How YouTube Podcasts Predicted the 2024 Election

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Colin and Samir

Colin and Samir

Күн бұрын

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@eyezak_m
@eyezak_m Ай бұрын
I think it was crazy how little Harris did podcasts. Especially Joe Rogan. That was a big mistake on their part
@thacoolest13
@thacoolest13 Ай бұрын
She did go on podcasts. It's just that most of her appearances have been extremely bad showings. I think she was afraid to do more showings, so she left it to the media to bat for her... and they did tbf
@just_mdd4
@just_mdd4 Ай бұрын
Joe Rogan said that she wanted him to go to her for just an hour, lol.
@You-dm2eh
@You-dm2eh Ай бұрын
@@thacoolest13agreed
@biggestbubba
@biggestbubba Ай бұрын
i dont think she would be able to make coherent sentences for that long...
@nimai7074
@nimai7074 Ай бұрын
@@thacoolest13 I mean Trump also had a lot of mishaps in podcasts, he just did so many of them that they were quickly forgotten
@JordenTually
@JordenTually Ай бұрын
Kamala denied Rogan because her team couldn't control the environment where it seemed like Trump didn't care where the podcast took place! Very interesting insights as always guys.
@Soulful_Oatmilk
@Soulful_Oatmilk Ай бұрын
Her team was dumb AF for not putting Walz on there. He's excellent just talking to regular ass people or uninformed voters, but instead they have him talking to main media outlets and tucking him in the back talking to constituents. There's a time for that, but they needed to counter with that and put Kamala on the mainstream media. Horrible strategy. Horribly dated. Horribly tone deaf. This isn't talking about even on their dog shit status quo policies either.
@nightowl9519
@nightowl9519 Ай бұрын
​@@Soulful_OatmilkBoth were terrible candidates with terrible platforms. The longer the Dems deny this, they will continue to lose.
@benbleazard595
@benbleazard595 Ай бұрын
@@Soulful_OatmilkI think Walz would have done very bad on a long form interview. He is after all a self described knuckle head
@Soulful_Oatmilk
@Soulful_Oatmilk Ай бұрын
@benbleazard595 there's a "more perfect union" video of him just chatting up union workers and he has so much charm. I would disagree, since a lot of these podcasts, especially Joe's are really casual.
@HotLeafJuicer
@HotLeafJuicer Ай бұрын
You just made that up, as you guys usually do. But it was definitely an L that she didn't go on that one.
@samsaek666
@samsaek666 Ай бұрын
Kamala spent over a BILLION dollars on ads but when offered to go on Rogan for FREE she danced around it. Anyone can charm Rogan, it’s just about having a convo
@EternalKhann
@EternalKhann Ай бұрын
I think her team wanted her to be in safe spaces only with questions / topics agreed upon beforehand. Of course that's a no-no in this day and age where authenticity is key in being popular. Her team probably feared she would stumble on her own words or would otherwise expose herself in a way that could be exploited by the other side. Their angle was "Harris is the no-controversy candidate in this race, therefore we only need to focus on fear mongering against Trump whist keeping her from bloopers and meme material". Trump had bloopers and memes all around him meanwhile and still won. If 2016 didn't teach anybody, 2024 definitely should be a lesson in the fact that we're in a new age where credentials and wealthy donors alone won't bring you the victory you think is guaranteed.
@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078
@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078 Ай бұрын
well put
@OhWellWhatTheHell1
@OhWellWhatTheHell1 Ай бұрын
I don't think you're being entirely real there, Joe Rogan would have been a highly adversarial platform for her in a way that it wasn't for Trump. I agree she still should have done it, but she would have to have been in attack mode for like 3 hours straight
@adeshkantha7034
@adeshkantha7034 Ай бұрын
​​@@OhWellWhatTheHell1have you even watched any of his podcasts. He doesn't grill anybody. He'd probably just let her talk
@biglee13m
@biglee13m Ай бұрын
@@EternalKhann I think everyone knew Trump was crazy.. but they knew him but didn't know Kamala. She was just someone other than Biden, you know how inconsequential and shadowy VPs are. MAGAts are going to Trump no matter what. Independents voted for someone familiar.
@grizzzy
@grizzzy Ай бұрын
Long form unedited interviews create authenticy, and allow the viewer to make up their own mind
@demigreen6495
@demigreen6495 Ай бұрын
Ding ding ding, it’s about authenticity, and one person wasn’t authentic.
@penguinwithwifi
@penguinwithwifi Ай бұрын
And in 4 years the Republicans will run JD Vance, the guy who comes off very authentic & likable and already has been on Rogan & Theo Vonn, etc.
@eazeyt1759
@eazeyt1759 Ай бұрын
@@penguinwithwifinothing says authenticity like lying constantly …
@kevinlopes746
@kevinlopes746 Ай бұрын
I will say this was a facet of the old postwar media in having longform interviews with politicians(Firing Line with Buckley, Face the Nation). There's a bunch of archive videos of guys from across the political spectrum from George Wallace and Lester Maddox to RFK and Hubert Humphrey being interviewed for like an hour on some important topic.
