How To Install Motorized Bicycle Rag Joint Sprocket Heavy Duty Wheel

How To Install Motorized Bicycle Rag Joint Sprocket on Heavy Duty Wheel
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[@Cruise-InTV]

Masking tape bolts into sprocket while fitting all the rags, plates, and nuts. That tip helped me a lot. #bikelife

[@jasonwelch3400]

Hey Eugene, all your videos have been great and help me build a couple of bikes. First one I built, was for my dad, and I miss riding it so much that I had to build another one for myself. Now I'm building one for my girlfriend but this one's a four stroke the last two were two strokes. Some people just don't get it, on these builds, now all my builds are with huffy beach cruisers and I've had no problems. One of these days I'd love to have you build me a board track racer with a 4 stroke engine, with a in tank frame. Thanks for the videos Jason.

[@HughesMotorized]

Hit me up. I've been busy. I havent had the time to build myself a bike in the last 8 months

[@seanrallis6714]

good tutorial. If you are in a hurry, or don't care about maybe replacing the rear wheel within the year, you can also simply remove the dust cap and throw it out.

[@SincertyPatrick]

excelent way of tighten the bolts up, my Sprocket was bending a little bit makeing my chain go from hard to loose. tomorrow i'll try this way, thank you very much!

[@bradcrowdis7926]

Thanks for the tips, I`ve got 4 tanks ran thru 40 to 1 keeps the plug clean , I also went with a 52 tooth sprocket I`m a little hefty, and used better quality bolts for my rag joint, so far so good

[@RAPBEATS4BEATS]

Thank you so much fam, you really helped me out, I'm about to build a motorbike and needed help with understanding the sprocket part and you helped me with that and more resourceful tips, thank you for taking your time out of your day to show us that :)

[@VirantRoss]

*So far this has been the best video walk through on youtube. Actually walking me through as Im doing it.. BikeBerry crap isnt very realistic.* So thankyou. I think I have seen you in the facebook groups..?

[@HughesMotorized]

Thank you. I'm gearing up for some cool toys

[@HughesMotorized]

I lurk a little on FB.. Thank you.. More to come. Going to start live casting soon and have some new motorized toys to do soon.

[@jeffreystroman2811]

Pro tip, if you get rid of those cages you can fit all the bearings that should be in there. Just use some thick grease to hold them in during assembly, local hardware should have loose bearings same size as those in your caged ones.

[@WizardsMagic007]

Thanks for this video. I bought a 49cc bike off of craigslist for $60. Worked fine for a week and then the chain popped off. The rear wheel bearings got a little bit loose. Also the sprocket is at an angle. Wasn't sure how to adjust everything until I seen this video.

[@yogidemis8513]

I had problems installing the sprocket due to a few spokes being in the way and going off center when when starting to tighen the bolts followed the instructions. After a hour or so of being frustrated so I came up with a idea to use a socket that fit perfectly in the center of the sprocket hole and made sure that was centered, (it basically centered itself) and of course used the tire nut to tighen the socket down tight on the hub and then the sprocket was very much centered and I could tighen up the socket to the spokes with sprocket staying in the center. I'm sure it could be off by a millimeter or two but when I measured everything when done I couldn't tell if it was off centered. No problems peddling or running the engine at top speed.

[@bernieolivera5632]

If you don't want to bend the brake arm you can exchange the bolts with round head hex bolts. Helped me! To verify if your sprocket is concentric with the wheel, measure from the center stud to the valley between the teeth at several apposing locations. You can tap the sprocket with a rubber mallet to help move it around, as your tightening the bolts. Great Hobby!

[@rodneygagnon9381]

This is like the 3rd time I've seen people having to grind out the center of a new sprocket and or the dust cap as well to get shit to fit on standard hubs and shit over years timeframe? Are you telling me they still don't just make sprockets inside diameters by the millimeter that just freaking bolt on? Geez, drag racers wouldn't put up with that shit for this long. God bless you. 😢

[@Hellfire76]

I bought a skyhawk gt5 at yardsale for 40.00 plus 10.00 nice frame of craigslist been a blast well worth the money alot of fun great video thanks .

[@billstrube3425]

I never use a rag joint. I spend the 15 or 20 dollars for a hub adapter. Faster, stronger, and much easier to install. I have never bent a spoke, or had a failure. Good luck with your builds.

