HYDRAULIC PRESS VS RING MADE OF TITANIUM AND CARBON FIBER, WHICH IS STRONGER

Let's check with the help of a hydraulic press which ring is the strongest. Titanium, tungsten carbide, carbon fiber, steel

[@AcAbook]

Recommendation: hydraulic press vs hydraulic press

[@Thescribbley]

Surprisingly good idez

[@robloxrules4524]

We need that

[@raccongamefit8831]

Hidraulic press:Our battle will be legendary...

[@Dr_Warr]

No itll end the world

[@centauria9122]

The sheer pressure of those 2 things pushing against eachother would create a ⚫.

[@f4wnz132]

Fun fact: Tungsten rings are purposely given weak spots at 4 quadrants or 3 thirds, depending on size, so that if it gets stuck on your finger they can take it out. You can see how it shattered into 4 almost perfect quarters.

[@marcelo55869]

I wanted to see pure tungsten to see if it's ductile.

[@zimzimal8547]

@@marcelo55869 tungsten has extremely low ductility

[@billiewright3577]

I’m not questioning but how did you know that?

[@JimmyBeanz13]

I never even knew they made tungsten rings, we use it for the weight of balancing rotating parts in my industry.

[@f4wnz132]

@@billiewright3577 My jeweler told me. I have a tungsten wedding band.

[@prometheuszero9]

I remember first learning about the brittle nature of tungsten when learning how to weld with tungsten electrodes a decade ago. That was pretty annoying as a beginner, to have your electrode break and then have to go regrind the tungsten to a point while also trying to avoid breaking it while grinding it lol

[@uwu.-.5873]

Sounds hilariously frustrating

[@lasso79ify]

When I hear of tungsten, my tig welding days come to mind.

[@Grizzlox]

Yes, in general the harder something is, the more brittle it becomes

[@MartinMaat]

The tungsten electrodes used for welding are actually very soft. These are pure Tungsten (W) which has a very high melting point (3600 Celcius) which is important for an electrode that is supposed to last (its material is not added to the weld). The ring shown in the video is really tungsten carbide which is really hard. This is used for cutting as in drill bits.

[@ryananchors1967]

@@Grizzlox was about to say that. Obviously not always a linear trend, but generally it’s true.

[@admiralkymia]

These videos always make me feel like I should be wearing safety glasses while watching.

[@danielrobinson7872]

For anyone wondering as to why the soft brass shattered… brass becomes harder as it’s crystalline structure is crushed with pressure. It goes from soft and malleable to brittle and hard. Copper can do this as well but not to the same extent. Work hardening alloys are my favorites. Edit: My brain short circuited and I was saying bronze. I work with these metals on a semi-regular basis so I don't know what I was thinking. Sleep is important folks.

[@TheGodsrighthandman]

TBH, I expected what happened to the bronze to actually happen to the iron. Can only surmise that iron was forged, not cast.

[@Macabri_2k10]

It actually looked more like brass, brass and bronze often gets mixed up by people, bronze and brass are both copper alloys, bronze is a copper/tin and brass a copper/zinc alloy. Bronze typically has a darker hue than brass and the shattered pieces looked like unoxidized brass

[@johnnyboy3357]

If this guy press popular bicycle tube metals made to become bicycle frames, it be scandalous

[@jonny-b4954]

@@Macabri_2k10 It does almost look like brass. I remember first time I melted down some copper and zinc to make brass. Put zinc into the copper stupidly after copper melted so it bubbled and instantly vaporized ha and I didn't realize how much gas the zinc would put off (I think it was green/yellow gas?) and I didn't get to add my few percent tin so got pure brass instead. I'm really enjoying getting into making metals.

[@jarobryan307]

It could be a silican bronze instead of copper and tin because it is to bright to be regular bronze though it could most definitely be brass instead of bronze

[@samimas4343]

Would like to see live temperature change of each metal during deformation with a temperature camera.

[@GarageKing]

Thats a great idea, they could just point a heat gun at it as its getting compressed

[@enigsyoutube3742]

Haha don’t try this at home like everybody’s got a hydraulic press in their homes 😂😂😂

[@bleakmidwinter9481]

Who's here after the Titan implosion?

