HUGE Russian SEAD Attack vs Layered Modern Patriot SAM Network In Ukraine (WarGames 102) | DCS

[@grimreapers]

Ukraine-Russia Series: Rus Bombers vs Modernized Patriot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoqcZ2SqgbN4Z5o JDAM vs S-400 Network: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYGXpJl6fJJjZ6c Kinzhal vs Pac-3 & IRIS-T: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2Gqq5WXn65jo7c F16 or Gripen for Ukraine?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j17OaGSkm8ajarM Mig-31 vs NATO Black Sea AWACS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHeyq52NZ5p8qqs R-37M Long Range Shootdown: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2SvfHqCadxsh5Y Drone Swarm vs NATO Defense: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXWlgIaabtZ2etU Patrio PAC-3/IRIS-T vs Missiles: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGa9aWSfjJ2MhLs MANPAD/IRIS-T vs Russian Missiles: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGq1anqLi8iHr80 AGM-158C LRASM vs Sevastopol: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXW9oHeIna58iNk A-10s Operating in S-400 Nets: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3Pad5-bqMxnaNE Modernized Su-27 vs Su-35: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ3PfXewmrlleNU Modernized F15/F16 vs Su-35: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4XSq4d-l6aLjNU Can Su-57 Defend Russia From F-22/35: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e17SdGaEnN12b5Y IMPROVED Stealth vs Russian Bombers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5jafYpqjrCpjLc Ukraine Using Hellfire Missile?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZCUint6idKDhtk US Harpoons vs Russian Navy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZrIlmtpeLyFmac Ukraine Using APKWS?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHPbh2yPqqaZl9k Ukraine US HARMs vs Russian S-400: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4TcdoKOqM-KpZo Patriot/NASAMS vs Supersonic Missiles: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2LUaKh6ms6hd5Y Fulcrum/Flanker vs Foxbat/Super Flanker: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJm7l6uZbpl9d7c NASAMS vs Russian Cruise Missiles: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnuskJVvas-tps0 Russian KH-47M2 vs Polish Air Force: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ_Vh6ungZqkb9k Su-27 & Drone vs Snake Island: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipDSg6KLZ6asnNE Su-25s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKq5Z2iYiq-tqNk NATO Eurofighters vs Crimean AWACS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5qtY5d8h81sa8k Patriot, Gepard & Gripen vs KH-65: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJnblaWEn86aZ8k A-10s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGHXi6KlZdp_npY USN Tomahawk Strike Kerch Bridge: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfTmmuud96ajJo USAF Stealth Strike Kerch Bridge: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3vFl2x4mN2hrZI Ukrainian Jets Strike Kerch Bridge: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2mppqCrj7eYeJY F-22 Raptors vs Russian Fighters: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaDQg5ajp9x9jc0 Raptor/Eagle vs Super Flanker: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZbUiqCriKqiY5o USAF Bombers vs Mariupol Defenses: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3TWk6KFfJWEi5Y Ukraine Bombs Snake Island: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eImZammDgMmemJo Stealth Fighters vs Russian Bombers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKrQamOgo7Z3qaM Sinking Of Moskva #3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHrNoKx_nsqCsLs Sinking Of Moskva #2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ_Nl5WglKqqjZY Sinking Of Moskva #1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKnamWmDfLF9hMU Russia Nukes Britain: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKvOZWiIe7aqd5o Ukraine Uses Danish F-16s: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2izmp6opZWEl7s Ukraine Uses Polish Mig-29s: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHTMZad3ft-ohbc Russian-Britain Missile Attack: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKiseJmXl9utfqM Ghost Of Kyiv: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6PGpWuMadNkY7c Belgorod Raid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4LcnIeuqZuZqtk Eurofighter/Fulcrum vs Super Flanker: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4Hcepymes2aiJI US Strike vs Odessa kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZbMgHudr86WbLs Russian Helo Rocket Lob: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2KbeJp9o7WSqa8 Russian Su-25 vs US Patriot SAM: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6TTZ2yQecSnhZI Understanding Russian SAMs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGXbhauCg7-Lmdk Ukrainian Jets Road Operations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnPTq4SentODmNk Russian 40 Mile Convoy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKPCXmV8gcefeM0 Flanker vs Super Flanker: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jICkpoJ8ga96oZY

[@Mrizing]

Here's a idea for you just play Google maps all you do is blah blah blah blah shut up anymore you sound like you have a black dick in your mouth

[@TraditionalAnglican]

@@Mrizing - No one is making you watch Grim Reapers, so you don’t have to watch it.

[@stgyors8540]

You make a whole series about it, thanks cap

[@droman608]

Expectation: The Russian Air Force: “We will apply this in our Special Military Operation.” Reality: The Russian Air Force: “We can’t get off the ground without a plane falling due to lack of maintenance or enemy interception.” The F-22: “LET ME EAT!”

[@HockeyFan1972]

To answer your question: I HAVE seen a PATRIOT go off. Desert Storm and at White Sands. Loud as hell, gone in an instant, turned the sand behind the launcher to glass!