[@HughesMotorized]

I'd rather spend the $20 on a good bottle of vino. However do what keeps you on the road. I went thru hell figuring out ragjoints but once you figure it out, they are solid

[@paulrogers5844]

Where at on bikeberry 49 dollars plus need to order the sprocket 75 for all

[@reynaldoaleman1602]

Hi guys, I ported and polished, plus give me more torque and my cnc aluminum adapter I paid $30 Buck broken my 12 gauge spokes so I back to the Rag Joints and worked perfectly,

[@cajunnick822]

This video was really helpful. I've been looking at how to do this and couldn't find a good detailed video. Thank you for making a quality video! :)

[@HughesMotorized]

Glad it was helpful!

[@josebarbosa-rj1il]

muito bom esse vídeo bem explicado procurei vídeos assim aqui no Brasil e não achei parabéns

[@davidmccoy8500]

jose barbosa Speak English!

[@jrock420cfh]

I used about 6 to 8 small zip ties and Loosely sat them around the sprocket while the rim and tire laid flat. It went in perfectly and afterwards all I did was cut the zip ties as close as I could get to the sprocket

[@cherps7242]

this was a very helpful video. I love that it is raw. Keep up the good work

[@HughesMotorized]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Moukarimies1]

Thanks for guide, i have been desparated with these thing. Two fly at one hit.

[@sparkiegarage8083]

I found out that using the wheel’s axle for how many turns I do for each bolt helps keep things pretty accurate

[@thebrokeway9838]

wpeople dont like the rag joint but i do..I didnt at first but after you get your method down its all cake and they are soooo cheap and work great..if im browsing and catch one for sale for 5 to 7 bucks i order it and just put a back wheel together for standby I have 4 standby a now..take care and peace

[@ryangevaert9075]

If you have the dust cap on you can use zip ties as shins so it doesn’t move too much it works great

[@HughesMotorized]

good idea. thanks

[@ShortCrypticTales]

the best thing to do when you put on your washer and lock washer is to dip them into the grease to hold them on also painters tape on the heads of the bolts will help you hold them as you put everything together

[@ramirogomez1755]

The easy way to align the sprocket , with small pipe the diameter of the outside hub and a washer with the inside nut diameter you can push and align almost perfect the sprocket,in my case my sprocket inside diameter was a about 1/8 bigger than the outside hub so I use electrical tape Araund the hub to fit the gap,the align was pretty easy. I’m not and English speaker but hope it help .

[@hirockn]

Please tell me the size of the chain on the engine side.

[@HughesMotorized]

Stock is 415, Better one that fits is #41 and best one (expensive) is #420

[@aldenunion]

Also,he's correct,book says dish in,but then its to close to wheel.I had to switch mine like his here.FOLLOW THIS GUYS VIDEO!!!

[@benm2046]

Wow I've been looking for a video like this for the last 2 hours you call it a rag bar yeah I'm having the same problem but now I got the solution

[@jerryjames4044]

Just one suggestion how to use a piece of wood and a hammer to center the sprocket instead of just a hammer

[@channelnumberv]

This was a good video. However the viewer who does not have experience with how to tighten bearings in would probably do better to leave them alone, and just trust the amount of grease in the wheel (if it's new). This guy is a pro and a newbie might do more harm than good.

[@brandonkellogg9590]

You can switch the bolts to button head bolts if you get coaster arm rub. The button heads have a slightly lower profile

[@napsum9255]

3 fingers really needed, it can take a few minutes or a few hours to get this part together, put a hole in a box, lay the rim on it, t'll keep the screws from falling out.

[@diatonicdoug6525]

I’ve always had the sprocket dished inward. How do you know which way?

[@c.rutherford]

I was hoping someone would explain how to adjust the sprocket position by tightening and loosening the bolts. It sure doesn't seem to respond the way you think with the spokes. Can't find a video on that anywhere.

[@hoverbotfpv1425]

Trying to do my 52 Roadmaster frame sure it was done in fifties but a lot to jump in modding a stock collectable.

[@raymondshrader3555]

Dont some rear tires have really small ball bearings inside the axel? If so how would you grease the axel without losing them? Because if they fall out putting them back is a near impossible task....

