How Will Epic Universe Impact Orlando Theme Park Crowds?

Universal Studios Orlando is set to unveil its most ambitious project yet, Epic Universe. This grand theme park promises to revolutionize the visitor experience, but how will it impact the attendance at the existing Orlando theme parks, especially the legendary Walt Disney World? The rivalry between Disney and Universal has always been intense, with both companies constantly vying for the top spot in the hearts of theme park enthusiasts. The competition between Universal Studios Orlando and Walt Disney World is nothing new, but the introduction of Epic Universe adds a new dimension to this battle. The park's unique themes and cutting-edge attractions, including the highly anticipated Super Nintendo World, are expected to draw massive crowds.
As Epic Universe takes shape, Disney World faces a formidable challenge. The allure of new experiences at Universal Studios Florida is undeniable, and the presence of Epic Universe in Orlando will inevitably shift some of the attendance dynamics. Disney vs Universal Orlando will no longer be just about the existing parks but about how each entity evolves and adapts to the changing landscape. Epic Universe Orlando's impact on Universal Studios Orlando and Universal Studios Florida will be significant, potentially drawing visitors away from other attractions within the Universal portfolio. The showdown of Universal vs Disney World will likely lead to a renaissance of creativity and innovation in both camps. This clash of titans, Universal Studios vs Disney World, could usher in an era of unprecedented enhancements and expansions in the theme park industry. In the grand scheme of things, the rise of Epic Universe Universal Studios may be seen as a catalyst for growth and improvement across all Orlando theme parks. While the exact impact on attendance at existing parks remains to be seen, one thing is certain: the epic battle of Universal vs Disney will continue to captivate the imagination of theme park fans for years to come.
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[@Luke_Go]

I can imagine Bob Iger and Disney's board members walk around WDW and see visitors wear Epic Universe merch 😂

[@Foxyman18]

I saw at least 3 in MK the other day

[@Desco9111]

You think Iger and his cronies actually walk around the park? WITH THE PEASANTS!?

[@Oldmangamess]

@@Desco9111I was about to say that too I’m like they walk around the parks and actually see what’s wrong with their parks?

[@jeffgilbert5109]

I was at Six Flags Magic Mountain, and the ride attendants were roasting guests over the PA speaker who were wearing Disney merch.

[@officialmonarchmusic]

I don't think Iger actually understands the parks. He just sees them as brands and dollar signs

[@kalzium8857]

I think we are seeing two important things at Orlando. Universal makes a move with epic universe and Disneys weakness. Epic Universe is an ambitious themepark and makes even hardcore Disney fans curios. For Disney this park will be concerning. It may give a sizeable chunk of Disney visitors a reason to give Universal a try. These visitors may find that Universal is a better experience and become Universal fans.

[@SalivatingSteve]

As a SoCal resident, I’ve never visited Universal Orlando. I last visited WDW in August 1998 and we skipped Animal Kingdom in favor of another day at Epcot :)

[@CobbleBompster]

@@SalivatingSteveso, are you going to give Universal a try, or…?

[@irinicela9503]

@@SalivatingStevethis comment was very out of place. Like wth are we supposed to do with the info you gave us??

[@metallicnole4514]

I'll never quite understand why there's such a split with fandoms. A lot of disney fans do go to universal. Yes they will check out epic universe. But they will never stop going to disney. I will always make the comparison that disney fans are like taylor swift fans. They may listen to other artists music, but that won't stop them from being a swifty. I personally like both resorts and both have their pros and cons.

[@irinicela9503]

@@metallicnole4514 nah even most of Disney adults and hardcore fans are disappointed at Disney

[@oceanairboy]

You can walk back and forth between Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure. That's probably why Universal Studios didn't lose any attendance compared to others.

[@Speediturtle]

Good point

[@freakydonald3611]

Yup

[@metallicnole4514]

Though you can't walk between those parks and epic

[@JoshuaMoore831]

@@metallicnole4514 True, but the free shuttle service will be a huge thing for Epic.

[@teamkong9216]

@@metallicnole4514unlike Disneys one big bubble, universal could pull off two seperate bubbles or campuses, with the transportation system they are offering, it’s just as good as disneys, and a 4th park could take a layout next to epic universe similar to the main layout universal already has

[@rb5078]

I’ll be one of those new guests materializing out of thin air. Can’t wait!

[@millcitymercantile]

Me too!

[@mikeyunderstars]

in my opinion, the reason AK’s attendance is so low currently is because it closes so early every day

[@Southeastern_Thrills]

To be honest, it's surprising that Animal Kingdom isn't six feet under in attendance right now. Busch Gardens Tampa has all the same great animals but, they also have world class rides, lower prices, and lower crowds. Just shows how many people are loyal to Disney.

[@metallicnole4514]

Animal kingdom needs more rides and longer park hours

[@mr.pencilsharpener8004]

Busch Gardens Tampa is like 2 hours away from the theme park capital of the world. It’s super easy to get to Animal Kingdom when it’s on the same property that most guests are at. Plus Animal Kingdom rules, lack of rides be damned.