[@grimreapers]

WoW!

[@jamesmaddison4546]

Question, were you involved at all in the development of the patriot systems? if you were, you might either know or worked with my father. Name is Jim Madewell. He was a fighter pilot, retired in very early 80s and went to work as an engineer then became one of the chief weapons inspectors overseeing the north texas region. He would have to evaluate, test, certify etc all weapons systems that came out of this region, he reported to the dod. Some of the projects he worked on was patriot, javelin/stinger, losat, some agm systems but i cant remember the names. He would be gone at white sands for a week or 2 quite often testing all the stuff. At home it was funny sometimes, he'd be on his work computer reviewing test footage, plans etc and whenever id walk by he would block the screen and be like you saw nothing 😂 He did make sure to emphasize to me that if i ever do happen to see the stuff, I better not go telling my friends about the cool things im working on lol

[@HockeyFan1972]

@@jamesmaddison4546 Sorry man, I have not met him. I was just a lowly PFC/SPC in a PATRIOT firing battery. LOL. We went to White Sands once every 2 years to fire 1 missile. That's it. 1! at (then prices) 1.5 Million a piece, it cost too much to train with live ammo! Happy when I switched to the Field Artillery, then we could make boom booms all day long! Anyhoo, that would be a cool job to have, your old man. I am proud though to be a former PATRIOT Missile Crewmember. I woked in the launcher platoon, and then the Fire Control Platoon. It was a good system then, cant imagine how the upgrades in technology have it today!

[@ROTNReaper]

I've been present for over 30 patriot missile fires and never seen it turn the sand to glass. But the rest is pretty accurate

[@HockeyFan1972]

@ROTNReaper Gaming in Daharan during DS, the sand crystallized after the launches. When we looked at it closer, it was glass, but yea it didn't make a Paine window! Lol. I still have a baggie full of half a handful.

[@Draksyl]

Shock horror, attack designed with full knowledge of enemy dispositions and forces manages to win. Now try repeating with human pilots where Cortana places the air defences around a couple of targets for you to attack, but you don't know how many air defences exist or where they are located 😋

[@raptorblarg2284]

Grim reapers sead vs kortana air defense? Reapers would win but would need to use Fox 4s to win

[@damonburroughs5283]

I'm sure some comprehensive recon would be conducted before flying in blindly , just as we do

[@Wyomingchief]

@@raptorblarg2284 I don't know I seem to recall her setting up one that they weren't able to penetrate. Or maybe it was as you suggested they fox-4 the target?

[@joshuafelder2701]

This would definately be fun/realistic. BUT irl nobody goes in blind. ELINT, IMINT, and good old fashioned guesswork means you pretty much know where they'll be set up. And by guesswork I mean... known CAP/LIM set of a set of gear, when paired with terrain analysis, gives you a pretty good guess at where they'll be. You won't get a targetable grid, but if you told a tank platoon/attack helo section/flight to look at this grid square and kill the SAMs there? Doable.

[@raptorblarg2284]

@@Wyomingchief I don't remember if she did. I would want to watch that again. But yes I am suggesting that them fox 4ing the target would probably be the most efficient way to eliminate the target

[@oliverodell3105]

Yep, definitely unhealthy to be near active radars. You will notice at airports the radars are positioned as far away from people as possible.

[@technicalfool]

It's unhealthy for the same reason you shouldn't stick your head in a microwave oven and override the safety interlocks. It'll cook you, but it won't cause radiation sickness in the same way as being near a neutron source or similar. Referring to cooking a meal in a microwave oven as "nuking" it is a popular, but incorrect concept. Which doesn't mean it isn't funny and therefore gets used a lot.

[@ooelectronoo]

Yup radar is deadly if fired at humans. Similarly a radio antenna transmitting is also very dangerous to people.

[@jamesmaddison4546]

Yup. My dad flew f4s in vietnam and later in his career the f15 when his unit phased out the f4. I remember him telling me that in the f4 whenever they would turn on all the jammers etc and have them bursting out all those signals , that he could literally feel it and sometimes the hair on his neck would stand up. First time he told me that I was like woaah thats freaking crazy 😆

[@Gearshoot]

@@ooelectronoo At high power yeah. Talking to your buddy on the phone wont do that, but standing near the antenna for say, an FM radio station, might do the trick. And radars are even more powerful.

[@MWSin1]

There are major restrictions on where they can point their radar when an Aegis-equipped vessel is operating near shore. Don't want to microwave the sunbathers.

