36.9% increase to be exact, nothing big just 2 more HP🤣 So stoked to have you back man👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it. Still trying to settle into a groove, but it is coming along.
@justinweaver87872 жыл бұрын
372xp wit +2more HP count me in!!!!
@IndianaDoug2 жыл бұрын
@@justinweaver8787 exactly😀
@DerangedSalad2 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest niche channels on youtube
@Alan_Hans__2 жыл бұрын
An extra 36% oomph without a saw being 36% bigger capacity is NICE.
@latinodeathjazz2 жыл бұрын
It’s cool to see you do one of these on the channel. They’re the bread and butter saw of the majority of arborists here in Singapore and the most common saw I port, but I’ve never seen them dyno’d before. Just finished one for an arborist friend of mine and he’s well pleased with it - so nice when people get all excited over a port job done for them. I hope whoever you’re doing this one for loves it 👍🏻 I did a BBPU 372XP for myself as a play saw pushing the numbers and it’s mad as a kettle of fish - 18 thou squish (impractical I know but hilarious), 96 exhaust and 160 intake with 25 deg of blowdown, wears a 20 inch ES Light and an obnoxious pipe - so much fun to run but getting a shoulder like Quasimodo from starting it cold. Really enjoying your videos 👍🏻 So glad you’re back. Al
@brettblack70492 жыл бұрын
.018 isn't that tight, many dolmar 7900'scame that tight or even tighter. .020 is just a good safe number many use.
@latinodeathjazz2 жыл бұрын
I only consider 18 thou tight as below that on builds I’ve had issues with pre-detonation and had to mess about a bit (with higher octane fuels, etc). I haven’t come across a 7900 with tighter squish that 22 thou yet but I can absolutely believe it as the Dolmars I’ve ported have been all over the place, even on exactly the same model of saw from the same production year when I’ve ported a batch. I’ve not gone down the race saw rabbit hole yet but I wouldn’t be surprised to see much tighter squish’s in that area. For work saws here I tend to stay up around 24-26 thou as folk here tend to use fairly cheap and dirty oils and often don’t bother warming their saws up, leading to some almost comical amounts of carbon build up in the cylinder and piston crown. I worked on a two year old saw a while back (can’t remember if it was a 372xp or an MS261) and there was so much carbon build up in the exhaust you couldn’t fit a pencil through it into the cylinder from the muffler side - crazy! 🤯 Suffice to say it ran a heap better once I’d removed it all 😂
@latinodeathjazz2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if that was addressed to me, Brett or Joe, but I just run 98 octane ethanol free pump petrol and it runs fine for feisty work saws (being able to use pump fuel is in part a governing factor on how I choose to port/modify a saw).
@brettblack70492 жыл бұрын
@@latinodeathjazz just use a 268 piston in a 372 with everything else stock in the cylinder, just a muffler mod and let me know how you like that. You will need to use a base gasket and cut a .040 pop-up that will fit into the chamber, leave the squish band stock also. I think you'll like how simple it is and how much extra power it gives you. It's also nice because you can replace the 268 piston with a stock 372 piston anytime you'd like as you did no custom machining on the cylinder. Have a great week.
@brettblack70492 жыл бұрын
@@williamwallace9620 I run 90 octane ethanol free mixed 40-45:1 using Maxima K2 in all my saws, including ported and higher compression.
@TommyUhlman2 жыл бұрын
I like the sleak look of the low top. Nice clean power curve, will make a sweet work saw.
@RJM1011Ай бұрын
Interesting video thank you. I have been running a 372xp with a 20" bar here in the UK for years now they are GREAT saws. Looking at buying a 572xp next hoping it will be just as good if not better.
@johnclarke8180 Жыл бұрын
That's a nice gain.
@Houseworksaws2 жыл бұрын
Another fine job Joe! Pretty awesome gain and it’ll be just as reliable if not better. Win win imo.