[@HughesMotorized]

The bearings are in a cage. Even if you did remove the cage you simply pack grease into the race and add bearings. I know some who do this

[@BigTVideos]

Excellent job, very thorough, very helpful thanks brother

[@clinteastman747]

None of the videos I've seen explains which side of the sprocket goes in towards the wheel and I've seen it done both ways. Which is best?

[@HughesMotorized]

You want it facing out to push the chain away from the tire in most applications

[@kimdecastro9156]

thank you eugene . for this video .

[@HughesMotorized]

You are very welcome

[@giuliogreco1728]

My bike doesn't have a brake arm and doesn't brake if I pedal backwards, but it can still coast without the pedals moving does this mean I also have to remove something from the hub? There is a bolt and then a slightly larger circle bolt behind it

[@robinbutler7828]

Hughes I have a beach cruiser but I have 3.0 tires on the beach cruiser and the chain is rubbing up against the 3.0 tire how can I extend the sprocket on the back so the chain will not be biting into my 3.0 tires

[@HughesMotorized]

You need to move the motor out to the left. Motor was made for 2.125 tires and you have 3". Need to move motor to left .43"

[@getparadox]

I'm glad I saw this video before the install. Thanks!

[@j1mmyth3g33k]

I noticed you didn't put the dust cover back on over the bearings. I had mine on and when I tightened down the rag joint, my wheel wouldn't turn until I loosened up the bolts because the rag joint sprocket was pushing the dust cover too tight against the bearings. So I guess it's ok to leave the dust cover off?

[@HughesMotorized]

22:05 you can see the dust cover. I suggest using it

[@wonkydonkey4371]

I never used the dust cover. Never had a problem. I do inspect the hubs every month or so. I've had bearing races disintegrate and once that happens the whole hub is shot.

[@custombikedesigns343]

I think the fact they call this a rag joint is kind of funny. It as actually a compression joint if you want a proper old fashion term. Rag joints where two shafts where they rapped rags in a direction opposite of the d direction was turning to join them with a friction hold. Compression joints where used on plates and gears if on cracked to hold a spare on or keep a broken one functional

[@ellisiii]

How can I contact you to do this for me I’m willing to pay whatever at this point I just installed my 36t and chain keeps popping off I originally bought the bike off someone

[@ranger9416]

Just installed a rag joint and noticed it pulled all the spokes to that side, making the rim not centered on the spokes. Is that normal?

[@HughesMotorized]

Not normal. I'm guessing you have a light gauge spokes on the wheel

[@robbiemclendon1047]

Building my first one..looks like i gotta take the sprocket off and turn the cone out..my kit only came w/2 brackets for the back (all holes are covered) so I tightened in a star pattern..off topic does the intake really have to be parallel to the ground? Some bikes in your other vids don't look even close to parallel...

[@HughesMotorized]

The carb needs to be somewhat level. Not perfectly level but consider the float in the carb. If you have too much an angle the float will not kepp up

[@Lookatthis93]

Will this work on a trycle.

[@rgbigdog]

Why is there not a alignment disk that bolts on to the axle that keeps the the sprocket center when you install this on your wheel? When you buy a clutch /pressure plate kit for your car they include a alignment tool with the kit.

[@dougdillard9006]

never ever will I use a rag joint. been there done that. cnc sprocket adapter is the only way to go.

[@HughesMotorized]

built 100s. My daily rider for 4 years... rag joint. NEVER a problem

[@integrationofmanandmachine4714]

I am lucky my rear wheel is naked its left side is completely free. But its body is a bit small i hope i dont have problems with installing the engine block.

[@MsAhlexusP]

You can use a 1 1/16 1/2 short well socket to hold the sproket center. While you tighten your sproket to the wheel. It also helps to make another ring to put over the 3 pieces on the inside around the hub. It keeps the 3 pieces centered and they wont over lap each other. On freewheel or cassette hubs, it's a 1inch 1/2 shortwhell socket (beach cruisers) mtb are uasllay 1 3/16 socket. Some axles are long enough to put the nut on to keep the socket centered. On some 64 tooth steel sprockets you have to use a round file. To bevel the edge. If you have a steel hub and steel sproket. You can take apart the hub. And spot weld the sproket to the hub. Just keep in mind if your running wide tires. 2.00, 2.75 etc the sproket has to be the widest spacer on the out side. Or you chain will hit your tire.

