Ultra-Processed People: The Science Behind Food That Isn't Food | Dr Chris van Tulleken FULL EVENT

The BAFTA-winning broadcaster and physician joins us to reveal what ultra-processed foods are doing to your body, our society, and the planet.
Over the past 150 years, we have entered a new ‘age of eating’ where most of our calories come from an entirely novel set of substances: Ultra-Processed Foods.
Now award-winning broadcaster, practicing NHS doctor and leading academic Dr Chris van Tulleken joins Robin Ince to reveal the disastrous effects of Ultra-Processed Food on our health. UPFs are now the leading cause of early death globally and the number one cause of environmental destruction.
Ultra-Processed Food (UPF) has a long, formal scientific definition, but it can be boiled down to this: if it’s wrapped in plastic and has at least one ingredient that you wouldn’t find in your kitchen, it’s UPF.
Drawing on his own experiment of eating an 80% UPF diet for one month, Chris will explore the invention of UPF and its impact on our health and weight - from altering metabolism and appetite, to an increased risk of serious health problems like cardiovascular disease and dementia.
He will show that almost all our staple foods are ultra-processed - bread, cereal, biscuits, desserts, dairy products and condiments; explains why exercise and willpower cannot prevent obesity and ill health due to UPF; and provides solutions for individuals, policy makers and the food industry.
Revelatory, powerful and rigorously researched, Chris’s insights into Ultra-Processed Food will change how we eat forever.
Praise for Chris van Tulleken’s Ultra-Processed People:
“A wonderful and fascinating exposé … Reading this book will make you question what you eat and how it was produced.” - Michael Mosley
“If you only read one diet or nutrition book in your life, make it this one … In clear, humorous and informative prose, Chris lays out what ultra-processed food is and why it is the single greatest problem with modern diets.” - Bee Wilson
“Packed with ‘I never knew that’ moments, Ultra-Processed People is a wonderfully playful book that changed forever how I think about what I eat and why” - Hannah Fry
Chris van Tulleken has a medical degree from Oxford and a PhD in molecular virology from UCL. He is a practicing infectious diseases doctor in the NHS and an associate professor at University College London, where his research focuses on how corporations affect human health, especially in the context of nutrition. He works closely with UNICEF and the World Health Organisation on infant nutrition. As one the UK’s leading science broadcasters, Chris has won two BAFTAs for his long-running CBBC series Operation Ouch, co-presented with his twin brother Xand. Following his BBC One documentary ‘What Are We Feeding Our Kids?’ and the chart-topping podcast ‘A Thorough Examination - Addicted to Food’, Chris has become the UK’s go-to expert on UPF.
Robin Ince is the co-presenter of Radio 4’s multiple award winning The Infinite Monkey Cage. He spent 2019 appearing across the world in the Universal tour with Brian Cox - travelling from LA to Oslo, Wellington to Aberdeen and ending up in Reykjavik after shows at the 02 and Wembley Arena. Robin co-wrote How to Build a Universe (part 1) with Brian Cox and authored other works including The Importance of Being Interested - Adventures in Scientific Curiosity, and his most recent book, Bibliomaniac: An Obsessive’s Tour of the Bookshops of Britain.

[@jobrown8146]

I didn't realise how addicted to sugar and carbs I was until I was diagnosed with diabetes and chose to change my diet to low carb, which successfully remitted my diabetes in less than 3 months. After only 2-3 weeks I no longer craved them and I am no longer a slave to food. I've also lost more than 20% of my starting weight (a loss of 40lbs), reduced my blood pressure, better sleep quality, waist gone from 44" to 36". I carried a 15lb bag of groceries the other day which felt very heavy and realised that I had lost 2.5 times that amount.

[@tomrobb9974]

I have Stage 4 cancer, Non Hodgkin's Lymphoma : on completion of my last chemo session ( over 26 weeks ), I asked my oncologist, "What now?" He gave me the most effective and simple advice ever, " Don't eat crap and exercise as hard as you can ". He told me that as they knew I was in love with cycling ( I'm 63 by the way and a big bloke ) that I was to get on my bike and attack the hills as hard as I could. This approach to hard exercise combined with the healthy eating ( i.e. pure foods ) would suit me well. It most certainly has. Since reading the books by Chris van Tulleken's superb and very scary book, I have put into practice an eating regime where I don't buy anything in a packet. So greens from the greengrocer, fish from the fishmonger and beef from the butchers. Add into that what I call my cardio-burst of 10km's a night on one of my bikes with a longer 45 km ride at the weekend and at my most recent MRI last week my cancer which is rated as incurable, could not be found anywhere in the MRI imaging. Previous to Chris's book, I reckon I was about 75% pure foods, but this excellent work has pushed me to go to 100% pure foods and the difference is already being felt. Chris's book was enough to make the final penny drop and convert to 100% clean foods. Once you grasp it, it's the most obvious thing to do for a longer and happier life, plus there's the added joy of realising you're sticking it to those massive multi national corporations who are essentially trying to kill us all through their industrial edible products ha ha !

[@gg-wk2ww]

Intermittent fasting, check it out and autophagy. Learn as much as you can. Vitd3 along with vitk2 10k twice a day, Videos Dr Eric Berg, Dr John Campbell, Dr Mobeen

[@panes840]

That's fantastic. I'm really pleased for you. But I wouldn't touch meat with a barge poll and as for fish nope, highly polluted seas! Mammalian hormones, chemicals, saturated fat, and cholesterol ditch it!! There is plenty of UNBIASED Science to prove what I'm saying. So you are doing fantastic, so ditch the addiction to animal products! See Dr Joel Furhman and Simon Hill on his YT channel

[@primehealthprosperity]

I am so happy to hear this! I know I don't know you, but that warms my heart. My dad passed away from cancer and it made no sense. After watching this it makes so much. My soul feels like sunshine from this story thankyou for sharing!

[@tomrobb9974]

@@primehealthprosperity Thank you for your wonderful comments : here's a very strange update ! On Sunday last, I did a 55 KM ride , mid day in really hot conditions, over many hills with 564 metres of elevation thrown in. While still 27 km's from home, I stopped to have the cyclists obligatory coffee and thought that under these cycling circumstances, that a KitKat wouldn't kill me or stick to my ribs. The kiosk didn't have any so instead I bought a caramel square, thinking that the sugar in it would be burned up by me straight away on the hot hilly ride home. To my utter shock, it was revolting to taste ! I could not even finish half of it, its taste on my tongue and mouth was ghastly. I am convinced that my body had by now, week 5 on 100% pure foods, rejected it completely for the junk it was. For me, what was further proof of this concept ( as alluded to by Chris in the book ) was that there was no fall off on my speed on the way home : I didn't hit the wall, didn't hit the "bonk" and in fact hammered the last 8 km's home so hard it surprised even me. Everything in Chris's book is true and my weight is coming off steadily and at a rate that is not comparable to all the other diets where the rapid weight loos in the first 10 days is just water ( and then you hit the dreaded plateau ). You take care and enjoy Life !!!!

[@alisonmaillard5341]

Well done you! You’re an inspiration! ❤

[@pheart2381]

Just had a look at the tub of Clover light margarine(before I threw it away) buttermilk 40%,palm oil,rapeseed oil,water,salt,lactic acid,natural flavouring(not specified),carotenes. Yet the packaging has flowers,plants,a kite,robins singing,even a hedgehog! butterflies,all to make it look like a natural healthy product.

[@gordonlekfors2708]

is it that bad? the flavourings seem like the worst part. no emulsifiers at least.