[@nathanblalock7019]

@@metallicnole4514 Also better transportation. The other 3 parks have many different modes of transportation to and from: bus, boat, and Monorail/Skyliner. Animal Kingdom only has bus.

[@metallicnole4514]

@@nathanblalock7019 I've never been to animal kingdom, but it looks like the park that needs some major tlc. I always thought of it as a park that is skippable without feeling like I'm missing much

[@xviper2k]

Busch Gardens offers nothing for people who aren't coaster enthusiasts, and the park itself looks abysmal compared to Animal Kingdom. It gets lower crowds for a reason.

[@DapperIndividual]

Personally, i think this is a "rising tide lifts all ships" situation. Most non Universal parks will take a bit of a hit, but the larger Disney parks like Magic Kingdom and Epcot or other major parks like Sea World will probably see an increase in attendance. I can imagine the average tourist visiting the Universal parks is probably thinking "okay two days for Epic Universe, a day for Universal Studios and Island's of Adventure, then... maybe the last day we'll visit "X" park with our extra day."

[@Speediturtle]

The thing is though, Disney has always survived on the guests who stay on their property for most or the entirety of their vacation. With epic universe drawing in guests to stay at universal, even for just 50% of their trip, it will still cause Disney to lose out on a piece of their revenue

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Sea World draws a lot more local Florida residents than the other big parts. My last trip last June made it abundantly clear that the majority of guest in Sea World and Busch Gardens Tampa were locals.

[@LChatmanFL]

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 Correct, they offer an annual pass for all 4 of their parks at a price point that is really affordable. I have their 4 park AP and it's only 25 bucks or so on flex pay. Plus I get 4 guests tickets each yr, cash to use in the parks certain months, preferred parking, etc. The value is hard to beat.

[@mr.pencilsharpener8004]

People have to remember that there is no attraction with a bigger draw to your average Joe than a picture in front of Cinderella Castle. MK will probably benefit from Epic Universe’s opening, especially if they add all of the capacity that’s been rumored/announced.

[@elevenb6967]

@@mr.pencilsharpener8004 Just for a picture in front of Cinderella Castle? That's hilarious.

[@batshtcrazy5293]

The answer to your first bunch of questions? Yes. Yes, its going to be insanely packed. I mean I know people are saying its too much hype, and not gonna happen. But IF the price is right, and IF they don't make it too compicated for guests, this place is going to blow up BIG! We shall see. For those of us in Florida, its super exciting!

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

The pandemic delayed the construction and opening of Epic by several years so there has been a LOT of time for people to anticipate this place. Social media has a bunch more information on it as well and tons of CCs are going to flood the park when it opens and upload content. If it isn't packed then something has gone terribly terribly wrong IMO.

[@thewannabegamer9]

I’m across the country and *I’m* insanely hyped. So I can’t even imagine how exciting it is to be so close to it!! 😆

[@dangilmore8511]

The Elephant in the room not addressed in this video, there is not a great deal of good will towards Disney at present like it or not. Star Wars and Marvel popularity waning, polarising politics, park price increases but reduced services. Disgruntled guests now have a viable alternative to Disney in Universal

[@coastersandbrews]

Great video, a similar trend will probably happen. I think the biggest difference between now and late 90s is the presence of social media and how that will affect attendance numbers. Also Disney basically has no new attractions opening up in the next 3-4 years, I wonder how that will factor in

[@adammayo4377]

5-6 million has to be calendar year attendance, not 12 months. All Disney and Universal parks are currently getting attendance of 9 million or more. Epic Universe won't have only half the crowd IOA gets.

[@RichyRIchy29]

Its also going to depend on hotel costs. Right now, Disney resort fees are outrageous. With Epic adding more modern luxurious hotels, it might incline people to Stay at Universal versus Disney, which will greatly affect attendance to the parks

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Except that Universal Resort hotel prices are inching upward as well. They are nowhere near the outrageous levels at Disney but they are definitely more expensive now than they were on my last trip to Universal in 2022

[@metallicnole4514]

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 Inflation is a bitch

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

@@metallicnole4514 that is a fact.

[@SS-or7mz]

We last visited Universal Studios in April. We were actually contemplating whether or not to renew our annual passes. Unfortunately, Universal staff could not provide us with any information other than that Epic Universe would not be included in any foreseeable future annual passes. With the information we were given, we decided to hold off on renewing our five passes and to save our money for Epic. If we had been given any options for future upgrades on our passes or any benefit for renewing we would have. So that makes sense that attendance would suffer in the own company's parks. If there is an annual pass for all three parks we will pay more and get them. If not we will just go to Epic next year.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

THAT is WILD. I have to think that policy will change by the time the park opens. It makes no sense to have an annual pass split up among the parks or that is not inclusive. They would seriously be shooting themselves in the foot if they did and it's going to create a massive imbalance in attendance between the old parks and and Epic.

