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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:14 Catching Up
00:19:43 Terrible Dental Numbing
00:22:47 Writer's Block, Unproductive Guilt
00:27:50 Jarvis's Dystopian Dream
00:29:33 Maintaining Energy & Motivation
00:32:02 What Is The Funniest TikTok
00:32:56 Jarvis's Content Cycle
00:33:29 Happy Pride Month!
00:34:06 A Boba Tragedy
00:37:42 Proper Way to Drink Boba?
00:43:44 Nothing Ever Happens
00:45:23 How To Hack Time
00:57:38 Sad Boyz Nightz
00:58:02 David Goggins
00:59:02 Ads? On a KZbin Video??
01:00:05 Pumping Iron
01:02:13 Addicted to Achievement
01:07:54 Thanks For Watching!
01:10:51 Nightz Sneak Peek

[@IsaVarg]

Jarvis with a trans flag shirt and Jordan repping butch lesbians is peak sad boyz drip

[@tardis58575]

This is very correct

[@TinyGhosty]

Happy Pride month fellow sad boyz fans!

[@__LB_]

Ayeee happy pride y’all ❤🎉

[@aydadae7337]

Cackling, happy pride month!!!

[@dmoney510]

Honestly duh yes!! Lmao

[@badger6882]

Jordan saying “was i there?” As Jarvis described his dream is peak friend behaviour when you’re explaining your dream

[@svenmurphy-deyoung8209]

it means a lot to me seeing cis men i respect wear trans pride stuff as a trans person, like knowing people i listen to respect my right to existence means so much with how the world is

[@ozmarichardson6524]

❤❤❤

[@pinkavyek]

same

[@asheronthehoise4813]

i love this sm, literally i see cis guys or gal wearing a trans pride merch and i love them. they have my heart.

[@leigha_lathyrus]

happy pride month to the side ass appreciators

[@teathomas]

I cannot emphasize enough how much I relate to the problems Jarvis talked about going through this episode. It literally sounds like he’s describing my symptoms. I hope things get worked out (for anyone going through this)

[@sarahbearbabygirl]

same. made me actually make an appt with an endocrinologist

[@emilym.556]

Same! Being able to do one thing a day, and not being able to do the things you even LIKE to do because you're so fatigued for no reason. It's such a painful struggle and can feel shameful. Wouldn't wish it on anyone :(

[@dannymarie]

I had a lot of similar problems, and it ended up being my thyroid. I hope y'all get the help you need, thyroid or otherwise :)

[@minimoon402]

@@dannymarie I was going to say that too. I have Hashimoto's and it sounded exactly like my symptoms at the beginning

[@zizirose6312]

It's super weird because I've been feeling exactly like this for like a week too and it's been really freaking me out.

[@smolplantboi]

It was so comforting to hear about both their ADHD symptoms. It's so hard to explain to people why I can't perform "simple tasks". Like for real, bushing my teeth sometimes is just too bothersome but I also hate not brushing them.

[@monicarenee7949]

Fellow ADHDer here. You know what helped me brush my teeth? An electronic toothbrush. Idk why but it feels like less mental work. I also struggle mentally with showering but found a soap I like. Idk it’s a weird thing that things that should be easy are hard.

[@yourlocalcryptidd]

Same! I struggle with doing basic work even if I WANT to do it and hearing them talk about it just made me feel a bit less invalidated.

[@Esterscape]

Sometimes when my adhd makes it extremely difficult to do basic tasks I keep a toothbrush, toothpaste and a spit cup by my bed because I might want to brush my teeth but I just can’t go to the bathroom to do it. Maybe it’s a bit disgusting but at least I brushed my teeth. Trying to explain the feeling of not being able to do something to “normal” people is so difficult. “Just do it, it’s not that hard” and I just can’t do it and they don’t understand why.

[@sidasterdisaster]

@@Esterscape I do this with floss and it has made SUCH a big difference in my ability to maintain dental hygiene.

[@NichHustler]

​@@monicarenee7949I'm gonna get on that electric toothbrush game. Lemme also add my one tip in here too. I got shower cloth gloves. Like wearing your shower cloth in your hands as gloves. It just weirdly makes more sense and helped remove some of the friction of showering.

[@myawilkes7560]

Fatigue is such a frustrating symptom. It could be caused by so many things and it takes forever to narrow it down. I wish you all the luck and health, I know from experience this sucks

[@ellabiddy4741]

Went to the doctor recently for my yearly but also requested a blood test cause of this, and everything was in the normal ranges but my b12 was very close to being lower than the normal range so my doctor said that could be the cause and I started taking supplements and I feel a lot better. Even if results come back “normal” it’s good for your doctor to be aware of concerns just in case that could point to it. Before I started taking b12 I could sleep 10 hours and still want a nap in the middle of the day and it was so frustrating cause I needed to study and couldn’t just stop everything and take a nap

[@AnneLK05]

It was comforting to hear the whole part about adhd and executive dysfunction + the whole 'feel-bad-but-tests-clean' because I've been having almost the exact same problems for like the past year or two and I feel like I'm losing my mind sometimes and professionals often don't really help with those feelings of guilt, I wish everyone that relates a very "I-hope-you-find-a-way-through-it-all"

[@Ratqueenaisy]

Yes the feeling bad but testing clean is so discouraging. It feels hopeless sometimes and its so tiring. I hope you find something that works for you soon!