[@KnackFarmer-theanswerismeat]

@@gordonlekfors2708 It's bad - those oils are highly processed/refined, 'natural flavourings' can be any number of things that cause drama. It's full cream unsalted butter or nought.

[@kenadams5504]

What they call a "health halo" ....processed "food" thats packaged as healthy. Eat real food that doesn't need deceptive packaging...meat from the butchers/fish from a fishmonger/vegetables /cheese/eggs/butter .Your gut /liver and lipid panel tests will vindicate your decision.

[@panes840]

Sorry if you think full cream or butter is any healthier you arexsadly mistaken. People like to hear good news about their bad habits. A stick of butter is worse than a steak!!! Good luck and I hope you think twice.

[@pheart2381]

My point was the packaging was giving the impression that it is a natural healthy product,and it isnt. Atleast I know what is in butter.

[@karinhaverson248]

As a fit and healthy 79 year old ,80 in two weeks time, with normal blood pressure, a badminton and tennis player with no aches and pains and no other illnesses I used to think I had lucky genes. But listening to this interview and also Tim Spector's talks made me realise that it was my vegetable garden and love of home cooked meals which have been my saviour. When tempted to eat more ready meals after becoming a widow ten years ago, I found that a lot of UPF gave me acid reflux, home cooked food never did. So for nearly all my life my main meal has been home cooked. And my breakfast has always been home made sourdough rye bread with home made jam. Is this why I am so unusually fit and healthy?

[@haksaw123]

Undoubtedly, we are the product of what we injest. Food is our fuel.❤

[@EmmaVoyseyHealthCoaching]

Huge Congratulations! I want to be as fit and healthy as you when I’m 80,90,100….I’ve always cooked everything from scratch. Last few years; as organic as possible. Plenty of exercise. No meds. It’s the only way! I’m 54 😊

[@julianshepherd2038]

Your missus is putting speed I your tea.

[@fedupwelsh7211]

@@julianshepherd2038 did you not read that the gentleman is a widower?

[@Bigboss192x]

​@Fed up Welsh did you not see that's the missus who is a widow?

[@merlion6613]

Interesting to see the scientific evidence for things we have always known. I was very fortunate to have been raised with home cooked, proper food every day. My palette as an adult now cannot stand artificial or ready-made flavours as I find them revolting. And fortunately, my entire family has a very good health. Thank you mum, grandma and aunties who made sure we ate good food from day one 🙏

[@sw-suddentraveller]

Dr Chris I think you are very brave for taking on the multinational food companies. The first few doctors to take on the tobacco companies met with huge resistance and your work is as important as theirs was. It was interesting to see that it was little Aisha's question at the end who really got you to open up about who you think is responsible for the problem and who will ultimately help solve it. I think it's about as likely as the tobacco companies did, that the food industry will self regulate so unfortunately it will end up being down to government intervention and regulation. There are many of us I'm sure, who are cheering you all the way.

[@jackdebokx4566]

In my limited view, it's simple economics to blame. I don't think the comparison to the tobacco industry is completely fair as we can do without tobacco but we can't do without food. Our society relies on cheap accessible food, which the industry more than happily provides. They make a very nice profit doing so, and can therefore pay a healthy dividend to the institutional investors who happen to be in some cases our pension funds, on which we rely to get monthly payments once we retire. In the end economy rules and as long as we don't step away from the mindset that our economy needs to grow year on year, it will be very hard to change the mindset of business and politics.

[@mmk590]

What he says about reading the book while eating the crisps is sooo true!! I did that to myself.. I continued to eat what I was eating and the quantities of them, but started watching all the videos of how bad they are over and over again. Now I almost have a physical reaction to eating outside food and fast food! It is crazy how well it works!!!

[@andrewbeevers4686]

I lived in North East Asia for several years where it's still very rare to see an obese person and most elderly are active. They eat a real meal for breakfast and you don't (yet?) see lines and lines of crisps, sandwiches, cakes, chocolates, sweets and biscuits in every convenience store. In the UK even the hospitals are full of unhealthy food.

[@matthewhook3375]

Saw another interview with Chris on Channel 4 and found it fully incomprehensible that he works in a hospital and has to leave the site to buy lunch if he doesn't bring in leftovers from the day before. And if he doesn't have time to leave site he prefers to go hungry than to eat all the UPF junk, which is all that's available on site. Absolutely mental.

[@andrewbeevers4686]

@@matthewhook3375 It's about money, finally.

[@peterbrenton410]

It would be interesting to hear his thoughts on how to get junk processed food out of hospital menus if only to help patient's recovery and free up beds

[@richardmiddleton7770]

It's a budget issue. They need to have foods with long shelf life. Staying out of hospital in the first place is key!

[@johnnyblazey]

​@@richardmiddleton7770I agree but it's always a good idea to get a 'total body physical' annually/ semi-annually as a 'summary of self' will benefit one's self as she/he may have something underlying, within and can be maintained early instead of later...i would rather know than not know, what's biologically, chemically, neurogically, etc. going on within. Life will help Life regardless of Life.

[@sharfalor4244]

​@@richardmiddleton7770it's not just about shelf life, it's cost. I've worked in NHS finance and processed the invoices. They contract with the cheapest supplier regardless of quality.

[@urbaneabenteuer]

It's ridiculous. Hospitals and their meals should make us healthy again. Yet most treatments don't treat the root cause and will only doctor on the symptoms. And after avoidable treatments they feed us crap. Patients would recover way faster with healthy, real food.

[@brekerr]

When it comes to the Nestle thing it depresses me so much that so few people were willing to give up a few niceties to stop nestle doing nasty things to others.

[@peterbrenton410]

In tandem with such a debate,it's also useful to read books about the loss of nutrients in crops from intensive farming grown in mineral - depleted ,chemically drenched soils and crops with residues that end up in our processed and fresh foods ..Such books are Grass-Fed Nation by Graham Greene and. The Food Fallacy by by Dr. Andrew Stringer ,who recommends our 'ancestral diet'( meat from grazing animals,fish incl shellfish,green leafy vegetables, seasonal fruits, berries and nuts and occasional eggs )as the best way to stay free of chronic, degenerative disease.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Rage Against the Vending Machine

[@superpuppy7854]

I remember hearing about a monastery in Portugal that has a narrow door into the dining room....

[@jonathanbowen3640]

Sensible

[@deerheart87]

There's also a shop nearby that sells vaseline and shoe horns

[@Tom-cj1ip]

You’re doing a brilliant job Chris well done and thank you

[@teresajohnson1352]

❤❤❤

[@blackswan.7005]

I've been diagnosed with high blood pressure, I've started intermittent fasting, buying whole foods and I've already lost 5lbs

[@marcdaniels9079]

That would be the IF reducing your calories

[@musicloverUK]

Magnesium helps with lowering blood pressure too. Did for me. Giving up caffeine too.

[@ches15461]

At 63 im so glad ive discovered the horror that upf, ive never really been a massive consumer of the stuff, or so i thought!! My parents always had home grown veg, didnt do ready meals, my dad was 93, when he passed, and my mum 95, neither suffered with any ailments, neither were on an perscribtion drugs, which amazed doctors. Ive just started following the glucose goddess teachings and have lost 21llbs 9kg in 3 months. Look around, and see the obesity thats increasing year on year. I thank God i saw it, and and made the change.

