UPHILL BRAKES? Cog railway trains are weird... [3/4 show 2x03]

This week, we learn more Cog-isms from Dusty's friend Jimmy, from the Cog!
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[@KPen3750]

A Lawrie and Hyce crossover would be amazing!! Imagine Hyce running the Y7 at the Mid Suffolk

[@pietersnackaert]

I mean, hyce would go hammers to the wall while Lawrie would take it slow, Americans run engines a lot heavier then anywhere else

[@Lemonaitor]

@lmm make it real

[@alexlail7481]

How about a Tom Scott cameo

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

Only if we get Lawrie to come drive 491 after that

[@PowerTrain611]

​@@Sigil_Firebrand#LawriegoestoAmericatour when

[@Ti_Daley]

Sausage egg thing Leighton was confusing was probably 'Toad in the hole' which is sausages in a waffle batter. Bubble and squeak is croquettes made of potatoes and vegetable leftovers from a traditional Sunday roast

[@Hyce777]

That sounds delightful

[@Nabitz]

It is not good personal

[@NeneExists]

@@Hyce777 it's pretty damn amazing, and you can have it with runny fried eggs

[@TheDutchRanger]

I laughed way to long at the chase someone in the roundhouse joke, that was a golden one

[@jaysmith1408]

Golden, uhh….. 🍋

[@Pyrotrainthing]

Lawrie and Hyce collab. What chaos will they cause? Would be interesting to see a Lawrie explaining the history of the Rio Grande Southern with a Galloping Goose.

[@sawyerawr5783]

He'd be so confused looking at it and I just want to see if for that alone!

[@BandanRRChannel]

I am seriously impressed Brett came up with a plausible mechanical linkage system for a self-applying handbrake on the fly. Also, more limes!

[@MercenaryPen]

I suggest a backup in case the limes prove to be insufficient- squirtguns filled with lemon juice

[@sebastianschroeder6459]

The engineers worse nightmare... the yard foremen and the round house... it'll always keep you closer to Jimmy

[@sawyerawr5783]

"We have a K in captivity...and I think she's figured it out." if 346 ever gets to visit somewhere, I suspect she'll be really, really mad though, lol. I mean 20 already got to leave.

[@Hyce777]

346 won't know what to do. She's been running at the museum for 60+ years.

[@taliday56]

@@Hyce777 She will just go in circles or try too. Also can you say hi to 491 and 20 for me?

[@awildjared1396]

I'd love to see hyce and lawrie do an exchange program, hyce figuring out how to drive a locomotive from the wrong side of the cab, and lawrie learning how to use knuckle couplers.

[@pepperthekobold]

Obligatory Bri'ish correction: From Wiki: Bubble and squeak is a British dish made from cooked potatoes and cabbage, mixed together and fried. In the real world, it's basically the non-meat leftovers from Sunday Lunch all smashed together, extra potato added if necessary, reheated and served with the leftover gravy, watered down to make it stretch, plus whatever meat you happen to have handy.

[@blockstacker5614]

Here in America we grind up our leftovers and pour them down the drain.

[@clairekholin6935]

Either that, or make soup.

[@jackboerner1901]

5:28 Anti Rollback Pawls. Sometimes we call them Anti Rollback Dogs. Certified ride operator and nerd here typing.

[@jackboerner1901]

Another little fun fact. Some coasters feature an electro magnetic that rolls along a powered strip on the lift hill that keeps the pawls raised to keep NIMBYs quiet. If the rate of speed slows, the electro magnet drops the pawls.

[@Squid1562]

I want to know if Brett’s “ratchet brake” was actually a real thing but under a different name

[@matthewscarpetti1313]

Yeah me too

[@evil_me]

And here we go!

[@sambrown6426]

I've driven a traction engine, and it was a lot of fun. All you really need to do to drive them (provided your fireman is keeping the fire going enough) is make sure the clutch is engaged (Yes they have a clutch, it lets you spin the flywheel without moving the engine, and if you loop a belt over said flywheel, you can run a threshing machine or something), put the johnson bar in the corner, and open the throttle all the way. From there you only really need to worry about steering, and you need a ton of steering input to make the wheels turn remotely far. Their ride quality is also absolutely atrocious, and they're way to slow for their own good, the one I drove tops out at 2.4 mph, though apparently most British traction engines can do 5-6 mph.