[@Lure-Benson]

All I have with this so-called rag joint is problems, so I replaced them with the aluminum billet sprocket set up that perfectly centers the sprocket in alinement. I drilled the 3 bolt holes in the 50-tooth sprocket so I could use it because I don't need speed, I need power

[@Hallarugga89]

can u do a vid installing the sprocket on a 140 spoke weal ? for a 20" lowrider bike ?

[@gardenwind4186]

What do you think of the 80cc MOTORIZED BICYCLE REAR WHEEL ADAPTER , SPROCKET UPGRADE, kits they have on EBAY Have you tried any of them?

[@HughesMotorized]

I use the rag joint as they come w/ the kits and once you have mastered them, they work just fine.Check my vid for repair chain keeps coming off

[@damensutherland7081]

I got a huffy wheel and the coaster arm is hitting the bolt heads of the sprocket .im going to put a spacer washer or bend the coaster arm to fix it but man it was a dissapointment interupted my plans

[@HughesMotorized]

Adapt and improvise. You have to bend the brake arm to make it fit on most builds

[@chambliziOfficialChannel]

I am grinding down my sprocket center to fit a nexus 3 I find the dust cover is a bit more completed then this rim.

[@charlesspierssr703]

Not need cut gear cover no just tooth hole wide will save gear cover of dust dirty only tooth gear .

[@charlesspierssr703]

I used bi÷ bring at work take lunch go home only Monday an Tuesday and Thursday some time at night with light hat hard red beam night

[@charlesspierssr703]

I love ride bike motor guess age 70 years old soon next months 12/22/1951 be 71 still ride bike motor 49cc4stroke. Great fun .not need cut gears cover no just tooth hole wide as save gears cover won't get dust dirty as clear grease cover .

[@charlesspierssr703]

I will build shopping small as bussing job ok

[@robertclerk2725]

just finist puting my 2 stroke together.the motor will spin if i push the bike backward but turn so far forward and lock up

[@pablodalisay8811]

No free wheeling on sprocket for engine?

[@michaelgarcia156]

My kit came with just the two piece mounting plate. Is that good enough or should I get the 3 piece mount?

[@HughesMotorized]

2 piece works fine

[@michaelgarcia156]

@@HughesMotorized thanks

[@danieljonhson6367]

Why don't you just tighten the bolts in a criss cross patern like you do when putting a car wheel on it worked for me.

[@joelrandle1972]

Folks! Keep in mind! The rear wheel he gives the link to. is NOT available thru the Amazon link in the description below right now.

[@HughesMotorized]

Fixed it. Looks like it's out of stock everywhere. You can get a great wheel from Husy Bicycles @ www.huskybicycles.com/bicycle-wheel-26-x-2125-with-coaster-brake-12g-spokes.html

[@joelrandle1972]

@@HughesMotorized Ty mine is definitely NOT anywhere near heavy duty enough. Greatly appreciated

[@joelrandle1972]

@@HughesMotorized you misunderstood... MINE on my bike isn't heavy enough! That's how I found out your link was bad. Because I was going to order one......

[@HughesMotorized]

@@joelrandle1972 My foot tastes funny. Ooops

[@brandonmaster7060]

Will this work with 60spoke wheels?

[@kriscolbert2732]

What if i only have the two plates with the 4 holes but not the 3 plates with 3 holes

[@richardsaddress580]

This is very helpful, sir

[@HughesMotorized]

Glad to hear that

[@seanrallis6714]

can someone tell me what the brake arm is? I've never seen this part on any bikes I've worked on.

[@HughesMotorized]

Try Google. Try KZbin. Don't bee an azz. www.google.com/search?q=coaster+brakew+arm&oq=coaster+brakew+arm&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13l2j0i22i30l4j0i390l2.5377j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[@CreativeM35]

Im having issues with mine, when i remove the brake arn the whole thing comes out. the arm seems to be attached with the bearing. it doesnt come off like the one you have. Do i need to buy another wheel or how do i remove it? its a beach cruiser and it brakes by pushing the pedals backwards

[@HughesMotorized]

+Imnobody_x You might have an odd hub. I suggest you google it and see what repair steps are

[@undeadpriest]

i am so glad adapters are a thing now. never again will i EVER have to deal with one of these rag joint sprocket installations. hate them hate them hate them

[@newsnowpermianbasin8977]

Do you build and sell custom bikes with motor installed? Tried your website but couldn't find anything.

