HYDRAULIC PORTA-POWER REPAIR (part 1)

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805ROADKING

805ROADKING

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@pamminers4010
@pamminers4010 4 жыл бұрын
This video was very useful in repairing my P59 porta power pump. Very well put together video and excellent detail. Thanks very much.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!!☺
@MalcOfLincoln
@MalcOfLincoln 8 жыл бұрын
Few years ago I bought one from a friend for £10...he got lots of stuff dirt cheap from a fire brigade auction. Used it a little but then sold it to my friend at the garage for the same money. Used it this year to push the tractor wheel rim on when I welded it. Still works great.
@Menditman2014
@Menditman2014 8 жыл бұрын
It's great you have managed to find the seals, I'll look forward to part 2, thanks.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!!☺
@alcopower5710
@alcopower5710 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Weaver. Excellent kit👍
@coolrides
@coolrides 8 жыл бұрын
It's cool to take things apart and figure how they work....good thing you found replacement parts! :) Jack
@grantw.whitwam9948
@grantw.whitwam9948 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, it gives me more courage to check things out, especially if their not working as it is.
@coolrides
@coolrides 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, Grant! Definitely based on the idea that there's not much to lose, and potentially a lot to gain. :) Jack
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy!! That's the only way you're gonna learn!!☺
@txsviking
@txsviking 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to know you can still get parts. That's a lot better pump that any Wing Wang made today.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've seen them Wing Wang pumps blow apart before!!☺
@DaddytechEnt
@DaddytechEnt 8 жыл бұрын
*HOLY COW! can't believe how much those washers cost. that's ridiculous. makes me appreciate my pora-power that much more. i have the 10,000 pound harbor freight one and bought the pulling ends so i can push or pull the dents and things out but i have to be careful because all my pushing elements are 10,000 pounds but the pulling ones are only 5,000 pounds but they still totally work*
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Be careful Jimbo!! I've seen a few of those cheap Chinese pumps blow apart and injure people before!!☺
@DaddytechEnt
@DaddytechEnt 8 жыл бұрын
had mine for 7 years now i think it is and used it on things well beyond the max limits and it's still together so i'm thinking i'm good but i never use anything harbor freight that i am expecting to last forever either so when ido use that it's very cautiously(normally)
@231flash
@231flash 8 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't complain on only getting 42 years out of it. I had one like it for years, had all the attachments , spreaders, pusher and pulling rams, it was well worn out and took it to a auction and still got good money for it. Stupid me sold it and picked up a new one and it only lasted a short time and started leaking.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Doh!!☺
@WillsGarage91
@WillsGarage91 8 жыл бұрын
Nice repair there Roadking! Can't wait for part 2!
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! We'll probably put up part 2 tomorrow!!☺
@creamofcardstv
@creamofcardstv 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sure doctor Roadking will have it up and running in no time :) Hope you find the parts.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote of confidence Mate!! We're already using it again!!☺
@kenfrazier616
@kenfrazier616 Жыл бұрын
excellent thank you for the two part repair tips
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 8 жыл бұрын
I bet the King can fix it ! Thumbs up man ..
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! We got it working better than new!!☺
@davessmallenginerevival2847
@davessmallenginerevival2847 8 жыл бұрын
I have one simular to yours that leaks. Now that I see how it's done I should fix it
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
That's all it was, those little seals!! I'm surprised mine wasn't leaking!!☺
@not2fast4u2c
@not2fast4u2c 8 жыл бұрын
Hope you can get the seals you need ..I read the comments and seen there are some parts places mentioned. I would clean and inspect the check valve & clean/ flush out all the parts
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Everything was clean as a whistle!! I just replaced them seals and it's better than new now!!☺
@MVP11489
@MVP11489 8 жыл бұрын
are there 2 check valves, or just one? I would think there would be one near the hose, to prevent pressure from coming back through, and a second one between the piston you took apart, and the resivoir. I would think that check valve would be leaking fluid back into the resivoir causing your issue. those seals you removed look like all they do is keep the fluid from from blowing past the piston under pressure.
@chevy6299
@chevy6299 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with you a gummed up check valve would do it.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Nah it was just them seals, it's working better than new now!!☺
@Vader1957
@Vader1957 8 жыл бұрын
I would check the check valve as well. If it won't hold the pressure, it could cause what you were seeing.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
It will hold pressure, I just couldn't make any!! Those new seals solved the problem!!☺
@super6954
@super6954 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Glad you found seals for it pretty easy. we have an old Dunlop high lift trolley jack here it must be from the 40's/50's and pretty rare. I can't find much about it online for pictures or anything. I need seals for that really as it leaks on the floor, but kinda scared to take it apart and mess it up completely if nothings available. My suspensions are it has leather seals that are goofy sizes and styles. The new made in China jacks aren't anywhere near as well built and don't lift so high, from what I've seen around. Like with your porta power it would be a sad day if it went in the scrap after all the money it's made and the years we've had it .