[@meganashlea]

Our passes expire in Dec and we probably won’t be renewing either. Won’t be able to make it back until at least August 2025 for a decent length stay. We’ll do an Orlando Informer Meetup in between if we need a visit lol

[@dennispaulv]

My pass renewal is on January 3rd. If they cannot guarantee me I can add epic access then I will not renew.

[@sha2596]

I am a new visitor to Universal who was also interested in getting a new Annual pass to include all parks to then do multiple Universal trips. I’ve heard the same as you and this has changed my strategy to just doing one trip for EU specifically and then just renewing my Incredipass for more Disney trips.

[@lydiamvaughan]

Last I heard we didn’t have any information on whether Epic would be included or not.

[@justgarfield9721]

Your channel is so underrated, im so invested in your Universal studios Orlando vs Disney World saga. You are also very good at narrating your videos, you sound like everything is coming from your mind instead of a script. And your really good at captivating the audience, please keep going!

[@jameswambold1599]

I think you give Disney more credit than they deserve. The Universal Express pass for staying on property beats what Disney offers. Disney may also give you a break on something, but most people don't know about all the hidden costs. Having to buy Genie Plus and Lightning lanes in very costly but that is the only way if you want to ride the rides. I think Disney will drop slightly but I will attribute that to the current Disney backlash.

[@mafalda594]

One thing to keep in mind with Disney's water park deal is that, unless I'm mistaken, guests will only be able to visit the water park for free on their arrival day. That means it's not necessarily such a good deal, especially seen as they don't usually stay open late.

[@princess_sarina_aria_elysia]

Epic Universe is actually motivating me to want to get to Orlando sooner than I would, whereas Disney World was motivating me to put it off until they sort out their capacity issues and nickel and diming, not to mention as a no-longer-Disney-adult now there's only about 3-4 rides per gate at Disney that interest me. Tokyo Disney has overtaken WDW now as the dream disney destination. So yes universal have successfully turned Orlando from the 'Disney World trip' to the 'Epic Universe trip' once I actually researched

[@jlma889]

I wonder what happened to SeaWorld’s attendance between 1998-2000. I could see DAK and IOA create an increase, guests adding it at the end of a trip, but I could also see people choosing to not go at all in those 3 years. Gonna have to go googling!

[@batshtcrazy5293]

What happened?!?! Oh I dunno. Maybe people woke up to the fact that they have big sea animals in what amounts to bathtubs. Or maybe it's because they treat said animals as nothing more than $$$. Their coasters are insanely good, and they are much easier to afford. But people tend to vote with their hearts sometimes. It's why Disney has stupid amounts of people still going, even if the prices have gotten out of hand, while the value has dropped dramatically. DIS and SW won't fail, but they're gonna suffer for a while until they get their priorities straight, and start giving a damn about what their customers want and need.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

@@batshtcrazy5293 None of that happened in that timeframe. It would be much later than 2000 before that Black Fish film came out.

[@metallicnole4514]

I like going to seaworld because it's not that crowded. I can walk on to most of the coasters

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

@@metallicnole4514 depends on when you go. Last June it was like that in the early part of the day we walked right on to Pipeline, Manta, Mako and Kraken. But after lunch the park was PACKED and we stood in very long lines for Atlantis, Ice Breaker and the whitewater rafts (I forget the name).

[@metallicnole4514]

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 The rapids ride gets the longest line. But I don't do water rides so it matters not to me. Though I think penguin trek will get a long line.

[@Remysnum1fan]

That thumbnail is truly *EPIC*

[@firefly314]

Sure guests will head to Universal more in the next few years, but the guests that will continue to go to Disney World are families with young kids. Universal properties have some family friendly IP but families with little little kids have more options with Magic Kingdom, Epcot for rides and entertainment geared towards their needs.

[@Th8rgoddess]

There is something that is hard to calculate, but needs to be accounted for. When California Adventure, Animal Kingdom and Islands of Adventure opened potential guests didn't have nearly as much of an idea of what to expect as they do now. Yes, guests knew what to expect from the companies, but they didn't know many specific from the parks themselves. First, there wasn't nearly as much information available about what the parks would include. Now there are construction updates, concept art, menus, ride mock up videos, interviews with creators and a ton of other information to let people know what the park will be like that wasn't available 20+ years ago. Second, Nintendo World Orlando is going to be a beefed up version than the one in LA and a fraternal twin, if not carbon copy of the one in Universal Studio Tokyo. People solidly know what to expect and they are hyped. In the past there were people that wanted to try out a park because it's new. But most people held back because they didn't know what to expect and waited for word of mouth. Since people know what to expect much better they're going to chance going sooner. Even if it's just because of Nintendo World and the obscene amounts of good reviews the other worlds have gotten on KZbin. I also think that because Disney is offering such good deals to retain guests Universal will still be offering good deals to compete. There may be something where Epic Universe is full price, but everything else is cheaper. M My thought is that Epic Universe is going to surprise the hell out of everyone and do unexpectedly well bringing a sizable amount of new guests into the area. The other Universal properties will stay relatively the same or do better because of it. While Disney takes a hit because of the bad press it's been getting, there being nothing exciting going on besides the deals they're offering and Universal pulling guests away.