@moosemush
@moosemush Ай бұрын
Long form unedited interviews create authenticity but are also not usually meant to challenge or provoke any disagreement, especially considering the bias of the interviewer. Joe Rogan, Flagrant, Theo Von etc. are NOT journalists and they do not question, challenge, or fact-check politicians in a way that is often necessary, but they show a different perspective which is often needed. Kamala (and Walz!) absolutely should have done more podcast appearances than they did (Joe Rogan, Marc Maron, etc.) but it does make me sad that these long-form interviews are sometimes the only things helping people decide an election when they are not usually about policy or plan, usually more for life stories and some joking around.
@troyjannn
@troyjannn Ай бұрын
Word on the street is his son Barron was the master mind behind it. Perfect age to understand the current media landscape and direct his dad to appear in the correct places at the perfect times.
@truthteller3024
@truthteller3024 Ай бұрын
I'm trying to move to the US and become a citizen just to vote for his presidency in due course
@zpdrsn6315
@zpdrsn6315 Ай бұрын
@@truthteller3024good luck man it takes patience and perseverance but you can do it!
@elliot.1030
@elliot.1030 Ай бұрын
@@truthteller3024you wanna vote for a kid because his father is president? 😂😂 you want trump to be king so bad 😂
@truthteller3024
@truthteller3024 Ай бұрын
@@elliot.1030 Trump is the king already baby ;)
@rsombrero97
@rsombrero97 Ай бұрын
@@elliot.1030 I mean, he still won and have the popular votes to back that up lol.. I love the cope
@alnnenndennwieie
@alnnenndennwieie Ай бұрын
Also Vivek's campaign was absolute perfection, like almost nobody knew him and in weeks he was everywhere.
@spht9ng
@spht9ng Ай бұрын
he's like a Trump simp variant of Andrew Yang
@alnnenndennwieie
@alnnenndennwieie Ай бұрын
@ yeah but im just saying the campaign was awesome regardless
@wallingnaga6563
@wallingnaga6563 Ай бұрын
@@alnnenndennwieietrue
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE Ай бұрын
People call trump stupid as if its a matter of obvious fact. Yet here we are where he has now twice pioneered a new campaign media format. 2016 was Twitter and 2024 was podcasts.
@Flyguy9
@Flyguy9 Ай бұрын
Different realities, you can literally watch the same opinion be confirmed over and over for years. Idk how we fix this
@regularity2556
@regularity2556 Ай бұрын
​@@Flyguy9 There is nothing to fix, if you want to win an election, get a better candidate and run a better campaign
@Flyguy9
@Flyguy9 Ай бұрын
@@regularity2556 it’s not just about winning an election, it’s people not being grounded in reality because of echo chambers
@_mark_3814
@_mark_3814 23 күн бұрын
You realize these “echo chamber” people are fans of literally Bernie sanders. Joe and Theo like Bernie lmao
@nathan890-n6l
@nathan890-n6l Ай бұрын
You should interview the campaign managers of each candidate. That would be fascinating since these campaigns were historically different from the past
@Mycomaker
@Mycomaker Ай бұрын
Yes please!
@Plainsburner
@Plainsburner Ай бұрын
In this case, Barron Trump is credited as the one who convinced his father to go on podcasts. Of course the idea would have been vetted by his team before actually taking action on it, so it would be interesting to hear the campaign side of it.
@joshmoxey.
@joshmoxey. Ай бұрын
@@PlainsburnerBarron Trump on Colin & Samir would make my mind explode LMAO. You are 100% right though, he was leading the charge on media and he put him in all the right places. An absolute specimen.
@Thatguyfromnm
@Thatguyfromnm Ай бұрын
​@@joshmoxey.We need to hear from barron trump
@gavin2391
@gavin2391 Ай бұрын
Susan Wilde would never, but I agree it would be cool to talk strategy!
@TheBucketListFamily
@TheBucketListFamily Ай бұрын
I was trying to explain this exact matter to my friends. This is all so spot on. You could feel it throughout the entire election. One side leaned into it and one side just dabbled and paid the price. Well said, Colin and Samir. Great video.
@12345678bobster
@12345678bobster Ай бұрын
It's missing a key factor though: Kamala could have leaned into it and done 30 podcasts if she wanted to. The truth of the matter is: she would get nowhere near the views, as she is boring, not authentic, not funny, substanceless and generally not an interesting person. Acting as if it would have made a difference if she would have went on more podcasts is just absurd. There's a reason the podcasts she did go on performed so badly.
@marigam
@marigam Ай бұрын
There was a moment toward the end where Kamala’s campaign switched up strategy and started saying that Trump is old and tired and is running away from the media. That fell so flat because I kept seeing Trump and Vance all over my youtube recommendations. I could not keep up with all their podcasts visits. These are hours long shows but CNN is trying to tell me they’re running away and hiding? Such a disconnect!
