Husqvarna 372xp X-Torq vs. Original Edition Differences & What Straight Gassed Damage Looks Like

[@chrisradla]

i enjoyed your comments, and appreciated speeding up play at different assembly stages

[@allenhuling598]

Always enjoy getting to ride along on your builds, Walt....Thanks! It may not look like it outside yet, but Spring is coming!!

[@dentondunn4346]

I just traded for my first Husquavarna and it’s a 372xp x torque according to where you said decompression valve is located

[@paulmall4162]

Always love these videos. You probably are one of the most knowledgeable person I know of when it comes to any saw

[@johnclarke6647]

I will tell you - my new 372 grows on me. It is easy to start, easy to tune and I have not had as many development problems with it as I had with my Ms 440 and 460. It was somewhat of a learning curve for me, because the assembly is not the same as a Stihl. Regardless, it is running and cutting good, now. The one dynamic difference I have noted is it does not maintain its tune over a wide range of temperature and humidity as does a Stihl. It is not unusual for my 372 to loose 1,000 rpms if the temperature or humidity drops substantially from one day to another.

[@antoniomorgado5304]

Good vídeo!!!! Nice explanation! I prefer my original edition of 372 xp! 2001 built! A strong saw!!!! and my 1989 husqvarna 61! a good saw! Have a nice day! Hope to see more vídeos!!!!

[@austindenotter19]

The saw shop I use in nwest wisconsin does not usually rebuild an x torq. He simply reverts/rebuilds to the original 372 xp or he encourages us loggers to purchase a new 562xp or if in bigger timber a new 576xp depending on how bad the damage is. It seems like the 372 xtorqs are more likely to suffer a catastrophic failure than the original 372 xp.

[@afleetcommand]

I better not say a thing....just keep recording my experiences..:)

[@afleetcommand]

BUT I really like my 562's, really the right blend for me. And the XPW iteration of the 372 for larger work...to old to hang on to anything bigger at this point in life.

[@afleetcommand]

And I thought about that approach...but that too gets expensive to get right....explanation is in the video for those who really listen. I've had a few come through with just the top end and intake related stuff swapped...:) Not a fan of that approach. Actually the best AND lest expensive fix usually is a better bearings and a new Top End. Thats my preference for real customers. And the folks who work with me get that new top end with the "X-Torq" dividers gutted, solves a pile of issues. Think a hint of that mod sneaked into a video a year or two back...:) Not ready to really go through that here to the general public, just for my local folks.

[@austindenotter19]

Does tthe 372xpw oem 75 cc top end need port work or is it stronger but just as responsive as an old 372?

[@afleetcommand]

Thats a loaded question! None of them need port work! The XPW has smaller transfers to bring the power band down a few hundred RPM's. But while it likes to run at a lower RPM it makes good power, and is pretty snappy. Design to pull a longer bar west coast style vs. have the higher RPM's a standard 372 has. So it just depends on what you are looking for. I like a XPW with an 8 pin. Easy power.

[@krustysurfer]

More great priceless observations! Thank you Walt. Aloha

[@dmb10101]

Master class. Teach master class.

[@bryanmarks4070]

That’s pretty cool how did you learn to do all that. I’m diving down that road too but with Stihl. I work for the forest service in California and every station has a pile of broken saws the tags always say (broken) so I’m staring to play dr. Saw. Cool video.

[@ProteusDIY]

Hi there. Great video. I learned a lot as I have (7) 372xp/xt that need to be brought back to life from a tree service. I had one question - why did you get rid of the decomp? I thought with the bigger cc saws like this it's useful to have. Thanks!

[@afleetcommand]

It is, when I was younger and stronger removing decomps eliminated a source of leaks and the increased compression made them start faster... assuming I had the arm strength. Now older...I'm putting them back in some saws. In fact my 562HTSS has too much compression for the pull start.. was breaking them left and right so put one in that saw too

[@ProteusDIY]

@@afleetcommand Thank you for replying. And a big thank you for putting out all this great content. I'm sure plenty of beginners like me are learning a tremendous amount and it is thanks to teachers like you willing to take the time to share their knowledge and experience that makes it possible. But not all teachers are created equal and you, sir, are definitely one of the good ones. Many thanks.

