HUGE 4 Channel on the Dyno! Alphard DB180.4 gets tested!

[@letthemusictakecontrol8388]

I thank you for testing amplifiers like these, Korean budget gems. A lot of us have a diffrent definition of budget compared to others, and are willing to pay more for quality. I have the 180.4 from the Apocalypse line, and they are exactly the same. Their layout also looks identical to the Crescendo C1100.4 which has to atleast, be the same board if not the same amplifier, but it's rated at 300×4 at 2 Ohms instead of the 250 that these are rated at, and the Alphard amplifiers also costs about $100 less. I know that it's a Class A/B which won't be as efficient as a Class D but by looking at the efficiency numbers dual inputs might help it get to that 300 that Crescendo rates theirs at. One more thing, sometimes the screen cuts off too quickly to see both the power numbers and the amp draw. I had to rewind a couple times so I could pause it the exact moment both sets of numbers stopped moving before the screen changed. Thanks for all your hard work, and everything that you do. 👍

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

At low volume, a class d will be more efficient but at full tilt, ab amps are very close to d amps in efficiency.

[@tankdog03ify]

love it man, I got my 200.4 hooked up to 4 deaf bonce M60A_v2 6.5s (200w rms each) and man it gives them bad boys a hell of a 80hz~200hz punch love it, crisp and loud. they make very nice pro audio 6.5s

[@DibeezyTheGifted]

Man I wish people understood about these lol. Same footprint as my AAK-4000'S. Some of the best quality amps out there... Especially for the money. The whole AAK-SERIES= super legit

[@bobit8742]

the explaination about band pass and how to set it correctly is very helpful. I tend to forget this. This one of the video i saved to refer back when my memory take a crap 😂

[@1rexrex]

Its really nice to be able to see exactly what kinda wattage amps are really putting out. Even with reputable companies. Matching speakers with amps true wattage will insure they wont get damaged. (right away anyways) Keep the tests coming. Just discovered my buddy has a pair of Zapco M80s. I just picked up an A/D/S P240 and a couple of Macs, Mc423s. If you get any of this kinda stuff to test, that would be interesting.

[@j.savage1228]

Great video! Alphard is really doing great things these days. I would really like to see a dyno run of my JL Audio 300/4v2 to see how underrated it is at 1.5 to 4 ohms.

[@elsey1976]

Agreed! Have the same amp AND a 300/2 that's going to be part of a build. Would definitely like to see the #'s

[@leroycolejr6336]

I haven't seen an amplifier that big since my power acoustic amp. that's old school for sure I like the design of this amp

[@wreckless_-jl6uu]

Yess.. been waiting on this one.. love deaf Bonce.. my db3 12’s, be hangin!!!!

[@d.j.9961]

How u mentioned a remote in & out, that is why, I ran a relay for my remote wires & tried taking the load off all equipment!!!

[@mpulford311]

I have the Apocalypse AAK 180.4 which is basically the same amp And it's awesome. Runs my 4 Skar PAX 6.5s and my Skar VX4 super tweeters very well. I bought it to replace the Skar 150.4 and I'm glad I did. Awesome video. I was wondering about this amp and now I know. 👍👍👍

[@tankdog03ify]

you should get the deaf bonce m60A v2 6.5s they are little beasts.. I also have the skars but just upgraded a couple months ago, they play from 100hz to 14khz very cleanly and loud, way outperform the skars though.. but the skars are very good for the price tag for sure man

[@mpulford311]

tankdog03 thanks for the tip I was thinking on different speakers to replace the Skar but as you said for the price they are decent.

[@mikegreen5393]

Massive hippo 6.5xxl

[@DibeezyTheGifted]

@@tankdog03ify I run the Sylvester's. More mid bass and clear AF. I've ran a lot of equipment this Deaf Bonce stuff is legit. The whole lineup. From the sa3 woofers to the db4 woofers to the Arnold's, Sylvester's, neo tweeters, and definitely the AAK-2000 through 12000.1 d amps

[@elsey1976]

Of all the people who commented, I'm definitely one of them.

[@robsorgdrager8477]

You sir are correct 😉

[@scottplace7627]

A lot of companies still make large AB amplifiers for the Hi-Fi fidelity as they are big and bulky you can't beat the sound

[@scarr3ll]

Can you Please dyno the US ACOUSTICS Barbara Ann. I've been running mine for a couple of years and love it

[@bobswinehart3646]

Another budget gem. Thanks for the great work.

[@crazy8sdrums]

Glad yer back Ryan...and with BOOM!!!

[@mikeraskin7319]

It's been awhile nice to see another video.