[@RageDavis]

Radar uses frequencies of 2.9 to 3.1GHz and 9.2 to 9.5 GHz (10^9 Hz). X rays, (the "mildest" kind of ionizing radiation) have a frequency range of 0.5 to 60 x EHz (10^18Hz aka "Exa-Hertz"), so you were right Cap: the frequency of any radar is way lower than any type of ionizing radiation, by several orders of maginitude.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@cockatoo010]

Isn't EUV also ionizing? I mean, it has high enough energy to cause damage to living things

[@jamesmaddison4546]

oh god yeah definitely dude. the higher you go on the em spectrum the shorter the wavelength, in turn the more dangerous it becomes. It's because the frequency (therefore its energy) is higher. This enables more cycles to be completed per second

[@juliusfucik4011]

9 is not several. 9 is one order of magnitude of magnitudes 😂

[@HardCoil]

It's not ionizing, but neither is a microwave oven. Can still be dangerous. Not enough energy pr. photon to break chemical bonds, but plenty to heat up things.

[@jamison884]

Although I love the video and premise, I just wanted to comment on something relevant. To the best of my knowledge, Russia does not incorporate SEAD into its air strategy. If I'm mistaken and this is an aspect of their air doctrine, then there are a few conclusions we can draw. 1. They don't value it anywhere near as important as US and NATO forces do. 2. They don't practice and train nearly as much, with US F-16s in particular being the designated all-stars of the USAF (at least as far as traditional SEAD/DEAD missions go and 4th-gen assets dedicated to this mission set). 3. Russia has been absolutely horrible in performing this mission within Ukraine. Not only do they lack air superiority after nearly a full year of missions from a massively stronger force in terms of numbers and capability versus Ukraine, but they also haven't even really gotten close to just dominating the air let alone full-blown superiority. I believe we can all confidently agree with the US air assets in a hypothetical war against an enemy equivalent to Ukraine would have followed the same trend as their wars against Iraq by dedicating the opening stages of the conflict to SEAD/DEAD and Tomahawk strikes to knock out enemy radar, comms, SAM sites, AAA sites, and mobile AA units. They would then utilize combined arms tactics and overwhelming air assets to gain air superiority and counter enemy MANPADS. There were MANPADS in Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria (granted much much less than in Ukraine), and the US successfully countered their efficacy as a whole.

[@matrick5155]

Cap, your plane at the end didn't pitch down because you had autopilot still on. Check the autopilot indicator with green LED's on. In order to get the control back, you have to turn the autopilot off completely, otherwise the autopilot will "fight" you. (by autopilot I mean altitude hold, bearing hold, etc.). I don't know why, but it works like this on Russian aircrafts. In F-15C and A-10A you can always override the autopilot by input from the stick. I own only FC3 module and this is what I noticed while playing... and yes, I died because of Russian autopilot too. Just remember, always turn AP off before using the stick.

[@grimreapers]

Ah, that'll be it then :(

[@MultiSciGeek]

15:30 Yes, pretty much all radar technology is non-ionizing, the same as a microwave. In fact I see no point in using ionizing radiation - for starters, how'd you make it work cheaply? I mean you can't split atoms with just electricity. Secondly the hazard for everyone involved would be way too high if ionizing radiation was used. I mean these planes would basically be nukes once they crash. The only stuff in the military that uses anything ionizing are nuclear weapons and nuclear powered subs. Remember: nuclear = ionizing. Microwaves (FM, AM), visible light, infrared light, UV light = non-ionizing, aka doesn't need uranium, plutonium, caesium and the likes. Ionizing = rips atoms apart. Non - ionizing = basically harmless to anything smaller than a molecule, with perhaps the main danger being heating, which is how a microwave works.

[@HockeyFan1972]

You are close on how the PATRIOT Battery emplaces. the EPP, ECS, and RADAR are closer together. The ECS Is usually right behind the radar. The EPP is parked to the side of the ECS, The cables from the EPP to power the ECS and the Radar are not that long, thus the small footprint. As for the launchers, they will always be "in front" of the radar down range a bit. The launchers set up in a lazy W formation. They are closer to the ECS if they are running their Fiber Optic cables to communicate, or can extend a bit more down range if using SINCGARS ASIP encrypted.

[@HockeyFan1972]

Dont forget the AMG....which is vital for the Battery to talk to the ICC (BN HQ)

[@grimreapers]

Thanks. Roger, we've cheated a bit and used an automatic datalink that doesn't require AMG. This is an inaccuracy obviosuly.

[@michaelritzen8138]

I listened to Animarchy's interview of Habitual Linecrosser, a Patriot Instructor, and I think that these Patriots are definitely set up with underestimations. I know that a lot is classified (from what I gathered, Patriot should be able to counteract jamming), but the range is at least between 20 and 100 miles (20 miles due to the earths curvature, at least 100, as Habitual Linecrosser had to look up whether the true range was unclassified or not). He had to hold back so many times about what he wanted to say, because it wasn't on Wikipedia (thus still classified), that I believe that Patriot is so advanced that this attack probably wouldn't have gone so easily.

[@TraditionalAnglican]

Not to mention the fact the Patriot’s computers and Radars are designed to deal with 90% angles, so they wouldn’t be notched by these missiles in real life, which means the Probability of Kill would be more like 80-90% instead of 50-55%!

[@lohrtom]

From inside CIC on a warship, a missile launch sounds like the world’s largest toilet flushing.

