Human Torch VS Iceman | Who Wins?

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DanCo

DanCo

6 жыл бұрын

The Human Torch vs Iceman! Fire vs Ice! Two polar opposites going head to head! Fight Fight Fight! Buzz words Buzz words Buzz words! Watch my video!
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@piercemchugh4509
@piercemchugh4509 6 жыл бұрын
I love how the movies make these heroes seem so simple, but in the comics they are all so overpowered and complicated.
@silverrain99205
@silverrain99205 3 жыл бұрын
That's the one thing I don't understand
@PhillipP93
@PhillipP93 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverrain99205 There's only so much you can establish in a 2 hr movie. It's easier to expand on a character in a comic book series because you can tell a story that can go on forever and ever. Characters have to be simplified so that the audience can digest everything that's happening.
@logariusbacardi8330
@logariusbacardi8330 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhillipP93 Books always have more content than films.
@krod4278
@krod4278 2 жыл бұрын
They do that in every movie
@brian7333
@brian7333 Жыл бұрын
The comics have gotten around to near-deifying every character it seems (WB Hulk, Alpha level mutants, etc.)
@adam-ke2sy
@adam-ke2sy 4 жыл бұрын
Iceman stopped a nuclear reactor before, Has shishkabobbed thor and done so much unbelievable stuff. Bobby def takes this
@painpainnn7001
@painpainnn7001 3 жыл бұрын
dramamu himself said Human Torch has the power of a god trapped in a human's body. Johnny could also go super nova which destroyed a good chunk of the annihilus army (which took cosmic level heroes to take em out). Not only that, but he could burn off all of the oxygen which cause everyone to suffocate. He's token attacks from Gladiator and kept on fighting. Johnny has proven he's a planetary level threat. Johnny can even burn at planck temp (which has the power to rupture the MULTIVERSE)
@iizensei7547
@iizensei7547 3 жыл бұрын
@@painpainnn7001 I never knew that 😅
@jrock5478
@jrock5478 2 жыл бұрын
Easily Bobby!!!!!
@leonidasfloissac5924
@leonidasfloissac5924 Жыл бұрын
@@painpainnn7001 still don’t matter , iceman has froze a nuclear reactor/bomb.
@rigobertomcfarlane1781
@rigobertomcfarlane1781 6 жыл бұрын
I mean...Iceman has Frozen hell, a mystical fire that's hotter than the sun. Soooooooo what's up?
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 6 жыл бұрын
even seen simple things like a firehose out johnny...soooo...I don't know...bad writing on both sides
@kayken8393
@kayken8393 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. No competition between them really... Bobby's kinda like the dark horse of the comics. Could be epic, but his crippling self doubt prevents him from reaching full potential. Human Torch's powers are limited and lets be honest, he's easily injured and easily put out. (I do actually like Johnny though...) Meanwhile, Bobby's an Omega level mutant. Recently he's branched off from just ice-powers to being able to control water on a molecular level (in all states), so has the potential to become god-tier threat/character considering 71% of Earth is covered in water and this figure doesn't include moisture and water vapour. He was cold enough to stop a nuclear explosion and yep ^ freeze hell. Even Thor was pretty wary of his ice. Not to mention he could be basically immortal? He's been able to revive himself from a water-vapour/molecular state and just reform himself...
@slvrcobra1337
@slvrcobra1337 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Iceman sounds like an overpowered Mary Sue
@kayken8393
@kayken8393 6 жыл бұрын
Actually this has been slowly developing since the 60's. he's only one of a very few Omega levels and hardly uses his powers fully. Plus he has limitations and his personal weakness is that he didn't reach this potential on his own, he either needed Apocalypse or Emma Frost to unlock it, because he's not naturally creative enough to utilise his gifts fully.
@kayken8393
@kayken8393 6 жыл бұрын
And he's hardly in the league of the truly op and Mary Sue characters of the Universe. He has faults and a personality that counterbalances what he can potentially do. He's not an all out perfect character, hardly the one that's tends to get the girl( but there's a reason for that now so) or anywhere near the strongest. He never really plays the part of the guy or girl in unending distress. He's just a very steady, long term core member of the X-Men, who very few times has even been a leader and happens to be an Omega level. Having vast power doesn't make you a Mary Sue off the bat, there's other factors. Especially not when the development was as slow and gradual as Bobby's. But yeah, he is way above Storm. There do actually have to be some Omega class mutants in the Universe. He just happens to be one of them.
@mud-bloodprince3931
@mud-bloodprince3931 6 жыл бұрын
The Immortal Bobby Drake has been shown to freeze Hell. If that's not enough I'll explain further. The Immortal Bobby Drake is Immortal as well as Omnipresent.
@chrsso
@chrsso 6 жыл бұрын
Darth Green Ranger not omnipresent
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 6 жыл бұрын
Hell, it was a joke.
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 6 жыл бұрын
Darth Green Ranger, you're forgetting that he's omni knowing and Omni powerful. The only thing capable of beating him is a utility belt.
@gabrieltapia2850
@gabrieltapia2850 6 жыл бұрын
Darth Green Ranger , how hot is hell.......... thank u ur argument is poop I would bet money Johny is hotter then “Hell”
@nocturnal-5865
@nocturnal-5865 6 жыл бұрын
gabriel tapia What's Johnny Gonna do? Bobby can reform inside of him
@keithbigT
@keithbigT 6 жыл бұрын
You might have overlooked the control Iceman had over his powers from the Age of Apocalypse story line where he essentially transports the team by turning everyone to water vapor and then reassembling them at their destination.
