HUGE INSIDE! Surprising Floor Plan of Full-Featured Camper Van - 2023 Thor Scope 18M

[@danoc51]

This is may be the best floorplan I've seen for the single traveler. Thanks for your usual great job!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Wow, thanks!

[@VocalVirgo]

I think so too. And if you need a bit more space, storage and a larger refrigerator, look at model 20K. Same floorpan. Plus, the bed is a few inches wider.

[@pdub6453]

We own a 2023 SCOPE 18M. And we love it! - purchased it for the many reasons you mentioned. As with any RV, it takes awhile to figure out what works best for the users. For example, when sleeping we choose to put our heads forward and feet toward the bath. It is easier to scoot “feet first”. We also just toured the Thor factory in Bristol, IN and the 2024 model has addressed many of the annoyances we have. It is nice to know that they are listening.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for watching and commenting !

[@Desperado3248]

This is one of the few positive comments by owners I have seen

[@user-wo4zd4ii1s]

Thank you Scott!! Finally, companies realize many vanlifers want open living space and/or are solo full-time.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Frank-James]

I love these and I love the Thor Rize.....BUT!!!! As far as the layout, I would prefer the bed in the back so I do not have to break it down everyday to access the rest of the van. But ya....For the price these are outstanding!!!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Frank

[@keitha.9788]

Luv that layout, especially with the rear bathroom configuration!!! Cleaning the toilet/bathroom by opening the read door makes a lot of sense.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Great idea!!

[@cindywernert1605]

Can’t imagine 2 ppl sleeping in that or either getting up for the bathroom from bed at night. We own a Coachmen Beyond 22C that we absolutely love.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Beyond !

[@ironhorsevinnie]

A~plus Video Scott. You out of many the only one who took the time to put the bed out. I knew it a tight fit, but one if buying one of these cool vans -likes to see everything. Thanks.. Cool

[@nancycarroll489]

I bought it at La Mesa In Florida. love it. Easy to drive. Easy to park

[@pdub6453]

And easily fits into parking spots at trail heads!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Right on!

[@AZ1RICK]

Hi Scott, This vid was great to see as it’s the model of my rig… mine is a Rize 18m vs the Scope but they are exactly the same. I’m a remote worker in IT and use mine to escape the Phoenix heat in the summer or hang out by a lake, park or boon-docking in the Fall, Winter and spring. I’ve added a foam topper to the bed and it’s easily used as a single since I mostly travel solo. I’ve traveled in mine for weeks at a time without issues due to size. I like the cassette toilet as it’s very easy to empty and maintain. On longer trips More frequent water fills occur due to the smaller tank sizes but see this as a minor inconvenience given the footprint of the vehicle. As you said is easily a day driver if wanted. For the features and ease of use I’ve found it to be a great value compared to other makes and models in the Class B market. Thanks again for another great video!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hi AZ1

[@brassbelt]

Nice review Scott but as far as the cassette toilet, it would be nice to see how that opens up and how to service it as far as cleaning it. Maybe you can show that thanks again.!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Great suggestion!

[@pnwrving9841]

That's what I drive! I have been on two week trips with my spouse and we travel well in it! There is also a Luno front cab air mattress that we have used too

[@pdub6453]

We have this model and also have the LUNO mattress. We just finished a two-week trip with our grandson. It worked great!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx PNW… I have a GSLL YT channel Roundup happening in Spokane later this month. check my website for detials, GoSmallLiveLarge.com for details. hope you can join us

[@Hamsterniuniu]

The best floor plan for this type of travel vehicle 👍

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx Ham

[@olebloom1641]

I like the layout. As a single I would just remove the cushions and sleep on the couch/bed as is without opening it. Roughly the same layout, with more storage, than the Maxwell EV Vanacea/Nook E ev vans.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Bloom

[@karendionne2228]

Love love love!!! I don't know why more floor plans don't have the bathroom/shower in the back?!?! So much room!!!❤

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Karen !

[@ryanbirr1668]

What a neat little rig. Thanks for giving us a tour!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Our pleasure!