[@RobertoLombardiActor]

2025 will be the first year we stay on property at Universal and are not planning any days at Disney. It will be entirely a Universal vacation. Don't get me wrong, Disney is great, but over the last few years there's been nothing added we need to revisit. Guardians and Tron are cool. Moana was nice, but a one and done. The EPCOT renovation is, in general, lackluster.

[@DinosaurDude53747]

You put Mickey Mouse’s head on squidward’s body. Damn.

[@SalivatingSteve]

The underdog that you should have included attendance for here are the Sea World and Busch Gardens parks. They’ve been rapidly adding new coasters recently. How did the opening of DAK & IOA affect the attendance at Busch Gardens Tampa and Sea World Orlando? Cos they have animals, well-themed family coasters, and even “drinking around the world” at all their parks. While this chain tends to compete more with Cedar Flags, they’re a worthy competitor in the Orlando market.

[@SK-yx7hm]

I think itll make orlando explode even more tbh, its been 20 years since we have gotten a new theme park gate for major companies. Its gonna be a huge draw.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

That airport is already busy AF! I can see a need for expansion again there sooner than later at this rate....

[@kc3d777]

I think the difference with Epic this time over Animal Kingdom and Islands of Adventure is its coming at a time where there is a Disney revolt happening. Guests are actively abandoning Disney right now for their poor park decisions and lack luster offering paired with absurd pricing. Look in comments about Disney ride showcases or news and you will see so many people saying they are never going back and leaving Disney for Universal. Epic also has the advantage of likely being more affordable, less of a headache and boasting stronger IP and day one rides then Animal Kingdom. They have Nintendo plus another Wizarding World land both huge hitters and massively appealing with both a kids land and new coasters. Coming off the backs of Hagrids and Velocicoaster even the older coaster head crowd is going to want to check out their offerings. With how advertisement and hype is spread Epic is a way better advertised park and far more anticipated with constant updates and news about its development.

[@millcitymercantile]

I’ve never gone to an Orlando theme park and I’m purposely waiting for Epic Universe to up soon I can finally visit Orlando. I’m think about visiting for 4 or 5 days and I’m planning on staying and visiting Universal Studios parks only.

[@turcj]

I hate the way everyone just brushes Animal Kingdom aside because it only has a handful of rides. CHECK OUT THE ANIMALS! That is the whole purpose of the park!

[@TVTIME-be8ze]

You know I’ve never been to Animal Kingdom and then I looked on the map and I did notice that there wasn’t too many rides except for a few and one being expedition Everest

[@BeantownMrs]

The water park deal for Disney is only good for check-in day. IDK how many people want to ride water rides right after getting off a plane🤷‍♀

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

I wonder how they treat guest that get in on a late flight after the parks close. Do they get the next day or if you come at 10PM are you just SOL?

[@BeantownMrs]

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 Considering this is Disney, I think you're SOL if you arrive after the water parks close.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

@@BeantownMrs probably. Since I'm not a morning person and always try to avoid flights that leave at the butt crack of dawn I guess I would just be, as you said SOL.

[@dinodan3296]

Orlando better be upgrading that airport. They can barely handle the crowds as it is.

[@fem0111]

I think there’s a relevant difference between types of tourists, specifically international and US tourists. Seeing how Brazilians and Latinos travel to Orlando, even if we say “I’m going to Disney” it always includes all/most theme parks in the area. For Latino tourists, there’s no such thing as staying in one resort only. I totally agree, I think a lot of people will fit islands of adventure and studios in one day and use the “second universal day” for epic.

[@jimt9245]

Great analysis. This difference time is Universal has been in a positive growth mode since the addition of Harry Potter over 10 years ago. Epic Universe is poised to become the flag ship park with expansion plots which more attractions on the horizon. Epic universe will have no other new competing this period where as Animal Kingdom vs Islands of Adventure competed for interest. Disney also skated on their reputation as the benchmark for theme parks. After 25 years, Animal Kingdom has only added a few new attractions and has not offered many reasons to visit again. Disney does not have quite the shine that it once had. Disney is hoping that people will still stay on property, where Disney may have some home field advantage, but staying at Universal or in the greater Orlando area gives families the flexibility of Universal, Sea World or other non-Disney parks. Universal Studios and Islands are a little worn. But if Universal continues to upgrade all of the parks for the next 10 years, we may be seeing the epicenter of theme park interest moving out of Walt Disney World.