[@aceprime28]

Completely agree dynamic is the most important number to most why ? because most amps are bought for music. this includes Mono amps

[@thrilseker8666]

Would like to see their 200.4 dyno

[@jasonghering4389]

That's the amp I'm about to buy. I'm sure it's a beast

[@abdomination]

I wonder why they don't have the AAK-200.4 any longer.

[@kenalexander1088]

Another amp to consider for my upcoming class a/b build. Thank you sir.

[@hongbitter7142]

Sorry Ryan watched with no pants the whole time...

[@bigblank69]

Pervert

[@todddooley793]

Great amp, love to get one of those bad boys. Great job Ryan!

[@izzyarmstrong98]

hey man awesome amp dyno as always

[@bigblank69]

FIRST!

[@Finga_Trappa]

Budget Gem or Budget Bust hahahaaaa

[@A-bomb-1984]

Lol

[@robsorgdrager8477]

Cheaters never win😎

[@bennyblanco14]

What company is S and I that originally made the amp?

[@bigblank69]

@@bennyblanco14 it's a OEM buildhouse, they design, engineer and build products for a lot of car audio companies.

[@TurboJohn74]

This would be ideal for driving 6.5" or 8" midbass sets.. everyone forgets them. Gem in my mind!

[@jasonghering4389]

I just bought seven d4s s60 mids. So I'm deciding to buy the 180.4 or 201.4. Jp told me the crossfire c7 4k works perfect with them. I figured 300x4 was to much power. He said it's the perfect amp for those mids.

[@randomtube8226]

Notice the bent gain knob? It was off centered. I have a Rockford Fosgate amp that has a bent gain knob. It makes a scratchy sound through my speakers when I adjust it. Surprised that they dont make some kind of caps that goes over the knobs to prevent them from bending over on the bord. Like a tiny ball bearing on each knob for added support. Ive noticed this on several different amplifiers. Just wanted to point this out.

[@jar1zxrcfun75]

Little late but I just found your Facebook page!!!

[@ROTTBOXX]

I've got one and the matching 2k for my new build. And my synergy 4.150x. I might sell off the synergy.

[@danielfox3199]

Great job

[@travisjones1886]

Great video as usual! Glad ur back! How do u feel about the new Rockville k9?

[@alfa7108]

Rockville is awesome

[@travisjones1886]

Do u have them?

[@alfa7108]

+Winwin Winwin yes

[@CLMT619]

This reminds me of old school amps, BIG!

[@alfa7108]

Great vid. Would be great for mids and highs.

[@FinnishArmy]

My head unit doesn’t have any RCA’s and I have no choice either because it’s a Chevy Volt and no company is gonna make a special head unit for that car.

[@billymccormick120]

Love the shirt!!!

[@bigblank69]

It is a classic shirt

[@jar1zxrcfun75]

Looks kinda like my crescendo c1100.4 on controls and gut shots.

[@jamest.5001]

I actually fried the remote turn on output on a head unit, with too many amps... They only do about 600 ma! Just over 1/2 amp!

[@tekkenm2000]

Amp guts look like the American Bass GT30002 2 Channel 3000W Max Amplifier, which is also built in Korea.

[@waynsmith9538]

Oh yeah!

[@jctejeda]

This amp sound clean I love this amp this one and the sundown sax 200 4 my favorites

[@dlochin]

Which one u think is better.

[@jctejeda]

@@dlochin sundown more power the alphard at 2 ohms get hot that's the bad thing the sundown the only bad thing is to big 😜

[@dlochin]

@@jctejeda thanks bro but I think the sundown was discontinued, do you think they would release a new version or should I buy the SAX 125.4 AB.

[@jctejeda]

Darien Lochin I prefer the Alphard 180.4 bro my friend got the 125.4 and the Alphard sound better

[@msh6865]

I have to wonder how big the market is for these massive class a/b amps? Ryan said it himself, he couldn't use it because of its size. Compare this amp to just about any mid level class D 4 channel. The class D amp will be 1/3rd the size, much more efficient and sound just as good at high volume. Full disclosure, I own a bunch of old school Made in the USA class a/b amps myself. But, that has more to do with nostalgia and very little to do with practicality. Still a good test of a big 4 channel class a/b though. Almost a throwback video! Thanks Ryan.

[@robsorgdrager8477]

Sorry man, a class d will never sound as good on good speakers in as an A/B. Yeah they are not efficient and they let half the power out as heat ....but when you want pantara's five minutes alone to play so loud you can taste it without the guitar riff distortion class a/b will get it done.