[@Van_Liberty]

Hey Scott! I also really like a lot about this one. I love short vans! The front seating/table layout is excellent for three people to be together. The bed could be quite nice just by pulling the extender out a few inches for decent width for one person. I do that in my Embassy Sport. Galley is very good. Bath, for this kind of van is a winner even if it's a bit cramped. Has everything for short travels for two or longer for a single person. Cassette toilet is, well....I sure do love my LAVEO dry flush. It works! Sorry I missed you at the Embassy camp out.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

we missed you !

[@iglapsu88]

Lots of storage! unique bed design. Like the rear bath. Would prefer a standard RV toilet though. Would knock it out of the park with a good lithium system, but understand the additional cost. Thanks Scott!

[@prophetseven728]

The design is exactly like mine and mine is 1989. I just have a 2nd bed or you can use it as storage over the cab.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for sharing!

[@karinjones4380]

Also, Lithium not necessary if you travel shoulder seasons in the west half of the US. I just finish a Desert southwest 12 national Park journey over 6 weeks in 6 states. I used my heater a lot at high altitude in Colorado for the snow. I only used my generator a few hours a week when my Jackery stopped working. I never ran out of power because I drove every day for at least 30 minutes. I mostly Boondock and used air conditioning for an hour or two here and there if needed with the Generator on my SolIs.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

well said

[@ericmed]

Besides Travato this has always been my favorite layout wise!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Eric

[@dianejimenez8327]

My Husband and I have a Rize ..the same model van the only difference.. is the color cabinets ..are white and kitchen.. counter is white also. What do we like most about it ??? Our favorite is the bathroom ... roomy 👍 Basic ..simple .. Our needs .....thats what attracted us to this van . Would I remend this van.. Over all yes ..I think so👍 Thanks ..Scott Have a great day ! 😁

[@shestudios]

What’s you experience with repair on your coach?

[@Patrick_Ross]

@@shestudios - I have the same question. How long have they had it and what components need repair thus far. Thor is well known for its cheap materials and shoddy workmanship.

[@dianejimenez8327]

@shestudios We had a problem with the awning not retracting, which had a recall, and the dealer replaced the motor. We have a small leak from the exaust fan over the living area and have an appointment to fix it. Overall, we love our B van!!!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

That is awesome!

[@cindiheslin6782]

I have the 2022 18M, love it for trips with my dogs. I use it as a daily driver a lot at home because of it's smaller size! Cassette toilet is so easy, no more stinky slinky.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for watching and commenting !

[@DMRSIX]

Thank you Scott! Excellent review!!This one is ideal for a second vehicle that can be used totally as a van and then for a weekend escape.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ginnyk50]

I like the rear bath. Nice layout.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Right on

[@richkurtz6053]

I'm impressed. You got the bed out easily on the first try. Nice compact layout. Thor also has a similar model floorplan on the 21 foot 3500 which we seriously considered. Lithium would be nice.

[@pdub6453]

We just were at the factory. They have redesigned the bed pull out, using a slatted option. And lithium is now an option.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx Rich

[@joecutro7318]

Thanks for sharing this your on your channel, Scott. Very thorough review as usual. This ia an incredibly well thought out floorplan. However, after watching other vanlife channels sharing nightmare experiences with Thor products purchased from LaMesa RV, there is no way I would take a chance on this product or dealer. 😢 Thor build quality has a horrible reputation and LaMesa customers are waiting months to resolve warranty claims. No 6-figure investment is worth that. Sorry for the negativity, but maybe it will inspire improvement. 🤷🏻‍♂️🙏☮️

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hi Joe

[@anthonylan2295]

I agree with you onThor and the dealer.

[@151mcx]

totally agree. Seen too many with problems. I feel sorry for them. Should have just built there own vans .... The bed layout is a joke for two. It's uncomfortable and I've seen many problems with the pull out part failing.

