Huge Cheating Scandal is Finally Over

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[@ronaldomaldonado1582]

Glad they finally pulled the plug on this whole scandal

[@npc2153]

Hans butt got saved

[@legendarien1075]

I'm happy for him. All of that negative press must've been a pain in the ass

[@kokowoch]

finally loosened up this tight situation

[@uniquegod1997]

i had to giggle u made me make my feet kick up air in love you i hi

[@bewdeyeswhitedragon]

He was satisfied as a whole.

[@ItsAZues]

This scandal is almost a year old!? Wow, time really flies.

[@gmunny46]

​@RomanisRandomstop existing tho

[@timbertinkers9501]

​@RomanisRandomthank you for stopping my heart hoping this is true

[@WeAreTheQs]

You must be over 25, I feel this

[@LumiNyx_x]

​@RomanisRandomI want to die so

[@xavierwashington5408]

No fr, I was like wtf 11 months??

[@myroncoetzee5228]

I feel sorry for Hans, must of been a pain in the ass getting through all this

[@joseandkris]

Lol, nice one :D

[@Goz969]

Unironically bigger than butt plug pain.

[@themug406]

must have

[@WRLDOfSad]

😭

[@sethayun7191]

Many people were actually misinformed about the vibrator thing and I had people walking up to me saying “did you hear about that guy that cheated with the butt plug??” 😂😂

[@lounirs]

Some channels presented things as if it was a sure thing, I had no idea it was all an allegation. It's really twisted

[@jfr1995]

It was even less of a sure thing than that lol. A content creator came up with it as a joke.@@lounirs

[@lukew6725]

Yeah, because you had unethical morons making claims as if they were facts.

[@Vitorruy1]

​@@jfr1995 It's crazy how someone can make up something as an obvious meme and get it repeated as fact by content hungry hienas

[@jfr1995]

@@Vitorruy1 yep completely agree

[@AdamIsUrqed]

This whole debacle teaches a valuable lesson: anytime you are defeated in life, accuse the victor of cheating then plant a remote buttplug in their car.

[@markalanajon3295]

Words to live by

[@inquisitorofthegodemperor8434]

True Machiavellianism at work

[@nabongobong9155]

What a magnusficent life lesson

[@MrSqurk]

It’s weird that this isn’t the only buttplug cheating story I have heard.

[@monsesh1316]

There's actual irrefutable evidence that he was cheating. Source: my arse

[@dohpam1ne]

One of the big takeaways from this resolution is that Magnus Carlsen has agreed to compete against Hans Neimann in future in-person tournaments. At the start of this whole scandal, Magnus said he wouldn't play in any tournaments that Hans played in, which would basically instakill Hans's career, since every major chess tournament will invite Magnus over Hans if they're forced to pick one.

[@rance2799]

I'm pretty sure his career is still in ruins as people will always associate him with the allegation.

[@Lockdown335]

@@rance2799 The prior allegations dont help him

[@bobchipman4473]

I have lost alot of respect for Magnus over this. He (effectively) accused Neiman of cheating without any evidence and seriously messed up that guy's career over being salty.

[@allyrose6437]

​@@bobchipman4473yeah felt like his ego was hurt when he lost so called cheats.

[@Villosa64]

@@rance2799 he's forever known as the buttplug grandmaster

[@lexslate2476]

Let's be real, the internet would take any excuse to explore the intersection between chess cheating and teledildonics.

[@JosephSmith-jr8zj]

Underrated comment

[@lexslate2476]

@@JosephSmith-jr8zj Thank you. Also, I will take any excuse to use words that amuse me. Like 'teledildonics', or 'disestablishmentarianism'.

[@alexdasliebe5391]

Wireless teledildonics are way better than the olde-timey days of wired teledildonophony , ​@@lexslate2476

[@marioe.]

@@lexslate2476 i still cant believe that teledildonics and cyberdildonics are real words

[@lexslate2476]

@@marioe. The English language is a train wreck intersecting a car crash and a tire fire, but it does get us some fun words occasionally.

[@trumpeterjen]

Whether Hans cheated or not, its says a lot that one other player--Magnus Carlsen, in this case--can cause such an impact this way. He practically tanked Hans' career with one allegation. Hopefully this kind of thing won't become the norm.

[@ShatteredP]

Magnus carlsen is the world champ(for multiple years)while hans has been caught multiple times cheating in online games

[@ISmellMopWho]

@@ShatteredPCarlsen didn't accuse him of cheating online though, he WRONGFULLY accused him of cheating in the live game that he lost to Hans because he has a fragile ego. Yes this probably wouldn't have happened had Hans never cheated in online games, but it also wouldn't have happened if Carlsen was mature enough to realize that he's not invincible and can lose from time to time, which clearly he isn't.