[@adam7802]

Where he talks about what it was like coming off processed food it reminds me of what it was like for me when I changed my drinking habits, probably a similar thing - since the age of 18 I made the decision to only drink water exclusively (I do drink beer, but that's more of a weekend treat and only socially). After 3 months of not enjoying it, I found water is the only drink I find satisfying to have when I'm thirsty. I know that should go without saying, but having drinks like coke just don't quench your thirst and when your main drink is water it becomes really apparent, the taste also just isn't as good as it seemed before I did this change. On a rare occasion I like to treat myself to a fizzy drink, but if I had more than that I really don't enjoy it.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Well done you but there is a huge weight of research showing that artificially sweetened drinks are not harmful and of course significantly help with calorie control

[@adam7802]

@@marcdaniels9079...and yet people get addicted to drinking these things full of sugar, caffeine amongst other things and won't drink water 🤷‍♂️ I said it was similar, not the same.

[@bisiilki]

​@marcdaniels9079 nice try, mr pepsi co!

[@KnackFarmer-theanswerismeat]

I very much enjoy hearing from Chris and this was a well executed interview - great moments of humour on what is actually a rather terrifying situation. I cut out UPF in the main years ago, now am enjoying my 60th year in good health.

[@brendafarris7350]

So much powerful information!

[@cmost4821]

We're listening!!

[@optimistnow7491]

Loving your work - and following your work - thank you …

[@deborahrose7047]

The psychological persusion principles he referred to can be found in the work of BJFogg from stanford University, plus Nir Eyal who writes the book called Hooked, professor Knutson who looks at the neuroscience of decision making etc.....BJFoggs is a good start to understand how the persuasion addiction principles are being applied to apps. There is a whole industry who understand cognitive biases and apply it to product development. Ethically and policy discussion is required

[@fredatlas4396]

Its all about corporate greed, profits, not just sensible, reasonable profits, they have to be making bigger and bigger profits year on year, and surely that's not sustainable in the long term.This is doing untold damage to people's lives and our environment. I'm not a practising Christian, but i think it says in the bible the love of money is the root of all evil

[@williamselley4519]

Nice to see Ser Davos Seaworth so interested in healthy eating.

[@ateeq_hussain]

Education education education. Just be careful what you class as education. This was a great interview. Thank you to the host for injecting! humour into a very serious conversation 🎉

[@GabrielHellborne]

Say the words, Doc! He's not saying the words! The problem is CAPITALISM!

[@WestieWestie]

He says that in the book.

[@thespiritualistoslo]

Love this!

[@juliamontalvo9717]

I pre-ordered his book in June 27th I will start reading it

[@ThatBritishHomestead]

I am just getting into this and having a very limited understanding of what the impact is however it’s terribly terrifying! Wow. I always thought that pizzas noodles etc are bad but there is so much I didn’t know! 😮

[@richardmiddleton7770]

It's the reason for the rise in obesity and literally every disease you can think of! That's the impact!

[@peterbrenton410]

Best meat and dairy is from pasture fed (not just grass, but with clovers and herbs for healthier fats and nutrients.Most non-organic meat is fed on grain and cereals, (much of which is GM soya imported from the US,) which makes ruminants sick and produces lower levels of beneficial fats like omega 3. Sugars from fruit and vegetables are better than refined sugar,celtic sea and Himalayan salt is better than table salt which is stripped of the majority of essential minerals that the body needs.

[@tamijaegel7744]

I am sorry to say that ads on KZbin during the playing of your program are ultra-processed fast food...😔

[@maggiepope2171]

I thought buying jam and marmalade was simple. I just read the ingredients in my marmalade to find 'Ammonia caramel'. WHAT? I assumed it would just be oranges and sugar...

[@irenalovesart4064]

So many more people should watch this! You should make an ad!😅

[@bobadams7654]

Unfortunately, the ones who need to watch it the most, are the ones who won't.

[@kim-lusteenkamp4866]

Share, share, share

[@postiechic]

does this come in some sort of ebook format? Having loads of trouble finding it in Australia

[@hkaur4487]

I think the lack of advice is a missed opportunity to support people to take positive action. The lucrative diet industry is testament to the fact that people want advice on how to eat, but lack nutritional and scientific literacy to evaluate marketed diet claims and make rational dietary choices. After reading a book that paints a stark portrait of the industrial UFP complex and it's links to disease, you definitely need to provide advice or a rubric for evaluating what's in the shops and make better food decisions.

[@ceciliadelarosazoquier6995]

Dr. Peter Attia and Andrew Huberman are great professionals to listen to, watch or read if you want to improve your overall health.

[@marcdaniels9079]

I can’t agree. Huberman is really just another internet influencer who creates content to make money by preaching all kinds of ineffective and trendy methods

[@jamesgrover2005]

This was great thanks 🙏🏻

[@LorraineRo]

We often have people bring snacks to the office. Being vegan, they are often not suitable for me. And it's amazing how little having those foods in the office effects me. But if they are vegan, it is much more difficult to not overindulge 🙈🤦🏼‍♀️

[@sophierob5309]

I agree! My office is actually great always having vegan food. But the times there is nothing for me, I am glad as the UPF impacts my quality of work straight away

[@ChaosPending]

“This bread has no tenacity at all” I relate, properly baked no additives tenacious bread is the best, I guess I middle aged too

[@chrilin5107]

55.29 interesting...like things you don't want or want what you don't like...never thought about that😏 but it's true

[@aprilf3243]

I reject that it's cheaper. You can make a casserole out of ground meat or eggs, rice or potatoes, and pretty much any vegetable for very little money and eat it for a week.

[@alicejwho]

Why do you say you arent against 'big food'? Are you too scared to actually come out and put the blame where it very firmly lies? (plus the food regulators etc) Theyre almost as bad, perhaps just as bad, as big pharma, which you say you also aren't against. Despite that sector having been given the largest fines in history for malpractice at the expense of people's LIVES.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Are they to blame? Really ? Do people have so little agency and self control that they take no responsibility for what they consume ?

[@cassieoz1702]

Being hungry has been so badly demonised that people would rather eat food they really dislike, than miss a meal

[@izzy_izzy_izzybelle]

i think its more the dependency we've placed on the three meals a day structure. whenever i look into changing my diet, almost in every article or book i come across, it retains that you NEED to have three meals a day and it will be VERY bad if you don't. for some vague reason that is often left unsaid. a very strange thing to push considering the concept of a lunch hasn't actually been around all that long. most people could go without three meals and be just fine

[@cassieoz1702]

@marbelle6881 and its made worse by the huge weelness/weight loss industry telling you they can get you to lose weight WITHOUT HUNGER!

[@Crouchy232323]

Name one person who has demonized being hungry

[@h.o.j2375]

Wouldn’t call it demonised, I call it brainwashing. Been brainwash by the cereal industry that breakfast is the most important meal of the day and the best time is right away when we get out of bed. Breakfast prior to invention of cereal use to be whenever you ate the first meal, that could be at 10am or 12pm, breaking fast. Everyone was doing intermediate fasting lol… people didn’t snack at 10pm after eating their dinner at 7pm, only to have “breakfast” again at 7am. They ate twice to three times a day in a very small time frame because they just didn’t have that much time to eat! 60 yrs ago nobody was snacking at their office desk, now look at everyone around you in the office.

[@marrs1013]

Breakfast, lunch, dinner! Eat your breakfast like king, your lunch like a patrician, your dinner like a beggar. What a load of bolloks! You binge up yourself for morning, by the time you get to lunch you most likely stressed by the day, so you eat more to numb yourself, by the time you get home for dinner, you just want to treat yourself with 'a little something' for surviving the day at all. Good luck!