[@traveldreamer4616]

Nice van, especially for a daily travel. Biggest negative is the power system or lack of it. Wish they offered a lithium option. Great utilization of space in a small van. Like that aspect. The bed was easily converted. Open door and pull out one side of the bed for a chaise lounge experience while enjoying the view.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Great point

[@pdub6453]

They do now! We just visited the factory, and lithium is now an option. For those models, no propane or generator needed.

[@traveldreamer4616]

@@pdub6453 awesome

[@Nomad_Meg]

Thanks for the great tour Scott. I see this as being only practical for shorter trips. The lack of significant power management and needing shore power for AC is disappointing. I feel more than a few days would start to be somewhat confining even for one person. They have put a lot of thought in getting a lot of storage in such a small space and components definitely seem to have some quality to them.

[@Clay-ul4po]

There is a 2.8K (23 amp) generator which will run the a/c and everything else.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx M Sorensen

[@havefunbesafe]

Wow!!!! I couldn’t imagine..I currently live in my Toyota Sienna minivan that I purchased for $1500…I love it. Maybe in the future I’ll buy one of these?!???

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Sienna? You are a stronger person than me !

[@mudpie8104]

Thanks for exposing us to one more option! You are thorough and that is very helpful!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Glad it was helpful!

[@kjlcycler]

What typical garage fits 9’ 5” high?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

I had editing mistake. thx

[@Kaeteymae]

Nomadic Introvert has a Thor like this. Unfortunately she has had problem after problem with her rig which is less than a year old. There were so many things that were of shoddy workmanship. She has now been stuck in Florida for quite some time because there has been problem after problem with the generator. She had to have her whole bathroom replaced because that was all falling apart and not made properly. She had to have her window fixed because that wasn't working properly. Her exhaust tailpipe was falling off.... The piece that held it on was of poor quality. You can watch some of her videos and see all of the problems. Thank you for your review Scott, but I think it's a hard pass on a Thor for me.

[@bcloetta]

I too read some negative reviews.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Yikes

[@BrittMFH]

Yes, I follow her, too. I'm surprised he's reviewing a Thor. Not good quality.

[@judith6696]

Best review, so far!! Really can understand the highlights of this van and its utility, for such a short van. Good wk.! May consider, despite the lack of Lithium! (due to price)

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx Judith

[@pher71]

I really like that van, love the Storyteller, but this just made my list of potentials thanks for sharing this Scott 😎

[@gosmall.livelarge]

No problem 👍

[@sflscott11]

My new Promaster 136 should be delivered soon. I decided to recreate-ish this floor plan for my build. Looking forward to it!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Very good

[@chrisgrover507]

Pretty cool little rig. I think that was an iPad holder upper by the sink.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

ok

[@russ2714]

This is the model I want however I will wait to purchase one until Thor starts using the updated (2023) Ram Promaster chassis with the 9 speed transmission.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hi Russ

[@bbuck1bbuck1]

that bed is a lot better than the jigsaw puzzle they had before

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx B Buck

[@maryhull3877]

A well thought out small van w a toilet n shower...wow

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx Mary

[@notanomad9320]

Hymer offered a similar floor plan years ago on the 1500 Promaster. There's only so much you can do with these vans.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx Not

[@RDuude]

I love having a garage area, but this layout seems so open and nice.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Yes !

[@pdub6453]

We own this model. Our clothes fit into the upper cabinets so we use the wardrobe in the rear as our garage space. Works great for us.

[@janedoran1157]

Great review Scott. Nice as a second vehicle and weekend camper.

[@dean4558]

Nomadic introvert has the same Rig, I absolutely love her channel 😁

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Good to know!

[@dave4943]

Hi Scott ! Thanks for making this review. What a needed breath of fresh air for van/rv design! Can we get an option for composting toilet? Enjoy your reviews , thanks again !

[@gosmall.livelarge]

not sure

[@M.Mae.M]

I enjoyed you showed the inside first ❤. For a solo traveler this would be great. Friends can sleep in a tent outside 😂

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Absolutely!!