[@Nassifeh]

I'm pretty sure that for a huge percentage of people in this boat right now, it's long COVID--yes even if you think you didn't get it (but haven't tested regularly) or even if you got it and it was mild? Way, way too much of this just in the last couple years. But then that's like... okay, and? And then what? Even if that's it, knowing helps very little.

[@Yoodledoodle]

I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 13 (now 24) and my coworker is starting her freshman year at college, and she said her therapist always told her she did too well in school to have ADHD. When I tell you I HOLLERED “LOL GIRL WTF YOU DEF HAVE IT”… flash forward to last week when she saw a doctor and they diagnosed her officially. I say, if you feel like you have it, you’re still allowed to do all the little neurodivergent tips and tricks to help! There are a lot of great ADHD insta pages and the Huberman lab episode about dopamine is a game changer! A di diagnosis might get you access to a prescription, but all my friends are just overdoing it on caffeine due to the Adderall shortage right now 😂

[@NexLegacyAccount]

As an ADHD lesbian that only figured out what my mental health deal was at 28, this episode has me feeling SO SEEN.

[@Unfortunately_Mickey]

Wow why you gotta call me out like this 😂

[@quitefankly]

SAME

[@who__cares__]

Yikes

[@NexLegacyAccount]

@@who__cares__ Lol what's "yikes" about that?

[@stars4809]

​@@NexLegacyAccount I'd generously assume they meant yikes it sucks that you didn't get any support for it earlier haha. On a separate note I just figured out what's up with my noggin last week so can relate.

[@Sammyjon123]

i genuinely cannot begin to tell you how validating it is to hear you two talk about being wiped out from doing one thing in a day. the fact that one of you can say that AND has been (and performed really well) in a literal boxing match is incredible to me and overall seeing yall talk about it so earnestly really gives me hope that i can actually like, do things longterm as a person despite being so exhausted. thank you.

[@Sammyjon123]

like youve talked about this sort of thing a lot and so hearing you say it like that just hit really hard idk. im so tired all the time and in so much pain and ive never heard any sort of content creator really talk about those feelings in a way that made it really clear they like... actually get it, before. i hope it's not too hard to not blame yourselves for the bad days, you're both fucking killing it

[@amyreynolds27]

I’ve never felt more seen than when Jordan said “I have to brush my teeth today of all days?? But I’m already sitting down.” Maybe it’s time to reevaluate how well my adhd meds are working 😅

[@martianketchup280]

the way they burst out in laughter every single time they watch the boba video is just so good. best podcast

[@oliviab26]

for anyone struggling with similar symptoms to jarvis: when your bloodwork comes back normal, i recommend talking to your primary care doctor about wether they think it could be Dysautonomia! I have that, in the form of P.O.T.S, which can cause lightheadedness/dizziness/sweating, and can cause you to crave salty food. It can be comorbid with ADHD and can also develop after a viral illness (like covid or the flu).

[@ben-tb6bx]

lol i was actually just about to comment the same thing!

[@RosaHernandez-uw2ul]

I have POTS too. It's a result of having hEDS. Interestingly enough, hEDS is also an ADHD comorbidity.

[@oliviab26]

@@RosaHernandez-uw2ul i do want to get checked for EDS, as i have multiple signs and comorbities, but nothing severe enough to warrant concern. i feel like i’d rather not know

[@Yoodledoodle]

@@oliviab26 hey, I can totally understand not wanting to be told about something you have no control over, especially regarding your health, but if you’re having significant symptoms, it could be good to have a doctor make sure nothing major is going on. I was driving home one day and passed out and for the first time, and because I didn’t know the signs and symptoms I didn’t pull over in time and drove into a ditch. Luckily no one was hurt, but if I’d had known more about what was going on, I probably could’ve prevented it.

[@oliviab26]

@@Yoodledoodle I understand that. as of right now, my symptoms haven’t had any significant impact on my health.

[@tgime1]

Being a depressed person who’s now pregnant, a turn-based game of choosing which activity I absolutely want to do knowing that all others might not happen feels so true. It’s not a bad thing IMO, tbh I think a lot of us expect too much of ourselves

[@TreesPlease42]

Modernity pulls us in too many directions. And a baby is quite the change! Keep it up and you'll get through it ❤

[@Dotmeblack]

Yes! Being pregnant forced me to become comfortable with doing the bare minimum because it was my best. It was so hard for me at first but has been super helpful now as a parent (and person,in general) actually.