@frankschaefer8890
@frankschaefer8890 Ай бұрын
Agreed. The strategy to counter Kamala and co. calling him old was Trump going on a bunch of long form unfiltered media content.
@nightowl9519
@nightowl9519 Ай бұрын
There is a fundamental principle in politics, meet the voter where they are. One candidate did that, one didn't.
@johndawson6057
@johndawson6057 Ай бұрын
One candidate talked to voters while the other one talked down and at the voters.
@Zzyzzyx
@Zzyzzyx Ай бұрын
One candidate did that completely naturally, and the other candidate couldn't have done it if her life depended on it.
@longfellow_productions
@longfellow_productions Ай бұрын
I also love how this further pushes the fact that the American people have such an important roll in American politics. It’s not just something we watch it’s something we control and have a special input in. Like you can be a normal guy, grow a following on KZbin, make a podcast, and then all the sudden have a major impact on American politics. That’s crazy to me.
@SteveNatto
@SteveNatto Ай бұрын
Political campaigns should be watching this video cause this is an insanely good and informative breakdown of what happened
@randomguy7175
@randomguy7175 Ай бұрын
Let traditional politicians on both sides continue going to MSNBC and FOX news. Let them fail and wonder why ? Like dumb..
@willis4585
@willis4585 Ай бұрын
Trump knew traditional media would not win him the election because almost ALL legacy media is negative leaning on trump. He circumvented needing legacy media for legacy media to HAVE to talk about what he was saying on all these podcasts because he was breaking news and policies even on these podcasts or expanding the ideas. This was a masterclass by trump and his campaign team/barron
@eazeyt1759
@eazeyt1759 Ай бұрын
Because legacy media doesn’t just let him sit there and lie. He doesn’t do interviews with real journalists or news organizations. He just goes on outlets that are already pro trump or where he knows that he’s not going to get challenged. He couldn’t handle real interviews.
@dylanbaer
@dylanbaer Ай бұрын
7 minutes in and still can't tell which bias. Excellent video
@bhagbir510
@bhagbir510 Ай бұрын
Colin called trumps podcasts infamous ones 🤣
@radfoo72
@radfoo72 Ай бұрын
Aside from using their descriptive choice of words "Fever Dream". I didn't feel that way, it was thrilling!
@You-dm2eh
@You-dm2eh Ай бұрын
As it should be
@donniedewitt9878
@donniedewitt9878 Ай бұрын
Colin is clearly anti Trump look at 18:30 it’s like he doesn’t know that the entire mainstream media pushes back against Trump
@johnjhcoyle
@johnjhcoyle Ай бұрын
Based on where they live, where they’re from, and other guests/conversations they’ve had I think they lean left. But they definitely try and be as neutral as possible. They don’t seem to be interested in being political commentators. Or commentators that appeal to one side of the political spectrum.
@Nomgoose
@Nomgoose Ай бұрын
I feel so validated by this. I was just explaining how important streamers and youtubers were to this election, especially for young male voters, and that Colin and Samir made a whole episode about it makes me feel like I wasn't crazy.
@pakistangenzpd
@pakistangenzpd Ай бұрын
How's the mood in America currently? Are you guys cohesive on this or people are still divided?
@Henry12151
@Henry12151 Ай бұрын
@@pakistangenzpd There is still and will always be incredible division over this. Not so much in public, but social media is dominated by democrats upset over their loss.
@manujgoyal
@manujgoyal Ай бұрын
Wow this episode made me respect you guys a lot. Taking a tricky topic like politics and breaking it down so logically and sharing a perspective and influencer of the election that no traditional media has reported on is massive. Huge huge respect and great episode
@SageAwakens
@SageAwakens Ай бұрын
Don't forget, Vivek was the trailblazer for this strategy. And he still holds the record for the most podcast visits in a year for a republican candidate. Legend.
@pakistangenzpd
@pakistangenzpd Ай бұрын
Well does he have a sway in traditional republicans? He was questioned for his faith continuously and even demonised I don't think he played a part in trump's winning
@SageAwakens
@SageAwakens Ай бұрын
@iron982 if the strategy is to win the support of traditional republicans, then it would basically be preaching to the choir. Vivek was speaking to millennials, the next generation which he had a strong influence on. Trump could not have won without the youth vote and Vivek was instrumental in making this happen.
@TimG-lq1pe
@TimG-lq1pe Ай бұрын
​@@pakistangenzpd 'traditional republicans'.... They ain't in power. RFK, Tulsi Gabard, Elon musk and Donald trump, they're the ones with the political capital right now, they're the king makers.
@DivinesLegacy
@DivinesLegacy Ай бұрын
Republicans politicians are simply more understanding of what’s new. You rarely see democrats doing podcasts because they are so disconnected. That’s why gen z is know becoming right wing. Id even be confident say the majority of 21 year olds would probably vote red.