[@HughesMotorized]

I used to but too many other people doing it and selling them real cheap I got out of the game. now I just build what I like and do my KZbin thang

[@Hallarugga89]

now if u dont have the eqipmint to do the mods on the dust cover or the sprocket could i just use a barring cover . like off of a neather bike ?

[@dougsr8745]

You don't need to grind off the dust cover cause the sprocket never gets that close to the wheel...the rubber keeps the sprocket off the wheel.

[@larryhills8766]

dougsr8745 Just put mine together today (twice) and can feel an hear somethings wrong have boiled it down to dust cover. Sprocket has it smashed together an creating lots of friction. Watched a few vids an some get rid of it an this guy ground it off. Pick ur poison. Guess I'm getting ready for round three SMDH

[@MrJameslewis530]

Wheelchair wheels on a motorized bike?

[@donovanswift5010]

Why

[@ireland66613]

Hi there great video saved me ton of time as a newby. Quick question I'm running 700c wheels what is your Recommendation for gear size I live mostly hilly area Thank you

[@HughesMotorized]

You might even want to try a 50 tooth sprocket I'd guess

[@ireland66613]

@@HughesMotorized thank you much appreciated

[@charlesspierssr703]

Schwinn 49cc4stroker been ride 4 month old fun my work off lunch go home 52 mile as Hammond, la to Kentwood,la one hour 20 min .

[@charlesspierssr703]

I have another brand new bike name rock creek huffy 18 speed need 212cc 4stroke will fit yes

[@charlesspierssr703]

Are u runner 700cc4 stroke?.

[@eab84]

The 12 gauge spokes and rim width make that heavy duty wheel appear to be strong, but how does the axle hold up against bending? Chromoly or regular steel?

[@samhain6953]

No reply.. big surprise

[@tristan64nightfuty92]

Thx so much I got it done

[@johnwade5747]

Great video! In the old days,(I started building motorbikes in 1968 or so,8th grade) I never had trouble with the spoke's rings coming off of the hub!China bikes arent welded to the hub.They are pressed onto a fine 'splined' edge. Their brngs.are suspect,at best.Thank God for The welder.Most of my bikes are antique,but I do have some with cheap rims.Check 'em out! John wade,you tube.thanks.

[@cindymobley1227]

I have a 12g freewheel but the rag joint won't fit

[@Alhaneef1444]

What kind of spokes 2 mm normal or 3 mm reinforced

[@HughesMotorized]

12 ga spokes = 2.6mm

[@joneserupinsmoke9161]

A good tip .I use zip ties all the way ard it in case it moves its all gopd

[@robertcdicus9223]

Anyone no where to get a replacement shim for the wide crank sprocket? The one on the kit stripped out & fell on the road somewhere?

[@HughesMotorized]

Post some pics on my Facebook page Hughes Motorized

[@cwmaxfield2000]

Shouldn't the rear wheel be tuned first ? If the spokes arent correct I dont see how the sprocket can be. Im tune both wheels before I even look at the engine. 2 cents worth.

[@frozenthorn9619]

+HoustonMotorized A coaster brake hub's pedals will spin with the wheel right? How do you stop that without switching to a freewheel? It looks like the suggest wheel would have that problem? Nobody wants the pedals to spin when the motor takes over, seems dangerous, what am i missing?

[@HughesMotorized]

+Frozen Thorn Coaster brake will not force the pedals to move. With or without a motor. If it does you have a problem

[@tankscrittersandurbanhomes5579]

Wouldn't it be easier to put the washer on the outside?