[@VultureSkins]

Hope everything is going well :)

[@beebopbug]

have been going through the exact same thing with my adhd + autism for a long time now and it's so frustrating how isolating it is to not have the energy to even take care of yourself, let alone answer texts, leave the house, socialize. spending my friday night alone in my apartment, just eating breakfast at 9:30pm through my sobs so thank you for making me feel a lot less alone

[@beebopbug]

ok nevermind what i said before what REALLY has me feeling seen is the boba discourse

[@ellabiddy4741]

I’ve realized over the past 2-3 years of research and reflection that I have autism but I don’t have a diagnosis and if I just said that no one would believe me, but it would make life so much easier if I could cause it’s not like I wanna use it as an excuse for things, but an explanation. Like why a loud restaurant makes me irritated and not wanting to talk anymore for example. The productivity things I deal with and pickiness with food are both things my mom deals with so she at least understands those things but a lot of the things I deal with it would be so much easier to explain if I could explain how it relates to autism but instead I’m just like “yeah idk why I’m like this so weird lol”

[@3starsburningbright]

@@ellabiddy4741 if you genuinely believe you have autism, self diagnosing is a thing and a lot of people who cant get diagnosed professionally use it as an alternative. generally people in online spaces are pretty accepting of it and wont really doubt you in my experience (unless you come across the wrong people) even if people irl dont take it seriously. when you’re able to, you can by all means get diagnosed cause self diagnosing isnt usually a replacement for getting checked by a professional but it can relieve a lot of the stress of having to explain why you do certain things or act a certain way or having to mask your symptoms

[@beebopbug]

@@ellabiddy4741 dude i relate to everything you said so hard. it took me around the same amount of time of researching to confidently self-diagnose, and although there are definitely still some folks who don't see self diagnosis as valid, id say a vast like 75-90% of the autistic community see's self diagnosis as equally valid to professional diagnosis, especially bc a lot of us have faced ableism ourselves from medical "professionals" just because our autistic traits aren't the exact same as their one distant family member with autism. tbh it took me until hearing a bunch of credible sources (autistic folks and reputable org's) talk about how they saw self-diagnosis as valid to take the step because as a high-masking autistic female the imposter syndrome can be so real. sorry for the novel aha, i just really relate and hope i can maybe help you to feel a bit more accepted by the autistic community. if you wanna chat more about autism stuff feel free to message me on instagram, @goldenoveralls

[@ellabiddy4741]

@@3starsburningbright yeah online I have found that kind of support. Unfortunately my family wouldn’t believe me and would probably be horrified I’ve even considered it

[@PopcornEmma]

i feel you on the ultimate frustration of blood tests coming back fine when you Do Not Feel Fine (hope you’re able to figure out what’s up eventually!)

[@challennarose270]

Seriously. My MIL was feeling this way for a year but her doctors just ignored it saying she was stressed…she has stage 4 lung cancer. Like wtf.

[@mayas883]

Yeah omg, a nurse once called with the results and said "congrats you're all healthy" and I just broke out in tears 😅

[@Retrospectator14]

Relating hard to Jarvis describing that random low blood sugar feeling, I used to frantically down juice and snacks cause I thought i was gonna pass out, but doctor always said it was fine. Plot twist, I ended up with type one diabetes after all lol Edit to add psa: If you're at risk or concerned about diabetes, the signs to keep an eye out for are excessively drinking water, using the bathroom more, sudden weight loss, fatigue and blurred vision. If you have those, talk to a doctor about getting tested.

[@dearbangtan9668]

oh this is crazy to me because this used to happen to me a lot and doctors were so sure i had diabetes (because i was fat lol) but turns out i was just a weak child.

[@dearbangtan9668]

i hope you're managing your diabetes well tho... i had a hard time when i was misdiagnosed.

[@Retrospectator14]

@@dearbangtan9668 I'm managing it pretty well now, but it definitely changed things for me. Medical unknowns and assumptions are never fun, I hear you there

[@iamjustkiwi]

When you guys get those low blood sugar symptoms, do you get like...weak, dizzy, tired, and shaky? I've had it happen a few times but none of my tests have shown signs of diabetes and it doesn't run in my family. I am pretty sure its hypoglycemia because if I eat something sweet it usually clears up but it feels awful when it happens.

[@Retrospectator14]

​@@iamjustkiwi Yup pretty much exactly that, shakiness, lightheadedness, anxiety, and the carnal desire to eat. Now that I wear a glucose monitor I know exactly what's happening but without that it's a horrible feeling to have without warning.