[@tashasgran]

As a Mum of 2 diabetic adult children, it’s very difficult not to try to help them.

[@thesayerofing]

Are they adult children or your children who are adults? I've worked with development impaired adults who were diabetic, part of their treatment plan was encouraging a positive relationship with food.

[@Juacline]

Is homemade bread using instant yeast ultraprocessed or just processed?

[@applegal3058]

My guess it's just processed.

[@sharfalor4244]

Either way it's still better than shop bought bread. Though there's nothing good about flour.

[@DLFfitness1]

Keep it simple. Limit or avoid processed foods. Food is for nutrition. It is not for entertainment.

[@Creative_soil]

I just eat beef, sardines, eggs, butter, Sea salt, and water only. No more food addiction. No more binge eating.

[@rowandowland1391]

We should not call UPF 'food', its a manufactured product. I grew up in a low income Italian family with 9 children and we ate only real food... the economics of real food vs UPF is not just about price. The message of real vs UFP needs to reach the masses... we all have a responsibility to share this and other You Tube videos on this topic. There's little point preaching to the converted... Campaigning against UPF should follow the tabacco & climate change play books.. Is there an equivalent IPCC ( Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) in the food industry where global food science is peer reviewed and regularly reported on? Educating young kids and teens on how cool real food is, will be essential.

[@kim-lusteenkamp4866]

Did you eat pizza 😊

[@rowandowland1391]

@@kim-lusteenkamp4866 Yes, home made, home grown, organic real food, unlike the UPF many people call pizza.

[@KJ-yises]

@@rowandowland1391does the local pizzeria’s pizza count as real food? I have an Italian claiming it’s all store made.

[@rowandowland1391]

@@KJ-yises They when they're local produce and organic.

[@KJ-yises]

@@rowandowland1391 not sure about organic but it’s the best pizza outside of Italy.

[@paulascantlebury6106]

what about frozen vegetables and meat?

[@Ryan-wr8fx]

What about them?

[@Jay37_tech]

That’s fine

[@Qwuiet]

Food industry is very good at being deceptive. Those aren’t all safe either, but I would say it’s better than UPF. I would hope so!

[@callicordova4066]

So glad I gave up sodas long ago. So glad I don't use artificial sweeteners. So glad I gave up seed oils. So glad I don't eat "fast food." Rarely eat out. I've heard that ultra-processed food is "pre-digested" food.

[@magpie1492]

This is why I get annoyed by the UK sugar tax. I don't want to eat/drink chemical sweetners, nor do I want to feed them to my children. Therefore I will pay for the more expensive sugar versions and restrict the quantity.

[@johnnyblazey]

What's better? (...to put in one self's' body) ...a prargraph or a sentence of the ingredients/ product's Nutritional label. ...recognizables or unrecognizables. ...known or unknown ingredients. ...natUral foods or synthetics. Practically all natUral food products, already have natUral ingredients in it, as natUre is as natUral as it gets...before 'hUman inflUenced syntheticsm' of course. Water (spring, filtered, etc.), will help 'dilute' excess what-nots out of the body anyways. My diet is practically all natUral as i do not have any condiments, sauces, seasonings, etc. for approx. 20 years now. All requirements i need, have to be natUral as my body has adapted to natUralism, since birth (born w/ an extremely rare condition which is still unknown to my doc & specialists). I have some minor similarities comparing to all diagnosed hUmans but condition overall, unknown (according to the med staff...they all practically say the same thing, 'we've never seen anyone like yoU before.') That, doesn't scurry me away though. I'm still here on this Earth and proUd to be alive every second w/ co-existance of existance itself. Ingeneral, we are all stUdents & teachers anyways, regardless of oUr Life-rolez. Cheers for the Chat! ...insightfUl :D

[@alicejwho]

We spend over one-sixth of our monthly income on food (no alcohol). How on earth is everyone else spending so little?!

[@julianshepherd2038]

They rich

[@jodymaley3674]

Garden

[@simonh6371]

It's a British thing. People live in 5 bedroom houses but eat the cheapest food. It's just not prioritised here like it is in other countries.

[@alicejwho]

@@simonh6371 I think you're right! I've been reading about nutrition and the food industry for 30 years and I do forget that most people still eat so badly. We earn good money so the fact that we spend at least one-sixth of it on food means we're spending a lot, especially now.

[@simonh6371]

@@alicejwho Honestly I have zero sympathy for people who eat badly. It's actually cheaper to eat healthily than eat junk food, you can still eat well on a budget. And not informing oneself about nutrition is just insane, we live in an age with more access to information than ever before in human history and people spend hours online, yet they don't want to research the second most important human necessity after breathing.

[@worldcitizenra]

I was not pleased that his constant fallback for responsibility for ultra processed food was that the financial pressure is coming from "our pensions". Yes, there is no doubt that pension fund investments have an impact. However, there are massive and growing amounts of investment funds being invested in harmful industries that have nothing to do with "our pensions". In addition, the people managing those pension funds are often not interested in whether there is harm being done by the investments. They are interested in generating investment returns that will increase their management fees. Few pension funds ask their members what the fund's investment policies should be and give the members any choice between harmful or non-harmful investments. All the "our pensions" argument does is give further cover to both the food processors and the investment management industry.

[@alexeichoquet7822]

The big elephant on that couch is the stock market itself

[@panes840]

Well said😊

[@fredatlas4396]

The problem is their are a lot of so called, ESG & sustainable investment funds available now, passive & actively managed funds. But its just a scam, they aren't actually making any real difference the companies they are investing in aren't really ESG or really sustainable. It's just an exercise in marketing to make the investment companies and fund managers bigger profits, they charge higher fees for these funds & they have been underperforming the normal lower cost funds. Not good for ordinary workers trying to save in the hope that one day they might actually be able to retire with enough income to be able to enjoy their retirement and not be worrying about paying their bills . The only real way to make a real difference is for governments to introduce legislation, heavy fines, penalties for businesses that don't comply. And the tories are trying to scrap legislation now , like legislation that is there to help protect our environment, protect workers and consumers. I wouldn't hold your breath if you are expecting things to radicaly change any day soon

[@markiangooley]

Nixtamalization of maize is definitely processing. But it makes nutrients available and trashes some antinutrients.

[@ClassicJukeboxBand]

We don't love processed food for scientific reasons. We love processed food for evolutionary reasons.

[@bortstanson2034]

Can't you say the same thing about tobacco? Nevertheless we control the sale and advertising of this natural product

[@marcdaniels9079]

@@bortstanson2034 No. There is no evolutionary reason for human beings to become addicted to nicotine. Anyway it’s not been around long enough as a drug of choice to have influenced evolution!

[@marcdaniels9079]

Well that’s why we love fat salt and sugar … I think that’s what you are getting at. And UPF contain these in abundance.

[@bortstanson2034]

Anyone who doubts that these foods are as addictive as cigarettes should watch my 600lb life then tell me it is those poor souls fault for ballooning to 600lb whilst abrogating responsibility from the multinational peddlers.

[@marcdaniels9079]

But not everyone is 600lbs do while these unfortunate individuals may indeed have some addictive tendencies to UPF (we don’t actually know) they are the very extreme.

[@bortstanson2034]

@@marcdaniels9079 I think we're beyond "we don't actually know" when heart disease caused by obesity are the biggest killers in the west. 73% of Americans are overweight or obese, you can't blame this on them overeating natural foods, but consuming these UPFs, specifically engineered to be gorged on again and again.