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MrHuntermikey2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Joe. I like the low top design myself
@Chucky-b7v Жыл бұрын
Great job, sounds incredible 👍🏼
@patrickwinde9802 Жыл бұрын
Love the low tops for sure low top 394 is my favorite saw made
@230e42 жыл бұрын
Nice build! I like the look of the low top, but I have had no issues with the high top getting in the way. I would like to see you do a build on a new MS462 with the regular carb. It would be interesting to see were it dynos compared to your 372xp builds.
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
That would be a fun build, I only have a m tronic 462...Maybe someday I'll get a carb one.
@230e42 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 I like the improvements Stihl made to the ms462. The ported 372xp with a 28" light bar has been a nice daily felling saw.
@pauloignacio57612 жыл бұрын
Every time you get a notification of your videos, I'm really happy. I'm really excited about it. Do you have a video explaining about carburetor improvements?
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it. I don't really mess with the carbs on the worksaw builds. Unless they are really struggling to fuel. 97% of the carbs are adequate for "worksaw" type mods.
@Mark_Tschetter Жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 when you increase air flow don't you also have to adjust the carb to increase fuel flow? Or does the carb do it automatically?
@dynojoemods2764 Жыл бұрын
@@Mark_Tschetter As more air is pulled through the carb more fuel is also pulled to a certain point.
@Mark_Tschetter Жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 Thanks! that's what I needed to know. Which filter setup would give more airflow on a performance build like this, the low top or high top?
@dynojoemods2764 Жыл бұрын
@@Mark_Tschetter Both factory filters seem adequate for a worksaw type build. Not noticed a large gain from one over the other.
@arturartur7372 жыл бұрын
Hi ..Super HUSKVARNA 372 XP .Super machina . Super . Beautiful . Pozdrawiam z POLAND.👌👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍🌳🌲🇵🇱
@josephreynolds49626 ай бұрын
Since the 288 I've always had a thing for high tops
@harmonicliving350710 ай бұрын
Wow that's nuts huge gains
@billyludyka6 ай бұрын
Nice work Dyno Joe
@TimHill-f7q3 ай бұрын
I like the HD high top best
@johnmiller67472 жыл бұрын
HEY Joe!! I'm Seriously gonna send you a magnetic tray to use while you're breaking down those Saw's.. Srews going everywhere!!! LOL..J.K... I enjoy your videos keep up the good work..
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Most of the time they don't go too far before I can get them into a cup.
@BRKS-fj2jt2 жыл бұрын
Paveens a legend 👍
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Indeed he is. Great guy for sure.
@erikredbeard872 жыл бұрын
I like the look of the high tops but I prefer having a low top for practicality. I like to lean over my saw when I sharpen my chain.
@seanmcgillicuddy9569 ай бұрын
You make it look so easy ..
@GerbrandR2 жыл бұрын
Great and clear video. I don't have a lathe to machine the cylinder, but could I use the same timing numbers as you are stating in the video?
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Those type of numbers will work well. Even without the extra compression. Depending on the port time you stsrt with a gasket delete alone may not get thr exhaust low enough.
@GerbrandR2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 Thanks for your reply. Will give it a go in the near future.
@cajun31972 жыл бұрын
One of few saws I would run and have ran bone stock and feel like they have plenty of power. Add 2hp? Shit anyone should be happy with that. 🤙🏽
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Right, for sure a saw that can start the ported saw addiction...
@cajun31972 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 very forgiving to port also. Easy for a beginner.
@grayclapp10812 жыл бұрын
Great outcome!!
@simpleman42242 жыл бұрын
Real nice gains!great job buddy! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
@DIESELMAN8V92 Жыл бұрын
Hey Joe could you please do a vid on Xtorque mods, about where to set them. I recently acquired an xtorque and have repaired a hand full of strato type saws. love the channel and love my degree wheel double thank you
@Connor33558Ай бұрын
Did you machine the squish flat or at a slight angle?
@dynojoemods2764Ай бұрын
I cut them flat
@jasonvining81082 жыл бұрын
I really like the amount of work you put into your craft. Im curious if a saw indeed to run a Alaskan mill would be built differently? I am a Michigan carpenter tired of lumber prices and our wood is beautiful.