@elijahwilliams3204
@elijahwilliams3204 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, fascinating😲😀
@smokingbeetles5793
@smokingbeetles5793 2 жыл бұрын
But skeleton and calcium isn't water though....
@keithbigT
@keithbigT 2 жыл бұрын
@@smokingbeetles5793 lol I'm just stating the comic facts, not claiming I understand or agree with them.
@austinvee6601
@austinvee6601 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember him doing that though I read the arc over 20 years ago. That being said, Bobby doing that would put him in the upper echelons of omega mutants
@williamdupree8220
@williamdupree8220 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf... Iceman froze hell no way torch can get that hot
@mullajohn2803
@mullajohn2803 6 жыл бұрын
hell is full of burning sulphur
@kash45
@kash45 5 жыл бұрын
The only person who can get as hot as the sun is sunspot he actually takes Solar energy from the sun Human Torch doesn't
@unknownboy695
@unknownboy695 5 жыл бұрын
Kash 45 dumb ass I'm holding back I'm holding back
@EnclaviousFiraga
@EnclaviousFiraga 5 жыл бұрын
Torch can get as hot as he wants. But he doesn't because just being as hot as the sun damages his surroundings
@iMista
@iMista 5 жыл бұрын
William Dupree bro torch could destroy planets instantly if he went supernova y’all downplayin him
@lucao9996
@lucao9996 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman froze hell
@unknownboy695
@unknownboy695 5 жыл бұрын
Wombat um ok
@COrraThereal0ne
@COrraThereal0ne 3 жыл бұрын
Human Tourch become a SUN.
@runkpunkin5980
@runkpunkin5980 3 жыл бұрын
@@COrraThereal0ne *hotter than one
@amateur-madman3047
@amateur-madman3047 6 жыл бұрын
I love both of these characters so much, I used to match them up in my head all the time. But I’d definitely have to go with Iceman. The guy is an Omega level mutant, he’s frozen all of Hell, and an entire city. He can heal any damage he takes, and on top of all that he can’t die. Human Torch may be able to do something similar by elevating his heat to such a level that anything thrown at him just immediately melts, but if that doesn’t work he has no real way of defending against damage.
@amateur-madman3047
@amateur-madman3047 3 жыл бұрын
@@rain_portal202 Who’s this person Human Torch was punched by?
@CaptainFrost32
@CaptainFrost32 3 жыл бұрын
@@rain_portal202 Bobby has gotten faster at reconstitution. He can actually work in numerous parts of the world through ice proxies while freezing the earth. By this point, Johnny is playing chinese checkers while Bobby is playing 3-d Chess.
@tuneunleashed
@tuneunleashed 2 жыл бұрын
You do know that Johnny Storm is also Beyond Omega Level right?!
@oluwadamilola6233
@oluwadamilola6233 2 жыл бұрын
"Omega level" is an overrated word, if human torch was a Mutant,he would be omega level too bro
@Silentef
@Silentef Жыл бұрын
@@oluwadamilola6233 he is a mutant. His dna got altered along with the F4. He is omega level
@HeraldoftheMEME
@HeraldoftheMEME 6 жыл бұрын
Finally a video you actually have done thorough research on I'm proud of you Dan Co.... you're finally making reasonable matchups with reasonable logic
@raymee1015
@raymee1015 3 жыл бұрын
Iceman easily. He really downplayed him to get his favorite to win. As usual
@nh2727
@nh2727 2 жыл бұрын
True
@AWalkOnDirt
@AWalkOnDirt 6 жыл бұрын
Actually it’s the opposite. Cold has an inherent advantage over heat. This is why the universe will ultimately die of heat death because of the laws of thermodynamics.
@yuncelluz8709
@yuncelluz8709 6 жыл бұрын
Ok this was informative I like this fight
@chrsso
@chrsso 6 жыл бұрын
Marcellus Jamison was wrong tbh
@whitephoenixofthecrown8523
@whitephoenixofthecrown8523 6 жыл бұрын
Hell yupp
@eliasacuna8188
@eliasacuna8188 6 жыл бұрын
Ho
@insomnolence8398
@insomnolence8398 6 жыл бұрын
sleep no it wasn't.
@chechong2439
@chechong2439 5 жыл бұрын
google Iceman respect thread. Bobby Drake (Iceman) is practically a god now.
@tylermckenzie7780
@tylermckenzie7780 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman is a omega level mutant
@tylermckenzie7780
@tylermckenzie7780 6 жыл бұрын
Which means he can freeze over the world. And he can create an ice clones
@radioactive_cosmicrays6968
@radioactive_cosmicrays6968 6 жыл бұрын
Ultra Nerd lol so?
@unknownboy695
@unknownboy695 5 жыл бұрын
Tyler McKenzie and
@keshinro...6979
@keshinro...6979 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares
@thenerdygamer5749
@thenerdygamer5749 6 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video like 20 times and it's still my favorite DanCo video of all time
@justinanderson2460
@justinanderson2460 6 жыл бұрын
Liked this a lot. Objective, evidence supplied, logical breakdown, no issue admitting when characters are evenly matched. Looks like a pretty good start to me (this is the first of your videos I've seen and I'm gonna go watch more now. +1like . In light of some new(ish) feats for Iceman, its entirely likely that he could feasibly defeat Johnny if both were going all out. Having said that, if they were both opperating at their more "standard" levels, Human Torch would still probably win.
@ClutchCity71
@ClutchCity71 6 жыл бұрын
Ice man easily
@davidhatcher7016
@davidhatcher7016 5 жыл бұрын
How so?
@cedricexquisite1999
@cedricexquisite1999 5 жыл бұрын
No
@MusicFan.....