[@Fly2kill1]

Rob Sorgdrager funny, class D amps have set records in MECA and IASCA SQ.

[@mikeraskin7319]

I'm surprised I really thought the numbers would be much higher than the rated numbers.

[@bigblank69]

I was surprised as well... but not really shocked. S&I rates really close to true output.

[@gregorycarter9352]

Like Big D Wiz and Steve Meade,great content.

[@flatdog691]

Those Russians or Koreans are building some good amplifiers

[@jeffneedstogivejakeaturnon1083]

You tested the ass off that amp. 👍 Seriously though, that amp is assless after your egregious testing. Lol Thanks for the video. Well over six hundred watts dynamic front and rear, bandpass xovers (how rare and cool is that) And that kind of build quality in a four channel for under 400 bux? Dude, that's like a budget McIntosh.

[@justingardner4555]

$370 you say? I think the crossovers are what make it a good deal.

[@tankdog03ify]

Yea, and nice power.. look at there 200.4d, then go watch the sundown 200.4 amp dyno video.. crazy powerful numbers.. glad I got my deaf bonce 200.4, I won't be selling it ever

[@MJ22MJ]

Can you dyno the Skar SK-M4004?? It is their mini series so im skeptical on the numbers its rated for. If it does so those numbers then its a steal!

[@easylooker4889]

Nice Dyno video

[@tankdog03ify]

Did u notice any difference in sound quality from this amp to the skar 200.4d?

[@2010HarleyDynaFXD]

For a class A/B amp that is a killer deal for that power I remember when amplifiers cost over1 dollar a watt most of them are at 5 dollars a watt for class A/B amplifier's I'm sorry but for SQ class D amplifiers suck!

[@SeanOMatic]

Looks like the Sundown stuff.

[@isidrosevier1125]

How would you compare this one to the skar 200.4, I'm debating which to get out of those 2

[@mitchellroberts7954]

The size of the inputs is ridiculous. Actual current draw from amplifiers powering mids and highs on music is wayyy lower than you'd think

[@tankdog03ify]

Where are you buying your deaf bonce amps? The older models?

[@tankdog03ify]

I like this ab amp, but I still love my aak-200.4 beast. but I'd definitely like to try that ab out sometime

[@tankdog03ify]

the 200.4 I have is half the size of that 180

[@tankdog03ify]

+tankdog03 where do u get the non apocalypse version?

[@bigblank69]

I have the Skar version of that board. You will see those results eventually

[@tankdog03ify]

+Budget Gem or Budget Bust do u like the skar 200.4? I've seen the sundown 200.4 results and was very impressed which help me decide I wanted the dB 200.4.. only thing is the amp guts on these board all have that 1 wire that kinda floats around, I don't understand why they couldn't have secured it better..I'm pretty sure they do all of 200x4 at 4ohm which is very impressive

[@tatialo37]

Looks like the audio art amps! Remember those?

[@tcnavPeace]

Will you please test the Focal 5.1200 5 channel amp and also the audison 5.1k 5 channel. Thanls

[@My1560]

Can we get more sub amps..

[@judondarrington4475]

I would like to send you a few Amps from our new company COSMOS AUDIO

[@tankdog03ify]

I'm still waiting for the 200.4d dyno results brother.. I know it's one of the best 4ch available, so no biggy. I just wanna know if the results are as close to the results sundown got on there dyno video or if there AMPING IT UP SUM.. This amp might be comparable to the skar rp150.5ab but I believe the rp is China, and I'm sure the DB is Korean.. the skar, deaf bonce, and sundown 200.4 are identical pretty much except the dB 200.4 has a crossover section from 10hz to 8khz. The others only go to 5khz.. deaf bonce FTW!!

[@bigblank69]

I had it on the dyno, but something wasnt working right on the dyno..... need to revisit

[@codythomas1768]

How about a Memphis mc4.125? That be a cool video. All the M class amps look pretty stout

[@tatialo37]

Look like Audio Art amp from the 90's.

[@QuarteXDesings]

Whats the name of the song that you use during the dyno process?

[@johndesousa7379]

they are test tones for the certified and uncertified test and beats simulating a kick drum for the dynamic test.

[@BiGGBLUNT1]

Audio legion 250.4 next please 🙏🏾

[@greasemunkeyyy]

Deaf bounce is making moves

[@charliefrancis6438]

Yes it is a great amp , but I think my Orion hcca 2000.4 is better and it cost me $450, keep doing your videos they’re awesome

[@minus3dbintheteens60]

For sure! They could have made this thing literally half the size, everything is spaced out so far. I have the HCCA3000.4, it has 8 toroids, 2 voltage rails, puts out 450wrms a channel and isnt much bigger.