[@Yamismol]

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a kid, but never really was explained what that meant other then “you can’t focus” so you guys talking about your symptoms, especially the fatigue I’m like “Oh that’s familiar”. Makes me feel less crazy

[@honeysweet4804]

i feel this!!

[@saggguy7]

Hey if its any reassurance, I am a fast drug metabolizer as well and have done a LOT of research on anesthetics during surgery for the same reason! I'm a trans man doing a full binary transition, so surgery has been a big part of my life the last couple years. I found out that the anesthesiologist monitors you for signs of distress (like increased heart rate, etc.) during surgery and if they notice any sign of anything out of the ordinary they'll give you more drugs. Your anesthesiologist would more than likely know you were starting to experience distress before you even knew. Of course, anesthesia awareness can sometimes happen, but your fast metabolism doesn't make it any more likely. There's an anesthesologist named Max Feinstein with a youtube channel by the same name, learning about anesthesia on his channel really helped my surgery anxiety. Now I can just look forward to my gender-affirming surgeries instead of being scared of them.

[@mightymeatymech]

It's not as life changing, but I'm having wisdom tooth surgery soon and this made me feel better, too 🎉 I feel like that movie with jessica alba got stuck in my brain lmfao

[@BerryBlue123]

as someone who just got diagnosed with adhd as an adult, growing up, I thought there was something wrong with me. I considered it a moral failing that I couldn’t do my homework or I forgot my wallet so a friend had to pay for me. Getting a diagnosis as an adult means through all your formative years you’ve internalized and blamed yourself for not being able to what everyone else seems to do so easily. That feeling of ‘I love my passions but I can’t do them and I don’t know why’

[@ludo_narr]

Same here. My psychiatrist wanted me to go through my old school reports to find some evidence for signs of ADHD in my childhood. From 1st to 10th grade, literally all of them mentioned some variation of "needs to focus and organize himself better" or "could perform much better if he concentrated more during class". It made decades of failure and sadness come into focus for the first time in my life.

[@kendalltucker5226]

As someone who had to go through the monthly torture of calling multiple pharmacies today to find my adhd meds (which ironically is a near impossible task when you have adhd) I am so glad they are talking about the shortage. It has flipped my life upside down the better part of a year. Also I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels vyvanse only lasts a few hours rather than the supposed 12-13 hours I was promised.

[@franjkav]

It definitely doesn’t last 12-13 for me either. Barely even 8

[@Tinybeeni]

First of all, as a person with adhd, i love the relatable adhd talk. And second of all, as a person with adhd, i love slurping up a bunch of bobas in the first few sips and chewing them up as a squishy little snack. Its so satisfying to me, its like orbeez cereal

[@DoobieDoctor5000]

Jordan a boss for expressing his depression. I've experienced depression throughout my entire life and just want to give him a virtual fistbump.

[@HearingWall7238]

I thought you said hes a boss for experiencing depression i was like "im tired i should probably go to sleep" but i reread it and saw it said expressed

[@lauri882]

I have chronic fatigue and a couple other issues, and extreme fatigue is literally the worst of any symptom I've ever had. It sucks when doctors are saying they can't find anything wrong. I hope Jarvis and everybody going through this finds answers. ❤

[@Maria_745]

Productive procrastination is the most ADHD thing on earth lol like I need to be stimulated but if I do the one important thing before the deadline i will perish

[@oliviab26]

Jarvis, I audibly gasped when you said you took your Vyvanse at 7pm. If i took mine at that time, I would not sleep. it’s so crazy how it affects everyone so different

[@franjkav]

Sometimes it’s easier to sleep when I’m not so fidgety and my mind isn’t going crazy. Also many days I’m so tired I can still sleep after taking meds

[@Nassifeh]

I have a serious problem on weekends where I get up after a reasonable sleep, take my meds, sit down in bed with my laptop for a few minutes, and wake up four hours later, because I'm just so *chill*.

[@oliviab26]

@@franjkav i’m wondering if i can’t sleep bc my meds are wearing off it i take them too late, that seems like a likely possibility

[@mint0zs]

as a work listener, i appreciated jordan describing the boba tragedy in detail 😂

[@rainbowsoffire]

The part about having to frame things correctly for medical professionals is so real, and I'm really glad that it's something more people are talking about. Also sidetone for anyone that feels like they're dealing with one action a day, I'd recommend looking into pacing because it's hard and there are ways to manage it so that you can better do the things you want. It still sucks, it's something I struggle with with my disabilities but it can be really helpful.

[@isabellabroome7895]

22:45 this whole part is so real and shit i have to remind myself of all the time. "im doing everything i can" is such a gentle reminder to the brain to calm down, and i'm thankful to have been reminded of this today :)

[@MPHknows]

I am resonating so hard with this conversation on mental health. Thanks so much for sharing! I feel so validated just to hear others who feel like I do.