@MusicFan..... 4 жыл бұрын
@@uselessaccount6737 NO
@wolffesaurusrex
@wolffesaurusrex 3 жыл бұрын
@@uselessaccount6737 nigga no
@wolffesaurusrex
@wolffesaurusrex 3 жыл бұрын
@@uselessaccount6737 i wasted my time, but you're the one who wrote an entire paragraph
@JanAkuren
@JanAkuren 3 жыл бұрын
Hell>Sun Hell
@darrylisaac9400
@darrylisaac9400 3 жыл бұрын
Human torch can become hotter than the sun when he goes supernova vot iceman still wins
@painpainnn7001
@painpainnn7001 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel's hell is not even hot lol. If you read Amazing X-Men #2 Bobby himself said Hell isn't that hot and he passed out after freezing hell. Firestar said Bobby's ice is melting right after he passed out. I mean think about it. If hell is really as hot as you say..... then how is Storm and Firestar able to just stand in there???? think about that. Dramammu himself said Johnny has the power of a god trapped in a boy's body. Johnny's Supernova is able to destroy the entire Annihilation wave (which is a threat dangerous enough to call together most of Marvel's Cosmic based characters). And the fact that Johnny was able to take all of them with a single blast...... yeah.... Johnny's insides are literally hotter than a exploding star. Set a planet size object on fire. Not to mention Johnny has Cosmic fire
@JanAkuren
@JanAkuren 2 жыл бұрын
@@painpainnn7001 Iceman freezing speed of light! isn`t plot induced stupidity or outlier feat. It can be achieved with high control over thermal energy. This ability is way more stronger than Thor's`s godblast. It literally negated Juggernaut`s force field. Robert has faster than light reactions or it`s just his ice so unique that it can tag things with speed of light.
@painpainnn7001
@painpainnn7001 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanAkuren i highly doubt it's stronger than Thor's goblast considering it was able to take down a hungry galactus. And Juggernaut is no Galatcus. To be fair, Johnny can move and react faster than lightspeed too, shown by his fights with cosmic level beings. He even has his own forcefields too, it's useful to protective himself from rockets and ice users. He even defeated X-Men doppelgangers by himself before.
@taureansun1501
@taureansun1501 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I usually agree with you but in this bobby would win. Bobby shut down sunfire from accessing his powerswoth ease and freeze planets
@Dragonflyjones67
@Dragonflyjones67 6 жыл бұрын
Research Ice Man powers again! He has the definite potential to beat the Human Torch. Let alone kill him!
@painpainnn7001
@painpainnn7001 3 жыл бұрын
dramamu himself said Human Torch has the power of a god trapped in a human's body. Johnny could also go super nova which destroyed a good chunk of the annihilus army (which took cosmic level heroes to take em out). Not only that, but he could burn off all of the oxygen which cause everyone to suffocate. He's token attacks from Gladiator and kept on fighting. Johnny has proven he's a planetary level threat.
@poolsclosed7757
@poolsclosed7757 6 жыл бұрын
Brainiac vs ultron
@hulksmash2569
@hulksmash2569 6 жыл бұрын
Ultron
@hulksmash2569
@hulksmash2569 6 жыл бұрын
I, BELIEVE ULTRON's ability to adapt. AND HIS FIGHTING ABILITIES,. BRIANIAC no push over tho
@hulksmash2569
@hulksmash2569 6 жыл бұрын
prathik
@hulksmash2569
@hulksmash2569 6 жыл бұрын
IF ultron hacks brianiac's mother ship he could take control of him...
@hulksmash2569
@hulksmash2569 6 жыл бұрын
Either way, its a good back and forward battle
@mrKilakb
@mrKilakb 6 жыл бұрын
Enchantress from suicide squad vs Scarlett witch from avengers
@igortepic1147
@igortepic1147 5 жыл бұрын
Scarlett wins
@tgr.4550
@tgr.4550 4 жыл бұрын
I think scarlett wins. What we were given in suicide squad does not inspire confidence
@camilamartinez3943
@camilamartinez3943 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video do human torch vs firestorm
@readthisifyourgay4486
@readthisifyourgay4486 6 жыл бұрын
I think iceman would win
@sainttrunks1982
@sainttrunks1982 6 жыл бұрын
how
@unknownboy695
@unknownboy695 5 жыл бұрын
The guy literally explained who would win guys johnny
@davidhatcher7016
@davidhatcher7016 5 жыл бұрын
@@unknownboy695 exactly
@damienc.3970
@damienc.3970 5 жыл бұрын
My money is on Iceman
@malachiwhite4808
@malachiwhite4808 5 жыл бұрын
Iceman froze hell tho
@seanholmes7482
@seanholmes7482 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! Can you do a comparison match between Marvel's Pyro and Marvel's Human Torch?
@grimsavage934
@grimsavage934 5 жыл бұрын
Torch died against the Annihilation Wave. Ice Man's body is fully malleable. Meaning he can reform from being shattered. Torch cannot.
@looneylooney7985
@looneylooney7985 6 жыл бұрын
You broke this video down so perfectly I'm truly amazed!👏👏👏
@chrsso
@chrsso 6 жыл бұрын
Looney Looney iceman should have won
@looneylooney7985
@looneylooney7985 6 жыл бұрын
Hell lol I knew atleast 1person would say this but I have to disagree with you buddy. The Human Torch would smoke Iceman🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥too much heat🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@hedoingitsideways
@hedoingitsideways 6 жыл бұрын
Human Torch wont win, try reading a few comics.