@mob3p1c
@mob3p1c Ай бұрын
+ I believe Vivek will constantly be doing his TRUTH Pod throughout Trump's second term. If the rumors are true and he really becomes Secratary of State, America might just get the first SoS to have a Pod! We live in wild times...
@zachmueller2912
@zachmueller2912 Ай бұрын
Lets not forget RFK, who was polling at nearly 20% for awhile, and had the MAJORITY in people 18-39 in polls. Once he threw his support for Trump, I knew he had won.
@rhettshanley8712
@rhettshanley8712 28 күн бұрын
I think had he stayed it he probably would’ve gotten about 10% of the vote
@thebotalife
@thebotalife Ай бұрын
One campaign used influencers to speak on their behalf (TikTok specifically) and one campaign went to a community to speak directly to.
@animula6908
@animula6908 Ай бұрын
I hadn’t thought of it in those terms, but you’re right.
@johndawson6057
@johndawson6057 Ай бұрын
This is so well put, thanks.
@LifeOfKirstie
@LifeOfKirstie Ай бұрын
So good!
@ForeverFashionGirl21
@ForeverFashionGirl21 Ай бұрын
Charlie Kirk went to college campuses and would answer questions from students. He played a huge role that needs to be talked about
@swag31556
@swag31556 16 күн бұрын
That was true in 2016 when he would go viral for a good response to an extremely dumb question. but he and all the other right wing personalities (shapiro and crowder) started to become so mainstream that they fell off the same way the mainstream television networks did.
@fknight
@fknight Ай бұрын
I’ve been following y’all’s coverage of the part the creator economy played in this election cycle via your newsletter, and let me just say, you and your team have covered it beautifully. No fluff to try to put one candidate up. No nonsense to try to put a candidate down. Just purely analyzing what happens and sharing that information. Very well done!
@alexmaklai
@alexmaklai Ай бұрын
When I saw Trump going to the podcasts, I finally got excited for the election because I understood how much Social Media will affect the election this time. Great discussion boys.
@LifeOfKirstie
@LifeOfKirstie Ай бұрын
Agreed 1000%
@SpencerCornelia
@SpencerCornelia Ай бұрын
an even better metric would be adding in all of the views from the clips and shorts from Trump's appearances on the podcasts. too tedious of a task, but would give us a more clearer picture. Very few people cared about Kamala this election and the viewing numbers show that. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump had 1B+ views collectively across all socials from his podcast appearances.
@notjustheadlinesmedia
@notjustheadlinesmedia Ай бұрын
Hey so I’m 19 years old and this year I started my own podcast called Not Just Headlines where I interviewed local politicians in North Carolina running for office before the bigger candidates started to go on these podcasts so everything you were saying was my original purpose. Long form content, a new generation of media, etc.
@bentleybuilds
@bentleybuilds Ай бұрын
I love the shift where podcasts are becoming more valuable and more trusted than mainstream media.
@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078
@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078 Ай бұрын
🌎🧑🏻‍🚀🔫👨🏻‍🚀
@joshmoxey.
@joshmoxey. Ай бұрын
As they should be! More independent voices that allow the average person to listen to and evaluate what’s true on their own is always superior to a leveraged and compromised media that boot licks the establishment, big pharma, certain parties, etc. (across the political spectrum). Also why X is so goated too.
@eazeyt1759
@eazeyt1759 Ай бұрын
That’s not good, at least mainstream media outlets have rules and codes of conduct/ethics.
@joshmoxey.
@joshmoxey. Ай бұрын
@@eazeyt1759 you are an absolute establishment bootlicker for this omg hahahaha. Lying non-stop across the political spectrum is ethical?
@thetitanofwallstreet7839
@thetitanofwallstreet7839 Ай бұрын
@@eazeyt1759 MSNBC fired Phil Donahue becuase he spoke out against the Iraq war. The station was owned by GE and was a major defense contractor at the time. That doesn't sound ethical at all.
@Pop_Culture_Podcast
@Pop_Culture_Podcast Ай бұрын
Regarding celebrity endorsements: I think there is a difference between actors and podcasters or even musicians. Actors literal job is to pretend to be someone else. Podcasters and KZbinrs (for the most part, maybe) got famous for being themselves. Therefore, I feel the Hollywood celebrity endorsements holds much much less weight than someone who is authentically themselves
@Pop_Culture_Podcast
@Pop_Culture_Podcast Ай бұрын
PS-this is the first video I’ve seen of you guys. Well done!
@pakistangenzpd
@pakistangenzpd Ай бұрын
Plus podcast isn't just an interview It is deep dive into someone's mind Nobody can continuously pretend for 3 hours and get. Away with it They will eventually break Roegan does it better than lots of other new age podcastera By live streaming it Not editing it and.most importantly willingness to look like a fool
@DanSantana10
@DanSantana10 Ай бұрын
The best use of new media, imo is the Mexican president who did a live press conference on KZbin every morning. The new president is continuing this, and it's extremely informative
@iwork4food
@iwork4food Ай бұрын
Didn’t FDR do this over the radio in the 30s and 40s?