[@HughesMotorized]

lockwasher is to go under the hex nut

[@ghara8567]

Thank you sir

[@HughesMotorized]

Welcome

[@daniellambus4473]

In need of some advice from some of you guys out there" or girls" I bought a Kit motor and it says to complete the pancake part of it you take the two pieces of rubber cut one in between the holes slide it in no problem then you take three pieces of metal put it up against that rubber on the inside of the spokes and press some up against another piece of rubber in there and connect those three pieces of metal to two pieces of metal two plates rounded plate with holes in them so that would complete your pancake but mine didn't come with that mine came with just the three pieces of metal you know the rounded curved metal with three holes in each one to make the nine hole pattern so do I go ahead and use just those three pieces or am I supposed to go out and buy some buy those other two plates somewhere else or some some other way to do this can somebody please help me with this I'm really stuck

[@HughesMotorized]

Make it look just like shown in the video. If you still have issues, take some good pics and post on my facebook group facebook.com/groups/hughesmotorized

[@larryshaver3568]

do you sell wheels with heavier spokes?If so how much?

[@HughesMotorized]

Those are hard to find lately. I like the wheels on the huffy cranbrook. Worth it to buy one and just use the wheels

[@brucenichols9153]

Excellent thanks

[@JAGoodwin84]

I've started my first motorized bike build and I've ran into a huge headache. hoping you can help me. I ordered a Huffy Panama Jack off Amazon. When it arrived, the rear wheel was bent horribly. I wasn't too concerned because I planned to change the rims anyway to something more sturdy. I ended up purchasing a Weinmann AS7X set on line with a 3 speed Nexus Hub. The sprocket that came with my Flying Horse 66cc/80cc kit will not fit over the Nexus hub. To make matters even more difficult, the hub will not fit between the wheel slots on the bike. My wife has a Huffy Regatta and it came with the 3 speed Nexus Hub. I assumed the same set up would fit on the Panama Jack. what can I do to get this right?

[@HughesMotorized]

Manic Mechanic sells custom hub adapters

[@yoavmoshe2065]

Does the sprocket has a direction? Or I can turn it over?

[@yoavmoshe2065]

??

[@lakeside441]

Why did you install the sprocket backwards?

[@HughesMotorized]

no...not backwards

[@codycastro8083]

what type of grease is best to use?

[@scottvan1898]

only bicycles

[@paulawestcott7228]

This is a hassle very old system, install the upgrade rear hub bracket n sprocket kit way better setup n performance.

[@HughesMotorized]

I've built at least 100. Never a problem once I learned the correct way to install it. The hub adapter ones can bend spokes and deform wheel. If on a budget or simply a cheapskate like me the rag joint works fine.

[@stevemccullars8500]

Awesome

[@debonairecatalina6570]

this video helped sooooooooo much! thank you!

[@Jim-ee6pz]

Check out eBay for the 'Easy sprocket assembly tool'. You'll need a little drum sander on a Dremel or drill to modify your sprocket hole but it's easy and makes sprocket installation a snap.

[@timothyaldrich1849]

He has it mounted opposite of the way I've been doing it

[@honorb4glory606]

The best way to use a rag joint sprocket is to throw it in the trash, then get a hub mount.

[@HughesMotorized]

I've built 100s. Once you master a rag joint. You good. been riding my daily rider for 4 years now. Rag joint never an issue

[@honorb4glory606]

HoustonMotorized, good point. I was using a rag joint on an aluminum rim.

[@HughesMotorized]

They both have their pluses and minuses. I'd prefer a steel wheel with machined in mounting holes as part of the hub. Expensive, so.. No go for me. Too cheap. But.... I'll go to Husky Bike's website. They sell Industrial bikes and parts. They sell heavy steel wheels w/ 11ga spokes and even a moped style front hub brake w/ 11ga spokes and heavy steel wheels and use a rag joint on the rear coaster one

[@honorb4glory606]

Paul Metcalf, I weigh 180 pounds, I've used my adapter on two different wheels with no slippage, and those three bolts are 3/8" thick and are made of hardened steel. Almost everything you said is wrong.

[@charlesspierssr703]

I have bike motor good great as clutch broke bolt lose need get new as order two clutch coming n g Wednesday 9th November.

[@davejames2015]

Hmm gotta be another way to mount the sprocket

[@chambliziOfficialChannel]

48 people didn't register their brake arm now they have no license lol

[@luke-lq9yd]

Chamblizi The All Mighty! LMAO

[@THETRUTHZ]

i think its called flash not trash :)