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

The one surprise to me was the tin. I alloy it with lead for bullet casting, so I know it's not particularly hard, but didn't realize it would become so plastic under extreme pressure. Very cool.

[@trespire]

And beautiful after plastic deformation.

[@bryanteger]

What was sweating out of the sides?

[@trespire]

@@bryanteger Blood an tears of whoever made it !

[@grahamshere]

@@bryanteger They squeezed the piss out of it.

[@grimfpv292]

@@bryanteger Good catch. I think it simply melted from the friction.

[@harrykingiii134]

I love your channel I just wish you would have a summary page with a list or chart of the end results of all the tests!!

[@boarderluki]

the carbon ring is a bike spacer, where the fibers are produced vertically and can hold a lot of pressure, horizontal they are rather weak

[@tankedwarthog6424]

That is what I thought to I just didn't know that it was a bike part

[@gregjones3660]

Yeah I just didn’t want to say anything…

[@antonioverdad5071]

@@gregjones3660 I won't say anything!

[@huiAPPOAJ]

why didn't frodo just compress the ring with hydraulic press so no one can put it on his finger?

[@gregjones3660]

Why didnt he just offer them a groove ring instead?

[@DanielLCarrier]

It was able to resize itself. It could probably reshape itself too.

[@karkosgiehex]

The Dark Lord Sauron... has a tie tack? Why the hell does Sauron need...? Oh, there has to be an ork stupid enough to deliver the news.

[@VanGoWanderlust]

3:47 is the best representation of what would have happened to that Titanic Sub

[@smsandel]

Not likely. The most likely scenario would’ve been separation of the titanium rings from the carbon fiber cylinder ends resulting from galvanic corrosion as well as multiple dive cycles where the compression coefficient difference between the two materials caused uneven pressure which by itself can also cause the two materials to come apart regardless of how well they were adhered together in manufacturing. Those rings are what the end caps (titanium hemispheres) attached to.

[@leptoceratops]

Those cracking noises were probably the last thing they heard 😬

[@thatchihuahua1848]

Elrond: The Ring cannot be destroyed, Gimli, son of Glóin, by any craft that we here possess. Gimli: Pulls out hydraulic press.

[@NeilWatkinsfromaccounting]

Far too few likes on this comment

[@cptsteele91]

Then it becomes the one tie pin to rule them all 😂

[@xanhthanhau8888]

The main question here is why he has the ring

[@Jadeddoxy]

💀

[@Loocas432]

i think the hydraulic press was also forged in the fires of mount doom that mush be the only reason why they were able to destroy it

[@colinrichards8423]

These test are brilliant, the understanding of the strengths and weakness of different types of materials. Awesome. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@aninnocentbystander119]

I’d love to see a heat map. As the materials bend and compress, they should produce heat. I’m curious if that heat would be concentrated at the failure points.

[@geckoo9190]

Well yes, it should work like that, like when some one bends a piece of metal, the bending point starts to get warmer

[@Duck_that_funny_channel]

yes it well but not enough to see on the heat map so sorry

[@rihasanatrofolo2472]

Everyone wants to see that, but no one does it

[@Seramics]

OceanGate CEO forgot to watch this

[@CAP198462]

“This ring cannot be destroyed by any craft that we here possess” Hydraulic press channel: 😆

[@rbenne6]

The tin crushing was pretty cool. I assume the liquid coming out was molten tin since that particular metal has a relatively low melting point.

[@konstantingeist3587]

Looks like carbon fiber is better than tungsten for submersibles, at least

[@LaurenceFletcher]

Well this is suddenly a very relevant video. Oceanview should have watched this vid first.

[@LuckySevenSamson]

Stainless: fractured. Titanium: "I refuse to break. Bend, sure. Break...?"

[@darksidempg]

No es tungsteno eso es cerámica de tungsteno

[@denniszhang9278]

the stainless fractured along the weld seam, whereas the titanium was probably cut from a monolithic rod. Hardly a fair test :)

[@JohnJones-cp4wh]

Need also to know the grade of the Titanium. Ditto the Stainless and Steel options,as this would affect the result

[@prettysoIdier]

The reason to get tungsten, is because it shatters. If your hand gets crushed, to the breaking point of the metal, tungsten will shatter while the other metals will continue to crush your finger even when the overall pressure is relieved.