@carloscarson4556
@carloscarson4556 6 жыл бұрын
human torch would easily win
@chechong2439
@chechong2439 6 жыл бұрын
How do you win against an immortal who can suck all the moisture out of your body? The video only addressed the cold vs hot but Bobby does a lot more than manipulate temperature. If Torch vaporizes Iceman then Bobby sucks out all the moisture in Johnny until Johnny turns to dust. He's actually done that in the comics to another being to reform. As far as hot vs cold. Bobby has frozen things as hot or hotter than Johnny in the comics. He frozen a nuclear fusion reactor explosion the equivilant of the suns heat at ground zero in the middle of the explosion. He froze over a fire dimension labled as Hell.. FROZE THE WHOLE THING. He's frozen Celestial tech and has even frozen abstract level opponents. He's frozen light. Iceman takes this easily.
@imperiousdoom2917
@imperiousdoom2917 6 жыл бұрын
Well done, that was quite the break down.
@WMcorp
@WMcorp 6 жыл бұрын
DanCo love your videos, can you do DC's Justice League VS Marvel's Annihilators?
@adamforbes1019
@adamforbes1019 4 жыл бұрын
It comes down to "who shoots first," essentially. If Iceman encases torch in a mound of ice 20 stories high, and 20 stories wide, torch can flame-on all he wants, he will just be covered in freezing cold water and more ice coming down on him, especially if iceman is continually regenerating the melting ice. It has been shown before that torch cannot flame on while under water. That's what he will basically be in if he tries to flame on while encased inside a mountain of ice. However, if Torch hits Iceman with a giant nova blast of flame and holds it on him, Iceman wouldn't be able to reform. Atleast not immediately.
@dav1d9
@dav1d9 2 жыл бұрын
Covered in freezing cold water? He literally explained how hot Torch can get, that ice would instantly be steam
@Sai-xc8ij
@Sai-xc8ij 10 ай бұрын
​@@dav1d9i was thinking that
@reecewiczy7758
@reecewiczy7758 9 ай бұрын
@@dav1d9 iceman has frozen hell
@vogswana
@vogswana 9 ай бұрын
​@reecewiczy7758 Hell isn't that hot. Literally stated by Doom who (with no armour or magical protection), was just waltzing through in a Hoodie, a pair of jeans and some Timbs on.
@reecewiczy7758
@reecewiczy7758 9 ай бұрын
@@vogswana every comic is different lol in the case where he cooled off hell it was intended to be an insane feat
@shabloinkz
@shabloinkz 6 жыл бұрын
this omega level mutant shit moping the floor!!
@hisexcellency916
@hisexcellency916 6 жыл бұрын
Didn’t see this coming, but very valid points for torch.
@reklawxero6946
@reklawxero6946 5 жыл бұрын
Remember that time in Marvel Civil War when some random person threw a bottle and took out the Torch....heh, heh, yeah me too.
@0eloquency0
@0eloquency0 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman is a water God. Iceman can become the ocean. Iceman would destroy human torch
@unknownboy695
@unknownboy695 5 жыл бұрын
0eloquency0 yeah but then human torch could evaporate the ocean
@phantomx2539
@phantomx2539 5 жыл бұрын
Ice man almost beaten Thor human torch can't do that
@davidhatcher7016
@davidhatcher7016 5 жыл бұрын
Lol no.
@KlausFilmss
@KlausFilmss 5 жыл бұрын
0eloquency0 he can’t become the ocean or water.
@davidhatcher7016
@davidhatcher7016 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Durray really?
@shawtyk1764
@shawtyk1764 6 жыл бұрын
DanCo do you even know the temp of absolute zero?. If you did you'd know that human torch would lose. Sorry but I disagree
@paulroberts5234
@paulroberts5234 6 жыл бұрын
Shawty K could iceman freeze the sun? Doubtful. I imagine he cannot get that close. Because no air. To hot, etc... Which to declare... Human torch is capable to fly and breath out of earth's atmosphere. And go to the sun. Etc... super Nova. Furthermore. Iceman can only last his powers at full for 5 to 6 hours. Which human torch... is able to keep his own power for multiple hours. Etc...
@chechong2439
@chechong2439 6 жыл бұрын
Read up on Iceman. He's gone toe to toe with Celestial level opponents and won.
@totallytoastly8662
@totallytoastly8662 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Roberts It wouldn't even take Iceman an hour to beat Johnny
@chechong2439
@chechong2439 6 жыл бұрын
An hour? Iceman with morals off would kill Torch with a thought
@theblackbasketball
@theblackbasketball 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Roberts Iceman froze hell
@bradley-taubnerfamily1062
@bradley-taubnerfamily1062 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, finally a memeber of the fantastic four win. nice video
@frankhudsondjfrankgee7152
@frankhudsondjfrankgee7152 5 жыл бұрын
The Ultimate fight..Chaos vs. One Above All! 'Nuff said!
@mrpurplerain7476
@mrpurplerain7476 5 жыл бұрын
One Above All that's easy
@JesusGonzalez-jt7zh
@JesusGonzalez-jt7zh 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see Moon Knight vs Michael Lane as Azrael.
@LouisVuitton1
@LouisVuitton1 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh anybody including me and you can beat moon knight. Sorry ass, that's exactly why he ain't got a movie
@blondepretzelguy3643
@blondepretzelguy3643 2 жыл бұрын
fast forward 2021, "Moon knight movie announced"
@matthewronson5218
@matthewronson5218 5 жыл бұрын
Johnny's only play for victory that I can see: He immediately removes all moisture from the air-and/or from Bobby's body itself- crippling or disabling Bobby, who is otherwise significantly stronger. I've read in comics that Johnny's Nova blast would take out the entire Easter Seaboard, where Bobby's power is Omega level.