[@mbplaysgames]

It would be interesting to see how a one two punch would be done. Use the patriot/ s-300 to keep planes low and then use manpads to sweep up the low flyers.

[@MultiSciGeek]

27:23 You have a sever problem reading numbers beyond 1,000. Dude that's 50 million! NOT 50 thousand! Geez get that checked out plz. It's driving me nuts!

[@onetime8424]

Thank you Cap for the hard work! Love these videos!!

[@cylone2005]

Pac 3 is a hit to kill system. Would be awesome to see the mini rocket motors that sit In the front of the missile that refine the intercept course correction be implemented in the mod.

[@christopherchartier3017]

Can PAC-3 be used against airplanes, or is it specifically only anti missile Defence?

[@mostlyevilmisha]

I've seen HAWK and Pac's fired, and they are both awesome. The HAWKS, especially, really rattle the rib cage. Pac's are a multi-stage pressure wave; the initial *thump* when the bird leaves the box, then the second motor you feel instead of hear-

[@SpectralSAWGunner]

According to my father who was in the military during Vietnam, the radar is the same thing as a microwave oven if people are standing within a specific distance from the emitter.

[@davido9208]

Radar tech directly lead to the invention of the microwave oven in the 50's I believe.

[@jerishigan6567]

A major difference between Russia and Grim Reapers is GR actually has pilots to fly missions.

[@grimreapers]

oof

[@jaymac7203]

And operating aircraft 😭 lol

[@austinpowers8550]

This has nothing to do with the game. How you said you have an old man bladder and have to pee all the time. That can be a really bad sign. I had the same thing happening so I went to the doctor. It turned out my prostate was messed up and I ended up with prostate cancer but they caught it immediately. So if I were you I would go get it checked out just in case. If you have something wrong with your prostate and they don't catch it immediately you'll be in for some of the most miserable pain you've ever had in your life!

[@Nr15121]

^^^this @grimreapers stay safe and healthy we need you around for a long time

[@Tenright77]

That Primary target is obviously the most populated Fast Food Court and Laundry Facility in U.K.... Dominos, KFC, Starbucks, and Micky D...all Must Go....

[@cockatoo010]

And Nando's! Must Save the Nando's! Literally the only place whose chicken I like. Shame that the closest Nando's to me is a 12 hour flight away

[@grimreapers]

^^ this

[@mrbojangles6156]

I was in the army as an air traffic controller in the 90’s. Definitely tons of caution signs around the radar for radiation.

[@fredflinston41]

EF-111 Cockpits have gold shielding and pilots have special suits

[@andyf4292]

if the photon's wavelength isn't short enough to concentrate it's energy on a single atom, it can't dump enough power to kick an electron out < ionizing the atom>.. all it can do is heat the target up. If the photon is REALLY high energy, a gamma ray it can break a nucleus and cause radioactivity

[@SheepDogNumber6]

Always such a nice polite intro. I look forward to it. Thank you.

[@jordanvangundy975]

15 seconds in and I’m gonna say it now: if you use humans or set the skill to max for the Russian SEAD pilots, that’s completely unrealistic considering Russia doesn’t have dedicated SEAD units and their pilots train on it every once in a while.

[@M3PH11]

everytime Matrix speaks i listen..... hard. If i can't listen hard i pause the video till i can. Also, i love how Cap thought he was so awesome with his 20-30 second range for time on target and then Matrix effectively says "LOL! newb" And yes Radar will not give you cancer but it might just cook you from the inside out if you are in front of a powerful one long enough. I used to work with high power satellite dishes and i have seen one make fromage frais out of a strawberry yogaurt from 10 metres away in less than 15 minutes (exact time unknown we *were* working but it was like taking a plate of food out of 1000W microwave that had been running for like 5 minutes. almost burn your hand level hot.)

[@Wyomingchief]

Man these kind of scenarios are the best motivation. I've been at patreon supporter for a while now, and hoping that I can get good enough to take part in some of your donator projects

[@grimreapers]

Yup come join in please! Donator's mission tomorrow 1900UTC.

[@woodlanditguy2951]

SU-34 is such a fantastic aircraft. If the states had them, I would for sure love to fly that plane. super comfortable and super deadly, what's not to like?

[@cmbishop21]

I was stationed at White Sands, and I have seen several missiles fired. Navy RIM 116, ATACMS, Patriot, MLRS. When we did internal blocks, you would be very close to the launch site, and they shook the ground. Very loud. More like a PALADIN firing than a whoosh.

[@TheJimtanker]

When I first flew in to Osan in Korea in '89, they had Hawks and quad .50s on 2 1/2 ton trucks. Amazing how things have changed.

