HP EliteDesk 800 G4 Mini vs G5 Mini

[@quincyleepayangga8407]

Thankss, this video really helped me.

[@handmedowntech]

Very welcome and I hope you were able to decide on an EliteDesk Mini

[@---GOD---]

Guys, do yourselves a favor and play it at 2x speed

[@handmedowntech]

Which of the Chipmunks do I sound most like?

[@---GOD---]

@@handmedowntech You sound normal at 1.75x - 2x.... 1x sounds like I'm listening in slow mo

[@handmedowntech]

@@---GOD--- scared me for a sec 😀. Thought it somehow got corrupted. That's just me doing the video in the evening. Maybe I should do them in the morning after my dark roast cup of jo.😉

[@Spetet]

It’s not a knock. You can listen faster than you can talk. I listen to everything at 1.75. It’s nothing against your very interesting video.

[@PuesYaTeDigoTu]

his voice talking about things i dont understand is asmr to me

[@nate5234]

Any idea on whether the power supplies are interchangeable between the G4 and G5, assuming sufficient wattage?

[@handmedowntech]

As long as you have the standard 19.5v 65w 3.33A you can use it everywhere. On my test bench I just have the one power supply and I connect G2, G3, G4, etc. only time you need the 90w is for the 65W units

[@nate5234]

​@@handmedowntech Perfect - thank you!

[@nicomedesmadriz]

Can U explain me more of the graphic card connection. ?

[@handmedowntech]

On the G4/G5 you can install a graphics card - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09FS4X3Y6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or www.ebay.com/itm/374948567132 But I've only seen it be successful with folks using the EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini

[@nicomedesmadriz]

Totally awesome thank U​@@handmedowntech

[@handmedowntech]

Just a reminder that you'll need a 150w power supply

[@thats-rich]

Have you tested storage greater than 2TB, curious to see if 2TB is actually a hard limit?

[@handmedowntech]

Have you heard of a 2TB limit? I would have assumed you could use whatever Windows allows

[@thats-rich]

I read it on the HP site somewhere. It says it for the mini G9s as well.

[@handmedowntech]

Interesting since the largest HP will sell you is the 2tb. The language in the specs is vague on the drives and implies the limit is 2tb because that is all they sell. I don't have anything larger than 2tb to test unfortunately. Maybe other viewers have tried it.

[@thats-rich]

@@handmedowntech I bit the bullet and bought a 4TB NVMe and 8TB sata SSD. Both work perfectly, so no limit after all.

[@handmedowntech]

@@thats-rich nice! Was that for a G4 or G5?

[@okeach]

I have a g2 that came with 1tb stick ssd I want to add the the 2.5 sata hard drive but I don't know the number of pins the sata flex cable holds so am not sure which one to buy

[@okeach]

I try searching Amazon but am only seeing some for with description for dell with 6,8,and 10 pins

[@handmedowntech]

Basically any 2.5 SATA drive will work. I've used ones I pulled from laptops. SATA SSDs from Amazon, eBay, HP, etc. TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 256GB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal Solid State Drive SSD (R/W Speed up to 520/450 MB/s) T253TZ256G0C101 a.co/d/hnRW1kz this is the last one I purchased

[@okeach]

You misunderstood me,I already have a 2.5 drive but there is no sata cable that came in the mini PC i bout renewed one on Amazon but the flex sata cable is not there it was removed and replaced with a SSD for mdot slot

[@okeach]

What am trying to get is the connecting cable for the SSD,the sata with the flex cable shown in your videos,and how many pins is on the flex cable

[@handmedowntech]

The cable has 7 pins plus another 8 pins. But I'm pretty sure the ribbon cable is unique to the hps themselves. I'd recommend checking out drive caddies for the EliteDesk on eBay. Often times the caddy will include the SATA ribbon cable. You might be able to find just the cable also on eBay.

[@ernestgalvan9037]

@ 00:52 That G4 has the coveted USB-C option board!

[@handmedowntech]

Good eye. I'm still trying to think of how I can test the port. Interested in seeing if I can power the unit.

[@MichaelMossmanNZ]

Thanks for a great vid ... at first look, I could have sworn that the G4 looked just slightly wider than the G5, but I guess the interchangeable lids proves that they're the same width I guess =)

[@handmedowntech]

I really like the G5 but HP didn't do much to separate it from the G4. Especially when you can put a 9th Gen CPU in the G5. Like in my other video.

[@MajorisMons]

Can you swap motherboards, let's say I bought the G4 but later on down the line I want to change it with the G5 MB, is this possible? [From the looks of the case, they look identical. I'm assuming it's a practical idea]

[@handmedowntech]

Hmmm, very interesting. The mounting holes would have to be identical but considering how similar the 4 and 5 are then it might work. I personally wouldn't try it unless I got a great price on the G5 mobo. Please let us know if you do attempt it.

[@JoshKasten]

@handmedowntech is any software to control the fan speed curve of any of the HP EliteDesk or Prodesk machines? Looking to put the fan to zero when the system is idle, which never happens, even if the system is pulling 2 watts from the wall. Specifically the HP Prodesk 400 G4 DM

[@handmedowntech]

I know earlier units allowed for setting the fan speed in the BIOS. I know I tried running speedfan on a G3 or G4 and it couldn't see the fans. I'll see if anything turns up.

[@nephy8428]

Just bougut a G5 thanks for all the information

[@handmedowntech]

Very welcome

[@luisbvs]

Thank you for this video, I think I may go for a G4 instead of a G5. But before that one, I have been thinking of actually getting a 705 G4 which is AMD.

[@handmedowntech]

How many cores does the 705 support?

[@luisbvs]

@@handmedowntech 705 that would be a 4 core, 8 thread CPU, but at around $100, the G4 with a 6 core i5 is about $150 and with a 6 core (12 thread) i7 goes above $200.