@wellteknically
@wellteknically 6 жыл бұрын
Please do something unique and fitting next, like Loki vs Ares (brothers of Thor and Wonder Woman who always play opponents into their hands) or Black Panther vs Black Manta (characters with “Black” in their names who are motivated by the deaths of their fathers)
@user-pl7ul2gc2z
@user-pl7ul2gc2z 27 күн бұрын
Apart from iceman has frozen a hell and nuclear reactor before, I want to talk about how he is not afraid of being evaporated. He can manipulate ice and water as everyone knows,so he can create a new body using even moistures of water after he is evaporated. He is literally immortal if there’s any water on earth.
@kellymcmath4277
@kellymcmath4277 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman would win because Johnny has finite point while Bobby does not plus as u stated he is a omega level mutant. Have a nice day....916
@markmapp5388
@markmapp5388 6 жыл бұрын
Kelly McMath have a nice day to!! But Johnny still BEAT iceman Omega level or not!!!!!
@alanreyes6082
@alanreyes6082 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Mapp good joke
@zaytheguru2542
@zaytheguru2542 6 жыл бұрын
Johnny can't take water so an Ice tidal wave should do it Johnny will burn thru energy so fast it's not even funny
@angelmontes9528
@angelmontes9528 6 жыл бұрын
Kelly McMath just cause he is omega level dont mean he is unbeatable
@tommylee4116
@tommylee4116 6 жыл бұрын
Kelly McMath not to mention, Iceman FROZE HELL
@SantiagoOXfir
@SantiagoOXfir 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman is an omega level mutant
@tye2443
@tye2443 6 жыл бұрын
Khaliq Bryson the human torch is probably omega level
@towatchvideos5592
@towatchvideos5592 5 жыл бұрын
So? Johnny has not been rated by that level so therefore that rating is not a reliable way to compare the two.
@SantiagoOXfir
@SantiagoOXfir 2 жыл бұрын
@Kaos Nova where did you see he can turn into plasma.?
@rodknochenhauer1278
@rodknochenhauer1278 6 жыл бұрын
yo could you do Taskmaster vs Deathstroke?! It would be so dope! great video btw. I agree. Johnny has shown greater feats with fire than Bobby has with Ice.
@knguyen1421
@knguyen1421 6 жыл бұрын
To answer the question about how sucking the heat out of someone freezes them: All matter has an energy associated with it. This energy can be referred to as enthalpy, potential energy, brownian motion, etc. The point is, everything has energy, and therefore some sort of heat. One of the laws of thermodynamics states that a perfect crystal is formed only at absolute zero, which is zero kelvin (which has never been reached as far as we know), and it is at this temperature that all matter has no energy, and thus freezes. Or if you'd like, you can remember that cold is simply the absence of heat. In fact when something freezes, such as water, it is because so much energy has been taken out of it that the molecules stop moving long enough that they can interact and form stronger bonds with each other. An object melts because when heat is applied to them, enough energy is given such that these bonds can be broken.
@bdhejnfj9733
@bdhejnfj9733 6 жыл бұрын
Ice man vs sub zero Rip sub zero
@beentrill6434
@beentrill6434 6 жыл бұрын
Bdhej Nfj subzero would kill Bobby Drake
@bdhejnfj9733
@bdhejnfj9733 6 жыл бұрын
BeenTrill64 can sub zero kill thousands of him that can regenerate fast
@beentrill6434
@beentrill6434 6 жыл бұрын
Bdhej Nfj yeah prolly not but Sub Zero is pure savage
@bdhejnfj9733
@bdhejnfj9733 6 жыл бұрын
BeenTrill64 sub zero is fucked if he fights iceman
@omarxdaprodigy
@omarxdaprodigy 6 жыл бұрын
Hey listen now, Sub Zero the truth
@jayglizzy_1398
@jayglizzy_1398 6 жыл бұрын
I mean the statistics Johnny will use need to be more complex to defeat icemean. Anyways great video
@13wayz70
@13wayz70 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted to see this fight ever since I found out about these two
@markusbovarsson204
@markusbovarsson204 5 жыл бұрын
They both have one thing in common... they are both fucking underrated
@rale317
@rale317 6 жыл бұрын
Both control atoms to either excite them and create heat or stop them for extreme cold. Pretty sure with their level of control there isn't anything either could do to the other that they couldn't nullify. It's hard cause both Torch and Iceman have done some colossal shit in late game. If stopping Torch's atoms won't kill him, and excited Iceman's atoms won't kill him.. It would have to come down to who has more control over the atoms. Absolute zero is a finite number. No matter what number Torch can excite the atoms to, Iceman just has to bring them back to zero. So it depends on who has more control over them. In which the best either could do is trap and hold them in that state.
@victorma9355
@victorma9355 11 ай бұрын
Not necessarily because still atom according to Einstein exerts energy which is what fission energy is all about. Bobby in order to bring stuff down to near absolute zero has to have power over the existence of that atom itself. The only thing in reality that could do what Bobby does in comic are super massive black holes, and those stuff eats suns and galaxy for living. Personally I feel Bobby wins, plus he literally can’t die.
@fierrobiego1921
@fierrobiego1921 6 жыл бұрын
Ice man wins because he is a level omega he could even teleport and have super speed
@kayken8393
@kayken8393 6 жыл бұрын
Dude what the fuck? Aggressive much lmao. In all seriousness though, as it is right now Bobby would wipe the floor with Johnny, (coming from a big fan of both of them.)
@datusi4441
@datusi4441 6 жыл бұрын
Ace Gambino stop talkin out yo neck bluh
@roewowo7589
@roewowo7589 4 жыл бұрын
Umm..isn't the Human Torch hotter than the sun itself?