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
If it was 100% mill saw it would be a little bit different. Bit not drastically
@Woodman_Custom_Sawing2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know the compression numbers before and after the machining.
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
I will try to remember to throw the gauge on the next saw that gets a healthy band cut. I would guess this around 185 psi
@brettblack70492 жыл бұрын
You need a good Michigan ported saw man. Looks great Joe.
@TractorTech2 жыл бұрын
Very nice gains.
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ronaldmasterbud15512 жыл бұрын
I Know that Personal Preference plays a Major part, But if you Were going to pick up a New saw for Work, Would you go Echo 7310, or Husky 371xp ( Non X Torque ) ???
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Hard one to decide. Can't go wrong with whichever one feels best in the hand.
@mrfirewood62152 жыл бұрын
Which has better performance, low top or high top filter?
@7eis2 жыл бұрын
Stock you are probably limited elsewhere
@Gary-ti4mj7 ай бұрын
Hi Joe What carburettor are these newer 372xp running?
@jrgenrasmussen8840 Жыл бұрын
Did u make the bore bigger also or just intake outlet
@dynojoemods2764 Жыл бұрын
Stock bore. Did machine work to raise compression and move the ports to the correct duration.
@jensenwilliam54342 жыл бұрын
Nice saw !!! How much was it new give or take? Thank you for your videos!
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Around 875 +/- shipping
@robertclifford10992 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 is that from Paveen?
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
@@robertclifford1099 Yes
@kevinparent88432 жыл бұрын
hey, Question, is it better to put a BB setup in these 372xp for more performance STOCK, and 2nd situation if ported ? thanks ! your porting job looks mint !
@timg9448 Жыл бұрын
Hey Dyno- I arrived here from recommendations from Buckin, Tinman, and others... quick question for you, my fuel tank on 372 clone (neo-tec) seems to be no good. where is the vent for the fuel & oil reservoirs, are they close to the carb? I see two little tall skinny nipples poking up from the deck there.
@johncoleman24952 жыл бұрын
The best looking are the red ones
@ericayers569011 ай бұрын
How do these mods effect reliability, longevity and durability of the saw?
@zoltandornay5862 Жыл бұрын
Did you keep the same piston? Change the carb at all?
@vinzer88082 жыл бұрын
We need to talk lmao! 🤣
@EcSsAwS2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm Granted I'm not expert. But every 372 I've had ported or ported myself those lower transfer dividers can be a knife edge Any reason why you didn't touch the lowers at all.?? I'm curious Sooo much material can be remkved
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of knife edging ports. I feel they flow a bit better over a raidus/bull nose. A knife edge dosent create a boundary layer the same as the rounded, can actually make the mix stick to the walls vs flowing. Depending on the goal for the saw and type of porting they may need all the lowers opened way to the max and bulk flow as much as possible. For a standard worksaw type build I don't think it is needed on every saw.
@michaelsgarage3475 Жыл бұрын
Why cut the squish band and then cut down the base?
@dynojoemods2764 Жыл бұрын
To lower the cylinder, increase compression and get port time closer to where I want it. And I cut the chamber first that way no clamp marks are left over after cutting the base.
@neilg59412 жыл бұрын
A 36% gain is a material amount. I wonder if you have enough data from porting and dyno testing to show which saws benefit the most from porting?
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Most of the older generation/carb saws gain better %. Most of the newer auto tune/m tronic don't gain a high % but they start out stronger too.
@backyardfirewood98522 жыл бұрын
I'm going to bring my 572xp to you when you get some free time. I'm up in GR so I can drive it down. 👍 Notice you are big into Dominator for pre-mix. I use Saber in my 2 stroke equipment.... The torque gain is impressive! Have you ever compared HP etc... on a saw with vs. without the decomp button?
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Sounds like a plan. I do have some porting spots on the calender if you want to Check them out. Www.worksaws.com
@backyardfirewood98522 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 On the calendar for the 24th!!!!