[@Rashnak66]

I've had nothing but trouble with my Thor classB. I regret the day I ever heard of the name Thor. Quality is poor and support completely failed to fix my problem for two years- they ran out the warranty and left me hanging. For example- that table is attached to a very thin particleboard with six tiny wood screws- mine broke in only a couple of uses.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Yikes

[@judylowe2688]

Thanks Scott! I've been waiting for your reviews on this one, because your reviews are short but thorough. Can you do thor newest floor plan, the Scope 18g?

[@Patrick_Ross]

The 18G is limited to short people. Bed is 70” in length.

[@judylowe2688]

@@Patrick_Ross I'm 5'5'' and I have yet to see a review on the 18g with somebody stretch out on that bed.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

I will try!

[@thefrugalwanderlustinglinguist]

Love it! I travel full time via house sitting and often have a long drive and/or overnight in between sits. I teach English online as I go as well. ALSO it would serve as my lil private space while visiting family as my sleeping on sofas and airbeds ship has sailed! Love the solar option too. ..and then there's the price! 😵‍💫 Not on a retired teacher's pension. oh well, it's nice to dream.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Janet, you know that life energy is priceless and sometimes one needs to spend the $$ to get the GO and the rest go.

[@sandrap3047]

Love this! Thanks for showing!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for watching!

[@ekdaufin1485]

Great splash guards!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

yes

[@oceanlover3530]

Thanks Scott! Nice van with all you need in a smaller size. Appreciate you posting! ✌🏻👍🏻✌🏻

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hi Ocean

[@oceanlover3530]

@@gosmall.livelarge Howdy Scott! ✌🏻✌🏻

[@digital1937]

It looks like a relatively affordable option but doesn't Thor have a really lousy reputation for a complete lack of quality control?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

got it

[@Desperado3248]

Yes

[@ck-ib2xb]

Thanks for that info. Definitely appreciate it 👍🏾

[@dianezybrands8250]

It’s no Wingham but it’s pretty nice for its size and price point. If I couldn’t get a Wingham oasi I would definitely consider this. Nice job showing it. Thanks Scott. 😉

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Fair enough!

[@prophetseven728]

WoW! This Floor Plan is exactly like mine. I just bought 1989 Camper Van and this is how it came stock. 250 E by Ford. Difference is I have a Jack knife bed that I love. So easy to set up. One flip and it is done. No cushes to even move. The Back had a Dark Matter Toilet and a Tub. Smallest tub I ever seen. I ripped those out and have now a huge storage space. I still have the shower back there and put in my Camping large toilet with automatic push button flush. Love it, easy to clean out and Zero smell. But also the whole section doubles as a storage room. Bikes etc.. I do have a extra Queen size bed over head in the front though. So mine sleeps 4. Not sure if this one has it. But mine is 19ft is this a 17footer? There are some pieces on this one I like to use for mine. Do you sell the parts. Like that net insert into the wall is cool. If not I can make one. Shower door is interesting as well. I have niece curtain that covers mine and tucks out of the way. Also the rail for your shower curtain might be nice. I using Magnets to hold mine up. Since shower curtain liners come with magnets build in already . I just thru them away after a couple of uses and than buy an new. one. Keeps it extra clean! I like to update my fridge too. Im sure yours takes less energy. How much is this overall Van? I bought mine for $12Gs put in $500 for new floors etc.. I do not have solar yet that be next and another cost. Mine has a Gen. But thinking about ripping it out for the Solar and a place to put its batteries. And I than can just use the 2nd gas tank that is built in. For a Reserve. I believe it 12-14 gallons on the reserver alone!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Prophet

[@juancarlosducca2782]

Thank you for the great review! Does it have seat belts for the sofa to bring 2 more passengers?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

not sure

[@juancarlosducca2782]

@@gosmall.livelarge I went to see it and actually it does have seatbelts, wonder how comfortable the seats are for a long trip.

[@KenyonKarl]

ANOTHER THOUGHT, where are the water tanks? Can the tanks be used for winter travel? Where does the generator get its fuel? Where is the generator located?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for watching and commenting ! do not have good answers for you at this point

[@joleend8086]

Hi I am a new subscriber and been watching your content off and on for a few months now. I saw your older videos and you have Luke the cat. Is he still traveling with you? Mahalo for your content from the 50th State!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Howdy HI !! Sadly, Vanlife Luke a couple of years ago. Miss him terribly. Thanks for watching and commenting !