@callmewhateveryouwant2433
@callmewhateveryouwant2433 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny storm is also omega level even possibly even more powerful than omega level mutants
@rain_portal202
@rain_portal202 3 жыл бұрын
Human torch survives a hit from a being 4x stronger then thanos and he just had the air nocked out of him and iceman has been beat bye much weaker pryo kenisis user's, ice man froze hell but he passes out after. Also human torch had survived absolute zero. And if your using the argument that iceman could just reform over and over iceman has been blown up before and was very weak for a few day's
@pedrocasiano7153
@pedrocasiano7153 2 жыл бұрын
Dan have you ever done a video on Aquaman vs Iceman? If not have you thought about it? Interesting match.
@kylergrooms2221
@kylergrooms2221 6 жыл бұрын
this was a weird battle to discuss, but it was a great one to talk about
@Motorhawk2
@Motorhawk2 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I read in some comics that the Human Torch still needed air for his powers to work and to remain conscious, if that is the case Iceman could surround Johnny with an incredibly thick wall of ice that is almost at absolute zero. When the Human Torch has burnt up all the air and his powers and consciousness fail him Bobby can claim victory.
@painpainnn7001
@painpainnn7001 2 жыл бұрын
uhhhhh..... Johnny survived absolute zero before from one of the Watchers, so that argument is pretty invalid. Dramammu himself said Johnny has the power of a god trapped in a boy's body. Johnny's Supernova is able to destroy the entire Annihilation wave (which is a threat dangerous enough to call together most of Marvel's Cosmic based characters). And the fact that Johnny was able to take all of them with a single blast...... yeah.... Johnny is literally hotter than a exploding star. Set a planet size object on fire. Johnny is a planet/cosmic level threat and he's too much for Bobby to handle. Considering Bobby passed out right after freezing hell, and Marvel's hell is not even close to as hot as a supernova. Considering Marvel's hell barely has flames and Storm and Firestar were able to stand in there just fine. Also Johnny's suit (the blue one, not the yellow one) allows him to flame on in airless space.
@painpainnn7001
@painpainnn7001 2 жыл бұрын
@Gabriel Saldanha it's comics dude, nothing makes sense
@mekhilipsey8689
@mekhilipsey8689 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman has troubles fighting Pyro, a man that gets his fire from a backpack, Lol 😂. So of course Torch would win, especially if he decides to go supernova.
@looneysgamingnetwork9851
@looneysgamingnetwork9851 6 жыл бұрын
Mekhi Lipsey I agree 100% I've been saying this for years but people seem to think I'm crazy. Iceman is so overrated with this Omega Level power bullshit he would never even get close enogh to do anything to the Human Torch dude is basically like a walking sun.
@xeperandremanifestthinktan1023
@xeperandremanifestthinktan1023 6 жыл бұрын
Mekhi Lipsey *won't be that simple, iceman actually absorbs heat*
@mekhilipsey8689
@mekhilipsey8689 6 жыл бұрын
Xeper and Remanifest Think Tank of the esoteric Not torches vast amount of heat and fire. Like I said, iceman barely beats pyro and pyro only controls fire.
@xeperandremanifestthinktan1023
@xeperandremanifestthinktan1023 6 жыл бұрын
Mekhi Lipsey *supernova still consist of molecules. Iceman has been known to freeze every molecule in hell. He can surely do the same to a sun*
@conceivebelieveachieve9544
@conceivebelieveachieve9544 6 жыл бұрын
Mekhi Lipsey agreed I always thought that to but I dont really know much of iceman but I think human torch wins.
@Cliffjumper
@Cliffjumper 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the Creeper from DC comics in a match up.
@crackerjacker2011
@crackerjacker2011 2 жыл бұрын
A very similar battle was already fought in the animated Spider Friends show. Both Firestar and Iceman were trapped side by side and didn't know the other was next to them. When each used their powers, the other thought they were being attacked by the room. Iceman beat Firestar back then and he would beat the Human Torch now.
@Ancient_Tribesman
@Ancient_Tribesman 6 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody sees it my way Johnny going nova temperature and power is much more extreme than iceman going absolute zero it's not that hard to see who wins its science lol
@MichaelGaryScott90
@MichaelGaryScott90 6 жыл бұрын
Kraven the Hunter vs. Beast Boy Batman vs. Taskmaster Karate Kid vs. Iron Fist Punisher vs. Red Hood The Flash vs. Makkari The Thing vs. Solomon Grundy The Void vs. Emperor Superman Rune King Thor vs. DC Hercules Odin vs. DC Zeus
@LouisVuitton1
@LouisVuitton1 4 жыл бұрын
Karate kid vs iron fist??? Come on man that's a waste of time
@stormichow5325
@stormichow5325 3 жыл бұрын
Captain America has defeated Taskmaster time and time again, and Batman is about on par with Cap's combat skills.. so, Batman takes this one.
@bgpofootballfunk2591
@bgpofootballfunk2591 6 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do reverse flash vs Superman?
@luisalfredo0123
@luisalfredo0123 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm 🧐 Bobby & Johnny sound like two long lost brothas 😂
@floppysocks4489
@floppysocks4489 2 жыл бұрын
I feel ice water stops fire faster than a fire would melt ice in real life so I’d say realistically iceman wins but comic wise depends on the writer.