[@endeevixart4676]

I just got out of the hospital a week ago for that kinda stuff. I went to the er I felt like my body was shutting down from the exhaustion and they said yeah somethings wrong, we’re gonna admit you for a few days at the hospital. And now a week later and 500 blood and machine tests later and no one knows what tf is going on I hate that others are experiencing the same thing but I’ll admit it does help to know I’m not alone with this stuff

[@erika2754]

Yes! I’ve been dealing with this for 10 years with no solution and they keep saying everything is “normal” and “hmmm I don’t know” leaving me frustrated and unable to get help from anyone or anything because no one will diagnose me officially or take the time to figure it out/want to help. Gotta love America (not).

[@beththebubbly69]

Jarvis, as someone with Fibromyalgia, maybe you should ask your doctor about a referral to a rheumatologist? bc your issues sound remarkably similar to mine, so it may be something different it may not but it's worth floating by

[@camlelelelele]

I was gonna say the same thing!! I've had fibromyalgia since I was a child, diagnosed at 20, and it sounds identical. Sorry to hear you're (both) going through similar things

[@reckless_herb]

yoooo i’ve thought of that almost every time he’s mentioned his struggles with health. I’ve got fibromyalgia and it gives me chronic fatigue. sad boyz be getting me through those rough days

[@captainnemo7690]

Yeah, as a fellow fibro patient, listening to him reconstruct spoon theory from his day-to-day experiences was eerily familiar.

[@plushbats]

i was thinking the same thing! i’m diagnosed with both fibromyalgia and me/cfs and it took me five years to finally get diagnosed because there isn’t really anything you can test for.

[@dannymarie]

To me, it sounds very similar to my thyroid problems. The overlap of medical ailments can get so confusing! I hope Jarvis gets it sorted :)

[@redundantmartyr]

Jordan's laughter brings me SO much joy! Showing Jordan funny and/or unhinged content could be its own separate podcast and I would watch every episode on repeat. 💕

[@beawatson5224]

I'm autistic and chronically fatigued and like so afraid to go to the doctor to get like blood testes to find out what's actually wrong because its such an exhausting system and its SO HARD to explain this to people who don't get it. its cool to listen and laugh about it and remember that it's not just me who goes through this

[@Bunniejasmine]

seeing my friends' shirt in this makes me very happy, they're awesome :)

[@PuppetOnStrings666]

31:35 thank you for normalizing how hard it is for some people to brush their teeth before bed. I know i need to, i know i should, and i really want to, but i just CANT. Thank you Jarvis

[@garbagesalt]

i started brushing my teeth in the shower cause that way im already in the room and doing stuff so i don't have an excuse not to and it's made me way more consistent

[@PuppetOnStrings666]

@@garbagesalt I'll have to try that, thank you!

[@rileyswrld9690]

18:17 i really love how open jarvis is when it comes to talking about his mental health, it's very comforting for someone who also takes vyvanse to hear somewhat about a certain problem i had to go through if that makes sense. the adderall shortage impacted ppl taking vyvanse as well or at least in my area. ppl who normally take adderall then took vyvanse leading to a shortage of both. this really impacted me bc i had to be unmedicated whilst dealing extremely hard time

[@lance7556]

Oh hey my favorite podcast just dropped a new episode right as I was ready to unload the dishwasher 😃 thank you Jarvis and Jordan for making chores less boring

[@tardis58575]

Notification for new sad boyz = instant serotonin

[@EMTMILITIA]

It usually give me melatonin

[@LordDomielOfElysium]

@@EMTMILITIA melatonin is the sleeping med dude

[@crow1247]

​@@LordDomielOfElysium honk shoooo mimimimimi

[@seraphini1170]

the convos about adhd struggles made me feel so seen 💔

[@jollygreenwhxre]

dude i feel the dentistry part so much. i recently had to get cavities filled in four separate appointments, and at the last one i had to keep stopping them to get more numbing medication when they were drilling cuz i could feel it. i also very much felt like a baby but tooth/jaw pain is excruciating. the dentist and the assistant were both like “that’s weird, you should have been fine for a lot longer”, which made me feel more embarrassed but it genuinely hurt so bad

[@user-unfriendly_-o-]

This boba video almost killed me, I'm obsessed

[@flannelgay420]

I've been dealing with a really bad period of depression and fatigue lately and this episode couldn't be more timely. Jordan's explanation of how we often carry misplaced guilt over not being able to do things even though it's not our fault and it's already hurting us was really something I needed to hear. Thank you both for always having honest, insightful discussions about mental health - they always make me feel less alone.

[@genderneutraluser]

i was listenting to this in the background and when i heard jarvis mentioning the light headedness i was so shocked because im going through that exact same thing and I've never heard of someone else going thru that

[@sdsh990]

I love that Jordan goes to therapy once in three months and now we all get free therapy from these conversations. I fuckin love it❤❤❤

[@eminimh]

“you shouldn’t feel guilty if it hurts you too.”