[@kiwi9065]

Just get glass for the maximum brittleness

[@chiefkeef74]

That and tungsten carbide has a good weight feel to it that doesn't feel like it'll fly off. Then again mine has a carbon fibre inlay. Still a perfect wedding band

[@Darkk6969]

Yep, one of the reasons why I have tungsten carbide as my wedding band. Also, very scratch resistant.

[@maverickf22eagle94]

@@DevJonny I was wondering the same

[@zeddybuddy8619]

@@Darkk6969 simple tap on glass also can break the glsss..beware

[@markbaz4200]

They people from Ocean Gate needed to watch this video before making a submarine out of carbon fiber!

[@_anindith_]

Legends know that the carbon fibre ring is actually a spacer used in the top tube of MTB fork 😁👍🏽

[@destinyshand2049]

I saw a MASSIVE flaw in the legitimacy of the video, the One Ring cannot be crushed or broken by any means it MUST be melted in the fires of Mt. Doom in Mordor where it was forged

[@Myrius69]

The only explanation is that ring is fake af

[@Yupster2501]

One does not simply walk into Mordor.

[@andrewstoffel8031]

Yeah, and you can't fly on your travels there on an eagle for any part of the journey towards the mountain.

[@felixbakker5571]

I found this strangely satisfying to watch, thnx :). Was shocked to see the bronze one break so intensely!

[@yokaigypsy]

You made a custom Snapple cap at the end. Cool.

[@samwright199]

i wish ocean gate ceo checked with you about titan sub

[@Hoyt-pn3ky]

Tungsten went out with explosive force, seems like being one of(if not the most) dense metal you can hold in you hand without getting radiation sickness just causes a lot of force when broken. Even in the 50x slower than real time, those fragments were going extremely fast.

[@mmaaddict78]

It’s less about mass and more about the crystalline structure in the metal.

[@captainscurse8619]

That's because it's tungsten CARBIDE. If it's very pure tungsten it wouldn't shatter because carbon in large quantities makes materials brittle.

[@Anenome5]

It wasn't tungsten, it was tungsten carbide, a ceramic material that fractures. Tungsten by itself is a dense metal that would've deformed like iron.

[@unoriginalcopy9844]

no, it exploded because of the carbon

[@freedomofpeach9790]

@@unoriginalcopy9844 Carbide

[@sammorrissey9094]

Carbon fibre is strong to torsion, not compression, Tungsten (and especially the carbide alloy) is very hard but extremely non ductile making it brittle under compression, Titanium is as strong as steel when accounting for density, but not actually as strong hence the lower failure point. Hence why titanium/aluminium/magnesium are used in aviation and steel is used for buildings

[@nicolasmoreno9442]

The strongest steel alloys are a little bit stronger than the strongest titanium alloys. But the comparison here was not fair. We don't know the weight of the rings, nor their actual quality and if they are made from what they are supposed to; when can only take the author in good faith, which is not a reliable thing to do. Last but not least; Titanium is very expensive because its refining process is quite conplicated, its welding requires an oxygen free environment. That's why is not used in everyday applications, not because steel is stronger. Aviation, high end automobile industries and other highly specialised applications, like cutlery for elite climbers, need lightness and strength, and thus can afford to spend more. In day to day applications it is impossible to distinguish titanium and steel in terms of "strength" and durability, but you would notice it's ~50% lightness and its corrosion resistance. And its incredible increase in price tag😂

[@gavinsmith9022]

They should of done this test with the titan hull, even though the carbon fibre was stronger than i thought it was gonna be.

[@NclogicLMAO]

Fun fact: If it was a small tungsten cube, it would need over 100,000 kg of force just to even start flattening it

[@AntOfOushu123]

and for carbon fiber, it took over 500k kg of force

[@twintyara6330]

Not fun though

[@Alex-kr7zr]

@@twintyara6330 Fun is in the eye of the beholder.

[@CyborgGerbil]

Well, I wasn’t expecting the bronze to shatter! 😳 Made me jump a little.