[@jaketerpening3284]

@@ISmellMopWho Well it was kind of sus when Hans explanation for how he prepped for the game was based on events that didn't happen. I wouldn't say that Carlsen's only grounds was that he lost. He has lost other times and not called foul play.

[@meciocio]

​@@jaketerpening3284as this guy said Magnus was aware of Hans cheating online in his younger years that's why he decided to make that allegation based on his ego. To this day, there's no evidence that Hans cheated in that game nor that he ever cheated in over the board tournaments. Which would be very difficult to pull off than in online games.

[@Lanoixsette]

@@jaketerpening3284 i honestly think that he didnt prep at all and went in raw yfm? and just had to fib prepping bc he didnt want to SOUND like a cheater yk?

[@Joseph_Schmungus]

Crazy how it took this long for this to finally wrap up.

[@quartdude]

NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY KZbin! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯

[@evie9075]

the bots🤦‍♀️

[@the_ejumper_0804]

Bro the video came out 2 minutes ago

[@klonoafan2012]

God these bots are so annoying and youtube is doing jack to stop it

[@Joseph_Schmungus]

@@evie9075 I’m not a bot, I looked at the video as soon as it came out, then made a comment so I could be one of the first people here. Kind of dumb, but I think it’s cool to get to something first.

[@terrycraft6500]

I think the most impressive part about the scandal is that Always Sunny was able to put out an episode on this so god damn fast.

[@paddyhassett3577]

Totally agree, for me that episode is my personal favourite (from the new season)

[@joenoodle6914]

@CrewmateComplexClan good for you :)

[@p6v665]

thats what happens when youre a nazi

[@p6v665]

they call it blitzkrieg

[@FeedingKittens]

@@joenoodle6914 you're talking to a bot

[@proarch9659]

"Once a cheater, always a cheater." has always rubbed me the wrong way. That's basically implying that the person can't ever grow and change as a person and will always make the same mistakes forever.

[@HighViscosity]

Second chances, most often, are best reserved for mistakes. Cheating isn't that. It's an intentional and damaging breach of someone's trust. Strangely, for as common as it is, I've never heard a 'good' reason to cheat that I could understand. It usually boils down to one partner feeling they're lacking something like affection. You know what your recourse is, then? You break up. That's it. If you can't do that, then you are simply a coward. Only the worst of us can find rationale behind cheating, and if they can once, it's not outrageous to imagine they would again. That's not the same as saying they can't change, but you shouldn't expect anyone to have to throw in behind someone who's already shown they can be duplicitous. Some things in this world are unforgivable. If you break someone's trust, their defenses go up. If you want to be a better person, you shouldn't need a chorus telling you to do so. If you can't grow otherwise, you probably weren't capable of growth in the first place.

[@hish33p32]

​@@HighViscosity bro/sis, you're coping. There's a big difference between cheating in a romantic relationship and cheating on a sport game.

[@ameribano8910]

I’m glad it got all resolved and hope that Hans and Mangus have long great careers

[@therainman7777]

Mangus 😂

[@jebbush4godemperor285]

I don’t I’m not super into chess but mangus having such a fragile ego to accuse someone of using a butt plug to cheat. I have no respect for the guy

[@theberserker_of_falconia]

​@@jebbush4godemperor285Agreed he need to prove himself that mangus guy just a coward and a cheat.

[@charlesreid9337]

@@jebbush4godemperor285 he isnt the one who came up w the buttplug bullshit the "chess media" ran w that onr

[@natsugineo6695]

​@@jebbush4godemperor285 Literally nothing from your statement is true. Magnus didn't accuse Hans of cheating, only refused to play against Hans in the future (which he probably suspect Hans for cheating but the whole cheating accusation and butt plug thing was from the internet). There's a lot of things that point toward Hans cheated. On the other hand, the only thing protecting Hans is that there is no DEFINITE proof.

[@ryanreviews8566]

the rep damage magnus did to this guy is irredeemable 😂 but having a history of cheating just made it too easy lol

[@jaxsazerac4904]

Yeah he should sue Magnus. Dude took a loss so bad that he claimed his opponent had a vibrator in his ass. 🤦

[@ex.O]

well hans had a reputation not that old before hand and not a reasonable carer to hold his new title, also not guilty isn't the same as innocent although in business nothing really matters I guess.

[@bobchipman4473]

​@ex.O still, he made these allegations without any evidence at all which was extremely reckless and practically defamatory.

[@Lockdown335]

The prior allegations dont help him

[@LampHatScott]

Some people don't realize that anyone can be beaten. Even the greatest people at their craft can be bested by someone else.

[@HeyThisIsBrian]

"We damn near revived Oppenheimer to build a functioning chess bot butt plug" is not a sentence I thought I'd be hearing today.