[@ghost_type_dan]

An addition to the hilarity of the boba story: you can see, and hear, when he shakes his old cup THERES STILL ICE IN IT. This man is clearly in a hot climate, and he didn't wait the 15-30 minutes it takes for ice to melt

[@heymalma]

Jarvis - this may sound wild but I also deal with every symptom you’ve talked about in this video and past ones where you’ve mentioned it and doctors don’t know what’s up. If you ever figure it out, that might be a victory for both of us. The only thing I’ve figured out with my fatigue is that it is almost guaranteed to happen when I have a stressful conversation, have a panic attack, or do anything that is clearly stressing me out. But fighting that fatigue and controlling it feels impossible. The guilt is so real. I run a small business and it has definitely been impacted by the fatigue as well as my part time job. I also happen to deal with the hunger right after I’ve eaten (makes me think that they’re linked) and that + my ED makes my weight fluctuate constantly. More than just wanting you to feel better, I have a vested interest in your recovery and love when you share your experience with it! We are in this together!!!

[@nina.robbs565]

jarvis' discussion on fatigue is so familar to other people with chronic fatigue and pain, spoon theory helps explain a lot of fatigue. I can't go to a full day of school and then clean my room the same day, each of those by itself takes all of my spoons, and I i won't get any more spoons until 2 days after, when I've recovered. having constant pain means I need to weigh all of the chores and things I "need" to do, like see friends, go to school, clean my room, take out trash, wash my face, do laundry, I have to sacrifice the "less important" normal human activities for the "more important" ones.

[@mayas883]

Exactly! It sounded like he was describing spoon theory with the game stamina metaphor!

[@nina.robbs565]

@@mayas883 the game stamina is exactly how I explained how easily fatigued I am before I found the spoon theory!! it helps it click for neurotypical or able-bodied people, it's always so hard to just say "I'm tired and it feels like my bones literally can't move"😭

[@Dotmeblack]

All of the physical feelings Jarvis is describing sound exactly like how my ADHD fueled c-ptsd anxiety manifests. My therapist and I are working on dealing with my body physically feeling like it's dying when it's actually just an adrenal response from panic. Turns out you don't even need a mental stress trigger if it's been an issue for long enough. 🙃 I also thought I had diabetes at first; I even get the tingling limbs.

[@mightymeatymech]

Now wait a damn minute, cause my arm just started intensely tingling a couple weeks ago.... 🤔🤔🤔 And I, too, have CPTSD and ADHD.... much to ponder...

[@Dotmeblack]

@@mightymeatymech mine comes and goes with my anxiety levels. Carpal tunnel doesn't help, either! Lol.

[@AlexR05e]

I literally screamed when you said "You, just you, Alex!" And had to pause to calm myself then you said "O'Brian" and that got me good. IDK why but it just startled me so much lol.

[@DadJokeCinema]

In the Marine Corps, they teach you that your body starts telling you to stop at like 70-80% of your potential so that you don't harm yourself, but that means you have potentially like 30% more to give if you just push past the warning signs and accept the consequences.

[@tylerbalazic4592]

I also have the same issue with getting my mouth numbed at the dentist. Just to get a filling I had to get so numb that my jaw couldn't fully open just to stop the pain. I hear it's an ADHD thing.

[@franjkav]

It can also be related to red hair with some types of anesthesia

[@tylerbalazic4592]

@@franjkav iiiiinteresting red hair runs in my family but I don't have it myself

[@edwardlwittlif]

I did the cold shower thing for a while. I did it involuntarily, because my landlords *suck* and they left me & my neighbors without hot water for several months during the winter. My life was... not improved.

[@Carolina57685]

"I'm not a fish that became a man! I'm not cursed by a witch!" is such a funny line and it sounds like it came straight out of Adventure Time

[@jaleighadunlap8791]

i love how open both of you are with your experiences it feels so relieving to hear you speak on it and feel less isolated

[@donthugmeimautistic]

I can relate a lot to what Jarvis is going through right now, too. But I couldn't help but laugh at "I've tried every stimulant on the market"

[@isabellindsay5695]

Not to assume anything about Jarvis's health, but listening to him talk about his normal blood work, sounded a lot lot my own experience in getting diagnosed with fibromyalgia. All of my bloodwork, MRIs, and X-rays have come back normal. I have chronic pain, fatigue, and brain fog. I also get the really awful blood sugar feeling. I've tested my blood sugar when I feel like that, and it is still technically in a normal range for non-diabetics. Speaking of diabetes, if anyone thinks they have diabetes, the four symptoms are increased thirst, frequent urination, fatigue, and unexplained weight loss. Doesn't matter how old you are. My husband was 24 when he was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes. Knowing these symptoms saved my husband from ever experiencing diabetic ketoacidosis, which is life threatening!