[@deanwright9167]

The lost titanic submersible was made of carbon fiber

[@HandyHanderson]

That's a neat looking ashtray at the end there.

[@Bhuvan_MS]

5:38 listen to that sound carefully, it sounds similar to gta mission failed sound.

[@Coolcottonwood08]

"The ring can not be destroyed by any weapon we here possess..... it can only be undone by the fires from which it came from." 😱☠️

[@RuralTowner]

If it was made using a press it can be destroyed in one...

[@effervescentrelief]

My interpretation - the Titan submersible failed due to the carbon fiber hull and the outside pressure.

[@GWRus77]

Enjoy the channel and I have been searching other videos but havent found it yet. What is the song you use in the middle of this video, starts around 6 minutes, and other videos?

[@REACHJ]

Ocean Gate Titan brought me here. Tragic

[@zenomalley]

Probably getting a lot of traffic this past month 😂

[@onsec]

I need a table at the end for better comparison, if you could provide it would be much appreciated, like your videos and your concept of experimentation

[@D-A-1776]

And that's why you use steel on submersibles not carbon fiber

[@MrBarsanett]

@10:22 you can see the tin starting to literally sweat under pressure lol 😆🤣

[@auralynn3862]

Yeah wtf?

[@despicableone4495]

You would too

[@ekalb7789]

Would love to see the deformations from the view of a thermal camera

[@kirbyjohnson3756]

Anyone else here after that sub imploded exploring the titanic June 23, ya it went like that but faster

[@Arjun-406.]

That hydrolic machine sound like suspance full background music 😂😮

[@zurreal9783]

Sauron is going to be so pissed when he finds out about this video

[@cpomplun]

If you do this test again, I'd like to know the temperature of the metal when you exert pressure on the item.

[@lordplebius483]

Wow, an actually useful hydrologic press video

[@uponprometheanshores]

What grade titanium? What kind of wood? These things make a huge difference.

[@gtrslayer1]

Awesome video, I want challange you to test rock samples. Get yourself some rock cores and put them versus your press. Rock, unlike metal is very resistant to compressive forces, and weak to tensile forces, (metals are strong vs tensile loads). There is a growing rock engineering science around the world, and we all would highly appreciate to see different rocks being loaded like this. Also I want to invite you to share stress units being displayed in your press, and not the force, since most of the engineering community work with stress when it comes to loading and deformation.

[@cajovaresto]

no wonder the titan imploded.... this shows how the carbon is really weak on this scenarios

[@simplebioscillc1690]

Now we know what's best for aircrafts and what's best for armored vehicles. Thank you.

[@thecheechoftheages]

Id like to see these comparisons done with all the rings having the same dimensions

[@misfitfootprints2103]

I would like to see you do a volume density test on the bars before and after. It appears that they compress disproportionately greater length wise to the expansion to their circumference. You could do this by dropping the initial bar into a measured full glass of water, allowing it to overflow and see if there's a difference in final amount when doing the same thing once its compressed. Otherwise thanks for making these videos. Can you please also do a compression test on Beskar. Cheers 😁

[@vincentlevarrick6557]

I think you've misunderstood some physics somewhere along the way. *The mass is constant* . There has been no net loss nor gain of substance through this process (with the exception of those brittle materials that shattered). What has occurred is a change of *volume* (size and shape, thus contributing to how much space it physically occupies). I believe you're thinking of a charge in *density* . Density is mass per unit volume.

[@misfitfootprints2103]

@@vincentlevarrick6557 you're right, I meant density. I've edited my initial comment now.

[@chamarees]

I ain't a genius but you three are legends

[@jpolowin0]

@@misfitfootprints2103 I wouldn't expect there to be a change in density through a process like this unless either (1) the original material was porous on some level, containing voids that were compressed out of existence; or (2) the material changed into a different crystalline phase, so its atoms packed more closely together. It's not impossible for the latter to happen with pressure, but it would depend on the material, and I don't think these pressures would be enough. Tin famously has two crystal phases that are easily accessible at "normal" temperatures, but it's clear that the sample used here is the higher-density malleable one from the get-go. Pure copper appears to have only one crystal structure, ditto aluminum. Iron has a couple of different crystal forms depending on temperature and pressure, but the pressures required to have an effect are extremely high - on the order of 10 GPa (about 100,000 atm). The press would create pressures orders of magnitude lower than that, especially since the ingots were being compressed along one direction but open on their sides.