[@somegalulbad642]

>best player in the world >starts to lose one time >get mad and accuse guy of cheating

[@suggondees4882]

Magnus doesn't accuse people ever. He gets beat from time to time and his responses always were positive and complimenting the opponent. Even way before this hans thing. It's just that hans has a very skeptical record with him being having a 100% accuracy in a couple games back to back i forgot how it was exactly but it was I think way better than magnus but idk

[@somegalulbad642]

@@suggondees4882 blud is willing to destroy a person's career just cause he lost

[@donfizzle22]

Hans and Magnus are the most “I play chess for a living” names I’ve ever heard.

[@darrentheshagmastertill]

Hans Neimann is going to create vibrations across the Chess World with his return

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

I didn't ask, but I made a Hilarious video of a woman crying about her dog being put down because I make better content. 🤣😂.

[@TheElbowMerchant]

The Shagmaster is also a chess aficionado? Truly a gentleman and a scholar.

[@crypticchris8812]

@@ChrisShafferOfficialbots are wild

[@IR-Fan]

I actually misread "return" with "rectum"

[@jjthe]

Unfortunately I don't think that his career will entirely recover

[@remingtongagnard4442]

The accusation of cheating coming from such a figure in the community is a big deal, massive reputational damage. Prior online cheating really makes the water muddy in Magnus/Hikaru's defense, but it's not proof

[@Leo0718]

We are just now hearing a new rule coming from FIDE. No one who has ever been a child is going to be invited into tournaments anymore. Too many cheaters.

[@iggywow]

@@MamadNobari would be a legitimate reply if Mads Mikkelsens character had been a convicted online predator

[@SweetAHE]

"The only way to win a chess match is to not play at all, because it's a stupid game made for the elite. Like golf. Same concept." ~Me, 2023

[@TheSuperappelflap]

right, so anyone can just cheat if they want to, because even if they get caught, they wont be banned from competing. and then they can just cheat again, and the evidence is "inconclusive" and its not fair to their career to ban them. even though it has been conclusively proven they did cheat in the past. it doesnt matter that thats unfair to the careers of everyone who doesnt cheat. you can either have a sport where you ban proven cheaters for life, with a few false positives, or you can have a sport where everyone is blatantly cheating and then straight up denies it. see: professional cycling.

[@HilbertXVI]

​@@SweetAHE Most smooth brained take in this whole comment section

[@angrykagg421]

So a friend told me about all this a couple months back and it is wild. The biggest problem with this guy was his reputation for cheating he did while playing chess online and the inconsistency he showed during certain matches. The later part could be over looked as simply being human, but his history of cheating online couldn’t. The butt plug thing is hilarious, but we will never know. Honestly the good take away is that people make mistakes and are more than those mistakes.

[@swe872]

the actual theory was he payed a magnus team member to get his prep, and prepared against it with a bot, which isnt that weird and has probably happened a lot under scene

[@ib1s137]

It was a combination of his inconsistency and absurd accuracy in some games, having consistently 95%+ accuracy in high depth chess engines. Which is higher than anyone ever in the world.

[@orenalbertmeisel3127]

​@@ib1s137those accuracy numbers are inaccurate and dare I say nonsensical. "Chessbase gives a 100% engine correlation score for a game where, for each move, at least one of the three engine analyses uploaded by Chessbase editors marked that move as the best move, no matter how many different engines were consulted. This method will give 100% to games where no singe engine would have given 100% accuracy to a player. There might not even be a single engine that would give a player over 10% accuracy!"

[@AChunkyDog]

Imagine ruining someone's life because you lost a board game.

[@anonym6467]

A board game where a couple hundred of thousands of dollars are on the line. Also, he did cheat, at least in the past.

[@AChunkyDog]

@@anonym6467 So you're telling me he's a sore loser. Got it.

[@FrenkieWest32]

ruining someone's life? Okay dramaqueen.

[@AChunkyDog]

@@FrenkieWest32 Eeeeeeeyeah. Dude built up his reputation as a world class chess player, only to have his passion and career halted by a sore loser. Prove me wrong.

[@FrenkieWest32]

@@AChunkyDog cheated, lied about it, got caught, cheated again, lied about it again, got caught again, cheated again. Wow, what an amazing reputation he was fostering.

[@matsuri3423]

The same thing happened in the Japanese chess scene, where one of the best player suspected an opponent of using AI in the middle of a game. However, no one could prove his cheating. Now, a lot of people are criticizing the player who started suspecting him, as his career is ruined, just like Hans.

[@thegamerfe8751]

Hey at least they actually held the accuser accountable unlike Magnus.

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

I mean Nieman admitted to cheating in other games so he isnt soo innocent in the end

[@peaceweapon1933]

Being a sheep must be a Japanese thing

[@bendover7841]

​@@thegamerfe8751Magnus is considered the GOAT. He brings a majority of viewers to the chess scene. He's untouchable.