[@richardmiddleton7770]

​@@marcdaniels9079they are at the extreme end of the spectrum simply because of will power and self control. Slim people are just as addicted, they just control it better.

[@Sue-rh4qj]

People who were formula fed as babies are more likely to have issues with obesity as adults.

[@KJB0001]

so the guy who lost45 pounds on EXCLUSIVELY McDonalds meals lied?

[@richardmiddleton7770]

Lied about what? You can lose WEIGHT (fat AND muscle), on any diet IF you're in a calorie deficit. However, you'll be very unhealthy, miserable and it isn't sustainable long term. Eventually you will no longer be able to hold the deficit or even maintainance calories and you will regain the weight, mostly of fat due to the muscle loss.

[@Wishing_you_peace]

They dont need cooking, perfect for depressed people.

[@SuperRandomrap]

13-14 industry is hurting people and and advice is hurting people unless you say you want to help them 37:40 thrusts are cleverly suppressed by people who make money

[@SuperRandomrap]

904 comerciogenic malnutrition 10-12 we want to protect you from the people who say our products are bad

[@marrs1013]

A 'bit off topic, but I had to dodge my way through about 157 ads by Google, and 99% of them were products for women. Haircare, make up, fashion, etc... Just because the topic is healthy eating. I'm a middle aged man watching almost exclusively history and engineering realated content. Is it me who is sexist, or Google? To avoid getting pushed into a bubble, I switched off targeted adverts, so I guess it's Google, but what do I know...

[@carolthomas8528]

Roll on AI then - there will be lots of adverts tailored specially for your tastes .

[@jonntischnabel]

"obesity isn't a thing you have to carry around with you all day" err... Yes it is! 😂

[@TW-dj5zq]

I think it's a bit of a myth that eating meat is worse for the environment. If you eat local (which i know most don't) it's comparatively better than something which is heavily industrialised with ingredients from all over the world. One is obviously much more expensive than the other and thus out of reach for many but maybe we ought to be promoting old fashioned meat farming. Just de industrialise everything food related 😂

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

Yes, and also the ethical argument, which is an important one but a lot of people don't realise that a lot of animals like birds, rabbits and pollinating species have lost their lives for people to have their serving of vego burger with broccoli with a dressing based on canola oil.

[@idgafcba]

@@johannas.l.brushane2518 where do the crops come from to feed the animals in the first place? those things you listed also take place in animal agriculture. Also, not eating meat doesn't mean eating processed food. You can forgo processed vegan food, just as you can with a carnivorous diet.

[@HARRi81_UK]

2 dominos adverts in the middle of this video! 😂 No thanks!

[@mrjoshuagordon]

37:18 "spreading the idea that you can go for a run and burn off extra calories which isn't true". so you're saying I can go run a marathon without taking any carbohydrates as fuel?

[@chrilin5107]

32.36 I can eat way too much avocado or berries (especially raspberries or blueberries) when they're in season in Spain resp Scandinavia because then they're free and abundant so you 1 can afford it 2 don't feel guilty or 3 you (at least I do) have to because you can't let them go to waste...so you stuff yourself...never liked sweets/pop or snacks like crisps etc I do sometimes buy vegan cheese and I use vegetable oil when I cook etc so I'm not all whole foods. But I don't feel a need to eat if I'm not hungry or there isn't something that needs eating, like leftovers that won't be used next day (too little left etc).

[@NoLove4Me_]

I don’t like processed food at all, it all tastes horrible.

[@flaviamilani1927]

Dear Doctor , I live in Italy and have , like many Italians , never consumed processed foods and used seed oils , processed cheese etc. We just have never in our life’s bought margarine because we produce our own olive oil . Probably the most processed food we buy is salame or sausage.But I still developed insuline resistance and all the consequences of it . WHY NOT TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH ? Why not tell them it is the CARBS and SUGARS that cause all chronic diseases ? Diabetes here is rising very fast , maybe not as fast as in UK but do you know obesity rate in children is 50% in southern Italy ? And I can assure you they eat for the most part fantastically good quality food but THEY EAT TOO MANY CARBOHYDRATES AND SUGARS. I can understand in the UK things are different but here you go to peoples homes and are surprised by the high standards , wonderful veggies etc but they still develop all the chronic diseases because they eat too many carbs !

[@Jay37_tech]

Yes excessive carbs & sugars are bad but also seed oils are toxic

[@Lisimachos]

Sooooo right …👍

[@LiViro1]

39:10 "When people have money they don't buy ultraprocessed food (...) so people don't really WANT to buy this food". This explanation seems very simplistic to me, I could come up with other possibilities from the top of my head, like "People who have more discipline and put more thoughts into their habits also happen to aquire more money". If you're poor and you drink soda to most meals instead of free tap water - money isn't the main problem here.

[@adrianna1289]

I don’t eat ready meals, don’t visit fast food outlets, nor I ever ordered a takeaway. The latter I wouldn’t even know where to start. The ready meals from supermarkets look like a slop to me. What I can’t understand is how people can afford that? It comes across as a cheap food, but it surely isn’t. If I buy a chicken, some veg and rice I can make multiple meals out of it. How could this possibly be more expensive than fully processed food? I don’t understand. This also comes from a person that is very savvy with money.

[@BloodSweatandFears]

Even as a child I didn’t like soda, sugar, and super processed food. Guess I’m a rather UN American American 😅😂 I think I may have strong taste buds though so that may be why.

[@user-fk8rb8ue5h]

The elephant in the room is appetite. If you haven't got a big one, you are okay. If you have got a big one, you've got a big problem when it comes to overheating.

[@rubylady7126]

Reduce your appetite with fat, and cut out carbs and sugar. I eat once per day and am Never hungry. Never get hunger pangs and I feel so much better now.

[@pheart2381]

Watch What is ultra-processed food and why does it lead to weight gain?,on the same channel. They explain clearly how eating processed food alters the brain pathways and appetite hormones to leave you wanting more,or feeling unsatisfied. If you have appetite issues over-processed food may be the reason for it.

[@julietijerina8176]

Ultra processed food hijacks our leptin and ghrelin. So, we can eat and eat it and never feel satiated. In fact, it increases hunger.

[@simonh6371]

Rubbish if you eat food with a lot of nutrients you will feel satiated. If you eat food with very little in the way of nutrients your body will want more and tell you to eat more. It's that simple. Hence the term ''empty calories''

[@marcdaniels9079]

@@rubylady7126 That’s your n=1 experience ignoring all the health issues associated with eating a high fat diet.

[@surviving8316]

Is this why the youngsters are becoming increasingly more violent ... And why we're seeing more dog attacks?

[@richardmiddleton7770]

Dog attacks?! First I've heard of that! I think that could be simply down to increased population and dog ownership.

[@karenkaren3189]

Cause it’s yummy!

[@zigzag8392]

Weird how he starts at “transnational food companies have a monopoly and use it to spread addictive, unhealthy foods that cause an obesity pandemic” but stops at “I’m not advocating for making this illegal, we should just slap more labels on the packaging.” Why not arrest the board of directors and upper management, and charge their companies for the healthcare costs they’ve externalized? Hold them accountable. Make financialized food criminally unprofitable.