[@carolime8631]

Being a person diagnosed with Mental Health issues AND Narcolepsy, i totally feel this. Especially the being tired all the time and overwhelmed by the things I need to do. And those dizzy spells that make me feel like I have low blood sugar. Edit: the more I hear the more I think a sleep specialist might be something to look into. But hey, I'm not a doctor. Hope these Sad Boyz start feeling better soon

[@shynye]

I love this community of everyone supporting each other through our mental health struggles ❤️

[@This-Present-Darkness]

I'm really glad you came out with the shorts channel. There are certain segments of the pod that I want to show people but I always have a hard time scrubbing around to the exact place.

[@emilyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy553]

It was awesome to listen to you both discuss ADHD struggles, depression, and mental health. Super supportive and comforting. The shame surrounding disfunction can feel so heavy. Thank you for sharing!

[@420Kleiner]

with the terrible dental numbing, i was getting a cavity filled and the first dose of anesthetic didnt quite do it, so i told them i could feel it hurting a bit, and at first they were like "no thats just pressure" thankfully they didnt keep on going after i said it the second time

[@lilysmith9781]

i love you guys for being so real. it’s easy to think everyone on the internet has it all together and all figured out. i have adhd too and the procrastinating and feeling stuck has been stressing me out so much. when you guys were talking about it it made me feel a little less crazy.

[@timenotime]

Hey boys! Nordic person note on the cold shower/water thing: it's not horrible and unpleasant when you combine it with a sauna. I know saunas are not commonplace on that side of the pond but still. It's very therapeutic, relaxing, and good for your circulation to do a combination of sitting in the sauna & taking a dip in some cold water (which doesn't have to be an ice hole btw)

[@starrr365]

I ordered boba in Morocco and they gave me a normal sized straw so I had to drink it without... sadly the bubbles all stayed at the bottom until the end but it did taste fantastic (I only mention Morocco cause I was surprised to see boba there in general)

[@destinyl8918]

I really appreciate Jarvis and Jordan talking about their mental health. as someone who was recently diagnosed with ADHD after 22 years, it's extremely helpful to hear about their experiences and be able to go "hey that's me!" it gives me a way to understand my brain and a way to describe to my therapist what's going on in my head. thank you so much guys!

[@Hinata8778]

When Jarvis was talking about the blood tests and how frustrating it is when they're good, I felt it so hard, and I also went: "it's the adhd" again and again, because it is. So many forget that adhd can affect everything from your eyesight to muscle cramps, on top of the stereotypical symptoms. The most annoying for me is the fatigue, because it's such a bizarre fatigue that can't be explained. I can't describe it to people no matter how hard I try, because the way it feels physically is just so weird.

[@user-vt5pu8rt5d]

I love watching these two. Hands down the most interesting to listen to and their voices are 🤌🏼 soothing as heck. My favourite people to watch during the day by far

[@beck699]

I love that jordan is dressed like a garden center employee. Like, he just is, casually.

[@jackirwin9042]

Being in the middle of a Covid scare right now not having a definitive way to say whether I’m sick or not is driving me insane and supercharged my panic attacks again. I cannot tell you how therapeutic it is listening to you guys especially hearing Jarvis and having similar symptoms for the past few months as him. You guys rock so freaking much!!!

[@viviantompkins7925]

Crotch, sideass, and cankle - the Holy Trinity

[@apothekerrie]

partway through the tiktok I started thinking "okay this isn't that funny" I GOT FUCKING JUMPSCARED BY HOW HARD THE END MADE ME LAUGH

[@Honeymooncake]

This is my first sad boyz podcast and what Jordan said at 2:20 hit home hard. My life is improving vastly but the chemicals in my brain continue to malfunction. It feels like no matter how great life gets, there’s a massive weight on my shoulders when i try to enjoy things. I’ve been trying to reframe that feeling though, I try to view the undue emotional pain as weight added to an exercise. Life will never be perfect, but if i can someday lose the emotional weight I’ll be So much stronger.

[@abigail2699]

jarvis i'm feeling the exact same symptoms and have been for a while. i hope you get it worked out and for anyone else feeling the same, we got this!!