[@Leo0718]

@@fritzschnitzmueller3768 When he was 12 years old, online. People really act like this is a 80yo GM that cheated his way into a career. He cheated once when he was a stupid kid. Niemann is not even 20. It's not unreasonable to think that people grow and mature over time, specially during their teen years. The matter of the fact is that in chess no one is untouchable. Old GM will eventually be bested by younger players. It happens in every single sport. No human being is infallible.

[@Aritis]

I honestly wish this never truly ended

[@LuisSierra42]

This was the sequel we needed for The Queen's Gambit

[@JunkBondTrader]

it didn't, truly end. The validity of that game is, and will always be questionable.

[@willevensen7130]

@@JunkBondTraderI think it’s pretty clear that he won that match with the findings now.

[@TuShan18]

Well, look at the walking dead. That show was stretched out so long that nobody cared when it ended. This one on the other hand came to a satisfying conclusion before it was able to overstay its welcome.

[@onewithsocks]

​@@LuisSierra42 The King's Buttplug

[@PairOfSocksGaming]

i wouldve been shocked if they found something, this is exactly how it shouldve ended

[@crowswatching]

cheers mate great watch made my dinner 100% better

[@Nateylion]

In the past year Hans had only lost 20 rating points despite only being able to challenge one player that had a higher rating than him. Having to only versus lower rated opponents for a whole year is essentially rating suicide and somehow he came away mostly unscathed. Gotta give him props.

[@69nites]

41. He broke 2700 grinding people much lower rated than him as well. More importantly, his average accuracy since the scandal caused increased security has dropped in a significant way despite not facing the absolute top competition. I think it's more likely that he was playing far above his actual level for a short period than actually cheating, but he has returned to the level of play that is normal for him. Outside the top 50, not a super gm, but a very solid GM.

[@cngotham4111]

​@@69nitesIm always gonna be sus if this situation. It's hard to find someone cheating on chess in real time after the fact. So it doesn't surprise if he was cheating that all evidence of it happen is gone

[@hi1itsme]

@@69nitesalso, everyone misses the fact he started to play accurate after the opponent made sub par moves. His punish game is probably just amazing.

[@nic732]

@@69nites yes, surely the kid was playing 400 elo above his usual level while looking like he took too many mushrooms, he was jittery not paying attention to the board.. beating magnus like he is not even thinking about it lmfao

[@windy8544]

@@nic732 and forgot his moves immediately afterwards just like a normal honest player

[@watermelons79]

Personally, I still believe he had a mirror on the ceiling so he could cheat by seeing Magnus’ side of the board through the mirror. Now it hasn’t be confirmed, however, mirrors are easy to get, just think, how hard would it be for him to go to Walmart and tape one up before the match?

[@leeboy26]

Thankyou. I've been telling people since this happened that with a ceiling mirror he could see if Magnus was bluffing with his pieces, perhaps even stashing a Queen or two up his sleeve.

[@Friendlyneighborhoodgarbagebin]

You think they didn’t check for that shit?

[@aoibheall55]

​@@Friendlyneighborhoodgarbagebin...

[@skyrat1896]

​@@Friendlyneighborhoodgarbagebin you're a smart one.. arent you..

[@Friendlyneighborhoodgarbagebin]

@@skyrat1896 since it is an easy option they would obviously look for one of those things first

[@runa_7022]

also i think what actually happened is there was a "mole" from magnus's side, giving hans the opportunity to study his opener when he hadnt used it yet, cheating is always a possibility as technology is always advancing, but i think its also equally possible he just had someone tell him what to study

[@whatever1538]

Nah, the butt plug sounds more reasonable and realistic to me.

[@LordZanas]

Isnt Chess a spectator sport? Is there anything preventing Hans from watching future opponents past matches to get an idea for their playstyle?

[@swe872]

@@LordZanas Thats the problem, in this high level chess there isnt such thing as a playstyle; also the thing that made this weird was that magnus has such a fucking obscure prep something he has never played before so there was no way niemann could know even know an idea of what magnus had for opening/midgame; unless.... well what the other guy said, there was a mole on magnus team which is actually the cause since soon after that some members of his team were actually fired. Im actually disappointed critikal didnt even cared to read a bit about the drama and stayed with the info that twitter gave him.

[@josephking132]

I’ve been holding my breath waiting for this to be settled

[@Joshua-gc4ps]

No way, I’ve been thinking about this for the past months so glad you updated us.

[@quartdude]

NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY KZbin! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯

[@benta2103]

buttplug cheating scandal is a phrase I thought I would never hear in my life

[@weaponizedglitter69]

We can all agree we are better people for it

[@carson784]

A sharp game with a wild opening that ultimately ended in a draw

[@chrise8275]

Who knew that such a quiet game could have such massive drama!!!