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! Yeah floor jacks are a little more involved but I'm sure you can find what you need!!☺
@tom7601
@tom7601 8 жыл бұрын
The seal on the release valve looks like a mini valve guide umbrella seal.
@JimsEquipmentShed
@JimsEquipmentShed 8 жыл бұрын
Nice when you can keep an old piece of gear alive, I have a chain come-a-long that is older than I am, Ive pulled it apart and cleaned it over the years, but other than that (And fixing the time I greased the clutch 25 years ago......long story) its working fine.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy!! Almost everything I have is old!! Every time I use something it brings back a memory from the 70's or of my Dad!!☺
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder whether Hein Werner's side trip into hydraulic excavators put them under. Many companies have tried to diversify into something that seemed like a good idea at the time, and went bankrupt.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Don't know!! For a Company that was that big and around for so long, there really isn't much information on it!!☺
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes 8 жыл бұрын
HEY BUDD, you mentioned that you werent going to do anything with the check valve- BUT, the tiniest little flake of crud or small chunk of rubber in the check valve will hold it open slightly and keep the pump from getting pressure as the oil will just freely flow back and forth...... So while youre waiting for the U-cup washers maybe take it apart and flush it both ways and clean and blow air thru the check valve to make sure it's good?
@movingforward6099
@movingforward6099 8 жыл бұрын
hey roadking! I rebuild graco airless sprayers and they have the same stile of packings on the piston and throat. there made of leather and teflon. have to soak them in oil for an hour or more before assembling. to adjust bring it to 0 play then give it a half to 3/4 turn. dont know if that will help but keep the vids coming i realy enjoy them! cheers!
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate!!☺
@locouk
@locouk 8 жыл бұрын
We used to soak rubber seals in mentholated spirits to clean and rejuvenate the rubber, I'm going back 25 years and we didn't have to do it often so I can't remember how long we had to soak them. I'm just thinking it might be a useful bit of info if you can't find replacement seals easily.
@frodehau
@frodehau 8 жыл бұрын
Do you mean methylated spirits? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_alcohol
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate!! We were able to find suitable replacements!!☺
@IntegraDIY
@IntegraDIY 8 жыл бұрын
Would probably be a good idea to take it more apart, soak it in gasoline over night, to get more built up gunk from inside of it out..
@huck01955
@huck01955 8 жыл бұрын
Cool I hope you can save the old girl
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's all it was, just those little piston seals!! Now it's better than new!!☺
@skycarl
@skycarl 8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised a manufacturer would use 5 rings or seals in an area where one made for it would work. Great tool either way. Bet it works fine when you are done RK...
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Carl!! We got it working, we were only able to put two seals in!! That is a factory set up, they call it a multi V pack seal!!☺
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 8 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if MVP11489 might be on to something too. I would think there should be 2 check valves, or at least a double valve. Anyway, I'm sure you'll get it straightened away. This is an interesting repair.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Reg!! Nah nothing wrong with the check valve, they're just ball bearings and springs!! I just had to replace those piston seals and now it's good for another 40 years!!☺
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 8 жыл бұрын
There you go then, well too, it is a Hein Werner after all ! I know that brand too,..there is no doubt at all they, like the older Ridgid plumber's and pipe fitter's tools, are the very best quality and built to do the job with very long life. Good ol' "Made In The U.S.A. ' quality,...like 'The Boss' signs's that title song.
@frodehau
@frodehau 8 жыл бұрын
If it suddenly failed, your check valves have failed. But the piston is pretty worn too. Broach the hole, and machine a new piston, or find something that is the right size. A valve stem from a huge diesel might be thick enough.
@leroywilliams8194
@leroywilliams8194 8 жыл бұрын
those washer should work the metal ring give them that shape and you add them as it wear so the brass nut doesn't bottom out you could probably just add a new one to what you have and keep using it
@queenofyeay
@queenofyeay 8 жыл бұрын
"These are almost like faucer washets" Brother, as old as that porta power is I'll just bet those seals are almost like faucer washets!
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard from you in a while Toes!!☺
@queenofyeay
@queenofyeay 8 жыл бұрын
805ROADKING Yeah, Buddy, been busy... but I'm still watchin! Gotta keep an eye on youse guys!