[@28boudreaux]

Several things about this one, but I'll limit to the most important... Sock, sorry you've gotten the "Beer" virus. It's just like anything else, and is different for everyone. I've had it 3 times, biproduct of my job. That said, the first time was early on in the "threat" and was the worst of the three. I personally feel like I'd rather have it than the "old time" flu. Next, does Matrix have his own channel? I'd love to see much more content from him!!!!! Love his insight on things and the experience he brings to the content. Lastly, I love the work guys and PLEASE keep it up. I personally enjoy the missions and campaign type stuff that y'all do the most, especially the SEAD stuff. That said, I really enjoy all of the content for the most part. Thank you all for doing what you do. I've had some thoughts on things that I'd like to pass along about certain things, but haven't heard back from friends that are still in the Navy as to what exactly that I can say from things that I learned while obtaining my ESWS qualification. Which most of it should be public knowledge, but.... That said, I will find a way to send stuff in a non public way once I get told what I can and can't say.

[@football_Habbibibi]

They should create a decoy missle, like its cheap and its meant to get shot down, to drain the AA systems

[@Nr15121]

We have that! They’ve used them in a lot of missions

[@Nr15121]

Malds are the us version

[@uhspagettspookedya]

"I know it's ugly but it's also sexy" -- Cap on the SU-34 Fullback design. A+

[@gendo1]

The Official Simba Fan Club would like to point out ukrainian's are already in ohio learning the PAC system! This will effecitvely create a no-fly zone over ukraine and will push the russians further into a corner. Lobbing their cruise missles will no longer be effective and more expensive weapon systems will surely be brought out. This is only the beginning.

[@simba1113]

can't argue with that. the fan club has spoken.

[@grimreapers]

How can I become a member of official Simba fanclub?

[@gendo1]

@@grimreapers Cap lets be honest any member of GR is already a member of The Official Simba Fanclub! Just ask damp or sock next stream! (No one will pay them off)

[@simba1113]

@@gendo1 hahahah.

[@Benfbdnhdsjjfhehd]

Only in ohio💀💀

[@TeamYankee2]

When doing some antenna work(R Sigs) at height in Troodos (Cyprus) the RAF guys had to lock out the radar from sweeping across us when were up a ladder... we also had to wear an RF dosimeter to measure exposure. The radar beam can cook your soft tissues, and fry your eyes... not nice at all!

[@theoneneo5024]

As Napoleon said "quantity is a quality all its own". Throw enough of anything at a target and you eventually win.

[@Archer89201]

One layer of defense you forgot would be Manpads and AAA like ZSU-23-2 and KPVs

[@Mystical922]

@@nc1609 in this scenario they were in range

[@Mystical922]

@@nc1609 that’s what the Patriot is for force them low into man pads and IRIS-T so either way you lose. US air defense covers all envelopes

[@alleycatsphinx]

Ugh 16:48.... I'm the dude who sent the pic in front of the real grim reaper, btw. It's a real thing I'm helping others with, and it's sad. ;.;

[@technicalfool]

Hard UV is where radiation starts to ionise stuff, so yes, radar systems are well below ionising wavelengths. They're varying degrees of microwave. Now if you had a UVC LIDAR, that might be different, but that would also be moderately insane. If someone made an X ray or Gamma ray radar, that would be ionising, but also probably bonkers. (Fun fact: The modern microwave oven has its roots in radar research, with the possibly apocryphal tale of an engineer noticing the chocolate bar in his pocket melting near a particularly beefy radar antenna.)

[@j4s0n39]

RADAR, like any other EM radiation, including light, is photons. Only high frequency radiation (like X-rays, gamma rays, and cosmic rays) is an ionizing risk. Radiation with a lower frequency than visible light (like TV and radio) is not ionizing, but does contain a great deal of energy and can cook nearby objects, like a microwave oven.

[@TheJuggtron]

The SU25 autopilot has a mind of its own, you can't put any manual input in without it compensating, then once disabled it keeps the compensation.

[@letsgetsteve]

Why not put random MANPADS around the AO to make it more realistic? I think it would be interesting to see how it changes the actions as well as add a bit to the hilarity.

[@mikes-qk1sh]

I agree add MANPADS

[@phaioncirrus3818]

because it's unrealistic, Ukraine doesn't have any manpads left, they sold them all on the darknet or traded them for food

[@letsgetsteve]

@@phaioncirrus3818 That's a terrible comment. Try Botting harder...

[@phaioncirrus3818]

@@letsgetsteve it's true though. there's literal video proof showing them selling off all their best equipment for food. You want to see, clown? I can post it for you

[@letsgetsteve]

@@phaioncirrus3818 I don't need to see your propaganda videos Mr troll. Move along.

[@djzoodude]

Radar is indeed non-ionizing radiation. It's basically just radio waves. Non-ionizing means that the photons done have enough energy to create ions, which are atoms that have gained or lost an electron. They also don't have energy to break the bonds in your DNA, which means they can't cause mutations which might lead to cancer.

[@matthewhall6288]

Yes, radar is on the "red" end of the electromagnetic spectrum. Ionizing radiation is above ultraviolet (X and gamma rays).

[@mrjava66]

Radar IS non ionizing radiation. 15:40 visible light and longer wavelengths are non ionizing. Ultraviolet and shorter wave wavelengths ARE ionizing. Basically, as per Einstein’s first noble prize, each photon has to have more energy than the binding energy of an outer electron.