[@sageof6pandas233]

Truly a story to shiver our butholes and tickle our cheeks

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

I didn't ask, but I made a Hilarious video of a woman crying about her dog being put down because I make better content. 🤣😂... .

[@ratkaslana]

Bruh 😭🤣

[@sutton9000]

Bro these replies need jesus

[@BrotherMax6]

@RomanisRandomguess I’m dying then. At least I’ll die knowing I didn’t subscribe to your channel.

[@sageof6pandas233]

@@sutton9000 pls help

[@shubashuba9209]

Either Hans Niemann used mission impossible level technology to cheat or Magnus Carlson and the entire chess community conspired to defame an innocent man. Both movie worthy.

[@exal1504]

There’s a chance that there was a mole in Magnus’ circle, the main point of speculation was Hans miraculously studied Magnus’ opening line (which Magnus had never opened with prior to the match) the morning of, as he stated in a post game interview. Perhaps Magnus did that to try and prove/flush out the collaboration

[@princessaria]

Those are not the only two options lol. It is equally possible that Magnus simply believed he cheated because of the circumstances (specifically him apparently preparing for an opening Magnus has never used in competition and having suspicions of a mole), and that everyone else looked at it and went “yeah, that’s valid.” Then it came out that Hans did cheat in online games, which added even more justification to those doubts of a legitimate win. I don’t think any of the parties actually involved in this situation thought he used cutting edge tech, they thought he simply knew the opening in advance, which makes it a lot easier to prepare for.

[@wakannnai1]

​@@princessariaCheating online and cheating in a real game are two different things. It does not indicate real life behavior by any means. Many people would be comfortable cheating in an online video games with no real stakes (other than a ban) but would not do so in real life. There was no indication or evidence that Hans Niemann ever cheated in a real life tournament. This was always used as "evidence" to muddy the waters in order to support dubious claims of irl cheating by Magnus Carlsen. There was never any evidence of cheating as well. Magnus Carlsen should never had made unsubstantiated claims like this publicly and should have been bought up in private to the Tournament Organizers. Nothing claimed here by you is any indication of cheating. Hans Niemann getting lucky in his preparation is just that. Him getting lucky. The chess community did him dirty to suck up to Magnus. It's pretty disgusting if you think about it.

[@lemonglataitor2123]

​@@wakannnai1simp 1000

[@saybrowt]

The thing is Niemann isn't "an innocent man". Niemann has cheated in the past and admitted to this. What he's admitted to is that it happened twice. All Carlsen *said* (don't get me wrong he implied a hell of a lot more) is that he thinks Niemann cheated more often and frequently than what Niemann has admitted to.

[@thicclegendfeep4050]

Gee ain't it funny how time slips away. Didn't think the scandal was that old.

[@lv.99mastermind45]

"Put our differences behind us" After accusing him of having things in his behind

[@T24LIFE2]

Imagine getting called a cheater for winning and almost losing your entire career

[@cngotham4111]

I mean if you look at how he played he's not on Magnus level,cheating past and then wins. I'd call bullshit to if I was Magnus it's still hella sus but it is what it is.

[@dooflydetailguuy4349]

​@@cngotham4111he saw Magnus was playing a lot of Catalan online when he wants to play offbeat openings so he said he studied Catalan just that morning. Seems fair too.

[@ktxkunta]

@@cngotham4111 lord for bid hans had a better game than usual or magnus just had a bad day, feels like the whole pro chess scene is very toxic.

[@Priyanshu9056]

​@@ktxkuntaHe made things worse for himself, said that he prepared this specific line before the game, turns out that magnus has only played that line only once iirc, also that cheating history didn't help.

[@nothingisitchingme5874]

@@ktxkuntamagnus seems like a sour bum

[@ucd949]

You know the whole situation is wild when Always Sunny makes an episode based on it.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

That penguinz0 guy is a chomo punk

[@Drifter1989]

@@MamadNobariConsidering last season also had episodes referencing real life events, it was probably intentional. Another episode this season was the inflation episode

[@elmok]

Wait, always sunny is still going on?

[@Baconator96]

Genuinely did not expect this one to HAVE a conclusion

[@treyouth2834]

Appreciate the quick lore recaps lol

[@Mandate_of_Heaven]

can’t believe that chess actually has scandals to speak of

[@quartdude]

NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY KZbin! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯

[@IonicHawk]

Yeah, usually the chess speaks for itself 😂

[@Sleary]

The bots 💀

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

I didn't ask, but I made a Hilarious video of a woman crying about her dog being put down because I make better content. 🤣😂.

[@TojiFushigoroWasTaken]

​@RomanisRandomall this did was made me leave a couple of hate comments and dislikes on your pis poor attempt at being a youtuber....happy?