[@mannygarcia3962]

Where can I order it

[@Cambalamba]

Can you test machete Ma 50.4

[@stevenyoung3360]

Are you still going to dyno the Soundstream T5.2500DL ?

[@bigblank69]

Hopefully soon.

[@stevenyoung3360]

I have a new one and want to see if it does what people say.

[@Adamhc75]

Hmm... I wonder how this amp compares to the Skar RP-150.4ab? The ratings are very close. I had one a while back and even though it was a great and powerfuI amp I did not like something in the sound signature of it. I couldn't quite figure out what was wrong with the way it sounded. But I ended up selling the Skar and putting my older Kenwood amps back in. I wonder if this had a better Sonic signature than the Skar?

[@tankdog03ify]

the rp150.4 I'm pretty sure is a China amp, the dB is Korean quality.. I own the DB aak-200.4 and it compares to the skar 200.4 & sundown 200.4.. basically all the same boards just different internals and the internals make the difference

[@hectorortega9131]

@@tankdog03ify agreed, Exacty!,

[@letthemusictakecontrol8388]

Not even close!

[@Adamhc75]

@@tankdog03ify I noticed that the Skar Was a Chinese built amp. But then so is the Kenwood. The Kenwood sounds so much cleaner than the Skar. But like you said it's the Quality of the parts that are used. Even my deck is a Kenwood just because I found it sounded a bit better than the competition to my ears. As we all know sound is a subjective matter. :-)

[@dlochin]

Is it worth it to pay more for the sundown? Or is the db jus as good.

[@sansantos75]

This amp would be a respectable for my mids & highs .. are you giving it away or something? I need to find out if I can strap a audio technix AT800.1d with a ct audio AT 900.1 any thoughts.. I compared tha amp & guts & it's pretty much the same amp.. (same company 2).. I want to push max watts on a set of ALPINE type R 12's .. can u advise me ? Thnks love the show

[@christian-op1uj]

Yea don't do that, if you have 2 different amps just wire one amp per sub and don't put them in the same box

[@sansantos75]

The AT800.1D pushes my Type Rs pretty good but I want to get the full almost max wattage out of them.. besides I'm in the market to get 2 new 12s @ 1500rms...

[@mikegreen5393]

Massive hippo XXL 12

[@sansantos75]

I'll look into them mike..👍

[@jermainephillips5179]

369 ain't bad.you couldn't touch a similar sized zapco for that price.👍

[@uptobatentertainment]

Jermaine Phillips and this will not sound as good sound quality wise.. check out the Zapco ST-204 SQ, cost about the same or up to $100 more depending on your dealer / online pricing! I run the Zapco Z3KDII & 150.4 AP & paid prob 25% less than amazon price. The components in most Zapco amps are very high quality but that does come with a cost like you said! Deaf bonce does make quality amps, however the Zapco sound quality & components speak for themselves. & I’m bias obv lol

[@Hammerback0]

I've never heard of DB trying to appeal to the SQ crowd? Look at the DB Ford truck. It doesn't exactly scream SQ.

[@10krms8]

Is that the same amp house where the wolfram 4500.1d gets build

[@bigblank69]

No, the Wolfram W4500 is Zenon. S&I does Sundown, Crescendo, DD, DC Audio, Alphard, Skar and many others

[@10krms8]

Budget Gem or Budget Bust k how about orion hcca line up thanks man

[@themantheman-vo7wd]

Great job I see you're also comedian also

[@drrckhamilton]

Nice!!!

[@highrev90homemechanic67]

Run some 500 watt tweeters off that bad boy!!!!!!!!!!!

[@DaneParksDoghouse1]

Man, you need an extended cab minimum if you want to use that big bastard in a truck!

[@bigblank69]

I had a Tundra extended cab when I bought this and it wouldn't fit In my truck.

[@DaneParksDoghouse1]

DAMN!!!! Nevermind.

[@kevincobb5182]

Please test the skar rp 4 channel 150.4

[@roderickprince2709]

Can this amp push 10 mids and highs

[@ericwarnock704]

Test one of those Alphard 38,000 watt amps. :)

[@TheoneDragon51]

Nice amp

[@elpasocerealkiller]

Pioneer 8604 seems like a better deal?