[@tavvyprods1275]

Part of me doesn’t want the Universal Island Of Adventure retired, especially Toon Lagoon.

[@Theworldofdisneygamining]

Epic universe will benifit both companies by bringing more tourist to Orlando

[@ducktails1695]

But they're not going to WDW...so I doubt it'll benefit WDW much.

[@mr.pencilsharpener8004]

@@ducktails1695Almost every tourist going to Orlando for theme parks are going to make time to visit the park with the castle- even if Universal is their focus.

[@ducktails1695]

@@mr.pencilsharpener8004 that may be true but the difference is, they may only spend 1 or 2 days versus 5 or 6. Time will tell long term.

[@chuck32504]

You figure if they get 5 million people to visit in the first year and they each spend on avg 500$. That is 2.5 billion in income from this park in its first year. I would say they will have 0 issues getting the money back they spent into making this. I would even go as further the next expansion of the park will begin if they hit that massive number starting 1 year after they open.

[@samplautz5586]

Considering IOA got 11 million last year, I don’t see why 6 million is a stretch. If anything, I think they are definitely underestimating how many people will visit

[@danlove3635]

If you want to figure out the expected peak hour & daily trip counts for Epic Universe submit a FOIA request to the local government(probably City of Orlando) for the Traffic Impact Analysis and Development Impact Review. They likely had to submit that to get permits released for construction. They may fight you on it though if there is some confidential info but worth a shot.

[@SalivatingSteve]

The underdog that you should have included attendance for here are the Sea World and Busch Gardens parks. They’ve been rapidly adding new coasters recently. How did the opening of DAK & IOA affect the attendance at Busch Gardens Tampa and Sea World Orlando? Cos they have animals, well-themed family coasters, and even “drinking around the world” at all their parks. While this chain tends to compete more with Cedar Flags, they’re still a worthy competitor in the Orlando market (especially since DAK was a response to BGT)

[@tytyty]

thinking about going to orlando next year (for epic universe obviously) and not sure if i will bother going to disney parks. done them before and i personally prefer universal parks. i think a lot of people might be thinking the same as it isn't cheap to go there haha. a lot of people will choose between disney and universal, with epic being the shiny new thing i could see disney losing guests for a while.

[@oceanairboy]

I think the argument could maybe be made that that many new people will come? I mean look what happened with Disney springs. It used to just I'll be surface-level parking, then they had a bunch of new stores and restaurants. And those are only stores and restaurants. Yet somehow, those parking garages that more than quadruple the amount of parking at Disney Springs are filled up to the max pretty much every weekend. All those new people did come and they came from somewhere.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Disney Springs and Universal City Walk are harder to quantify since you don't have to buy a ticket to get into those areas. Sure you could look at their comps on those stores and restaurants (if you have access to that information) but even that isn't the whole story there.

[@oceanairboy]

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 no, you don't have to buy a ticket but everything there is to do at Disney Springs is very expensive. Everything that you buy at Disney Springs is very expensive. All the food at Disney Springs is very expensive. So they still basically quadrupled or more their parking spaces and just built a few more restaurants and stores and those parking garages are still full every weekend. I wasn't making the comparison with citywalk, however CityWalk you do have to pay to park still unless it's after 6 o clock

[@Mostwnr207]

People are gonna be pissed to find out you can only go one day to Epic out of a multi day pass. They are limiting attendance to start

[@wpaunan]

He didn’t mention the 1300 extra acres Epic has for expansion. That is enough space for nearly three Epics. Disney better get going. It’ll take them years to catch up. They better have announcements during D23

[@sketchycat6223]

The opening week of epic universe might be the best time ever to visit other lesser parks in the area. Sea world, Busch gardens, funspot etc etc.

[@NeonJ1]

Honestly I think epic universe will have a larger affect for universal. People stay on Disney property as there are so many parks. Now that universal offers 3 parks, it makes it a single resort destination. Imagine 5 days at universal, skipping Disney completely.

[@officialmonarchmusic]

I think that Animal Kingdom and Epcot are going to both get HUGE drop-offs. People are willing to spend one of their days at THE Magic Kingdom and maybe a day at another park, usually HS because Galaxy's Edge, but 4 parks, bit of a stretch. Those two are probably going to be affected the most. Which is a bit of a shame, because AK is my favorite of the parks and I don't want Disney to desecrate it

[@xiiguardian]

Another thing to take into a punt is cost. It’s more expensive to go to Disney than universal. you can do a whole week at universal at great hotels with pools and 4 parks (universal, islands, epic, and volcano bay) for half the price of a Disney trip, people may choose that. It’s hard times but people still want to vacation. I think the value proposition maybe be a bigger factor here.