[@joleend8086]

@@gosmall.livelarge I'm sorry to hear this. I lost my Siamese Cat Luke Skywalker a few years ago. The loss is still immense.

[@kolegate2u]

Dang, this is nice.

[@josephbrown7319]

Awesome!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Glad you think so!

[@monicae67]

Does anyone know what the dimensions are when the sofa is pulled out into a bed? It would be my husband and I. Worried if 2 people would fit. We’re not tall people.

[@DenaliDad]

I just wish these weren’t so expensive, even used. I live full time in my Toyota Prius and love it, and have for four years. I would like more space from time to time, especially when it rains. But I cannot afford $100K

[@Patrick_Ross]

You must be a member of one of the younger generations. Us baby boomers…or geezers, as we like to call ourselves…need a bathroom at the ready! I’m 74 and car camped in my Prius c….for up to two months at a time….up until 3 years ago. Now camp in my Subaru Outback, which is long enough to sleep in the back of, but the lack of bathroom facilities still rears its ugly head. I’m now beyond waking up at a rest stop or campground and having to dash off to the bathroom! Or, even worse, having to search out an open McDonald’s or supermarket when I’m parked overnight in a city!

[@DenaliDad]

@@Patrick_Ross No, I am not of a younger generation.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Life is short. do the right thing

[@Chuck-qi8pw]

Does this model come with a pop up?

[@steveedelen8377]

Hi Scott. I enjoy your reviews

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hey, thanks!

[@sybilburke1404]

Good review

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@tonynes3577]

The poptop model is out too..

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Yes !

[@Desperado3248]

The table should open up so it could be used with the full length of the sofa. The kitchen window should open.

[@janalaughlin2197]

Scott you mentioned it fits in most garages. Cool! How tall is it? We just got a Roadtrek Promaster 3500 which is longer and doesn’t fit in our garage. Wish it did that would be awesome!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Hi Jana. I made an editing error, that van will not fit in a standard garage with a 7’ clearance. My apologies.

[@janalaughlin2197]

@@gosmall.livelarge all good Scott. We enjoy your channel!

[@BeyondtheFern]

Great option for a solo traveler!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

yes

[@Canoecamper]

You do a great job describing this Class B's features, but the statement that it "probably fits in the standard household garage" is flat out wrong. Standard garage door openings are only about 7 feet tall.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

John, thanks for your comment. Regarding garage clearance, I thought I edited that sentence out. I update the KZbin Video Description page to include this… ADVISORY! This camper van will NOT fit into a standard sized, residential garage which typically have a 7 foot height clearance. My apologies as I thought I edit that sentence out.

[@artieross9537]

I like it. Just wish it had Volta, then it would have been perfect.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

yes

[@mattj6940]

Interesting concept, seems best as you said where someone is using it casually/weekends rather than for extended road trips. Overall I like the idea but a couple of head scratchers: 1. Cant dump your toilet if you have anything attached to the hitch? As someone who carries a motorcycle I’d have to remove it every time I dump with that tiny tank. Even if you don’t have something on the hitch if it’s super buggy like where I am now youre getting your rig filled with mosquitos every time you dump. Give me a black tank instead. 2. Forgive me if I missed it but are there no dimmers on those lights in that fancy touch display?!? Top winnebago miss on my GL is them not installing dimmers on ANY of these harsh bright white spotlights they chose to illuminate the interior. It just feels like they cheaped out…. As a fellow fan of mood lighting, I had to buy my own dimmable lights and hardly use any of the 10+ built in ones.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Matt

[@ToddK1972]

I own a 2022 of same model. 1 - When I’ve been someplace with flying insects, I simply pull the shower curtain across when opening the back to minimize them getting in. 2 - He ran thru lighting really quick, but on the BMPro screen there are sliders for living room, kitchen (over the range), kitchen ceiling & bath ceiling. They all dim quite low.