[@kylevanwinkle2081]

Except no active capability in the crossover sections. And the terminals are less than ideal. This is by no means a steal but it is quality

[@elpasocerealkiller]

@@kylevanwinkle2081 good point,

[@tankdog03ify]

I had the 8604 for 89 days.. I returned it to Walmart and bought the deaf bonce 200.4d, no comparison.. the 8604 has very limited crossover section and it was a deal breaker, the DB is amazingly way more powerful, but not as budget friendly.. but u definitely get what you pay for with DB

[@fleurdewin7958]

I have the Pioneer 8604 too. You cant compare to this Alphard giant amp. The Pioneer unit is definitely less than 1/2 the size of the Alphard unit. You can put it underneath the front seats in any orientation. Plus it is definitely alot less powerful. You have to factor in installation cost too. In the user manual, it is stated that you can use a cheaper 8 AWG battery wire if it is less than 4.5 metres length. For 1/3 the price of the Alphard unit, I cant complain at all. However, there is a new replacement model for the 8604 already, it is the 8704.

[@tankdog03ify]

+fleur'de' win the 8604 is 1ohm capable and gets some good juice for the price, it's just got no crossover section, my dB 200.4d has subsonic 20hz to 500hz so it's bandpass capable plus the crossover goes to 8khz so u can run active, the pioneer cant.. you would have to run passive crossovers.. I might actually buy another 8604 just because it was such a nice amp with great power. but first I'm in the market for another alternator, thinking about the mechman 320, the 370 is so expensive damn

[@hadbl12]

Nice

[@analogaudiorules1724]

its kinda sad that a handful of amplifier manufacturers use a handful of designs just with a different exterior... what happened to individual enginuity.... its also a shame that most amplifiers cheap out on crappy capacitors.... put nichicon upw's, uld, for the supporting circuitry, nichicon muse or ka series, fg series in the signal path... put panasonic fm's fc's, vishay rvi, nippon chemicon.... or mallory's in the power supply stage... its kinda sad really... for that amount of money... id be wiling to spend alittle more for better parts... but when think about it.... at that price there should be nothing but vishay dale or omite 1% or lower tolerance metal film resistor's, name brand semiconductor's sanken, texas instruments Fairchild ect...... even more expensive amps theres always cost cutting measures....

[@WafflosityX]

How much does the amp cost?

[@bigblank69]

369

[@tankdog03ify]

no 200.4?

[@robsorgdrager8477]

All this talk about hrtz is makin me hungry fer a doughnut....😋

[@salvatorelosito29]

Can you test some exile amps?

[@bigblank69]

Do you have their text number? :)

[@salvatorelosito29]

Test any exile amps. I ment ...

[@04tb2]

Can I take my pants back off now 😁

[@elcazadordeembusteros]

No se por que si es de cuatro canales haces en bridge hazlo en 4 ohms para los que no saben

[@jamest.5001]

English in the front, Russian in the back!!

[@MTGEDH]

Orion makes even more power for less money (XTR 1700.4 for $320).

[@bigblank69]

Need to test one... I had a xtr1000.4 i never got around to testing

[@MTGEDH]

@@bigblank69 that is just the smaller cousin. Every XTR amp I have seen go on the Dyno does at least rated.

[@DibeezyTheGifted]

Not even in the same class... I have both. The AAK Amps are by far better. My Orion's protect with minimal clipping, get hot AF ( me electrical is crazy good too) and the Orion bass knob sucks and heat sink is paper thin. Way less crossover capabilities also

[@minus3dbintheteens60]

I have an Orion HCCA3000.4 and it does 450wrms a channel, it runs my 2500wrms HCCA 12 with a 4" coil to max excursion. AND its 67% efficient

[@drunkenbass6128]

Dyno the Soundstream x3.2k4 if you can!

[@claudiocodigoni6588]

Please! Boss Cxx2004 4 channel!

[@trecedaves3159]

Decent value for money.

[@rocblock1310]

Not sure why u do 8ohms ???? Your dyno testing is horrible a lot of other people who test the amps in a way most people understand not the way u do it!!🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@MrTford8]

Wanna sell it

[@delaneo100]

The pioneer 9604 will dust this amp.

[@hectorortega9131]

Nice Amp, but still, I'll keep my Wolfram Artic Wolf 250.4, and it only cost 50 bucks more..

[@thenotoriousrvh6091]

Talk about colussion !

[@nathanielbolden5053]

What the hell are you gonna put that thing on?...what components or coaxials are gonna take that kind of power?...its senseless!

[@lamonteganaway2322]

Eye have 2 180.4 on 4 6.5m7an

[@rocblock1310]

It’s a 4 channel amp why wouldn’t you test it for what it’s intended use is?? 99.9% of people will use all 4 channels and not bridge it!!!🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️