@sawboatsndarmwrestling2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the generator 372 make less HP ? Or it négligeable? Beautiful saw, really nice sounding to. My stock 372xpg oe sound like crap compared to that. Keep up the good work, it’s awesome
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
It may make a slight difference, but nothing you will be able to feel.
@file-sw2ec Жыл бұрын
Is MAHLE original cilinder for that saw?
@dynojoemods2764 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember, sorry.
@300whisper111 ай бұрын
Yes it is. There is also cylinders made by Italian company Gilardoni. I have one on my early (1999) 362XPG with single large transfers.
@leonmeuchael545311 ай бұрын
I really like the low tops better I'm old school
@scottallpress38182 жыл бұрын
As a video idea you could do low top v high top filter on one of these . Some say it makes no difference …..
@dangilbertville25772 жыл бұрын
Low top for sure on looks but has the high top filter given any more performance?
@cheapsmoke40962 жыл бұрын
nop, no difference in gains from low top or high top
@douglasfisher3235 Жыл бұрын
Do you remove the carb limiters?
@Jpb7072 жыл бұрын
How about vs high top? On the fence about converting mine
@jarrodskeete522 жыл бұрын
I agree! Take the same saw and dyno with the high top bigger filter to see if its worth it!
@brettblack70492 жыл бұрын
What are you hoping to gain by switching, which filter do you have now.
@VicsYard Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome
@lukecornforth975411 ай бұрын
Paveen raj saw ?
@dynojoemods276411 ай бұрын
Yes
@VE9ASN2 жыл бұрын
Could similar gains be expected with the 371? Thanks!
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Yes 371 gains very well
@VE9ASN2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 do you offer this service?
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
@@VE9ASN Yes, check out the website Www.worksaws.com to schedule a porting service appointment.
@scottythebody08112 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for posting!
@lennie80982 жыл бұрын
What do mean "came from overseas, What country?
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
Malaysia
@ryanb6658 Жыл бұрын
I want you to fix my 372, I’d have to ship it and take long time I guess
@Chris-qf9qm2 жыл бұрын
How much does that cost?
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
350$ + return shipping for the port work. Check out the website under porting service appointment Www.worksaws.com
@dominicsapienza2 жыл бұрын
Phewww 2hp gain God dammmmmmm
@Wanous-hv7zo10 ай бұрын
Can you stop the 372 from rattling all the screws out?
@7eis2 жыл бұрын
We can't get the 372 any more due to politics (emissions BS). Got any source of these you'd be willing to share?
@nathanbroomfield49532 жыл бұрын
EBay
@maxkinsey52608 ай бұрын
This is manly ASMR
@bradsmith78872 ай бұрын
36.9 % hp increase to be exact. and 33.33 % increase in torque
@doingitwronggarage9651 Жыл бұрын
You said timing is 102 exhaust, 122 transfer og 78 intake, right?. Why are you and so many others measuring closed duration and not open duration? I guess 102 and 122 ATDC really is 78 and 58 degrees BBDC for 20 degrees blow down, 156 degrees total exhaust duration and 116 degrees transfer duration. Exhaust opening and intake closing at the same time.
@dynojoemods2764 Жыл бұрын
Just the way I learned to read the wheel and talk numbers. I have started to use total durations a bit more recently.
@doingitwronggarage9651 Жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 I see. Thank you. I would like to give compliments to the electronic degree wheel tool. Really clever idea.
@robertlivingston16342 жыл бұрын
What kind of miracles can you work on a 365 XP, bought it around 1998
@dynojoemods27642 жыл бұрын
The older 365 wake up really well
@Mark_Tschetter Жыл бұрын
Couldn't you make even more power with the high top version? Hi top = larger air filter = more air flow = more power
@joehackett94712 жыл бұрын
😍
@vincentsoo38688 ай бұрын
Low top is the best and sexy looking.
@davidgray4599 Жыл бұрын
Low top!
@vascopires20452 жыл бұрын
low top
@julianlaustsen1991 Жыл бұрын
the high tops look stupid imo but the air filter on the low tops arent good