@regularity2556
@regularity2556 Ай бұрын
Every morning. Seriously. Don't they have anything to do😅
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 23 күн бұрын
@@regularity2556 I mean, giving a press conference for the public (You know... the people who you acctually work for) sounds like a pretty high priority. More politicians should do this
@goat7262
@goat7262 Ай бұрын
This just highlights the massive shift from traditional/legacy media to new forms like KZbin and podcasting
@OvieObaro
@OvieObaro Ай бұрын
I appreciate the way you guys attempt to have an unbiased perspective. Not all creators are able to do this and still make an informative and interesting video
@mrjadelee
@mrjadelee Ай бұрын
Harris not doing Joe Rogan podcast was huge
@xenon6947
@xenon6947 Ай бұрын
Harris knew what Joe Rogan did to Sanjay Gupta.
@joe-tatothepotatobiden47
@joe-tatothepotatobiden47 17 күн бұрын
​@@xenon6947Joe had a personal stake in that podcast though. He was smeared all over cnn. Joe usually just has calm conversations. Look at the Fetterman podcast, the Tulsi podcast (when she was still with the democrat party), the Bernie podcast, etc. He hardly ever gets riled up and he gets riled up against conservatives too like Candace Owens or Matt Walsh. He even grilled Ben Shapiro pretty hard on religion.
@TNTspaz
@TNTspaz Ай бұрын
Something to keep on mind as well. Trump campaigned like a machine. His staff were worried about him taking 30 extra minutes on podcasts cause his schedule was just that booked. Not because they were trying to control things or only do certain segments
@penguinwithwifi
@penguinwithwifi Ай бұрын
Exactly. Conversely, Harris moved like a sloth.
@alexandrahayesrobinson
@alexandrahayesrobinson Ай бұрын
love the barbie analogy, colin. still listening but this is such a great episode, thanks for making it!
@storyxmonstrrr
@storyxmonstrrr Ай бұрын
weird mental image, but perfect metaphor
@temiudoh
@temiudoh Ай бұрын
@@storyxmonstrrr no seriously, once the pics of him at Mcdonalds and being a garbageman showed up i fully understood😭
@dvdaltizer
@dvdaltizer Ай бұрын
i’ve watched so many political content over the last few months and nobody has talked about any of this. Hope this takes off. Great takes
@PhilipLivdan
@PhilipLivdan Ай бұрын
The most revealing insight here isn't just about podcasts vs traditional media - it's about the death of soundbites. When Trump sits with Theo Von for 3 hours or Rogan for 3.5, there's no 'gotcha' moment that can define the conversation. The length itself IS the message. You can edit a 5-minute TV interview into oblivion, but you can't edit authenticity spread across hours of raw footage. We're witnessing the end of the 'carefully curated politician' era. Think about it: FDR mastered radio because he understood intimacy. JFK mastered TV because he understood image. Obama mastered social media because he understood virality. Trump is mastering long-form because he understands that in 2024, familiarity beats polish.
@swag31556
@swag31556 16 күн бұрын
if obama was the master of social media, trump is its god
@mike_abramyan
@mike_abramyan Ай бұрын
The 60 minutes edit scandal highlights why viewers crave uninterrupted long form conversations.
@robertmariano
@robertmariano Ай бұрын
I didn't want to hear anymore post-election analysis. Then I saw Colin and Samir, I clicked, I watched and am glad that I did. With regard to podcasts, I believe that there was more authenticity on these podcasts, (even if they were friendlier). Plus, the newer formats are more decentralized compared to legacy media.
@mrrational2046
@mrrational2046 Ай бұрын
JD Vance literally did a hour long podcast with the New York Times and wiped the floor
@conoreliot7439
@conoreliot7439 Ай бұрын
Vance being a great pick who could do the traditional media that Trump can’t was an underrated choice
@TheNheg66
@TheNheg66 Ай бұрын
I love how the campaign completely disarmed the legacy smear machine by mainly sending JD to the smaller adversarial podcasts
@u13erfitz
@u13erfitz Ай бұрын
@@TheNheg66yeah it’s the exact opposite of how it is usually done. Usually the president is the polished one and the vp is a junkyard dog. They let Trump be the Junkyard dog and Vance be the polished one.
@dialmstyle
@dialmstyle Ай бұрын
Celebrity endorsements were off putting. Unrelatable to us regular degulars.
@RobertoBlake
@RobertoBlake Ай бұрын
Solid analysis. Independent media is the future. Traditional media is fading right before our very eyes.
@zacharyhall2012
@zacharyhall2012 Ай бұрын
60 minutes was adversarial? The ones who edited her response to be favorable?
