables

[@Mr.Wiksila]

I dont think valve will push linux as main gaming platform since xbox have kinda big hold on majos titles in future, if both sides play nicely with linux it would be awesome to see not gonne lie

[@Lando43]

Lies of P plays like butter on the steam deck. All high Settings and I get 45+ fps. a lot of the times i get a stable 50-60

[@gulapula]

Wine is the humblest software Ive ever seen. Wine serves a pivotal role in so many Mac and Linux ports, and yet still has an old webpage straight out of the late 2000s.

[@provis83]

You give Valve credit for fixing other peoples games but that's not whats really going on. They are usually modifying proton so that it interprets correctly. This is only needing fix because its running on proton in most cases. It's in their best interest to do so since this is the platform they've chosen to move forward with.

[@Rick_Ibbott]

I have a games library spanning 20 years. Valve releases a handheld that can run most of these games. The deck was a no brainer for me - PC is still my main but the handheld is there for other times. Ace.

[@HearMeLearn]

I don't like the argument that it's not a console. If it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, acts like a duck, it's probably a duck. It's just also a pc. Is the ps2 not a console? Because that can run Linux too technically. Idk why people are so scared to call it what it is: a console. For clarification, a device like Aya neo would not count as a console because it doesn't have it own custom OS, it doesn't have a first party game store pre installed, it's just a gaming laptop in handheld form. The steam deck is a console with a pc mode.

[@Teisharocz]

All I want to do is play 7dtd, lol! Not perfect on SD, but I'm getting there. Building is hard!

[@vilpertzon]

Can somebody explain me how Shaders work in Windows? From my understanding Windows does not download any shader caches.

[@icejohn94]

nah, listen... a console is exactly what the steam deck is, it's a handheld device running on steam yes it uses linux but the xbox is running on windows. so technicaly it is a pc but it is under a console format. so it is a console and they would have to make a dedicated shop for the steam deck to make it a real console and that's it nothing more.

[@JSmedia918]

as a casual gamer, i love the deck. i used to have a razer laptop and got rid of it. i still wanted to game and this hit that spot for me. i game for just a few hours and mostly indie games. they all play great and the battery lasts for hours. during weekends when i might have time to really sit and play, i hook it up to my monitor and i'm good to go. for casual gamers, i cant recommend it enough.

[@kaboomsihal1164]

9:50 lmfao "This is another example of... shit of the exact opposite of what I was saying lemme pivot real quick"

[@jootersblaccat]

Bloodborne running at 30 fps is one of the most complained about things in the souls fanbase... which says a lot when that is one of the only complaints the fans have about the series

[@MuffinTheCat]

I'm personally saving up to use a legion go to replace my deck, I use gamepass, and the only reason I'd not switch to legion go is if gamepass somehow gets on steam