[@fredatlas4396]

@zigzag8392 Absolutely, just look what they've done with sugar in various products. Instead of forcing, coercing the companies into putting less sugar, & using unrefined healthier sugars in their products, they are now replacing the sugar with synthetic sweeteners which it turns out are far worse than sugar

[@sunshinelavender1663]

Because our country runs on big pharma and our medical system profit. If they don’t fund processed foods so we stay sick they don’t make money. The 1% runs all this Education is key

[@marcdaniels9079]

Because that would be patently ridiculous

[@deerheart87]

Capitalism doesn't allow for this

[@billhill9882]

Glad to have an opportunity to communicate with you and others. I know its going back a bit but the 2006 World Cup in Germany. Do you remember English fans drunk Germany dry of beer. I cannot remember one incident of unruly behaviour by English Fans or anybody else for that matter over a 4 week period. Yet on any weekend in the UK the same young men have a couple of pints and want to and do fight each other with extreme repercussions. What are British Brewers putting in the beer in the UK? Maybe if we had the German purity laws here public dis-order would be a thing of the past. Be interested in your thoughts and anybody else's opinion. Bill

[@Anna-jl3dy]

I would suggest, from observation, that the majority of beers bought in bars and clubs in the UK are imported, rather than the British brewed ones.

[@anoshya]

Most people in famine ridden countries would eat virtually anything …no thoughts on gut health or lactose intolerance

[@Wasserbienchen]

I kinda hate the fact that Chris calls the people who developed taditional foods "scientists". We have this fetishization of scientists as if they're the smart and good ones, when we have all the evidence that scientists were the ones who corrupted the food supply. What's wrong with being a mother? What's wrong with being a wife? What's wrong with being someone who cares about your family first and foremost? These people did so much for their families, with love and care and SOUL, something that scientists everywhere like to forget. Chris said it himself - you can't be a 'food scientist' and care about health over profit. Science is cold, clinical, concerned with numbers. Science doesn't deal with emotions. You can take the scientific fact that arsenic is toxic and use that knowledge to save lives or to kill people. Everything that is about love, care, community, etc. is not at all scientific, and that's a GOOD thing. Calling those women who cared for their families "scientists"... frankly, I see it as an insult.

[@aroundandround]

It would be more compelling if his arguments against “strange chemicals” in processed foods were based on a direct scientific relationship demonstrated between them and obesity or other negative health outcomes, and if such evidence existed, where is the FDA’s process that approves them as safe flawed?

[@cassieoz1702]

So many of the FDA approved additives require NO safety data and are Generally Considered Safe. The FDA is run by executives of Big Pharma and Big Food and cannot be held up as having the public interest in mind

[@torifordham816]

If you read his book, there's a whole chapter about the FDA and its approval process.

[@kim-lusteenkamp4866]

Read the book. Also we know the FDA is so lax

[@aroundandround]

No, I’m not going to read someone’s book who doesn’t have any quantitative data to back up his claims in any of his few KZbin videos I’ve already watched.

[@cassieoz1702]

@@kim-lusteenkamp4866 lax?

[@jonntischnabel]

"most people are brought up on formula" what fucking planet does this man live on? 😂

[@iwheretheshoes]

In the UK & other first world western countries (:

[@sarahsnowe]

If you're an adult, no one is forcing you to eat rubbish. If you think real food is too expensive (and it usually isn't if you know how to shop, e.g. pulses, root veg etc.), consider the cost of ill health. I see a lot of people blowing their money on booze, tattoos, piercings, lottery tickets, the latest gadgets, etc. Priorities. If you think you don't have time to cook from scratch, see how much time you can save by not watching screens full of pointless nonsense. Anyway, you can assemble a healthy meal in under half an hour. If you don't know how to cook, learn. Ask your granny or someone else's granny who grew up before this muck was foisted upon us. I can't agree with the good doctor that there are lovely people working in the food-like-substances industry. They've made a moral choice, and it sucks.

[@gijose83]

but now with shrinkflation this is becoming highway robbery

[@AA-iy4gm]

20 minutes in and not much yet on the key issue titled here...

[@Fidelio_Kant]

This is wrong, you have to criticise the people. British food culture and seeing food as a function and not a social interaction is wrong. So don’t pretend to sugar coat it. This country doesn’t want to know that food is more than a function and yes children need to learn from their parents to cook. Cook yes. And not sandwich with crisps! You go to any supermarket and look at what people buy. It’s garbage.

[@opetelkaaluemaan]

turning kids into activists is just plain evil...

[@martinjanecek4950]

get vaccinated

[@emmacassidy8482]

Everything in moderation.

[@Jay37_tech]

What a dumb recommendation

[@Imsurroundedbyidiots]

no.

[@D.von.N]

At 41:40 something, amputations driven by soft drink industry - SUGAR! He again avoided saying it. He constantly keeps avoiding mentioning sugar, WHY? He mentioned glucose/fructose syrup at the beginning, like if it was something totally different from sugar, some of those artificial ingredients our bodies cannot recognise??? It isn't. THAT is sugar. When I sweetened my tea with sugar, I wanted another one. With artificial sweetener, I only had one and finished. Sugar was apparently driving my consumption up. Why is this anti ultra-processed food campaign avoiding mentioning sugar all across the board and blame the lesser villain (aspartame) for all the metabolic troubles? Urban animals are fatter because they don't hunt their food for miles like their wild counterparts, often unsuccessfully. The urban ones simply pick it up from the ground and there is abundance of it! Some people even feed them. Once again, incomplete picture here. These urban animals are breeding successfully, multiplying in numbers, another sign they have abundance of easily accessible food. And to answer the difficult question of Asia (or Aisha, cannot tell), who is to blame: SCHOOLS! Parents cannot all be expert on healthy eating, they often don't have money to feed children healthy meals and tell them about nutrition. SCHOOLS should be doing it. As they prepare children with curricula for further education or work, they should also prepare them to live healthy lives. Nobody else can do it at a national level, only schools. Kids can be very influential when they understand things. Make them understand!

[@suzannejenkins3533]

As a teacher, I’m used to schools being blamed for everything. But good nutrition isn’t the “official message”. So why would schools be teaching it? Look at the official NHS guidance on nutrition. That’s what schools must teach. And it’s absolute garbage. It’s a low fat, use vegetable oils, carb rich diet, avoid red meat etc. So please don’t blame schools for something they are not in control of.

[@Lisimachos]

I agree with you 100% …sugar is poison in every way to our body …start at school,but I remember the junk food at the school of my son , was always in problem with the teachers because of that …so after 2 years,my son took with him ,every day meat and eggs at school ….healthy ,more energy,no fog …not tired..excellent reports / grades ..everyone astonished 😯 😮 …( no sweets no cola or soda at school…no cravings! ) 🎉

[@D.von.N]