[@ryann.2494]

as somebody with undiagnosed adhd i cannot begin to describe how helpful and validating it is to hear you guys talk about your struggles. its truly a battle every day reminding myself im not just “lazy”

[@mothsmen2220]

the first half of this video made me feel so much better about what i have been experiencing recently that feeling of wanting to do something so bad but your body wont let you is the worst feeling

[@mintymelancholy]

as someone with chronic illness/pain/fatigue, jarvis's story really resonated with me and i love how you both address just, not being ABLE to do things, and having to come to terms with it, and try to make it not affect your whole self worth. also, at 27:00 you both perfectly explain spoon theory 😂

[@austyntistic]

yall talking about your experiences with adhd is so insanely relatable in a way i cant even describe and its so ? crazy comforting and sad to know other people understand the constant, everyday fatigue i go through yk? its nice and Not nice at the same time

[@Chewbarta]

17:38 when will this fucking shortage end?! Like I went three months without my medication till I broke down and had to find some other pharmacy that had it. Since then my productivity skyrocketed. I feel you Jarvis

[@jtc2691]

There are non-stimulant ADHD medications that have a lot less side effects. I had to switch to non-stimulant because of the side effects I was having

[@fartsupmybutt]

seeing jordan laugh so hard at that man was funny asf, i’ve been watching y’all’s podcast all day at work and it’s been keeping me off the socials which is a nice change:)

[@lilyevans1025]

I so so appreciate hearing people I look up to talk about mental health like this - especially relating to ADHD and guilt surrounding productivity. I identified heavily with what Jordan said in the beginning in realising how depressed he's been! I recently moved in with people that I love and changed jobs to something I actually enjoy, and yet I've felt like my entire world has been crumbling around me. I realised recently that because I'm now in a good place with a lot of the central parts of my life, I finally have opportunity to take up the time and space it requires to break down - after the years that it had been building up! I feel that since I've realised this I've been a bit more okay with allowing myself to be depressed. I hope that anyone seeing this comment will be reminded to allow themselves the time and space that it takes to feel - it's essential for all types of mental recovery

[@gabsmariew]

i have never felt so seen by the experience of taking adhd medication than in this video wow

[@m-yw1pp]

been really dysphoric and down today and seeing Jarvis's shirt made me so happy

[@Ratqueenaisy]

Really loved this episode! I related a lot to Jarvis and (from what I understand) the struggle to find the right medication and feeling bad all the time.

[@macularius]

The natural light was the first thing I noticed when y'all started recording in the new space, it's so nice!

[@gin2943]

I also just went two weeks without my Vyvanse. I had a cold that's resulted in lingering fatigue, and come to think of it, I haven't taken my B12 or zinc (I'm so deficient that I have a dose you can't buy over the counter) in a couple weeks. It's been awful, but this makes me feel so much better hearing that it's not just me. I've been waking up at 9am at the earliest.

[@weekendreligion5753]

Going through a difficult time and been feeling pretty joyless. The Boba segment is making me laugh, and I really needed that. Thanks guys ❤

[@WaalkR]

this has grown to be my fav podcast to chill and draw to. Cheering for both of you!!

[@abbylove8373]

Jordan talking about his psychiatrist appointment reminded me that i haven't had an appointment in 3 months and i was supposed to email my doctor for an appointment 3 weeks ago 😭😭, i also checked and I'm running out of one of my meds in a week 😭 and i have to email my insurance because they still haven't reimbursed me for my prescription from 3 months ago. I genuinely want to thank you guys so much for reminding me I'm sending the emails right now👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 great episode btw

[@taylifts]

MY FINAL WISH FOR SAD BOYZ WAS TO GET TIMESTAMPS AND NOW I CAN FINALLY REST

[@jessikajohnson4906]

Man, I’ve been struggling with a lot of the same things and hearing this is so validating. Like I want to do the things but my body’s like nooo we’re sooo tired!! Lay down all day instead!! Don’t do the things you like. Do nothing instead and feel bad about it for the rest of the day

[@SnootyFarkleboob]

This is so validating I'm crying and now I'm laughing through the tears. Just... thank you both. ❤

[@paezie12]

Now I want boba.... This episode needs more sideass

[@lotti696]

hearing you guys talk about adhd so casually and understanding is making me have fuzzy feelings, i feel seen, thank u

[@shavono8402]

Hearing Jordan and Jarvis describe the Spoons Model without knowing that that's what it is is really funny to me for anyone that doesn't know, it's the concept that you get a certain number of spoons in a day and that each task takes some of those spoons. Different tasks take different amounts for different people. When you're out of spoons, that's like your "action points" being spent for the day. (and no there's no reason that it uses spoons, it's just funnier that way)

[@gumjar229]

when you guys were talking about how, if procrastination means you don't care, you wouldn't care about anything, i felt seen. it took so long for me to get my adhd diagnosis (was 27 at the time, now 28). for the longest time, i always got slapped with the depression diagnosis, but it was so mild that depression didn't make sense, and antidepressants never did anything for me. i had a counselor tell me that i must not care about my education because i was struggling to attend classes, and that was one of the most hurtful things to me. it stuck with me for a long time. i'm not in a perfect spot with mental health now (never will be), but i'm just glad i can finally relate to people experiencing the same things i have

[@elizathegamer413]

This video just autoplayed whilr i was just watching other sad boys podcasts but the damn comments abt adhd were so relatable god i love that

[@waterbug5950]

this podcast is honestly perfect to unwind to after a long day at work 10/10 episode