[@IndianaNorthWestern]

I work with someone out of southern Michigan that has one of those massive chase ones and it can go about 10 mph but it's terrifying

[@sambrown6426]

@@IndianaNorthWestern Definitely sounds terrifying.

[@Dan_Gyros]

A Lawrie and Hyce collab would be low key legendary

[@danieleveritt4086]

The ffestiniog and maybe other railways in North Wales also had things called ratchet brakes used on gravity trains where the ratchet was used to set the amount of brake applied on the car using a handle a bit like a reverser/Johnson bar attached to the side of the waggon

[@DeanNickChase]

I was with Brett on the Louisiana trip and can confirm that he used that voice constantly

[@CMDRSweeper]

Leighton is real easy to bust in a lie... Brett however is a different story as he doesn't show the same cues. Jimmy is the middle of the pack if he can hold his "poker face" :D

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

Fun fact/expansion upon the Chaudron piece: Chaudron (because of it's former use as a volumetric measurement for them) is also British slang for very old fashion ore cars. For the record, a Chaudron's weight actually was somewhat subject to change over the years (because originally the railroads were taxed 'per Chauldron' and found a temporary loophole in it) but it comes out to 2.97 tons (5940lbs)

[@MachRacer4]

There were a bunch of wagons known as Chauldrons in early railways in the UK. Accurascale makes some in OO Gauge.

[@SkorjOlafsen]

Oh, because they carried 1 chauldron of coal. Neat.

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

Chauldron does kinda have the double meaning of referring to old fashion British ore cars (not nessisarly coal, but most commonly coal). Fun fact: back in the old days the railroads were taxed 'per Chauldron' and as a result a Chauldron grew from 1 ton flat to 2.97 tons before British authorities caught on.

[@OutbackCatgirl]

i want y'all to know i dreamed you put on a live show and i somehow managed to attend despite being in entirely the wrong country on entirely the wrong continent

[@OutbackCatgirl]

also, leighton was wearing a mystery citrus costume like some sort of sporting mascot

[@Hamthe110]

Bubbles and squeak (south wales version because areas of the uk can't do stuff the same) is basically your Sunday roast veg left overs chopped up mixed and sort of mashed and you then spread it out and pack it in a frying pan 7/16" ish thick and fry till browned on both sided and then serve with left over meat and ketchup or brown sauce or cranberry

[@madalheidis]

On the topic of ratchet brakes, I am part of a team working on something equipped with one. Or, it was, it needs restoring and the three-four different brakes it had are part of that.

[@c.j.benoit8662]

Bubble and Squeak is a kind of a British leftover pancake/hash brown thing made from the veggies of a Sunday roast.

[@jacebeleren9290]

Quick someone put the Ultra Instinct theme on Jimmy the Cog dodging the Mystery Citrus!

[@adammullarkey4996]

If anyone is wondering, "bubble and squeak" is basically whatever you have left over. It was created during extreme rationing in WW2 as a way to make maximum use of every bit of nutrition. In its modern form, it's usually made with potatoes and garden veg (carrots, peas, that sort of thing). Also, you forgot that most quintessential of British foods: fish and chips.

[@clairekholin6935]

14:20, the problem with that is that coal follows the laws of physics. . .

[@PowerTrain611]

Jimmy's roundhouse comment has me laughing harder than I should be. Limes well deserved.

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

I actually knew the second one, because I've heard of chaldron wagons in passing

[@inotsmarty5700]

goofy cogs ⚙️

[@fireutility21]

@3:19 (ha she was in a movie) I caught Leightons reference, "Cash for the merchandise, cash for the button hooks..."

[@Nareimooncatt]

Just watched another rail fan video and now I have a suggestion for a railroad to visit. The Bayside Canadian Railway. The ridiculousness of it sounds up your alley. Lol

[@SweetSunrising]

Immediately thought water boy the moment you guys started talking ‘cajun’ 😂

[@OfficialDenverRioGrandeWestern]

11:37 20 is limed for the 3rd time this season

[@CATOPPS]

5:05 I love marks scream

[@andrewframe8046]

11:33 That's the new "mystery citrus" soundbite.

[@dylanhackbarth6390]

I've noticed the tool hanging under 346's cab and having seen something similar in form outside of any context was wondering what that is.

[@ericbonanno5214]

To be fair, as a Pennsylvanian who lives near the Ohio state line we too make fun of Ohio. And they can actually come fight us. 🤣🤣

[@lynx8779]

I happen to be from a Cajun family. Nice job with the axcent😂

[@paulgilbert9346]

Bubble and squeak is mashed potatoes and cabbage mixed together and then fried. Delicious breakfast food!