[@handmedowntech]

@@luisbvs does the 705 support two m.2 slots? Have you thought of trying to get a barebone g4 and then buying the CPU?

[@luisbvs]

@@handmedowntech No, the 705 is closer to a normal G3, but is just a step, I will eventually get the G4 and maybe even the G5.

[@handmedowntech]

@@luisbvs I forget. Did you already have a G2 or G3?

[@johnhudson7055]

Have you tried a 9th gen in the G4? 8th and 9th gen share platforms.

[@handmedowntech]

In my G4 search for CPU video I did try an i7-9700K but the system did not like it.

[@scotttrongkaew]

9500 in G4 work flawlessly without any issue.

[@johnhudson7055]

@@handmedowntech that because it’s a K variant, but any T or non K models will work just fine.

[@handmedowntech]

Interesting - I had read others asking about 9th gen in the G4 and folks seemed to imply it wouldn't work. So most likely when I experimented with a 9700K it probably failed because of the variant - not because it was 9th gen

[@handmedowntech]

Interesting - I had read others asking about 9th gen in the G4 and folks seemed to imply it wouldn't work. Sounds like nothing special was needed on your part though. And this was with the 35W or 65W model?

[@nunito2610]

So 2 nvme 2280 on g5 is ok and only 1 nvme 2280 on g4, is that right?

[@handmedowntech]

@@nunito2610 G4 and G5 are nearly identical so you can have 2 NVME on both

[@gfreeman17]

what does it look like for an HDMI port without VGA. Can you enter the BIOS normally on an external monitor?

[@handmedowntech]

Yes. I have a displayport to HDMI adapter I use on all the units. Just make sure the monitor is on and set to receive input.

[@fredericb6307]

Hi there! I literally bought a G5 after watching all the videos 😅😅. But, I have a question now… My motherboard is exactly the same as this one, but… I don’t have the graphics card connector…. There are the pins on the board, where the connector should be. Ready to be installed. But no connector… Do you think that means that I can’t add the RX560 to my i7 G5?! And… if possible, could you give me some hint to find this connector somewhere? Thanks for your feedback!

[@handmedowntech]

I looked at my EliteDesk 800 G5 again - the beige connector (1 inch long) is between the middle NVME and the fan - you don't have that?

[@fredericb6307]

@@handmedowntechThank you for answering! Unfortunately no, I have no beige connector, just the soldering points where it should be… I made some research on this, and it looks like some motherboards have it, others don’t… with the same part numbers… I don’t really understand why for now. But most importantly, I can’t find the connector itself as a spare part. That’s frustrating 😂. At this point, my better clue is that 65W models can’t have it. But it’s just an assumption for now. Mine is a 65W. It’s a pain to find informations on this so… Thanks for your help 😁

[@handmedowntech]

What does it show as the model on the bottom of the case? Maybe also check other eBay listings for pictures of the inside to see if they show the connector.

[@fredericb6307]

It says « HP EliteDesk 800 G5 Desktop Mini » and not much more… it doesn’t say if this is a 65W but the processor is a i7-8700, 3.2 GHz. I saw the connector on certain boards on eBay, not all. I don’t know 😅😅

[@handmedowntech]

@@fredericb6307 sorry guy. Bummer that there must be some units without the connector and you happen to get one. Would it be worth it to see if the seller has a unit with the connector? Maybe an exchange.

[@clubx1000]

It just doesn't look like enough room there With or without the connector. I don't get why 35 watts like mine have the connector Don't you need more power if you add a GPU not less?

[@handmedowntech]

If you put in the optional GPU you'll need a 150w adapter. I'm coming out with a new video which talks about the giant adapter.

[@gbond-yk9pw]

@@handmedowntech I will watch that

[@clubx1000]

link?

[@handmedowntech]

@@clubx1000 well as it turns out I did order the GPU and installed it on my G4. But try as I might the system would not recognize it. I don't know if it was a bad board or what. The fan on the GPU worked and if I didn't have it plugged in then the system said the graphics card fan was failing. So something thought it was there. I ended up returning it. Maybe down the road I'll try again.

[@demislonzie8784]

what the you can install a GPU on this?! show video

[@handmedowntech]

Yes, there is a GPU you can install in the G4 or G5. I'm hoping to do a video on the GPU in the future.

[@demislonzie8784]

@@handmedowntech nice kinda sad that there's no ebay here in the SEA

[@clubx1000]

24y june

[@shephusted2714]

mini pc are tough to work on and have 'compromises' - not recommended

[@handmedowntech]

Mini PCs are not for everyone but their small size makes them great for low power draw, space saving, and clustering. Plus they are just darn cute and fun to play with.

[@NoEgg4u]

@@handmedowntech Plus, they are easily transportable.

[@mikecar52]

Silly advice. They are easy to work on.

[@temp50]

@@NoEgg4u And this is indeed a huge advantage! Every time a family member complaining about a problematic PC, you can just ask them to carry it over to you for a check and they can easily put it even into a woman's bag.

[@abdulazizaltalhi7866]

11-18 -24 thrift finds a G5 I79700t for $9.99 😃 that's why I'm here .

[@handmedowntech]

The total cost for the G5?? Amazing!

[@gbond-yk9pw]

i can see how a cpu can fit. ITs so big. But I love to see the g5 be put inthe gpu. So you get an extrenal power supply what about heat. space?

[@handmedowntech]

Check this out to see what the GPU looks like - it has its own fan www.ebay.com/itm/335043559176

[@gbond-yk9pw]

@@handmedowntech It so big I just dont see how it fit - there rom for ram for tthe flex slot but this - --

[@handmedowntech]

@@gbond-yk9pw I hoping to get one at some point to test it out. I also wonder what you do for storage.