[@CMDRSweeper]

Closest case I have heard of relating to "radar" damage was the Norwegian KNM "Kvikk" case back in the 90s. Basically children of someone that had served on the boat showed genetic damage and birth defects in their children and they had both served on the same ship. Of course, while that boat was scrapped before they could do reconstruction of it, the current biggest culprit that is suspected was the paint. Since during its service, it was a ship that had a lot of camo paint experimentation going on, which of course contained a nice toxic cocktail including lots of mercury to mention one of them. Naturally painted by the crew, so that was a logical exposure.

[@Flankymanga]

36:35 and then they came up with Kinzhal and every Patriot site got chills down their spine....

[@concinnus]

How's that been working out?

[@kurisuuu48]

Just one addition: Germany has agreed to send one Patriot-battery as well (not sure which version though)

[@phaioncirrus3818]

there's now 1. patriot 2. SAMP/T 3. IRIS-T 4. NASAMS 5. Hawk 6. Crotale NG 7. Aspide 8. Stormer 9. Avenger and more all already been sent or in discussions to be sent soon to ukraine

[@Zen-lf7zr]

The way ionizing radiation works is that the amount doesn't matter it's the frequency that does. So you could get hit by an enormous amount of "radiation" (like we do all the time from space and the sun) and unless it is higher than the frequency needed to ionize human atoms, it won't have any effect on your body.

[@BruhMomentPatrick]

Also, a family relative of mine was lucky enough to see a patriot intercepting a Su-24!

[@phaioncirrus3818]

yea sure

[@ryanpayne7707]

14:56: There's also a galley on the other side. 15:38: Non-ionizing. They use microwaves, which are on the complete opposite end of the electromagnetic spectrum from ionizing radiation. Visible light is more energetic, per photon, than microwaves. That being said, radars put out a ton of photons that, while harmless individually, are hazardous in large doses. They won't damage your DNA, but every watt of RF energy that gets absorbed by your body has to go somewhere- and that's into heat. So you won't get any genetic mutations, but you will be cooked alive. 17:17: Photons. Neutrons are massive and, by definition, can not move at the speed of light. Thanks to mass energy equivalence, a massive object (neutron) would need infinite energy to move at the speed of light. Neutrons are not force carrier particles for electromagnetic radiation. Instead, they are unstable subatomic particles (half life of ~15m when free of nucleus) that can transmute a stable isotope into a radioactive one.

[@dexlab7539]

Always good to prove that Nothing is Invincible!

[@ryanerickson8138]

Interested to see what’s next in the “We wanted to win” series 😆

[@3idraven714]

Great vid! There is a AN/FPS-132 (UEWR) radar in Taiwan, I worked on it (constr) it's on Google maps (it's a copy of the site in Thule, Greenland). I'd like to see a Chinese Campaign simulation of some sort, with that added in. Talking to the radar techs, they can see and ID tanks (ground, line of sight) at 300 miles, no info on air targets (OPSEC), but it tracks satellites, any ballistic missiles. Talking to the Taiwanese guys on the jobsite (including mil folks) that would be the first target hit, at the opening of hostilities. There were alarm sirens and strobes, on the roof of the support buildings, you had 1 minute to get off the roof, or you would be toasted to a crisp, in a few sec, from the waste up, if you were there when they switched it on.

[@3idraven714]

They just completed another in Qatar also (add to Persian Gulf Campaigns???).

[@3idraven714]

One in Poland also.

[@jamesgaudio466]

I used to launch MLRS, I was a crewmember in 1989.

[@phaioncirrus3818]

which one

[@rolinthor]

17:04 photons, yes. radar is light in the radio part of the spectrum.

[@timhaast]

Came for the SEAD mission, stayed for the physics lecture.

[@13deadghosts]

The Gepard turret actually weighs 12 metric tons :P And with the 1A2 they switched the ammo from HEI to FAPDS (for higher muzzle velocity), extending the range to 5,5km. But seems like your gepards where bugged, given that they did't engage anything. Also, the iris-t slm TEL holds 8 missiles compared to the 4 of the iris-t sls TEL.

[@Liguehunters]

Too bad the Gepards didint really work. Would be awesome to atleast have the 3x8 Iris-T of the IRIS-T SLM in Ukraine

[@Kevin-hb7yq]

Early micro-wave ovens were called 'Radar Ranges' for a reason. Cool strike package! Where was Blue Air?

[@timgoss]

Great sim guys! Thank you Cap!

[@timgoss]

Hey cap unable to send a message to the link you posted on KZbin. It’s asking for phone numbers to add contacts and no mention of messaging groups

[@subjectc7505]

Russian aircraft blue burners have a chemical in them , that makes them turn blue. I forgot what it was called

[@BruhMomentPatrick]

There has been a case of air defense soldiers getting sick (nausea, vomiting, diarrhea) every time they went next to the radar when it was active. 3 of them got cancer.