[@jeffgilbert5109]

Good point on the prediction that Universal attendance will be down in early 2025. I let my Universal pass expire back in February. I went to a Orlando Informer event at the end of 2022, then used my pass for a February trip in 2023 and 2024. I decided I had enough Universal for now, and would wait for Epic to open, and also to see how bad crowds are, how they handle lines, if they have a new pass that includes Epic Universe, etc. I feel like I might go in early 2026, but who knows. I was going to maybe do Universal Hollywood instead in 2025, but now that the Fast and Furious coaster might not open until 2026, I am not sure when I will get out that way.

[@TheFett007]

This is a great video with great research. However, on May 8, you said Disney was "delusional" for not being more concerned about Epic Universe. Now it seems you're saying the impact on their bottom line will be minimal outside of the first year Epic Universe opens. Which is it?

[@joshbtaylor1]

Great video. I appreciate the research that was put into this!

[@1jrhoden]

I love Universal and I'm excited about the new park but the hotel prices are increasing drastically. I go every September and I was comparing prices of September 2024 vs September 2025 and the hotel prices are almost double. Sadly making it unaffordable.

[@FortMiseryGaming]

It really depends how universal does the tickets/passes for epic the recent rumors are annual passes wont be sold for the first year.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Somebody else said that and it would be stupid of them to do that IMO.

[@LittleMaxie]

The last major theme park that opened was Legoland New York

[@tstidm4]

Comcast is not going to make the same mistakes as 1999. You’re going see ads on NFL playoff games on NBC. Every major market east of the Mississippi is going to be doing live shots with Al Roerke. There’s going tone a behind the scenes special and major NBC shows will be there (NBC Nightly News and Today). You’re going to see marketing everywhere. This is going to be bring 3 to 4 million new tourists.

[@GR8FLMD3AD]

2025: Amidst a large drop in attendance Iger and his yes-men ride Expedition Everest to witness the 100 million dollar Disco Yeti. *Cue the Curb your Enthusiasm song*

[@thewarrior2184]

Take a shot every time he says "year over year" in this video😂

[@MussoGames]

Some of my favorite rides are at Animal Kingdom and I do like shows they have too but… it’s not enough for me to go more than a few hours before I’m like “k, saw pandora, rode Everest, let’s go to another park”. Lol

[@chrisdominguez777]

Great video but Disney is gonna take a massive hit since Tianas and Epcot overhaul and animal kingdom stuff. People are already uninterested.

[@swarple]

I don’t want to go to Epic Universe during its first year, since that’s when crowds are highest and new issues will be encountered (rides breaking down, longer waits than the parks anticipated bc the capacity turns out to not be that great, etc). So I definitely like the idea of Disney trying to “win me over” by offering me discounts. Lol

[@ducktails1695]

Basically WDW is screwed...people are going to spend their week at UOR. There's nothing special about going to WDW today.

[@Edmundyu1995]

Although if people travel aboard or far out of state to Orlando go epic universe they’ll most likely also go to Disney as well so will boost their attendance

[@danielsolorzano8623]

People who legit think that Epic Universe is going to pull that many visitors from Disney is crazy. I am a Universal fan and yes during the first year we could see less people go to Disney but Disney will remain king. Universal has a stigma that its not kid friendly and that won't change with Epic just because Mario is their. Families will go to Disneyworld and skip Universal still but they will see an increase of course. If people have to chose they will skip Universal Orlando or Islands

[@VictoriousCatholicKindne-ty2we]

Animal Kingdom is my favorite park, I love the safari ride, lion king musical!

[@JoshuaMoore831]

I agree with some of your points for me I think Epic will 100% make all Universal parks strive. Back in the 90's and pretty much up until 2010 when they opened their first Harry Potter themed area, Disney were the top dogs. Even today when you say oh yeah I went to Orlando people say oh Disney Land? Disney has had a grasp on the Orlando theme park market. But again since Harry Potter came in and even more so when Hagrid's opened in 2019, Universal has slowly been climbing to take the top spot of Disney and Epic Universe will be the park to take the crown. A lot of people will also take into consideration of crowd levels when comparing Disney to Universal. Epic's crowd levels will be similar to Magic Kingdoms daily crowds. Disney is an absolute nightmare for crowds and truly can ruin the experience if Disney. Disney's Genie+ is an embarrassment especially when compared to Universal's express lanes. Unless you are truly a Disney fanatic there will not be many pro's to chose Disney over Universal once Epic opens. Disney themselves are taking a huge hit in their film and tv show production side of things where Universal have kept it simple. The only good thing for Disney is that they may see an investment due to Epic's launch. Also you said "people will need to appear from thin air" Well I will be one of those people and a lot of people will be travelling for this park launch and i'm sure a lot of people who haven't visited for a long time will be visiting Orlando again purely because of Epic.

[@alfredgiovetti]

When we go to Orlando we go to Harry Potter for two days. One of those days will be at each of the three parks with Harry Potter areas. We would go on a few of our other favorite rides which are quickly disappearing. Attendance dropped in Disney parks because Disney keeps closing iconic attractions and replacing them with Disney vacation club rooms or lounges, less quality attractions. Also Disney is removing “offensive” parts of their rides making them less enjoyable. Most guests were not offended.