[@longsteinpufferbatch4949]

@@jpolowin0 Lots of good info typed here 🙏 thanks for writing that

[@greensky01]

Forget how strong those rings and cylinders are. What I really want to know is what is the piston that compresses them made up of and under what force it breaks!

[@peterkropotkin6224]

I won't lie. Hearing the carbon fiber ring crack (3:56) made me wince 😬

[@shutyourlipsbuddy8346]

My mother had 2 titanium screw put in her back for a fusion, yet they both broke but this is still baffling to me. I wish there was something I could do but trial & error as they say. The price of taking a chance is quite high. Thankful to this day she can still walk & it was years of pain to get where she is today. Random but I wanted to see how the titanium reacted, so thank you for this video!

[@loripeters3133]

omg! that tin almost got flattened! loved it 😊! ever think about trying that unobtanium? not sure if I spelled that right.

[@realbrickbread]

How is he supposed to get unoptanium if it is, like the name says, unobtainable?

[@loripeters3133]

@@realbrickbread you’re so punny 😁

[@realbrickbread]

@@loripeters3133 bruh

[@kusisava]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n53ElqyNpJ5kqNU

[@zthecat]

Class act troll, or just not very smart? The world may never know

[@Soulsphere001]

It might be better to conduct these tests by weight rather than size, since I assume that weight is what is generally more important than the size of the object. Or perhaps just factor the weight into your calculations.

[@heavymetal9749]

OceanGate should've thinked twice before building their own subs out of a millions worth of carbon fiber

[@patrickwinther]

Finally know what I really want for Christmas 🤩

[@liamstrain]

Would be interesting to see those material by similar weight - not just volume.

[@oldfrend]

yup. titanium has twice the strength to weight ratio of steel, but also half the density. so the same mass should be twice as strong.

[@appa609]

depends how the size is scaled. If the major diameter of the ring is kept constant while thickness varies, then the lighter materials get ridiculously buffed. Bending strength scales as the cube of section depth.

[@lochlinrecht1427]

Can you do this test again with identically shaped and sized rings? I know you can still kind of get the idea but I feel like the results might be a little different.

[@martinb.770]

Just what i thought. Either same shape, section cut or same weight, for comparable results.

[@twenty3715]

I insta liked the video as soon as I saw the one ring!

[@angargoy7181]

*Very interesting test and see the real deformation of these materials and breakage is entertaining video.*

[@ingannoceanstryder973]

So all Frodo needed to destroy the one ring was a hydraulic press

[@Maksu_]

Why am i watching this?💀

[@m.b.82]

Because you are

[@vincentlevarrick6557]

Because it's mad cool.

[@bradentheman1373]

i’m on the toilet ina restaurant and it stinks like hell and i’m watching this because i have explosive diherea

[@Kspice9000]

All other metals "we are stronk" Tin "haha, Im playdough."

[@estelja]

Was that pure titanium or a common alloy like 3/2.5 (typical sports Ti tubing) or 6/4 (typical machined Ti parts)?

[@theastonishingworld7986]

I thought we needed Mount Doom to destroy the ring.

[@SouheilElHageHammoud]

I know of stronger materials, better fitted for deep dives

[@mck0027]

At first, it was "One ring to rule them all..." Now it's "One paperclip to rule them all..."

[@Callabrator]

That perfect titanium fold tho 😍

[@ericjohnson6105]

Didn't expect stainless steel to beat the titanium ring, there goes my hope for an Abyss wedding band. Also didn't expect copper to put up that much of a fight, i expected it to squish like clay.

[@kunjukunjunil1481]

Titanium is no way stronger than steel but it's lighter .