[@southernwolfgaming]

As a south Carolinian I can say I would probably doe laughing of y'all came here and started talking like we do.

[@bluescrew3124]

Hooray Jimmy from the Cog (still hearing Jenny from the Block)

[@kylerkastner2808]

Very goofy, very entertaining. Made my day, lol.

[@GLENBR0]

50 % of the time I staring at 491's walshaerts valve gear

[@fairywolf7515]

Lawrie is planning a trip to the states next year I think he said in reply to a comment I made on one of his last videos wishing for an American version of him

[@nw611J]

Hey Hyce great video man hey sorry about the emails hope your doing well and I can’t wait to see more of those they are so good I want MOOORE with Moore ORRRRE LOL. 😊

[@project_toasty]

0:16 is way too relatable

[@fishbait6405]

Ben awhile great stuff as normal as "Normal" as you guys are. cheers

[@Lemonaitor]

Bubble and squeak is deep fried mashed potatoes and cabbage. the first way mum got me to eat cabbage as a child

[@stephaniehnotme]

@hyce , look up east Palestine NS chemical spill. THE MUSHROOM CLOUD WAS MASIVE!!! Imagine DV oil well in real life.

[@paveloleynikov4715]

It is pity that Brett's brake patent entry and Leyton's traction engine oddity were bulls*t.

[@zawadlttv]

when they go into a bar, they can spell. but when they get out of the bar, they cant anymore

[@specialfunnelstudios5523]

Please let them drive a hunslet quarry tank and how many times they would call it puny

[@Suppagappa]

3:20 I have a feeling that Erik wasn’t the only fruity person around that welding table!

[@Hyce777]

I mean Leighton is engaged to a lady so :P

[@Suppagappa]

@@Hyce777 There are more flavours on the rainbow ;)

[@Cosmic_Tortoise]

Bit out of the way to get to Marion, if that is indeed where you're headed later.

[@SeaKing61]

I'm British and my name is Laurie, I'm just the wrong Laurie, but I do know that Lawrie! I wanna play trains!

[@Foxymorris9236]

9:45 speaking of Ohio, I've been saying on KZbin about to deadly train derailment the erupted into flames, and some bright dummy thought it's leaking and I need to empty the derailed tank cars full of hazmat - flammable and empty it to the said fire

[@henningerhenningstone691]

Spoilers in the title are a bit meh for those of us who want to guess along :P But this one was so obvious, it didn't even need the spoiler 😂

[@drewbarker8504]

I wonder how many limes have been lost to the out. (I mean citrus oil IS a good grease cutter)

[@drewbarker8504]

Pit* (sorry autocorrect “corrects” correctly spelled words sometimes haha) l

[@alwaysbearded1]

Best way to learn obscure RR facts and have fun at the same time. Jimmy is good. How well does he play poker. In fact, it would be interesting to see 3/4 of an idiot play poker.

[@John73John]

I kind of wish the title hadn't given away the answer to the first one. Some of us like to play along at home.

[@trainsforrobert]

Petition to name the 20 oranges.

[@tnexus13]

Waves back from Blighty.

[@nashorn9745]

Some cog railway‘s don’t have an uphill brake so they have to add power to the motors first bevor releasing the brakes.

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

The modern stuff doesn't have this anymore as the rollback protection is handled by the computer now. Our new Hm4/4 units are setup to hold in place with the motors until both brake sets are released. If you somehow manage to move more than 20cm in the wrong direction, you get an emergency brake penalty. Swiss regulation book has a whole page on how it all should work if not using a mechanical system.

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

I just realised, 346's cab has the name "Robert W. Richardson" written on it?

[@Hyce777]

Yup! "Uncle Bob". He founded the Colorado railroad museum with Cornelius W. Hauck. Corny bought the 318 so his name is on 318. Bob bought 346 so his name is on 346.

[@NORTH_WESTERN]

8:25 chaldren

[@RailFanAthena]

how do indeed

[@overkilljoe0174]

bring eric back he makes this show funny

[@chrisgill7824]

Alabama has a town named Saint Florian pronounced Saint Florine like chlorine... It's not just Ohio.