[@MWSin1]

You know, if they're going to demolish a building anyway, they might as well invite the air force to get some practice while putting on a hell of a show for the people on the ground.

[@greybuckleton]

I do believe you are right about aircraft radars. X band radio for aircraft detection and microwave for weather radars. Weather radars are dangerous enough that I am not supposed to operate it within 30m of people or flammable objects. But they are still not specifically ionizing radiation, you cook your food with it after all.

[@Gozar111]

I stood on a tank when a multiple missile launcher started. The thing that gets you the most is the speed with which they bugger off. As I tracked one I fell on my ass on the turret as you cannot track it that fast!

[@zevynozevyn4102]

The Russian swept-wing aircraft reminds me of an f-111 aardvark, might the f-111 aardvark be in DCS. If so is there any missions that could be done with it.

[@13deadghosts]

VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK :P

[@liquidgoose1518]

About that huge tail Su-34 has I was told some years ago by people who actually fly this thing, initially Su-34 was planned to have an ASW capability (or at least there should have been an ASW variant which was developed first) and house a magnetometer in there in order to locate submarines, but this idea was scrapped when the plane was almost complete. So they have decided to use this space to shove in as much chaff as possible, so yeah, now it houses a chute and tons of chaff. Its one of the reasons why this plane is nicknamed "duck" by the pilots (a male duck, to be precise "селезень", because in Russian there are separate words for a female and a male duck). This story about magnetometer might just be a myth, was not able to find any confirmation, in Russian or English.

[@juliusfucik4011]

Interesting! Just FYI, English has the generic word "duck". A female duck is a hen. A male duck is called a "mallard".

[@TheAddanz]

@@juliusfucik4011 A Male Duck is a DRAKE. Mallard is a species of duck "Anas platyrhynchos"

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!

[@johnsmith-gk4td]

Meanwhile, Putin and Shoigu are frantically taking notes while arguing with each other.

[@federicorodriguez5705]

This is the perfect moment to include Khinzal misiles as a first strike or maybe simultaneous. Another thing, the distance of firing the missiles is too far you actually fire them at the limit of no escape zone of the missiles, not at the radar reach limit. Also do you have kh-69 in your repertoar? I heard they were preparing to using them in the conflict.

[@FeatheredDino]

It would appear the Patriot system is extremely underperforming in DCS. The success rates of the Patriot in Kuwait, Iraq, and other conflicts shows it's a fantastic SAM

[@IcdBlade]

Neutrons flying off at the speed of light is radioactive decay, I believe, Cap.

[@jamesd4013]

No turbofans....all turbojets. Great video

[@darrellseike3185]

Radars use wavelengths far longer than ionizing radiation, such as X-Rays and UV. They emit, loosely, in the microwave region of the spectrum.

[@darrellseike3185]

They are photons. All EM made of photons of varying wavelengths. The shorter the wavelength, the more energy a photon has.

[@chuckd9007]

Only flaw with this sim is assuming all russian pilots have ace level skills, which we know they dont, they dont get enough seat time and most of their jets will have mid flight system malfunctions.

[@phaioncirrus3818]

actualy that's wrong, the average Russian pilot now has more yearly flight time than the average american pilot which have downscaled in recent years to 90-100, while Russian pilots are up at 120 flight hours per year. So Russian pilots at this point are superior to their american counterparts which explains the huge amount of crashes of American jets in the past couple years. But nice try quoting obsolete info from 2005

[@chuckd9007]

@Phaion Cirrus its known fact russian jets are not reliable. If the russian pilots are so superior and their jets actually work well, then why are they absent from the war in ukraine? If america attacked ukraine their ability to fight back effectively wouldve ended within days as opposed to russia which is going to take years to accomplish the same thing.

[@Nr15121]

@@phaioncirrus3818 😂😂😂😂 clown 🤡 we found the Putin bot lmao

[@phaioncirrus3818]

@@chuckd9007 it's a known fact that american jets are far less reliable. The U.S. has lost way more jets in the past year alone in peacetime than Russia has EVER lost in its existence. And its' a confirmed fact that Russian pilots now have more yearly hours of flighttime than americans. I have the official figures from both sides, so get a brain son

[@phaioncirrus3818]

@@chuckd9007 btw you're wrong. "If america attacked Ukraine.." haha America attacked a MUCH WEAKER country than Ukraine in the 90's in Serbia and they couldn't take out their AD. The official figure (From the U.S., mind you) is that in the 3 months of air war the U.S. took out only 50% of Serbia's AD. Russia has already taken out 75-85% of Ukrainian AD (and it's a much more advanced AD). So yes Russia has actually done way better SEAD/DEAD than U.S. has ever done in its history, proving that Russian airforce is superior to U.S.

[@RMartin631]

You might get a chance to see those explosions in real life, if the US keeps poking that Red Bear. We have no way of knowing what Putin is thinking.

[@YTPeregrine]

“If it’s got a wanker, it’s a Flanker.” 😂

[@quiionexto]

I know this is not talking about the type 055 but I’m really interested in the capability of it.