Chris is mixing facs with fiction. He was particularly vocal about xanthan gum. Search how it affects our microbiome and results in producing short chain fatty acids, which are beneficial for our gut lining and even blood brain barrier. Similarly for artificial sweeteners and insulin response... that can happen when consumed alone, like diet coke alone on empty stomach, without food. If you consume artificial sweetener along food, this effect he describes at 30:00 doesn't happen, and in fact it helps to keep your insulin levels lower post prandially (that means after eating), when there is less sugars consumed. And it helps to save a lot of calories when switching sugar for artificial sweetener, in moderation, of course. That BBC documentary was also bollocks what they presented there about the study in Italy on rats. That 'human equivalent' was equal to 5 litres of diet coke per day, each day, for a 70kg person, which is rare. But they didn't tell you that there, only mentioning a 'human equivalent', which means nothing, really. They fed the poor rats with up to equivalent of 12 litres of diet coke an only 30% of those rats developed cancer at some point of their adult life (they fed them until either they died or developed cancer), whereas 10% had cancer with zero aspartame. Only 20% occurrence of cancer on the scale from zero aspartrame to 12 litres of diet coke every day of their entire adult life. Seriously, folks, stop making people going back to sugar, which is a natural result of this scare with artificial sweeteners without an appropriate context! That BBC documentary didn't mention sugar in ultra processed food with a single word. Did sugar industry contribute to that piece of nonsense? Because it looks like it. And I have no ties to either industry. I consume small amounts of artificial sweeteners, even if without food, and I don't have any metabolic issues, unlike the rest of my family eating traditional diet with fried and baked sweet goods in abundance. I have a fab blood pressure, excellent blood glucose levels, no fatty liver, or anything of this sort. I am approaching middle age and I do eat ready meals a couple times each week, or crisps and other savoury snacks, that usually go down my throat with some fruit, as I like it this way. Excess ultra processed food is bad if avoiding consuming healthy foods along, which is unfortunately often the case. When going for a ready meal I pick a healthier variety, with vegetables, instead of mere carbs with fats and some meat (aka peperoni pizza or macaroni cheese). Those don't satisfy me as much. Keep a varied diet, eat in moderation, exercise, and all will be good. A little sweetener or xantham gum won't make you deadly sick.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Thank you. Brilliant comment. There is so much crap talked about artificial sweeteners, insulin, inflation, calories don’t matter etc etc Fully support. I wrote a similar content pointing out many factual inaccuracies in one of his other videos. But people just love to hear the latest it’s not your fault and do this extreme diet to solve all your problems.

[@D.von.N]

@@marcdaniels9079 And, BTW, after that initial BBC documentary on Panorama, a couple weeks later NewsNight on BBC had another session on aspartame and basically negating the initial Panorama's reporting, mentioning that same research in Italy. I guess someone complained to them so they set the record straight but without informing now confused public that they messed it up first time. Any wonder why people don't trust media and science?

[@An0nAm0nda]

Waded through 17 minutes of a whole lotta nothing

[@markiangooley]

Fascist! He’s a fascist! Ha ha ha! Name-calling is childish. I won’t do it.

[@izzy_izzy_izzybelle]

when you act like a fascist, you will be called a fascist, because you are a fascist

[@dhayes3963]

Jorian Jenks - Soil Association- surprisingly didn’t get a mention.

[@stepheneastham4713]

Let’s be nice to everyone, except Tucker Carlson.

[@sarahsnowe]

Fortunately for my blood pressure and my intention to remain unincarcerated, I never encounter Tucker Carlson or Donald Trump or Marjorie Taylor Greene or the rest of the American Republican caucus or Rishi Sunak and the Tory rabble or Vladimir Putin or about a thousand other people-like substances I could think of. If I did and I were in possession of a large bag of decomposing fish and rotten sour cream, I would know how to use it.

[@cassieoz1702]

'Hangry' is a manifestation of crappy diet

[@henkhessel3651]

Liked most of your talk. The recommendations of the government almost killed me. Eating only species specific food gave me back my health. 100% carnivore, water and salt to taste and some extra vitD in winter does the trick. No calories counting, no hunger, OMAD - 2MAD. It is even better for the planet. Do your own research.

[@ffi1001]

What are you talking about?

[@henkhessel3651]

@@ffi1001 essentially all the crap from the food pyramid: lots of bread, rice, pasta, beans, 'heart healthy' seed oils, lots of fruit etc. gave me a heart attack in 2016. 2 stents. statins did nothing. It's the carbs and the seed oils that 'll kill you. Vilification of meat: the stuff we ate for 3.5 My is a hobby of the food industry. Every plant we eat now a days is heavily crossbred for taste and sugar content.

[@vatsmith8759]

@@henkhessel3651 Whereas all the animals you eat are entirely naturally evolved?

[@aaronbr2001]

@@henkhessel3651 saturated fat and cholesterol gave you a heart attack not whole grains and fruit and vegetables 😂. And animal products are the worst for the planet in every way

[@sawa1067]

same, carnivore gave me a new life i never knew i could have! i remember eating all day on sugar. but now i don't. bonus it feels good to know that i am not contributing to earth poisoning with pesticides. i feel sad that about the animals. i do my best to only support animals that have best life. why are vitamins adek fat soluable and why can we only get vitamin b from meat? I didn't create the food chain/ecosystem, god did. we feel our best on carnivore so that much be the way god designed. i dont think god approves pesticides and pollution though. those feisty mischievous, disobedient humans! oh and my mental mood disorder, gone with my body odor and inflammation, just to name a few perks. why choose plants when you can feel amazing.

[@irmabronder]

Processed food makes you lazy according to Ayurveda. You will feel not like doing anything. People who eat processed food eat because they need to eat and don't feel like cooking, which has as affect that this will be spiral to obesity and other disease. This body is the temple of God, you need to feed it well with the food that is created by God. That is not everything. The food needs to be fresh, so straight from the farm. But what for farm? An organic farm. A better option is growing it in your garden as you will not use anything else than what food needs to grow. So food needs to be fresh, organic. What else? Locally grow. What grows near you is better for you than from the other side of the world. So fresh, organic, locally grow anything else? Yes, seasonal. This means you are eating food that is good for you at that moment. God grows food that you need at that moment. But as soon as you put a selfish action or greed, you will grow to much with as result that food is processed and canned. With as result that people buy food that is easy and quick ready. But those people forget that this is food that will only benefit the maker of your product, there is very limit nutrients in this kind of food and because of the way of "saving" the overload of food. Food that you eat should not be frozen, in tins, in pots, in packages. Think can I find this like this in nature. If no, it is processed. Ultra-processed food has lot of additives and other things to keep if going bad. Have no scarcity additude, God looks after His creation. But if you think you are better than God, you will eat food that is old or processed food. There is so much goodness in vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds, whole gluten free grains, fat and salt. Meat, egg, milk products are for most people bad as this gets you away from God and want to do things in the world. The world is an distraction world that is full of distractions of the devil. The devil wants to take your mind down. The devil can do that with food. All food has an effect on the mind. So we need to eat food that God made and not the devil (meat, fish, milk, hybridize wheat, eggs, processed food, frozen food, tinned food, ready meals, spicy food, alcohol, cigarettes, added sugars, table salt or sea salt and many more). All the foods that the devil tries you to believe are foods are not foods for our bodies. Learn what is in season, local, fresh and organic at the moment and eat that. Not making your own food that comes from plants is asking for a disease. The devil is happy, as those are already not interested in God because there mind is down by or laziness or activeness in the world. But to be one with God you need a content mind, you get a content mind when you eat a plantbased diet. May this be helpful for you. God created you to love Him only, not the world. Yes, you live in this world in a play of the devil and God. And it is up to us to chose God over the devil.