[@karlgustav5490]

it's not hardened steel, and it have a very low carbon, something like 316l , 420 or 304 stainless steel. it react like iron. do that it with a hardened 1090 high carbon steel, or W2 or D2, you will have a really different result :) and btw, steel didnt beat it. depend what you are looking for. make a knife with titanium, or tungsten, both of them will make shit knife. all is about using the good material for the good thing

[@TheMaxxyM19]

That’s why old cars made of steel take no damage but hurt the driver. where as new ones with more titanium an aluminum protect the drive more because they absorb more of the impact

[@dsch1znit]

@@TheMaxxyM19 Old cars made of steal get completely crushed/destroyed in accidents. Cars with proper crumple zones, no matter what material they are made out of, protect the driver more. The design is more important than the material. I remember popular mechanics testing the theory that old cars were somehow safer due to being all metal and large. Here's a video showing how old cars get completely demolished in accidents while the new car slows the impact, utilizing crumple zones. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXOZoJich7CKo7s

[@InformerMaz]

@@dsch1znit Not always, depends on the accident honestly.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

5:54 Tungsten Carbide is brittle

[@captainscurse8619]

Yeah because carbon in large quantities makes things brittle. I guess he rigged this to make it not be #1.

[@mels9485]

Огромное спасибо за труд !!!

[@swiftdasher]

I didn't expect the bronze to be more resistant to compression than the iron, really interesting.

[@PositiveRateAv]

Damn you could stand on the stainless steel one without it bending or breaking

[@PositiveRateAv]

Also the titanium one

[@zlac]

But your girlfriend couldn't!

[@soul-om4id]

@@zlac lolz

[@beersandbeltspodcast3725]

I have a tungsten wedding band and I remembered them saying they have built in fracture points in case it needs to be broken off.

[@koksionglee7978]

Tungsten carbide... so hard, that it is brittle. Nice video!

[@caseyreimerchwk]

Love the T2 music in the background

[@merrytv1963]

We all know that the one Ring 💍 to rule them all can't be destroyed right 😊

[@remora_44]

yes, yes it can be destroyed

[@johnwood9504]

If you look closely at the nameplate of the press you will notice it is made by a division of Mt. Doom Industries, Inc.

[@GarageKing]

You know it !!!!

[@AGERES_SDF]

The tin made a bowl for bronze😂

[@thecountofmontecristo.4542]

"Do not repeat at home" Oh man!!!!!

[@abdulkadir1024]

do you have a spreadsheet with the results? and also did you measure the deformation?

[@maximeb190]

Did water actually get squeezed out of that tin?!

[@markgearing]

Could’ve been worse. Could’ve been baked beans.

[@LPM147]

Lord Elrond: The ring must be destroyed. Gimli: Well, what are we waiting for!? (Hauls in a hydraulic press).

[@DonWoodsyt]

I love how even though the tungsten shattered it still beat all of the other rings. Tungsten is my favorite metal!

[@funnyyellowdog8833]

Tungsten carbide is a ceramic, consisting of W and C in a 1:1 ratio. While tungsten is already hard as glass, WC is as hard as Sapphire. Crazy stuff.

[@hugovinicius6874]

Nice work!!!👏👏👏

[@unclebrave9020]

What material is the hydraulic press made of? I'm surprised that with such high pressure the press doesn't break and there's no damage.

[@divyangverma9880]

Mostly made of steel nical and titanium alloys.

[@UTUBE3JC]

Adamantium. Just kidding I think stainless steel

[@ianmocast7425]

What material is the hydraulic press made of?

[@SithLord2066]

it's made of hydraulium.

[@Andrew_Sparrow]

Butter

[@quailypoes]

The tin was especially cool looking!

[@greatsol2444]

How did you pick up the aluminum bar right away? Was it not hot?

[@joemo9145]

Tin = Ashtrays to sell Lol 😂

[@welchianachi7707]

Tungsten carbide is extremely hard but brittle ceramic, tossing ring made from it into the ground will make it shattered. Tungsten metal ring in other hand is a way more superior.

[@g0m99]

Tungsten carbide is superior because it shatters instead of deforming. It is also extremely cheap, so if it shatters buy a new one.

[@nibilissilibin9141]

I'd like to see you team up with a smith and test one material at different tempers, hardens, and heat treatments.

[@fismedgt]

Interesting experiment, it would be very good to include a table of final values for each cycle and thus be able to fix the ideas of the reader.