[@marshalljulie3676]

There's already a video about it made before this one

[@baldis12]

You forgot they allso have the nasams now..

[@cg9952]

Electrons, not neutrons. The are RF frequency exposure guidelines. RF will cause a nasty burn.

[@deanmitchell4233]

I have to say that I love the fullback, so beautiful...

[@martinjones12]

I've seen with my own eyes a patriot hit a Raf tornado at night in Gulf War 2 , the only RAF loss.... brutal and terrifying as we were airborne and flying RTB, as was the tornado..... the patriot battery was in full "auto" mode,,,ie: no human intervention at the time ( the patriot crew were "tired" after their deployment!) so, as one tornado of a pair, flying RTB was not squaking a mode 4 IFF, the patriot battery engaged it,,,,,,,,,(full auto mode) even though the tornado was in formation with a buddy that WAS squaking a good mode 4 IFF................ hhhhmmmm, if only a human was awake at the patriot site....... that was a VERY tense transit back to base, constantly testing and re-testing our own mode4 .......

[@Nr15121]

Flying formation isn’t good enough everyone has to follow proper procedures or they die, or worse kill a friendly or civilian. Both the tornado and patriot bear the blame

[@rojamno]

26:29 ive watched so many times lmao😂

[@Squirl513]

For a lower cost AA option, does dcs have avengers in game?

[@cockatoo010]

I think so. Pretty sure that there was an avenger in the GR NATO SAM video. It may have been a linebacker, I don't quite remember

[@grimreapers]

Yup we got Avenger.

[@billwhoever2830]

"Would you see a Russian strike as big as this in real life? No. This is early cold war strike, you wouldnt have this nowdays its just NOT COST EFFECTIVE." Meanwhile the defensive weapons wasted cost 5 times as much and the very important target is destroyed as well. I guess its very cost effective if Russia has the equipment to pull it through. It might not work out so easily in real life or Russia might not want to risk the pilots for a target that might not realy worth it. Even if cruise missiles cost more, they are 100% safe to use. A kalibr is only 900k per missile and they are latest tech land attack cruise missiles, realy cant see a reason why not to use cruise missiles even if some patriots are sent (I think 2 batteries are about to be sent).

[@terryboyer1342]

Sheesh. Caps still sore that the colonists declared independence.

[@SlavicCelery]

So you proved the merits of the Zapp Brannigan attack methodology.

[@coyohte]

IRIS-T missiles are infrared homing. How did they track the incoming KH-58 missiles since the KH-58s had already burned off all of the fuel, hence just balistic at final approach.

[@simonmills7859]

You boys were well, O P, for that sim!

[@hobog]

I guess ionisation knocks neutrons in your body out of the body or to other atoms in the body where they shouldn't be. I haven't made sure of this though

[@trcostan]

What do you put the launchers so close to the radar? Also you need 100 or 200 soldiers with Manpads running around

[@grimreapers]

Fair comment.

[@planespottingfargo1174]

what aircraft did Matrix flyin the RAF? GR4 possibly?

[@grimreapers]

Jag.

[@planespottingfargo1174]

@@grimreapers such a sexy beast the Jag

[@michaelrowland828]

Cap good video, however the flights would have to watch out for shoulder fire Sam, vehicle heavy guns, and old Joe with his rifle.

[@jaymac7203]

They definitely shouldn't be listening to the briefing lol but awesome video as always 👏

[@Moneymyke357]

>“I heard you got the ‘rona’, is that right?” -“Yeah, that’s true” >“Embarrassing “

[@jansenart0]

Of course, the point of a Patriot site is to buy time to scramble.

[@inside98]

I hope someone mods the Gepard so it can shoot down missles and drones. Would be cool to see all the dakka.

[@grimreapers]

Yeh that's a real weak point in game ATM

[@teresaharmon4405]

Sok your the man! Sick and all and will not let your friends down. Shout out to all the GR. Very loyal and fun group!!!!!

[@aztec0112]

I've never had any luck getting game included Patriots to work as advertised. I did quite a bit of testing and the results were awful with a PK

[@GageEakins]

That's because the game included Patriots are the old PAC-1 and DCS actually underestimates how good the patriot actually is.

[@xx-ui2gm]

EDIT: And this is what i get for not watching the entire video before commenting, here is it anyway LMAO I know for a fact that strong radar energy is not ionizing, it's only up to several Ghz range, meaning it can't damage DNA. But it can be bad for you or feel uncomfortable as it's heating up whatever it passes through, so they turn it off on the ground (and i presume a2a refueling too) to not microwave the ground/tanker crew. Even devices like two-way radios, cell phones and cell towers, wifi access points will do this. There are regulatory limits to body absorption as measured from a cellphone and a lot of wifi access points and wireless routers come with compliance booklets warning to turn the device off before coming closer than around 25-30cm to it. Also some of you might have seen a picture of one or more cats on a starlink dish, they just like the warmth of a transmitter powerful enough to be understood by a receiver in orbit