@pablogallegoGNZ
@pablogallegoGNZ Ай бұрын
This video hit the nail on the coffin on everything that has been going down! What a vide guys!
@Wildest_Wahoo
@Wildest_Wahoo Ай бұрын
Barron deserves all the credit.
@DaanyAC
@DaanyAC Ай бұрын
People are going to be writing case studies on this media strategy
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 Ай бұрын
They are already being written as we speak
@B-RaDD
@B-RaDD Ай бұрын
Something that you migbt want to add specifically for trump hes that he has had YEARS AND YEARS of speaking on record. Video/audio so he is very comfortable and relaxed when speaking in front of a camera to be broadcasted.
@johndawson6057
@johndawson6057 Ай бұрын
You'd think being the second in charge of the most powerful country on earth that ho3 would've had some media skills😂 Let's Go Brandon😂😂😂
@regularity2556
@regularity2556 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂​@@johndawson6057
@ericlane3256
@ericlane3256 8 күн бұрын
The younger generation doesn't watch ads anymore. I saw both Trump and Harris ads and skipped both. Just didn't matter to me, but I always watched the podcasts and interviews both candidates did.
@DEMEMZEA
@DEMEMZEA 7 күн бұрын
yes, bc one of those you chose to see.
@LandonLovette
@LandonLovette Ай бұрын
Let’s not forget that Reagan was an established film icon and made many tv appearances during his tenure as governor of California. Generations of people already knew him before he ran for president.
@imacyclepath440
@imacyclepath440 24 күн бұрын
Trump didn’t do adversarial media?! Are you guys nuts? He did plenty of press conferences and took questions from reporters which Kamala basically hid from. He even went in and sat down for a long form panel at National Association of Black Journalists. It was extremely adversarial and he didn’t hold back. He didn’t placate or pander like Kamala did. Kamala was invited to that as well by the way and she didn’t show up.
@jakehall7124
@jakehall7124 Ай бұрын
How do you forget about the Shawn Ryan Podcast? 4,000,000 Views.
@AirBudProMax
@AirBudProMax 5 күн бұрын
Holy shit. Thank you for talking about this like normal people.
@no_alias_for_me
@no_alias_for_me Ай бұрын
The whole Republican front row went on various podcasts which reeled in almost 1 billion views in total. Vivek, Tulsi, Vance, etc..
@RobertoBlake
@RobertoBlake Ай бұрын
Fair point actually. The compound effect of the entire team likely played a role
@ElizaTan
@ElizaTan Ай бұрын
This is the most culturally relevant piece of content I’ve seen as of late. Thank you.
@JakeJohanson12
@JakeJohanson12 Ай бұрын
I argue the podcasts Kamala did were friendly and "safe spaces". You can't count 60 minutes, or Brett Bair as podcasts, those were media interviews were she was intentionally asked tough questions because she was relatively new to the race and people needed to know her stances on tough topics. Trump has already done all those sorts of interviews in past years and this election cycle. The Black Journalist conference comes to mind.
@dark_winter8238
@dark_winter8238 Ай бұрын
But she was not really asked tough questions. The fact she never really had to address Biden being kicked off the ticket is insane.
@d818581dd
@d818581dd Ай бұрын
The podcasts Trump did where predominantly right leaning safe spaces.
@JakeJohanson12
@JakeJohanson12 Ай бұрын
@@d818581dd I agree, the podcasts Kamala did were left leaning.
@tylerdurden3618
@tylerdurden3618 Ай бұрын
Right the left put all their eggs into their own echo chamber lol
@moosemush
@moosemush Ай бұрын
do you think Trump or his team made any podcast appearances which were not “safe spaces?”
@williamkinzer6012
@williamkinzer6012 Ай бұрын
Gents, this was so well done. I was just having this conversation with one of my buddies recently and I think you guys hit the nail in the head. This is very well thought out well articulated, wise and unbiased. Kudos and well done gents.
@theobrominator
@theobrominator Ай бұрын
New Media needs to be adopted as you need to meet people where they’re at. As the internet has disrupted newspapers and streaming has disrupted cable - KZbin has become an entertainment and current events juggernaut.
@tallglass
@tallglass Ай бұрын
You guys spoke to the length of these videos. I think this new generation understands that when a KZbin video is short they're missing something. Look at how successful these 8 your video essays are. Gen-Z can work the KZbin controls. So they'd rather have you give them everything, including the kitchen sink, and have them "edit it" themselves. That also speaks to the criticism that the 60 minutes interview got for being heavily edited. People are smarter about how media works in 2024 more than ever
@carlosf3421
@carlosf3421 Ай бұрын
Kamala isn’t podcast worthy. You can’t fake and laugh your way through a 3 hour sit down podcast.
@matthewdaub
@matthewdaub 25 күн бұрын
8:26 this was another problem with kamala vs trump on podcast. Trumps werent interviews, they were conversations and he treated them as such. Kamala only did interviews.