[@mattj6940]

@@ToddK1972 thanks for the reply! Congrats on the rig. I said that as someone who just did the drive to Alaska. Skeeters were making their way into the rig through what I thought were sealed bathroom vents like an invasion of zombies lol. I’d still much prefer a cutout in the side of the rig for the cassette but thats great if it works for you. And that’s awesome congrats on having dimmers lol, didn’t see it in the video. Been living in my rig two years and every single night I question Winnebago’s lighting decisions.

[@JCreole]

Nice set up….

[@gosmall.livelarge]

It sure is

[@peterw.3816]

Which Promaster van wheelbase? 118" or 136"?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

it was the shorter 19’ van, not sure of wheelbase

[@user-ey1mo5oe5x]

Why is there a sewer hose hatch on the outside if it has a cassette toilet?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Was that not the water inlet? Been a few mins since the recording

[@CD-sz7tf]

Gray water drain needs a hose...

[@user-ey1mo5oe5x]

@@gosmall.livelarge At 16:14 you point to a panel labeled Sewer Hose. Curious what that was.

[@stevearita3267]

Thank you for doing this review. I'm really interested in the 18M, mainly because I like the short length size, but I'm concerned about the reliability of the Dodge RAM vans...can you provide any thoughts on this? Thank you!

[@pdub6453]

We are new owners so only 7000 miles thus far - no issues to date.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

I have lived in my Promaster RV fulltime for 4.5 years with 114,000 with minimal trouble

[@stevearita3267]

@@pdub6453 Thank you for your message. This is helpful to hear from owners.

[@stevearita3267]

@@gosmall.livelarge Thank you, I gotta believe the van is reliable, since there are so many on the road.

[@kelias1025]

I love it ! BUT, the cassette toilet is a deal breaker for me!! I want a regular old black water tank .

[@gosmall.livelarge]

right on

[@mytravelnow]

Nomadic Introvert van lol ❤

[@gosmall.livelarge]

!!

[@craigw.scribner6490]

Thanks for another great review, Scott. FYI: "THULE" is pronounced "TOO-LEE."

[@gosmall.livelarge]

My bad

[@gosmall.livelarge]

we missed you !

[@craigw.scribner6490]

@@gosmall.livelarge No problem, Scott--if I didn't like you and your videos, I wouldn't have bothered to share that with you! Keep up the good work!

[@JD-xo3xz]

Luckily, when we had our home constructed we insisted on 9' garage opening. Not a bad layout to consider but still too many corners cut to save on costs.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Good job on garage clearance

[@pdub6453]

FYI - official height of the vehicle is 9’ 5” with the AC on top so it won’t fit into a garage unless the door opening can accommodate the height.

[@JD-xo3xz]

@@pdub6453 Thanks. Planning on ditching the rooftop AC and installing a undermounted mini split 12V.

[@KenyonKarl]

I have NO EXPERIENCE with living in a van, but I think that your assessment of the sleeping arrangements IS TOTALLY REALISTIC. because of the various cracks in the resulting cushion layout. 😞 Note this review did NOT count the seat belts in the sofa thus we don't know the number of legal travelers!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@Thesaltymedic36]

Not a bad layout. Needs some Volta though 😂. Probably good for a solo traveler. Maybe a little tight for 2

[@gosmall.livelarge]

truth

[@margie1767]

Even as a single traveler, I would not like the bed. No way to move around when it is down. And I have to sleep on a mattress, not a cushion. 😊

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Good to know

[@sanchezcindy4004]

Is this Floorplan available with a non-cassette toilet?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Not that I am aware of

[@rvinformation1018]

It is a great floor plan except for the couch/bed set up. A better set up would be to have a "Rollover Couch."

[@bjtravelersRV]

Hey Scott nice presentation, cool van but way too small for me!! Good maybe for smaller people or single traveler, 👍

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Fair enough!

[@richarddonegan4666]

I got the same one last year, Thor Rize, people wipe bottom of awing whenever wet. Along with everything else to keep clean....