[@jrui2953]

Muchas gracias, has eliminado todas mis dudas.

[@andybecker2693]

Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt. What an awesome song. You are showing your age on that one bud,lol!

[@johnclarke6647]

You put an Xtorq air filter holder on this saw. Did you use an Xtorq carb, too? The reason I knew it was an Xtorq base was because I saw the divider in it. The XP version does not have a divider.

[@ctlandscapemaintenancesolu494]

not too many people have time for this shit nice job

[@johnclarke6647]

It is a wonder there was not an explosion due to how hot those connecting rod journals got. it had to be about 700 degrees to turn them that blue. Gas ignites a whole lot less than that. That could have been a real Molotov cocktail.

[@afleetcommand]

Think that saw was straight gassed.....waiting for the rest of the saws from that fellow to show up one at a time with issues related to the event....have had three so far....6 to go...:) Job security?( interestingly enough the ones i build with Nachi's haven't shown up yet, there are two over there I built in 2015 with Nachi's. Out lasted the new ones. :) )

[@hnorrstrom]

Don't you guys in the US have xpg versions with heating in the handles? They seem uncommon in US videos. They are very common here in sweden. Almost all my husqvarnas are xpg as well as most people i know. I have a 372 xpg older generation great saw. Really great video also thanks.

[@austindenotter19]

Hard to get.

[@hnorrstrom]

@@austindenotter19Thanks, that's interesting. Well it is a feature that breaks sometimes and it adds a bit of extra weight.

[@jacklowe3788]

Enjoyed watching your videos - question please looking for saw that's as good as the pre torx newer 372 like the old model one of my friends has 2002 model, been great saw? Are them days gone now for saws as reliable as the older models? Saw some KZbin guys liking the newer 562, as far as newer saws would that be good one to get today for years trouble free service from somebody who takes good care / maintenance? Thanks for all your informative videos, jack

[@afleetcommand]

The newer X-torqs are sorted out...after 2016

[@jacklowe3788]

@@afleetcommand thanks then I'll go ahead & purchase 2018 used -

[@lightshine6044]

Is it ok to use green crankcase gasket from Huztl for 372 or is that gasket bad?

[@afleetcommand]

That gasket is fine

[@spcm2]

Hi. I have a Dynamac 50cc for the last 25years and now i want to buy a new saw. Would you recomend the 372xp or the 572xp? They are both x-torq right?

[@afleetcommand]

Prolly a 565 or 372

[@spcm2]

Thanks for your reply . I have now the opportunity to buy a 2011 372xp for less than 500$. I checked the serial Number and Its real. My doubt is If this is a xtorq or OE… the design of the xtorq is taller , even from the ones manufactured in 2011? And the decompression valve of the xtorq was already on top, in 2011? Thanks

[@barryshonbeck2006]

Really enjoy your videos and learning a lot! Can you take a case half from a 372 XP and a case half from a 372 XP XT, mate them together, and build a 372 XP (not XT) from it? I've got junk saws that often have one good side and I'd like to be able to build XP's using whatever halves are available.

[@afleetcommand]

I guess u can, just with the older case the "relief" for the cylinder flange is less as well as the casting is smaller in that area. I would check to see the deck height is close enough before "marrying" those differential case halves together. But the case screw locations and center of the main bearing pockets should be close enough to get something running :) Would I recommend it ? no

[@barryshonbeck2006]

@@afleetcommand Thanks for the quick reply and insights. I don't currently have one of each to tear apart so this will have to wait but you bring up great points. I'll definitely check the deck height when the time comes.

[@CHerille123]

What caused the two saws to fail like they did? What could have prevented the failure, or what could have been done differently?