@jointhefun4
@jointhefun4 Ай бұрын
Samir has that disney prince hair
@RuslanKD
@RuslanKD Ай бұрын
Well we know who Colin voted for 😂😂😂
@ryanpasley3987
@ryanpasley3987 Ай бұрын
For real 😂. Love your channel man, when you going to get on this podcast? 👀
@SuperMustache555
@SuperMustache555 Ай бұрын
Really?
@johnapple3471
@johnapple3471 Ай бұрын
Trump's strategy was so effective, it nearly flipped California red! 🤣
@cooliipie
@cooliipie Ай бұрын
And California
@casey2782
@casey2782 Ай бұрын
There's no way you can say that so confidently when only ~75% of the vote has been counted
@tylerclark5086
@tylerclark5086 Ай бұрын
@@casey2782you’re right. I voted Trump but he was no where close to flipping Cali. Just about every state moved right but there are still SEVERAL safe blue states. I was more shocked how close we got to flipping NJ
@DrAmber2004
@DrAmber2004 Ай бұрын
@@tylerclark5086it’s not “close” to flipping red but it’s the most close to flipping red out of the blue states. Which is insane.
@MakeEverything
@MakeEverything Ай бұрын
What a time to be alive!
@narinpratap8790
@narinpratap8790 Ай бұрын
Amazing analysis. Culture plays such a central role and it's being redefined every single day - but only one campaign was perceptive enough to lean in to the conversations happening on modern media platforms. While the other implicitly came across as snobbish or "holier-than-thou" by sticking with the controlled environments of legacy media.
@regularity2556
@regularity2556 Ай бұрын
I love how you guys talk to each other, very respectful and considerate
@dj_lantn
@dj_lantn Ай бұрын
They're not "putting him" on podcasts. Trump goes where he wants to
@TimG-lq1pe
@TimG-lq1pe Ай бұрын
Yea, I think they're missing that key aspect of Trump.
@talglikman7276
@talglikman7276 Ай бұрын
Even if you remove the Joe Rogan podcast (approximately 47 million on election day) he still averages out for a higher view count PER podcast than Harris's total. It wasn't even close.
@austincooper7282
@austincooper7282 Ай бұрын
I’m sorry, but 60 minutes was not adversarial. They literally got caught editing out bad answers to help her!
@wed6790
@wed6790 Күн бұрын
KZbin knew how powerful these podcasts were. That’s why they censored Joe Rogans
@Andrewpiter
@Andrewpiter Ай бұрын
Amazingly objective analysis. Thank you both for this
@brianpia9185
@brianpia9185 Ай бұрын
Very insightful show about the 2024 election and the new media landscape of podcasts. Well done.
@EngineeringAfterHours
@EngineeringAfterHours Ай бұрын
19:36 podcasts worked specifically because they aren't adversarial. The MSM failed because it is adversarial and overly partisan. The absolute last thing we need is more combativeness in these interviews.
@picassawi5578
@picassawi5578 Ай бұрын
It's all about authenticity. You can't pretend for 3 hours. Rogan wouldn't be hostile to her, but he would dig into some issues and that wasn't convenient. With Trump it's WYSIWYG. He says crazy stuff, he's an enterntainer, he draws attention and is actually a pretty funny guy. The Democrats must adapt, but they also need to rebrand and loose the crazies. They have a lot of work ahead to catch up cause with the new young blood in the republican party (JD, Vivek, Tulsi) they seem the more down to earth and "cooler" party which is absolutely insane.
@joehonest7074
@joehonest7074 Ай бұрын
You guys don’t realize Trump did the adversary video. Did you see him speak with the national black journalist association? When he went there and didn’t back down that’s when I knew who I was voting for.
@HonestAlsClips
@HonestAlsClips Ай бұрын
Awesome Channel 👍💯
@radfoo72
@radfoo72 Ай бұрын
It's comical that Kamala couldn't make time for The Joe Rogan podcast. EVERYONE KNOOOOWS that's a Huge platform yet she declined😂😂😂 Not saying it would have helped her much however failing to show up was DEFINITELY a detriment to her campaign and reputation!
@demigreen6495
@demigreen6495 Ай бұрын
She knows she’s not authentic enough to do that, unless she and her team can script everything
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 Ай бұрын
Her showing would have been a disaster
@Flyguy9
@Flyguy9 Ай бұрын
People say she couldn’t sit down for 3 hours, but I think the biggest reason was the second stipulation. Not allowed to edit. She would have fallen apart
@colbythom223
@colbythom223 3 күн бұрын
I love watching people trying to over analyze this situation. You all did it well here. Trump showed up. Say what you want about the ex and future president, but his campaign tactics are the best. He is a natural entertainer.. after he got shot he returned to the same stage he got shot on, and started his speech with “where was I?” That’s wild.