@rickcrabtree7903
@rickcrabtree7903 10 ай бұрын
I've got one that works but it only goes up so far and then stops
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan 8 жыл бұрын
What did you do for most of your working career, EJ? Good investigation. I dare say that you could get a rebuild kit for that since they were pretty standard and haven't changed much over the years.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
We owned a Body and Paint Shop in the mid 70's, painted Battleships, Subs and Aircraft Carriers in the 80's and owned a Trucking Co in the 90's!! Packed it all in, in 98 and been retired ever since!!☺
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan 8 жыл бұрын
Like most of us you have had a varied career. Good experiences.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy, when I worked at the Shipyard I was able to learn different trades from some of the best Craftsman in the world!!☺
@joetri1970
@joetri1970 8 жыл бұрын
that pump looks exactly like a hydraulic knock out cutter set made by greenlee even down to the thumb screw just red not green colored they make parts for them try seals for that if you cant find them for yours
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! We were able to get them, they seem to be pretty common!!☺
@ParadoxdesignsOrg
@ParadoxdesignsOrg 8 жыл бұрын
42 years sure ain't bad! when's the last time you bought something modern that lasted more than even a few years? lol
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
How true Mate!! I just bought a 300HS because of your video, something I can keep in the car!!☺
@ParadoxdesignsOrg
@ParadoxdesignsOrg 8 жыл бұрын
805ROADKING ahh man, thats a good camera! it also takes some amazing still shots. You'll be happy with it :)
@atcaleb
@atcaleb 8 жыл бұрын
If all else fails finding sealing parts call Rodger's Industrial in Bettendorf IA. If you mailed him a rubber part he will have a replacement. He warehouses thousands of seals of all types, and I have never been told no there. He is very honest and intelligent. Message me if you need more info Roadking, and I will try to help if you need. I have no involvement with Rodger, just sharing the info.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot Caleb!! I really appreciate your willingness to help!! I was able to pick up some seals and have it working now but thanks for the tip on Rodger's!! It sounds like a place that I might need in the future!!☺
@atcaleb
@atcaleb 8 жыл бұрын
Rodger still writes invoices with a pen and paper. Its a special place. Glad its workin, looking forward to part 2. Your welcome, its a community, and I like doing my part when I can.
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 8 жыл бұрын
Those porta-powers really come in handy, that's for sure.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy!! I have two of them but I don't know where I put the other one!! It's tough getting old!!☺
@spanermantim
@spanermantim 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting but mine leaks from the tools though.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised mine doesn't leak anywhere!!☺
@andyjones9996
@andyjones9996 8 жыл бұрын
The rubber washers are called v pack seals .
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
The place I got them from called the U Cup Seals!!☺
@baggd65
@baggd65 8 жыл бұрын
You might want to try McMaster Carr.
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen 8 жыл бұрын
nice job
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!!☺
@Mopardude
@Mopardude 8 жыл бұрын
You getting those from manufacturer or someone else?
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Someone else!! It's called the O-Ring store!!☺
@cheeto4493
@cheeto4493 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if it wasn't leaking out the plunger, that wasn't the problem. I would say check valve as well unless that release valve was not seating properly. Other than that, Could be the lack of paint ; --)
@dans_Learning_Curve
@dans_Learning_Curve 8 жыл бұрын
I agree. I'm thinking those rings kept the fluid inside. The pump may be metal on metal.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Nah it was just those seals that were the problem!! I'm surprised it wasn't leaking!!☺
@blueberry6613
@blueberry6613 8 жыл бұрын
Washers for the porta power, they look exactly like my pressure washer seals. I bet if you get the specs you could find them at a pressure washer repair joint. ok buddy!
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! We were able to find some!!☺
@BrucesShop
@BrucesShop 8 жыл бұрын
1975.!!!! I was just a 19 year old Fart Smeller. Oh no smart feller ya that's it. The washers look like pressure pump washers.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not that far behind ya Mate!!☺
@whistlindixiesmallengine2085
@whistlindixiesmallengine2085 8 жыл бұрын
love a good tool
@markthecraneman1076
@markthecraneman1076 8 жыл бұрын
Those seals are a multi vee pack seal for very high pressure ....i bet they are still availble.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy!!☺
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! You're right, I was able to find them!!☺
@baggd65
@baggd65 8 жыл бұрын
I guess I should have watched the whole video before commenting.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
That's cool Bud!! I appreciate you trying to help Me!!☺
@aleblanc3547
@aleblanc3547 8 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's the simplest things that last the longest...there's nothing like putting the hay where the sheep can get to it, you know?
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy!! That's all it was, just those little piston seals!!☺
@hobbit321a
@hobbit321a 8 жыл бұрын
here is a parts list and break down of one similar to yours possiably www.usjack.com/images/pdfs/10%20TON%20PORTA%20POWER%20KIT.pdf
@raymondjludka7001
@raymondjludka7001 8 жыл бұрын
H/Warner was the shit back in the day! What ever happened? (CHINA) 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
@aserta
@aserta 8 жыл бұрын
Before that, figure that the owners decided to sell it outside, they could've done it inside just as well. So equal share blame.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a shame!! I'd rather find an old tool at a flea market than buy some of that China crap!!☺
@aureliobriseno6579
@aureliobriseno6579 4 жыл бұрын
Pero quiero en español
@campermike8879
@campermike8879 8 жыл бұрын
It's lasted cause there are no China parts.
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy!!☺
@juancarlosgomezalejo5005
@juancarlosgomezalejo5005 3 жыл бұрын
Hola qu
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