[@Danno-in-Maine]

I’m looking forward to lower crowds at Studios and Islands so I can enjoy those parks while everyone hits Epic.

[@andreiaassis6003]

In order not to lose guests in the other parks Universal is going to sell 3 day 3 parks with only one day in Epic. In Brazil we'll have Explorer with 14 days but only one day in Epic. Sad but true....one day is not enough to do a whole new park

[@graffiti.777]

Well now we're hearing that universal will kinda force you to go to their other parks before epic universe

[@harrydunn8447]

Not watched the full video yet, just about 2 minutes in. I just wanna put my answer to the question you posed before you answer it I think guests will most likely not do Animal Kingdom out of the Disney + Universal parks. It may just be my experience, but it has the least to offer the average guest I'm very lucky to have gone to the parks numerous times with my family. Whenever we go, we tend to spend the least amount of time in that park. We're British so we value AC when available lol, so we automatically aren't the biggest fans of a park with mostly outdoor activities and smaller buildings. It's still a very beautiful park though, don't get me wrong Not to mention with Dinoland closing soon, it'll probably have the least amount of stuff to do compared to the other Disney parks and Universal

[@kamelot511]

great video

[@todayisanewday7]

God bless! Cant wait for this park!

[@SpaceShot]

I'm born and raised in Anaheim. The Disneyland resort will always be home. I know you tried to be fair about DCA's opening, but it's not comparable. DCA previews were underwhelming. There was nothing being previewed that made you feel like you had to go, and consequently the locals stayed home. Now that we have perspective, Soarin Over California and California Screamin were good. And one of those is basically mothballed for no reason. Epic Universe looks like a relatively complete park... with intentional room to grow. They aren't following the Disney tradition of opening a quarter park and building it over twenty five years. Epic Universe is giving off "must-see" vibes. As I'm hearing about ride systems I am a bit concerned about a few rides adding to the Universal Screens criticism, but that may be premature.

[@smokinalliansmokinallben]

Universal, if Disney opened a new park, would you win the battle? If Disney opened a new park, it might spark some trouble for me. But would you lose? Nah I'd win. -Universal Orlando

[@aberrantube]

Are you not counting Legoland Florida as a new Orlando park between IOA and EU because it was a retheme of Cypress Gardens or because it's in Kissimmee?

[@bigtimegamer56]

Legoland is not it Kissimmee

[@Matthew-dd6kp]

Legoland is between orlando and Tampa not in Orlando...

[@lucastheguy4452]

I subscribed for the 1 fish 2 fish ride video that you promised in the comment section of a prior video. Looking forward to that.

[@TheParkitect]

I can imagine a huge plot twist. The only thing UNIVERSAL should fear is that Disney buys their IPs like Marvel and Simpsons already. Disney can sneakily buy Potter, Mario, and DreamWorks.

[@sssspider]

It ain’t the 2010s anymore, current year Disney wishes it had the money to throw buying up every IP under the sun.

[@DapperIndividual]

I doubt Disney has enough capital to purchase Nintendo or Harry Potter. Not to mention Disney is still bleeding money from buying 20th Century Fox.

[@krisbarlow4552]

Disney can't buy marvel unless universal wants them to, they have that IP east of the Mississippi in perpetuity. Simpsons? Aging IP I doubt universal is concerned with losing in 2028. And Harry potter?? Haha, no way would jk allow that, disney was approached first by her and they wanted full control of the IP in their park and she said nope and headed to universal. I think a positive for any of the parks is a positive for guests, but disney won't be the leader anymore. Due to Disney's hard core fan base, they will be in direct competition for the first time. Disney is banking on their loyal fan base to keep them ahead without putting in any effort which eventually will start to show in their numbers, especially with universal putting in more attractions for young kids.

[@ktm6612]

2 things: -Comcast, the parent company of Universal is the sole owner of Dreamworks since 2016, and they are not willing to sell it ti Disney. -Disney is suffering from a big crisis since the pandemic, a crisis that they've not recovered yet so they can't buy their competition as easy as they were in the late 2000s and the 2010s

[@TheParkitect]

@@ktm6612 Oh yeah I forget about Comcast but I think disney is still on a roll with buying stuff. They just recently bought some of Epic Games and Fortnite.

[@44bthknuckles]

comcast announced rumored park for universal studios hollywoods second gate.

[@DomoTF]

I've already made the decision to drop disney world on my vacation. I was going to tac it on for galaxies edge, but after they announced epic universe there just isn't a good enough reason for me now. There is just far more to do at universal that interests me compared to disney. All disney has is star wars. Universal has harry potter, mario, jurassic park, universal monsters and more. Not to mention universal is usually cheaper and offer far better deals on resorts. Far nicer resorts may I add. So for me it's just a no brainer anymore.