@yuval4862
@yuval4862 6 жыл бұрын
doctor strange vs silver surfer i think that thay very strong becouse thay cant die and they awsome what you all think
@ChrisHemsworthIndia
@ChrisHemsworthIndia 6 жыл бұрын
LEECHY tumabe fruit hay strange can die. And norrin died too.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 6 жыл бұрын
Moumita Srimany Hello Thor fan
@yuval4862
@yuval4862 6 жыл бұрын
CHEESE BURGER FREDDY hello coca cola fan
@kimblesimpson5412
@kimblesimpson5412 6 жыл бұрын
LEECHY tumabe fruit Where did you hear that from both Dr. Strange and the Silver Surfer can die . Dr. Strange is not immortal and have you read the book Death of the Silver Surfer yet ?
@cyclopsisbetterthanwolveri8651
@cyclopsisbetterthanwolveri8651 6 жыл бұрын
This was another great vid
@brucebegone7185
@brucebegone7185 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your opinion, but i respect it. Good video man. Keep it up
@Fahim.gosling03
@Fahim.gosling03 6 жыл бұрын
Thor vs Doctor Strange ........MCU one....both of them
@looneylooney7985
@looneylooney7985 6 жыл бұрын
I knew the Human Torch would win. So for all you people who said I was an idiot for thinking otherwise kiss my ass lol jk...This is my favorite video you've done so far Danco. Thanks for backing up everything I've been saying. Human Torch FTW.👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😊😊
@whitephoenixofthecrown8523
@whitephoenixofthecrown8523 6 жыл бұрын
Looney Looney there is no way the Human Torch would win. Iceman froze an entire hell, and he even told Mystique that it would take a mere thought for him to handle a sun. And he did it if I am not mistaken.
@carloscarson4556
@carloscarson4556 6 жыл бұрын
torch would win easy
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman all the way. As an Omega level, he is virtually limitless in his power
@epikboyvoid7076
@epikboyvoid7076 5 жыл бұрын
@@whitephoenixofthecrown8523 Ice Man VS Super Man
@whitephoenixofthecrown8523
@whitephoenixofthecrown8523 5 жыл бұрын
@@epikboyvoid7076 Super man or Superman?
@MattDaBoneless
@MattDaBoneless Жыл бұрын
This would be a good match up but being able to reduce the ambient temperature to absolute zero in my mind is superior
@tirrellreed8258
@tirrellreed8258 5 жыл бұрын
This must've been sooo difficult to pick a winner for without a DC character to choose from
@fozzy117
@fozzy117 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman all the way yo!
@rain_portal202
@rain_portal202 3 жыл бұрын
...
@fozzy117
@fozzy117 3 жыл бұрын
@@rain_portal202 ?
@silverrain99205
@silverrain99205 3 жыл бұрын
@@fozzy117...
@One4allable
@One4allable 6 жыл бұрын
Too hot to handle too cold to hold, need I say more?
@michaelpayne3043
@michaelpayne3043 5 жыл бұрын
bobby brown on our own
@virgoking1995
@virgoking1995 6 жыл бұрын
Could you put hellboy vs ?????
@timikelvin5618
@timikelvin5618 3 жыл бұрын
I need you to mix this up. Put some disney and other animation character. Like elsa vs iceman
@ziadabdallah7112
@ziadabdallah7112 6 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man vs Captain America please I really want to see that match
@T0rTerra
@T0rTerra 6 жыл бұрын
Mine explorer Zizo no-brainer, spidey.
@drewtheboxer5125
@drewtheboxer5125 6 жыл бұрын
Mine explorer Zizo spidey uf he actually tries
@savitagangwar9619
@savitagangwar9619 6 жыл бұрын
mine explorer zizo cap wins easily.
@sivalingam7381
@sivalingam7381 6 жыл бұрын
Savita Gangwar nice joke
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks cap wins watches the movies but doesn't read the comics. Roided up 1940 soldier vs unnaturally fast, Supermanly strong, sixth sense wielding, science genius, acrobatic, 15 ton benching, flipping spiderman. Ant... boot.
@supermandbs3717
@supermandbs3717 6 жыл бұрын
Vegeta vs Superman
@watsondontaable
@watsondontaable 6 жыл бұрын
Human Torch is beast and is on par with Iceman. I love this fight.
@iKingReaction18
@iKingReaction18 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and keep it up
@JoeyCap.
@JoeyCap. 5 жыл бұрын
If you make a small fire how quickly does it go out when you pour water on it? On the flip side Have you ever tried to set water on fire? Never going to happen Iceman wins this by landslide
@ancientsithlord3314
@ancientsithlord3314 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but human torch is far to hot even for water to touch the dude melts bullets before they can touch him water will evaporate before it touches him
@kash45
@kash45 3 жыл бұрын
Ice can extinguish fire when going head to head
@davidg8158
@davidg8158 6 жыл бұрын
Killer Croc Vs The Lizard
@salmenwinters1399
@salmenwinters1399 6 жыл бұрын
It has been shown in a comic issue that Iceman can reform his body from the water vapor or the water inside his opponent he was in an alternate universe was just his head and then he killed one of the opponents by taking the water from his body while the person was still alive to reform his whole body so he can actually do that to the Human Torch just dissipate his water molecules
@darrylhayes798
@darrylhayes798 6 ай бұрын
Been dying for a ICEMAN movie
@tobiasbaumgartner3050
@tobiasbaumgartner3050 6 жыл бұрын
Do x-men vs avengers
@meldelgado462
@meldelgado462 6 жыл бұрын
Both cool but iceman would win
@sunnyraj4564
@sunnyraj4564 5 жыл бұрын
Only one is actually.. Cool.
@infinitehwd2103
@infinitehwd2103 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunnyraj4564 lol
@lakerssuckclippersfansince8072
@lakerssuckclippersfansince8072 5 жыл бұрын
Fire beats ice
@josiahpurtee1156
@josiahpurtee1156 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a fight between the Human Torch (Jim Hammond) and Pyro?