[@hanaehanaess642]

So imagine ur playing a game and they humiliated u by saying ur cheating but also cheating with a plug this extremely humiliating

[@mitchmarq428]

Hans is going full villain mode and I am here for it

[@paolocompagni9952]

i just love how the background progressively has evolved with the months

[@Eorthstapa]

It's honestly not surprising how anal chess players can be, but this was a wild situation to begin with. It will be interesting to see what comes of it, or if people will keep making accusations to provide a pain in the rear for Hans.

[@waycnf7229]

hehehhee... anal...

[@bruderschweigen6889]

Very clever

[@victormanzella933]

I'm confident hans will climb out of the hole he's in

[@carpenoctem3257]

Iduno man, chess news isn’t interesting to me. I don’t see what the buzz is about.

[@ScubaFanatic60]

Charlie, i absolutely love your videos because of your content and turn of phrase. Keep it up!

[@ItsAGhostParty]

On the whole, I'm glad we can put this asinine situation behind us.

[@cheggycchig]

I just got an ad before this video that was also a Charlie advertisement for opera gx or something or other. I legit thought the video had started and was like "When did Charlie start his video with ads???" then I saw the skip button. LOL

[@sunnydaze905]

Magnus will never apologize and his fanboys would die before admitting wrong

[@pineapple7024]

“Like the man with the yellow hat, my george was getting curious” was the most unhinged statement I’ve heard in a while

[@Akkarin412]

I’ve heard so much talk about how he cheated but never heard anyone share any evidence that he actually did cheat.

[@nullskey8370]

thank u for the update

[@adamarnold3893]

This is one of the chess cheating scandal of all times

[@quartdude]

NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY KZbin! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯

[@adamarnold3893]

@@p-__ nuh uh

[@adamarnold3893]

@@quartdudedid you drink the moist potion at 3 am

[@ashercd6487]

5 bots 💀

[@adamarnold3893]

@@ashercd6487 I'm starting a collection

[@chasemoore5256]

I don’t get how Magnus Carlsen doesn’t get any flack for what happened to Hans career, considering it seems like he just couldn’t accept losing, and had to make Hans out to be a cheater

[@Hyzayn]

Im shocked as well, no one seems to care, its insane

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

I'm convinced that had something to do with the settlement in some way. Magnus agrees to brush it under the rug and Hans gets paid out what he lost as a result. As long as Magnus isn't raising a stink anymore, Hans wins.

[@Dovahkiin049]

I think a big part is that Magnus has lost matches before. He’s not exactly undefeated, so it at the very least doesn’t seem likely that he’d just call someone he lost to a cheater out of pettiness.

[@porky5567]

yeah big true this -rep for me with magnus

[@ast9052]

Cause that mf is just too good at chess

[@spoogie4438]

Didn’t expect this drama to get the neutral ending…

[@AZREDFERN]

Wouldn’t it be just as easy to hide a haptic engine in the heel of a shoe?

[@sharkgirl42069]

this guy covers literally any topic and it's always great

[@SnoppleWopple]

Nuh uh

[@riccardodellorto4267]

He is a chess GM, after all

[@DWAC]

​@@riccardodellorto4267Charlie is? Like for real?

[@Grizzy6122]

@@DWACduh, no other way he would’ve been able to beat xQc in six moves like that

[@Curiooos]

this is just an always sunny episode

[@MustangPrudence]

Also probably wouldn't have gotten to this point had Magnus not reacted in the manner he had.

[@jawvey5363]

this story was like the most random thought someone can have

[@redlighting844]

I feel like if it was online, then yea they would have had grounds to believe he was cheating, but to seeing how the event was in person face to face and he has 0 past cheating scandals in person events, makes everyone who was against him have 0 actual evidence

[@LuciferMoringstar999]

What. So you think a guy with a history of cheating wouldn't cheat again. Just because he has no past of in person doesn't mean anything when you've shown you'll cheat where its easiest to do it with little to no repercussions.

[@redlighting844]

@@LuciferMoringstar999 I never said he couldn't cheat, I'm saying there no way for someone to cheat IN PERSON, without it being obvious. Easily he can cheat online but that's not what the issue was about, it's about whether or not he cheated in person

[@redlighting844]

@@LuciferMoringstar999 and as u said, he would cheat where it's easiest, so doesn't that mean he, legitimately, beat one of the best players in the world with his own skills then?

[@LuciferMoringstar999]

@@redlighting844 you said it would understandable to accuses of him cheating if it was online since he has a past of cheating online, but since its in person his past holds no weight, which is stupid, because even if its harder to cheat in person, if someone has shown to be a cheater when things aren't that serious or there isn't anything on the line, then they would mostly cheat when it is serious and something is on the line.

[@redlighting844]

@@LuciferMoringstar999 some of his online cheating stuff had stuff on the line i.e money etc.but each event has different precautions set up to stop/ catch cheating and also y there's people who watches them to make sure they aren't just suspiciously looking around someone and somewhere compared to online. Which is y I said his cheating online shouldn't be a factor when theatter is an face to face match

[@R3dCol0r]

Look at the end of the second paragraph which states: "...and they agree they should each be able to talk openly about their views." Key component if you ask me.