[@kc3d777]

free fast passes for staying at the Universal on site resorts has always been the winning factor for our family. they are all so premium and such nice resorts plus you get unlimited fast passes for everyone. it really makes it feel worth it. Honestly the resorts aren't talked about enough for how much better the premium options are at Universal for the price. Usually you can find them for under 400 a night and they all have great transportation to the parks too.

[@briantoogood8928]

It’s too bad Universal didn’t plan/time major new rides in their existing parks to open in 2025 too. That would have really ensured increased attendance across the board.

[@hunt6811]

I would say the number visitors all the universal parks get will be similar numbers. I just need clarification is this just 6 million unique or just 6 million tickets scanned?

[@hunt6811]

I did grow up in the area and had passes for all the Orlando area parks, wouldn’t trade those memories for the money I’d get back if I didn’t do it.

[@TKThemeParkReviewer]

Umm I think mentioning last major theme park to open in the us as DCA is incorrect. If you focus on Orlando alone I agree but just in Florida alone Legoland was the newest theme park in Florida alone. Also I am sure Legoland California opened in the 2000's

[@ProfessionalFloridian]

When I think of Epic Universe opening I think of the Kendrick and Drake beef

[@matthewwhite9596]

What will Lego land do?

[@Colonel_Kitty]

What if Disney is waiting to open new experiences until after Epic Universe opens? Guests will pick a new park over a new ride/land. Disney will open their expansions and such when Universal isn't adding anything that would draw crowds away. Building a new park costs more than an expansion, but both things get people through the gate.

[@GR8FLMD3AD]

Universal’s got nothing on Communicore Cafeteria

[@emielizabeth3666]

Good job Universal

[@kauanrodrigues207]

Eu tenho certeza que com a abertura do universal épico os parques da Disney provavelmente não perderam muito publico talvez ficaram até estáveis , agora os parques da própria universal provavelmente vai ser uma esterilização de visitantes vai perder uns 600 mil visitantes por aí, vai ficar bem tranquilo que visitar qualquer uns dos dois parques por meses talvez até uns 2 anos, é o universo épico acho que vai ser épico mesmo deverá passar das expectativas que visitação e provavelmente vai ser o segundo parque mais visitado de Orlando se não no primeiro ano de abertura talvez um ano ou dois anos depois

[@brianwaltonjr5810]

I wonder how SeaWorld Orlando attendance was affected?

[@sha2596]

Your assumption that people are going to drop parks for EU is weird. I plan to still do my Disney Trips, and add a trip for EU. No real interest in visiting the other Universal parks, especially if the tickets will be separate. In future i would definitely just add a few days to my Disney trip and go to EU for 1-2 days.

[@joeross6540]

no one booked their trip just to see animal kingdom. They went to animal kingdom when they were already planning to go to disney. People are booking trips just for epic universe. You can't compare the two at all.

[@georgepratt3721]

Disney may be giving away free water parks but no Disney magic and expensive Disney Genie they are terribly expensive

[@4thwallstudios]

Another day goes by without the one fish two fish red fish blue fish video :(

[@Art_V101]

How did MGM drop in 1999,given RnRC opened that year

[@Djxander23]

Here are my predictions that I hope I can come back in 2026 and see how I faired… Epic universe brings in 10 million guests its first year Universal drops 3% yoy Islands of adventure drops 7% yoy SeaWorld sells or begins exploration of selling if not declares bankruptcy Disney takes a small hit thanks to their efforts of perks at hotels and the amount of rooms they have. I’d say overall they get a 9% decrease in attendance overall with Epcot and Animal Kingdom suffering the most. Universal announces replacement of rip ride rock-it along with new hotel and lost continent replacement. I think Epic announces a kids Halloween event and Christmas season event in 2026-2027 and this will affect Disney quite a bit. 2028 Universal announce Pokémon further threatening Disney. Mid 2028 Disney announces new gate in an effort to stay relevant. Let’s see how this plays out.

[@Yukosan13]

If I make plans for epic universe then I'll probably just make it a Universal Studios trip and stay with their hotesl.. I'll be lucky if I have the cash to add disney world 😅 it's just getting too expensive And though I don't see Universal giving much of a discount on park tickets.. I do see a hotels discount 👀 possibly happening.. but with older discount resorts so they don't lose money to something like the Dury inn.. because they have more hotels in the Universal areas than with Disney 😅.. Disney world got lucky by making their areas more exclusive to themselves (the "disney" bubble)

[@44bthknuckles]

hollwoods next after orlando attractions iideas.

[@OakForestBoys]

Solid vid man

[@marcuswelby921]

why don't you do a video about Disney opening up a 5th that has gotten approval and will be happening???????????

[@cookingwithhistory6694]

Universal will loose some guests as they increase in price. They were seen as a bargain even just a few years ago. Now the daily tixket price is often at or above Disney.

[@mattgotgame5054]

Early gang wya

[@scarlettlucindy]

Goodbye I’m going back to 1999 to visit mgm studios