[@jmcosmos]

You folks ab-so-LOOT-ly don''t read enough classic literature! Samuel Pepys mentions coal by the chauldron in the famous Diary, sometimes to say that he's buying it in quantities of ten chauldrons (1661), other times (1667) to complain of the high price of 23 _s._ per chauldron. The weight of a chauldron of coal varied over time, from a ton to a ton and a half, because it was a measure by volume rather than by weight.

[@erumaaro6060]

Why of-course, the brits measured their coal in cauldrons. Or was it coal-drums?

[@Dan_Gyros]

If you're gunna be near cleveland, I run an event venue with skyline views, so if u wanna record some songs or whatnot hit me up!

[@Hyce777]

Well shit! I appreciate the offer mate!

[@Dan_Gyros]

@@Hyce777 hell yeah anytime!

[@kkooiker]

I love this content dose it only come out on Sunday

[@Hyce777]

I've ended up releasing them on Sundays lately. Two more episodes this season.

[@thatonecaledonian812]

Oh Jimmy the cog, what is your wisdom

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

It's a good idea to play the accordion at a polka festival. It's a bad idea to play it anywhere else.

[@Hyce777]

how dare you the accordian is a staple of Cajun, German, and Croatian music... and probably more *get out*

[@thatonecaledonian812]

@@Hyce777 Mom! The idiots are fighting again!

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

@@Hyce777 we found the guy who didn't watch animaniacs as a kid!

[@Hyce777]

@@JamesPattersonGeepfan I did, I don't remember that clip

[@machinerygaming40]

Lol I’m starting to pick up on everyones tells.

[@sambrown6426]

Hey Leighton, was that crazy railroad crane that was owned by a logging railroad that you talked about in a previous 2 of these people are lying video actually real? Because if it is, I need to do some research on it.

[@leto1596]

I think he said it was real, but he told the story using the wrong name to fit the question card, which was "Alice the Goon"

[@sambrown6426]

@@leto1596 Ok.

[@lynx8779]

What do we need here?

[@kingbrunswick7374]

Being from/in Ohio, I can say at the moment we are not the biggest fan of the railroad

[@croom1278]

Where could I get myself a ES&D cup?

[@catfish552]

Try the store link in the description

[@croom1278]

@@catfish552 oh forgot to check there, thanks

[@traintraveler5413]

lemon

[@lightningwingdragon]

So now Tech Diff and 3/4 Idiots have mentioned the language of Polari. And yet the one gay guy is missing.

[@paulconsani5160]

After you get a chance to run a Huber do yourself a favor a and run something else as well, it’d be great if you didn’t end up with a poor opinion of traction engines!

[@Hyce777]

Ouch! lol

[@Smrf4997]

As a southerner I take the southern accent joke very seriously and it is offensive to me

[@andrewhill9568]

What happened to Archie Bunker Meathead look?

[@eagle_412]

What happened with ur latest video. Its telling me. Due to copyright of the SME this video is banned in your country.

[@jozefsamkosoucek2895]

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[@nickfritter]

Where at in ohio I'd like to come say hi

[@Hyce777]

Marion :)

[@jeffreyhallam5517]

Haha. You critique the literacy of 1920s United States and joke that we had learned to spell by then but I would like offer food for thought. The U.S. Constitution and particularly the bill of rights was written in a manner that the average American could and should be able to read and understand. Take a perusal through this document and I think you will find the implication that the “average American”’ spelling and reading comprehension would have been excellent. Once upon a time at least. But in fairness the potato famine, war with Mexico, Louisiana purchase, California Gold rush, some other world changing events that I know I’m forgetting but Jesus look at what I already listed, it would be weirder if America didn’t take a hit to it’s spelling and reading comprehension. …of course that doesn’t excuse the people of today who pretend they can’t read the second amendment.

[@catfish552]

The average American overall, or the average American who could vote and participate in political life at the time? Because those're two very different things.

[@jeffreyhallam5517]

@@catfish552 Hmmm. Good point. That is two very different things. Land owners could vote due to the known stake in the nation and the Land deed filling the role of an Identification card. I feel I can generally stand by my words due to early America being a merchant society and placing an emphasis on contract comprehension and thorough maintenance of accounting ledgers. I say with certainty that early America was far better educated than it is given credit for. This is evident in every colonial American town that can still be visited today. Skilled metallurgist, carpenters, tool makers, sailors, ship wrights, paper makers, tannery operators, etc were common place. These are skilled labor industries and in early America they were the rule not the exception.

[@randomtexan7654]

first

[@thestainmorephoenix8632]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_and_squeak Here is bubble and squeak