[@YenaD15]

"Group hug in the shower" had me rolling 😂 Love the commentary

[@TonkyTronicus]

"...the whole situation is behind him." You don't say, Charles.

[@anxofmyown]

I was in rehab when this all started. I work there now. Life is wild.

[@feverpyretic]

I had forgot... and I resent you for reminding me. 🤣

[@Alleeto]

Funny thing is that after that, professional chess players are going to be checked for instance of plug before each tournament.

[@PuckADV]

The ending I thought we’d never see, this isn’t Hollywood people

[@shampooer]

i started watching charlie when this scandal broke, and seeing it come to a close is so perfect

[@csMrRice]

I needed this conclusion

[@IndieHorrorWilly]

The bad boy of the bong cloud 😂

[@skyxr2406]

Charlie never fails to keep my family hostage

[@quartdude]

NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY KZbin! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯

[@oliviawulff]

WHAT

[@ChrisShafferOfficial]

I didn't ask, but I made a Hilarious video of a woman crying about her dog being put down because I make better content. 🤣😂.

[@Zelurpio]

only one other reply isnt a bot comment

[@sillyboy12.]

guys i think im gay

[@Amir24901]

So they ruined his career, then when they were losing they are like “calm down guys, we chillin”

[@TheScience69]

He wasn't cheating. He was using the forbidden jutsu.

[@bennifer6203]

the only solution is a rematch

[@npc2153]

When court cases are played perfectly they are a draw. ~ Hikaru probably

[@Donnie_P]

Those first 15 seconds are crazy 💀

[@caningospeaks7653]

Finishes? Nah its bout to turn into a whole villian arc

[@santijvidela]

If It wasn´t for the differences in the backround, I'd be convinced Charlie films all his videos the same day. He looks the same every day, and I'm all for it.

[@Dhovakim]

He's like Homer Simpson in that way

[@alberteinstein1015]

I don't think this is over, but I'm glad we can see a really thick silver lining to this grey cloud.

[@IIIBODYIT]

Bravo

[@MilesTFBaxxter]

It also doesn't help that Hans seems like a deliberate Shkreli-Musk type bad-boy stinker. With how he acts it's hard to feel much sympathy, and easy to believe he'd deliberately cheat.

[@francoGomez111]

Except he actually cheated before

[@mash2481]

Bet he used the old, “look over there” nice.

[@scorcher117]

Is them giving him payment as compensation for the settlement really a surprising thing? That seems like a very believable and no nonsense scenario.

[@markelscott100]

Not what he means hes saying it must've been a crazy amount due to the way they jeopardized his career

[@ande5460]

​@@markelscott100no way it was a crazy amount, if anything. Hans would have certainly lost the case if it went to trial.

[@joseislanio8910]

​@@ande5460it if went to trial, they'd have to prove he actually cheated, which would be near impossible

[@kourii]

@@ande5460 that's a strong statement

[@SweetAHE]

THIS

[@diegovargas5472]

Finally the much anticipated conclusion

[@theginger5058]

It’s always sunny was able to spoof this whole situation before it finally wrapped up

[@unsane604]

It's a happy ending for only one person, the one who was accused.

[@thegreatynot5049]

Imagine having your carreer almost ruined because your opponet was a sore loser. That's basically how I view this drama.

[@VentingPoem]

Makes sense tbh. Magnus was taught by Kasparov who did the exact same thing to topalovs career. I guess this sort of behavior gets passed down

[@reginaldcampos5762]

Yes! Let's emphasize that Magnus lost in just a few moves by opening badly and QUITING almost immediately when Hans responded logically. He purposely stunted himself because he underestimated his opponent.

[@norbico17]

I love how yall are ignoring the fact that hans has cheated waay too many times beforehand, online or not, cheating in money tournaments is cheating.

[@candynike897]

​@@norbico17Likeee, they're basically ignoring the facts that there was actual evidence of Hans cheating and even on the post-game interview, Hans couldn't even explain how he defeated Magnus.

[@FoodIsCrack]

​@@candynike897nah you don't get it, sometimes you just accidentally are the best in the world at something. Einstein was famously unable to explain what e=mc^2 means once he'd come up with it

[@Unused328]

It’s been so long, but it’s finally over.