@23narada
@23narada 6 жыл бұрын
Nate grey vs Thanos would love to see ur take on that
@juansanchez209
@juansanchez209 6 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, very informative and well-researched! That being said, I disagree about the outcome. While fire would theoretically have a major advantage over ice, Iceman simply has a far greater control and manipulation of Ice and Human Torch does of fire. Iceland actually froze over hell once (yes, THE hell). On top of that, Iceman can’t actually be killed in a traditional sense because he can simply reform himself endlessly, so Human Torch can’t keep him down.
@brian7333
@brian7333 Жыл бұрын
The comics took Iceman's creative abilities to a whole new level. Don't think they did that with Johnny did they? Retro Torch beats retro Iceman imo (flight, speed, supernova, etc)--- but Alpha level Iceman probably does stuff I haven't even read about yet. Modern day Bobby Drake beats modern day Johnny Storm.
@venomius
@venomius 11 ай бұрын
He said it himself in the video iceman is OMEGA level H.T. isn't even the best on his own team.its alot harder to maintain heat than cold in 99/100 circumstances...I like em both but I'm taking iceman for the win
@davidtillett410
@davidtillett410 6 жыл бұрын
Can johnny control hellfire?
@seinenking6662
@seinenking6662 6 жыл бұрын
david tillett no
@stre2508
@stre2508 3 жыл бұрын
No he can’t
@Stark153
@Stark153 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@rain_portal202
@rain_portal202 3 жыл бұрын
No
@shragamildiner8472
@shragamildiner8472 6 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing he just transfers the kinetic every of the atoms that are moving fast (and are therefore hot) into himself.
@Harold075
@Harold075 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman is so cool that he can freeze even flames.
@kv8uophz904
@kv8uophz904 6 жыл бұрын
Iceman dont even have to watch Iceman vs storm would be a better fight Or swamp thing vs groot😉
@assumedname1312
@assumedname1312 6 жыл бұрын
well sadly for u, the human torch won.
@epicchannel758
@epicchannel758 6 жыл бұрын
Kv8u OpHz swamp thing stomps groot
@davidc.
@davidc. 6 жыл бұрын
Kv8u OpHz Swamp thing vs groot loolololo what? Swamp thing stomps. He basically a god.
@toomuchwolves
@toomuchwolves 6 жыл бұрын
I still think IceMan would win because of the fact that Torch doesn't have the stamina to keep up with IceMan, plus IceMan has his own form of rejuvenation which Torch doesn't. Those 2 factors can ultimately be the deciding factor favoring IceMan in the long run
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. If Bobby is by a large body of water, water main, he can use the water to regenerate and attack human torch. H-T is also a mutant, created by cosmic Ray exposure. But is he Omega level ? Almost, but not quite. A lot depends on the environment that the fight happens in . Johnny might even temporary vaporize Bobby, but he'd have to use everything up in a Nova blast..a stalemate until Bobby's regeneration kicks in... couldnt he simply reform and take out the temporarily weakened HT ?
@franzliszt2777
@franzliszt2777 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video featuring Onslaut?
@BMitc13476
@BMitc13476 6 жыл бұрын
Green arrow vs the punisher Captain America vs Luke Cage Red Hood vs Judge Dredd
@gamadame5081
@gamadame5081 6 жыл бұрын
Please do Thor vs black adam.I am seriously confused who would win between the two.
@gamadame5081
@gamadame5081 6 жыл бұрын
The Boogeyman could you compare both of them in terms of strength, durability,speed,energy projection,etc??
@gamadame5081
@gamadame5081 6 жыл бұрын
The Boogeyman I believe that Thor is stronger than hulk because Stan Lee himself has said and Thor has much better feats than hulk+Thor has won against hulk majority of times they fight against each other.
@gamadame5081
@gamadame5081 6 жыл бұрын
The Boogeyman ok I agree that black Adam can beat thor.Thanks for the reply.
@keifyboi6913
@keifyboi6913 6 жыл бұрын
Ivan Dias thor is more powerful but hulk is stronger (potentially )
@gamadame5081
@gamadame5081 6 жыл бұрын
keifyboi Thor's feats are much better than hulk's.Stan has made Thor to be stronger than hulk.Yeah I agree that Hulk has the potential to be stronger so does Thor like he can enter in warrior madness that increases his strength tenfold.
@supermandbs3717
@supermandbs3717 6 жыл бұрын
Goku vs Superman
@uselessaccount6737
@uselessaccount6737 4 жыл бұрын
Goku
@Yumemaru.
@Yumemaru. 5 жыл бұрын
Love em both.
@josiahpurtee1156
@josiahpurtee1156 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a fight between Human Torch (Jim Hammond) and Iceman?
@taibanh5046
@taibanh5046 6 жыл бұрын
Krillin vs thanos with infinity gloves
@dopesaiyan3362
@dopesaiyan3362 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Banh You’re dumb asf my nigga, I fw DBZ heavy but I can tell you don’t know shit bout Thanos cuz yo cool ass said infinity gloves not only did you say gloves you have plural there as if there was two gauntlets
@aaryagathani6575
@aaryagathani6575 6 жыл бұрын
fantastic four vs movie version avengers
@mannypaysan
@mannypaysan 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please do Wonder Woman vs Reign
@dandyramadhana4485
@dandyramadhana4485 4 жыл бұрын
Could you help me about this fight ; Sunfire and Magma vs Human Torch and Fire I really no have idea if they can still hit each others or both team same can penetrate each others power
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