[@afleetcommand]

Assuming you are asking about the 372 x-torq's? A few things will help them. Run them a little "rich" by setting the "no load" RPM in the 12800-13000 vs the max 13300. Make absolutely certain you keep the fins clean so they cool properly. ( Any saw really ). Another subtle one is don't over tighten the chain. I've seen that a few times where I see the chain on the saw "twang" tight ... :) Husqvarna seems to have made some upgrades in the 2016/17 time frame as I don't see the ones made later than 2017 failing any faster than any other saw. All saws will eventually wear out but they seem to have the 372's to where they fit right in with the rest of the saws on the market for service life.

[@toiletpaper5770]

Should you still aim for 12800-13000 at 7000ft??

[@ottohonkala6861]

no muffler opening at all after all that work?

[@purginss]

I see how you twisted the tank to get it in, makes sense now. What is confusing is the xtorque stuff. What are the new Huztl chinese 372xp's? I'm trying to make 2 out of 2 clapped OE 372's and 1 Huztl 372. The Huztl says x torque, is a 2 ring piston but the decomp is on the side. I was told they were identical to a real 372xp but this would prove different, right?

[@afleetcommand]

OE and X-Torqs don't mix on any thing related to top ends and intake. I've extensively covered that in the video's. I would always prefer to build into an OE vs. X-torq.

[@purginss]

@@afleetcommand So are the Huztl 372's a copy of the OE or the xtorque? Or is the top end it's own thing? Since the OE is shorter, which would the huztl top cover, handle and brake handle fit?

[@toiletpaper5770]

Should I still try for 12800-13000 at higher elevation??

[@afleetcommand]

yes

[@toiletpaper5770]

@@afleetcommand thanks for the reply

[@jasonhill3902]

Was watching thinking to myself he's going to laugh when he goes to start that saw and it's missing the choke rod. :)

[@afleetcommand]

But I caught it....:)

[@lightshine6044]

Is it better to get rid of divider in air filter holder of 372 XTorq?

[@afleetcommand]

If you have the understanding and skills, get rid of the divider from filter holder to cylinder and intake boot. Leave the divider in the carb, but die grind the intake port to a sharp edge on its divider, favoring the intake port to the crank case.... Deck the cylinder .020 and you have a running saw...:)

[@johnbernstein203]

Walt.....is there ever a time when you use Loctite on any screws or bolts during assembly?

[@afleetcommand]

not by brand, but put thread lock on a few models and locations

[@olafvidar9315]

So what's better, 372 xp or 372 xtorque?

[@jameswilson322]

Xp all day

[@redneck4741]

If you don't mind, give a simple explanation of why xp is better. I have both and other than weight I can't tell a difference

[@dentondunn4346]

@@redneck4741I just traded for one and says XP on it, can it possibly be an x torque?

[@e954rr2]

Can someone tell me if they share the same crank

[@afleetcommand]

What the original edition & X-torq? Yes and no. Dimensionally any crank from that series of saw will fit in any other. OE 365 will "fit" in a 372, 372 X-Torq in a Jonsered 2165. But there are slight differences within the series. Best to keep "XTorq" cranks in X-Torq saws and OE in OE saws with ONE exception. An X-Torq crank will work well with a 51.4 XPW top end as it has a heavier piston than the other "OE's" in the class. Bottom line is if your building a hobby saw, none of that matters so mix and match that cranks & pistons. If you are building a saw for a pro.... little differences will add life to your build if u keep the cranks matched to the piston (weight) they were designed for. The differences are small enough it won't matter for most.

[@afleetcommand]

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[@e954rr2]

@@afleetcommand thank you

[@slavoljubslijepcevic2657]

Super 372 xp....

[@mtbsobe]

I just bought a 372 xpw not knowing all of these changes it's a fire wood saw will I regret this saw with all of the changes? Or anything to look out for or do differently while normal operations

[@afleetcommand]

They run well, you won't be disappointed. The only thing is to NOT tune them "no load" past 13,000...that's it..

[@mtbsobe]

@@afleetcommand did they stop putting the nylon cage in crank bearings

[@mtbsobe]

I am impressed by it to bad it took me so long to get a decent size saw

[@garengtutorial8923]

Bagus

[@ИльяМамонов-ъ3е]

Farmertec crankcase 372 work well. I think this is the best part for 372 from farmertec) But bearings and seals can be thrown out immediately...