[@josefvalenta4341]

I'm honestly still convinced that he didn't play fair, but I'll also admit it's solely because he's acting like every single cheater i met ingame, not that I have anything to to actually latch onto

[@longphan4691]

"Did you miss me?" That is totally a reference to Moriarty of BBC Sherlock 😂

[@cartilagehead6326]

People initially balked at the $100 million in damages that Niemann was demanding, but it makes sense in the context of Carlsen's own net worth which is like over $50 million right now in his early 30s, and could probably double over the rest of his professional career just through investments and market returns, etc. The argument goes that since Niemann beat Carlsen in such a public and high profile match, he has a credible claim to having been denied a similar career trajectory. It will be interesting to see what happens to him now as a cleared professional player WRT his baggage but at the very least he'll make the game interesting for a while

[@LTV746]

They would have settled at least 10-20 mil

[@theandice8152]

No, it's just a case of demanding way more than you know you'd be entitled to in the hopes of claiming at least some small percentage of it.

[@kiazone94]

"What if's" like that don't go very far in court. Suing for damages generally needs to have something concrete-ish tied to it (lost wages, pain and suffering, medical expenses). The possibility of career trajectory that is impossible to predict is not damages.

[@reginaldcampos5762]

​@@theandice8152well, that's how you do legal battles. You go over the top and try to bring it down to a reasonable deal. Because you want to win without putting your fate in the hands of a judge who may or may not favor you.

[@ODMXypher]

Magnus Carlsen was already rank 1 in the world when he was 19 while Hans peaked at rank 31. They really aren't comparable as players.

[@seapigoinkoink]

Thank you as always Charlie, for giving me the 6 o'clock news update on the things I truly care about. When this story broke i got hard into chess for like a week. Ahh the internet. Such a delightful hive. Thank you for providing closure on things i forgot about Xo casual human ❤

[@noam300896]

A vending machine in his room.

[@jakesstatefarm]

Wouldn't be surprised at all if he got nothing but that public statement and being reinstated. It's incredibly difficult to win a defamation suit even when there is clear damages.

[@ande5460]

100% agree. This is really the best he could have hoped for.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

you need to have a career in the first place to sue for damages. this is a kid who was already banned from playing online for cheating. he would probably get negative money from a lawsuit.

[@charlesreid9337]

@@TheSuperappelflap do you flat out make shit up irl too or is it just on the internet. Nieman is in the top 100 chess players on the planet

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@charlesreid9337 and he also is a proven cheater. its not hard to get top 100 in a game by blatantly cheating online

[@SleepyStreak]

​@@TheSuperappelflapHes a popular chess player who was at most big events. He has since not been invited to any. Literally destroyed his career

[@brendolbreadwar2671]

I think Hans saw two choices in front of him. He could either go through a very long and hard court case that he doesn’t know the outcome of, or, he could get his career back with full support, and earn his way back to the top. I think it’s an easy choice for someone that has passion for what they do. He just wanted his life back, not some pay day where he quits forever.

[@charlesreid9337]

Hans isnt the one who backed down

[@heatheninferos2231]

⁠@@charlesreid9337They never said he did. He got what he wanted - a slate clear of the allegation. The $100,000,000 was probably just some kind of tactic to get there.

[@brendolbreadwar2671]

@@heatheninferos2231 yeah exactly. I’m sure he would of been fine with 100mil, but at the end of the day, anyone in his position would just want their old life back.

[@suzannell24]

The case was dismissed by a judge

[@charlesreid9337]

@@suzannell24 i posted a bigger comment earlier. But the judge dismissed two of the federal claims.. which should have been.. with prejudice. He dismissed the two State claims due to lack of jurisdiction which means simply that they were filed in the wrong court and should be refiled in the correct jurisdiction. The fact there was a settlement tells you there was in fact ongoing civil action. These two were NOT dismissed for lack of merit

[@MyNam3IsR0]

I love your content, keep it up!

[@quartdude]

NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY KZbin! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯

[@Daveaintreal]

Good God, you got gangbanged by bots here.

[@ashercd6487]

​@CrewmateComplexClani hate your content, keep it down

[@snipeybro]

The always sunny episode making sense to me

[@moonzdie6477]

how petty do you have to be to call out cheating in a real person to person game but cant name a single evidence

[@dunno23]

Moist you are wrong on one part. Only top 15-25 players (who are usually 2720+) get invited for closed tournaments. Hans rating is 2667, he was never part of top 20-25 players. In the tournament with the cheating scandal, Niemann was invited as last minute replacement for a player who couldn’t make the tournament.

[@swe872]

Dont expect people outside of the community to understand a thing, why do you think this comment section is full of missinformation whose only interaction in chess is hikaru smashing 1500 elo rated players on blits, they never even mentioned the actual theorized cheating that was he payed a magnus team member to get his prep, and botted against it with, which isnt that weird and has probably happened a lot under scene

[@XrayTheMyth23]

@@swe872I think this is more likely than the dildo thing although not as spicy

[@themug406]

@@swe872 Calm down, its chess, not everyone cares like its actually important

[@rodrigomarcondes5857]

now i finally believe when Charlie says "internet time" goes way faster than real world time, i feel like this scandal happened 2 years ago