@Ryan-mq2mi
@Ryan-mq2mi Ай бұрын
Speaking of Jubilee and adversarial, you guys also seem to forget that Trump went to that black journalists live audience thing in Chicago. And they were not very welcoming. You handle that extremely well, and it was him against everyone.
@ericandre9574
@ericandre9574 22 күн бұрын
DNC should have gone on the talk tuah podcast. This was the fatal flaw
@somebodyandthem
@somebodyandthem Ай бұрын
19:11 trump went to a few events where he challenged, the black writers events, libertarians event, and the Bloomberg event. I feel like the yellow guy didn’t watch much trump stuff going into this show
@K05H
@K05H Ай бұрын
It is always this way.
@brianirwin5296
@brianirwin5296 29 күн бұрын
Unfortunately for Kamala’s team, they had a candidate who was a wholly unable to take advantage of the long-form podcast format. As a person without principled political or policy commitments, she had much less to talk about. One of her greatest problems has been a fundamental deficiency in verbal communication. She obfuscates effectively, but does not construct with any coherence. Putting her on podcasts would have simply maximized public awareness of her weaknesses.
@illabesa
@illabesa Ай бұрын
Longtime subscriber from when you guys had like 4k. This is your best video! Absolutely love this, seriously just a wonderful and insightful conversation. Love the “Trump = Barbie” bit. Brilliant.
@InkedJoyRider
@InkedJoyRider 2 күн бұрын
Hello Colin and Samir happy new year🎉
@IanZORZ
@IanZORZ Ай бұрын
Great episode - I was telling my parents a few days before the election that Kamala lost it by not giving time and being brave for long form KZbin interviews.
@anonymouskid239
@anonymouskid239 Ай бұрын
I remember watching your old lacrosse videos... How times change.
@j.s.6876
@j.s.6876 Ай бұрын
Kamala Harris was invited to all these podcasts. Also don't forget Vladimir zelensky the president of Ukraine was a actor comedian before being elected. Same with Ronald Reagan
@DroBuilds
@DroBuilds Ай бұрын
By far the best most unbiased political video I’ve seen all year
@MightyWeeks
@MightyWeeks Ай бұрын
25:00 is spot on. “Audiences have consumed too much to feel like it is hypercurated and hyperedited and this is backlash to that.” Incredibly well said.
@cesmigs8502
@cesmigs8502 27 күн бұрын
This just shows that legacy media is done.
@zymaphobia
@zymaphobia Ай бұрын
10:33 hey editor, forgot to add radius to the mcd trump pic 😂😂
@jamicahmoore
@jamicahmoore Ай бұрын
Nice catch
@psycholatte468
@psycholatte468 Ай бұрын
It's all about connecting with the people and looking more relatable, and when it came down to that trump really had the edge over kamala. It's all about defying the invsible barrier that separates the common people and these presidential candidates.
@Gold-pd9br
@Gold-pd9br Ай бұрын
Yeah trump is more charismatic and Kamala is more buttoned up for sure
@melissaheredia1917
@melissaheredia1917 Ай бұрын
Bullshit , he can’t answer question straight without rambling. She is not charismatic 9:22 either, but she is held to a much higher standard. If she rambles, people say she has word salad, if he rambles people just give him a pass.
@connorobrien9039
@connorobrien9039 Ай бұрын
Great, thorough, and honest episode full of insights that motivate creators. You guys are the best 🎉
@GiDS222
@GiDS222 Ай бұрын
I would say that Kamala's lack of podcast appearances really screwed her chances
@rafalpilat4229
@rafalpilat4229 23 күн бұрын
Lack of authenticity really. This was the reason she couldn't really show up on podcasts, she would get destroyed
@geoc1005
@geoc1005 Ай бұрын
Great discussion! That graph at the beginning is unforgettable. 🔥
@SlayNetwork
@SlayNetwork Ай бұрын
Okay time to start a podcast
@TheHaydenRamey
@TheHaydenRamey Ай бұрын
Loved how non bias this was and stuck to the facts and relevant opinions. Well done
@sabrod92
@sabrod92 Ай бұрын
Don't forget his son Barron has a big role in the podcast choices.
@jacksmoment
@jacksmoment Ай бұрын
Colin trying to defend Kamala 😂 This was a blowout in every aspect
@DJMoonDawgLive
@DJMoonDawgLive Ай бұрын
Sup boys, 100% agree with everything said but you missed one important point in this…the demographics! All of these podcasts maybe minus Call Her Daddy and one more are all heavily consumed by men. As it turns out, men (young men especially) came out and were a big factor in this years election. Kamala’s campaign fumbled so hard by not going to the places where men frequent to try to win them over.
@Bowlyful
@Bowlyful Ай бұрын
Great episode
@llalaaland
@llalaaland Ай бұрын
this was pretty based, Loved the perspective, would love to watch you guys further analyse the election. I would also love to get your perspective on UK's KZbin Scene.
@demigreen6495
@demigreen6495 Ай бұрын
What does based mean
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