[@gosmall.livelarge]

hi Richard

[@LiamWald]

That bed looks really difficult and inconvenient.

[@Errr717]

So with the typical discount we're looking at about $95,000. I think the Winnebago Solis Pocket 36B better have a better layout.

[@DingbadYoutube]

If you want a twin it’s easy.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Right on

[@bcloetta]

I looked at these almost 2 years ago. Opted for a custom build with a fixed bed. I am mostly solo when traveling and really value my lithium setup and comfy bed! Plus having a roomy garage for equipment, tools, firewood is a plus and my bike and skis fit there too.

[@maxlakritz]

Sounds wonderful😊. Did you build that in a 1500 chassis?

[@bcloetta]

@@maxlakritz I did not do the build. I bought it from a friend who had done most of the build minus the cabinetry. I read some negative reviews of the Thors. I drove a Travato and felt like I was on a boat--listing and rocking. Mine just instantly felt solid driving it and I had confidence it had been lovingly cared for and all the bugs were worked out.

[@maxlakritz]

@@bcloetta so you had the custom build on a 1500?

[@maxlakritz]

Would love to talk to the person who designed it

[@maxlakritz]

I wish I had gone with a custom build. It sounds like you went with a larger van. To get a garage etc

[@ljo6657]

FYI, It doesn’t fit inside a typical garage, but it fits in a typical driveway.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Yes, I thought I edited that out. Made note in video Description

[@lindacook6720]

The bed isn’t a bed it’s a bunch of cushions that don’t stay in one place and it’s also not a sofa. I’d like to see them go all in on a single person floor plan going something like a daybed in that space where you can put a decent mattress. Also no lithium and little solar. I didn’t catch if there was an inverter

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thanks for watching and commenting !

[@Deborah986]

That bed it TOO fussy. Can you imagine doing this every day???😳

[@Patrick_Ross]

Better fit is to use a sleeping bag on it.

[@angelawhite4795]

I guess you are fussy Deborah.

[@Deborah986]

@@angelawhite4795 not really just like things easy

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Deb

[@nealjohnson1461]

That is an interesting Van for sure. If I were a single traveler I would absolutely put it at the top of my list, but still behind your model Travato. I am not sure what the marketing angle is but if it’s marketed as a short trip or weekend rig I think the stove and generator are over kill. On short trip or weekend a single burner butane works perfect and is way cheaper than the overpriced Dometic stoves. It’s a good floor plan though!! There is a local couple in the Phoenix area that had a lot of problems with their Thor Class B and I’ve seen other KZbin videos of some less than quality workmanship on Thor B vans do I would definitely inspect the heck out of a Thor van. Great video Scott with a good presentation of the the Thor B van.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Neal !

[@TakeAHikeToday]

👍🏼 for Thor floor plans and thought out designs 👎🏼 for Thor quality! I owned a Sequence and it was a disaster of issues. Would never own another Thor product.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx

[@karinjones4380]

I like this layout. Casey Roman bought one but she is not happy with the comfort of the the bed and it seems too small. She is going to change and upsize. Also for smaller person sitting on the couch is not comfortable for working.

[@margaretbowen867]

Every one who buys a van or trailer changes out the mattress.

[@karinjones4380]

@@margaretbowen867 more complicated when part of the couch. She did change the cushions out. Myself, I would get a mattress topper which is what I use. I have a Murphy bed so it needs to fold up.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

thx Karin

[@sanchezcindy4004]

Love the Floorplan not the cassette toilet!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Got it

[@michaelsmith9308]

These are great if you buy at he RV shows for $69,000 NEW:)

[@gosmall.livelarge]

got it

[@NJ-Cathie]

The cabinets look identical to Winnebago

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Thx Catherine

[@brassbelt]

Can we buy this at a dealer in California?

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Lots of thor dealers in CA, Brass !

[@J.W.W.]

I paused your video at 4:30 because you did the drawers very fast. I like to look for quality of build, such as dovetail versus staples. Looks like this one fails.

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Got it