[@renticat]

What a loads of crap. So god makes all carnivores devil then? Some animals are carnivorous by nature but human also need meat sometimes were omnivorous animals. God is evil then creating animals that can only survive by eating other animals and others can only survive by eating plants which also living things. Only plants whom able to make food for themselves

[@Jay37_tech]

We need fatty meat & eggs for health

[@willalm830]

another hour selling a book

[@panes840]

Sorry i got 14 minutes in and i think thos is drivel. Yes marketing is poweful and people shouldnt feel bad for falling for some of it. But equally as one Dr has put it, "People like to hear good news about their bad habits," and so does he! He can, if he wanted reduced that overweight issue of his. Granted anyome with underlying health conditions, particular medications needs a tailored approach. But hes spouting nonsence for Mr & Mrs Average. Ultra processes foods are addictive. Scientists have made it so People (notcall but a lot) are addicted and tgus dont want to make changes. Those foods are highly convenient too so people find food prep boring, tedious and rather be doing something else because since world war II, that's what's been sold to us. Then we have the problem that nobody now enjoys real food. But here comes the other elephant in the room the marketing around animal consumption. Billions have spent to convince people they need, meat, dairy eggs and anyone WHO DARE SPEAK UP to say otherwise is shunned because people ignorantly believe (through the years and years of marketing) tgats its abnormal to ditch it. Its full of saturafed fat, cholesterol, mammalian hormones antibiotics and to feed the world, trash the planet because people are addicted. Sorry but as a health sciences graduate here, its been made very clear!! Its not just ultra processed food. The calorie density of animal products are crazy!! Nuts are too but you can easily only eat 1oz a day and they have fiber. As for the issue buying leaves 🍃 at the airport i always take my own food to eat in the departure lounge because its cheaper and you are right, no decent healthy food. However they don’t al

[@dustybutcheeks3589]

That’s exactly why I eat meat dairy and eggs because it’s the easiest way to get in whole calories with out eating the processed stuff. I’ve gained 20kg in muscle by cooking food with lots of butter and animal fats which there is nothing wrong with doing health wise because the human body knows how to process it.

[@panes840]

@Dustybutcheeks !!! there is nuance in what you just said. I appreciate your reply and time to read what you wrote. Thank you. But I respectfully disagree on some points. Can someone eat some read meat and be healthy? Yes. Is it optimal for health? Probably not!!! There is nuance. A stick of butter will, in the long term, be potentially detrimental. People are hooked on taste and want to not be a social outlier. Watch this. I am sorry, but reading science unbiased data is key, and unless you go to the scientists doing the work a d/or crunch data as a statistician, can people are left making cognitive bias to align with their beliefs which are not reliable and experiences which are determined by attitudes which again based on beliefs and values which are not stable and change with new experiences. I'm a psychology graduate, too. Studied whole food plant based nutrition twice and basic nutrition at university. Watch this. Brain health kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHyqlqV7atGjaa8

[@izzy_izzy_izzybelle]

this is an extremely biased opinion. you can't disregard our years of depending on animal products, having evolved as a species because we began to cook, farm and process food, just because they're high in fats and whatever. yeah they are, and yeah we NEED that shit, because it promotes our bodies to perform essential systematic actions. i think you have no idea what youre talking about

[@panes840]

@marbelle oh, really...... !!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I better ask for a refund in my health sciences degree, oh and demand a refund from the 2 nutrional courses I've just been on and demand a refund there too and toss to one side some of the health and medical institutions I've been granted access amd privilege to as well. I will rush over to my study right now once I've finished reply to this and throw all the latest unbiased scientific journals in the bin!!!!! Shall I do that just for you??? Well, blow me down!!!! Some random person has told me I've got it all wrong. How stupid I am. While I am at it, I will go and speak to some of the professors and Drs who have taught what I know (who also know Tim Spector here) and demand they stop lying!! ✋️ Omg what an idiot I am. Remind myself to do all of the above and listen to YOU!! Never mind the evidence that is truly out there that the carnivore, paleo and keto dieters like to think with reductionist scientific logic and not overall mortality and longevity outcomes and continue guzzling down high protein and high saturated fat foods laden with cholesterol and let's pretend that certain industries are not manipulating SOME SCIENCE so their profits are not damaged and tell lies about how saturated fat beyond a certain point is truly damaging and that added cholesterol is your friend!!! Utter nonscence, but such rhetoric being peddled makes people feel great about their habits and lifestyle they don't want to change, and the idea of a paradigm shift just unpalatable (pardon the pun).

[@jonathanbowen3640]

Perhaps you should watch the rest of the video not just 14minutes rather than spouting a wall of text.

[@stevendaniel8126]

No...

[@andreawannop8670]

Honestly ...there's something called 'discipline" . There are so many food choices and plenty of natural products Just choose the good ones. Dedicate time to cooking, take your own lunch to work....it's kinda not so hard. It's called laziness and not prioritizing ones own health

[@egris00]

Maybe so, but perhaps you are not taking into consideration the successful effect that psychological tricks and manipulative marketing used by Big Corporation. And also the proven trick of adding a "right" combinations of fat, oil, salt and sugar, the amount that leads to coaxing addictive behaviour. I can't remember the exact program but you can hear about these things on the physicians committee channel. (I have no affiliation, I use it to inform my own health). Look around. Lots of info point at how food industry is exploiting us. Forks over knives and Dr. Micharl Greger first opened my eyes. I'm glad to see the UK following suit in their own way.

[@kahyui2486]

'laziness' is actually a lazy way of describing someone's behaviour. We don't use that word in psychology cos it's a copout for not knowing the reasons why someone isn't doing something. The word lazy implies not willing which is untrue. If u actually watched the video you'd realise your attitude is a big part of the problem. Stop advising people on what you think they need to do. You're not helping anyone. You just give yourself a ego boost. Your attitude is ineffective in actually helping people. Just saying

[@andreawannop8670]

@@kahyui2486 ...yes and I'm "just saying" it's "laziness". I watched the video. I enjoyed the video. But I CHOOSE to exercise and eat well. That's not an "ego boost". Laziness is an attitude. We are all busy, all have time constraints , all face numerous food choices and all have "problems". Just the majority of people want a quick fix and would rather watch telly than cook. Rather buy take out than cook. Rather go to the pub than plan their food menu. ....

[@kahyui2486]

@@andreawannop8670 yes, that's the whole point of the video. You're in the minority. The majority of Britain's struggle with that. Patronising people isn't gonna help anybody apart from your ego. It's called superiority complex, when u invalidate everyone else cos you have the capability to do something others struggle with. You might aswell go up to a heroin addict and say I DONT CHOOSE TO USE DRUGS. That's good for u but what's that gotta do with others? Go up to an angry person and say I CHOSE not to be angry... Bit stupid. The world does not revolve around you. Its irony. You are using the word lazy to describe human behaviour which is a lazy description. I'm just letting you know. It's not a word that is respected in European psychology for a reason. It's ultimately a useless word when describing human and any animal behaviour. It implies unwillingness... But the facts are that many people who are overweight go through many diets in their life only to not maintain it. That's the complete opposite of unwillingness, so the statement doesn't even make sense. Peoples behaviour shows they are willing but struggle to sustain it. How does that correlate to being lazy? You CHOOSE to call people lazy when you could use more appropriate language which is based on truth rather than your perception, like "many don't find it sustainable". Do u also call dogs lazy for eating processed food? Pretty sure the average dog has more energy and willingness to eat grass than you. Is there an issue with this? Or do u need extra ego boosts cos of your low level of confidence

[@bortstanson2034]

​@@andreawannop8670 You watched it but you are non the wiser. These foods are engineered so it is almost impossible to stop eating them. Now you may be fortunate to maybe have never been addicted to them, you may also be fortunate you are not addicted to cigarettes, heroin, cocaine etc but the point you missed is that the industry needs to be regulated just like the cigarette industry. The leading cause of death in the western world is not lung cancer anymore, it's heart failure. 70% of America is obese. It isn't because they're ill disciplined.

[@01123581321341]

super interesting, lots of things to ponder but my god Robin is catastrophically irritating…..