Why Steven Universe Future is a bad show

[@Hydroshott]

Hey, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. this is my only video that's done this well so if you could check out my channel if you enjoyed that would mean the world to me :)

[@Hydroshott]

Whoops

[@BenDaresAll]

@@Hydroshott Yeah, the Volleyball two Pearls ep was significant and answers Steven's problem, in a way.

[@Dxuser5]

@@BenDaresAll Volleyball doesnt have any major appearances after that. The only time she appears after episode 4 is in "Everything is fine" and even then it's at the green house. So hydro kinda had the right to skip that.

[@BenDaresAll]

@@Dxuser5 Hydro labelled other eps as filler but the Volleyball ep is an big step change, even if it's for another character. At the very least, Hydro should have acknowledged it.

[@Dxuser5]

@@BenDaresAll yeah but... nothing really changes

[@junikbelmonte9527]

Let me point out that we had an episode in season 1 where steven uncontrollably changes his age based on his mindset. Guess that answers the beard growth with Jasper

[@NeatNat]

Yes, that is correct. Finally someone pointed it out.

[@Saintphish]

When I first saw that episode I almost lost it, cause I almost witnessed a child dying

[@buckwheatbuckwheat3550]

Oh yeah! Thanks for this

[@marcelineabadeer8271]

@Poopyhead facts ong 😭

[@-PIXELATED-]

@@Saintphish (almost every episode of steven universe)

[@SeanAlegator]

To be honest, White's crying made me laugh so hard because she murdered trillions of life forms and felt such sorrow for Steven. Edit August 22, 2024: OMG thank u all for 10k likes. This is the most that I've gotten for one comment.

[@catsvr4729]

Wait when was it revealed she killed many-

[@SeanAlegator]

@@catsvr4729 it was explained in Now We're Falling Apart that colonizing or invading planets kills planets. And also there's a presentation in Your Mother and Mine of how many planets White colonized.

[@catsvr4729]

@@SeanAlegator oh yeah I can’t believe I forgot about that-

[@oefest5252]

@@catsvr4729 I will say it again, this show throws so much crap your way that you start to think about it, then it throws this drama arc, then you forget all that you were thinking about and start thinking about the arc

[@catsvr4729]

@@oefest5252 what the-

[@GC-Shadow1327]

The only thing I wanted after the movie was Steven and Pink finally having a direct heart to heart talk in person somehow

[@Hydroshott]

I think that was an alternate scene in the movie that was changed

[@sobersplash6172]

Hydroshot I honestly hope not, one of the better things that they did was keeping Rose dead

[@wzardkelly4452]

Me to in future when he got back to normal or maybe while being a kaiju he could maybe had talked to her or rose and this time from the heart and not fake

[@sobersplash6172]

Sardonicus this, like half of Rose’s whole point as a character is that she doesn’t get to come back and fix everything, everyone else has to deal with it on their own

[@ivamoore6040]

@Sardonicus f up with me😍😍😍

[@isaacfreeman1]

I related a lot to Steven this season. I helped raise my siblings, went to war, and was lost when all was said and done. I felt if I wasn't useful to anyone, I was a waste of life. From the beginning of the season, I recognized what he was going through. The desire for a semblance of normality with others you love, without endless shame. The sadness circlejerk at the end was peak awful, though. I didn't enjoy the message left for anyone like him.

[@Freak977]

but it is steven universe, if it was any other show, then ok, ita the purpose of the show, but is a continuation of the damn steven universe

[@josephcienfuegos5016]

So you’re saying you related to the series, the way Steven felt from the beginning till the end, but you’re saying you didn’t like the ending right? I think the show did an amazing job at closing Steven Universe’s universe. Steven Universe Future was my favorite season, more than the first five Steven Universe, even though the beginning felt like filler I’m pretty sure that for someone who has gone through a similar experience would understand the need for those moments in the beginning. I honestly liked the ending, don’t get me wrong, saying a hug fixes everything is wrong, but they didn’t try to say that, the hug was just a representation of their love for him, he felt like they didn’t need him anymore, and he felt that if he was useless then he had no purpose, and he thought of himself as a monster for not being able to cope with his trauma, but when they hugged, it screamed at him saying, “we love you unconditionally” that didn’t fix anything though, afterwards he started going to therapy, and went to go find himself. Even though I liked the ending, I still believe though that we have our own right to like or dislike the series, but we gotta remember that it’s not about us, this is what Rebecca Sugar wanted, and it’s her show, so we should be thankful and not criticize her.

[@josephcienfuegos5016]

The last things I say on my last comment were for the creator of the video, you never spoke bad of the show, I’m sorry for implying you did

[@Deltatraveler23]

​@@josephcienfuegos5016the main problem with Steven universe future is that the writing was significantly wrose than both the movie and the other seasons like i get it,you want people to learn about mental health but I'm you can't do that if your rushing the plot,making both the lesson and the series garbage..i generally love Steven universe but this was embarrassing...even SONIC 06 had better writing that this show and that game came out in two thousand and six🤦i would at least ended the series with a cliffhanger rather than a badly written show

[@w4terb0i25]

The overarching plot is Steven slowly losing his sanity and going insane because he doesn't talk about his emotions.

[@SkyLightKey]

Yep its clear thes characters act like this becaus to theme its just one if Stevens silly lssues and Steven Gießen WTF

[@bla_nkyt4978]

@@SkyLightKeytbh still even if he’s not supposed to be silly and everyone’s knows that IT STILL SUCKS it was hella boring everyone is so emotional over dumb things and they barely mention the plot of him losing sanity since they keep switching up why he is going insane. It was also hella cringey

[@Uppy21]

So, it's like Joker/Cruella. 😐

[@lodgimoss]

@@SkyLightKey ‘stevens *silly* issues’ ayo dont call someones emotions silly, emotions are emotions. i know stevens a fictional character but people can actually relate to his emotions

[@williamzinedineh]

@@bla_nkyt4978 switching up? it's not just one reason! it's all of them combined! are you serious right now?

[@sadie1368]

Steven: Having a mental breakdown Garnet: 👁 👁 👁 👄

[@kingpeedorah]

Lego Indiana Jones 2

[@YourLocalMagical_Girl]

true

[@hobomike6935]

steven was having a mental breakdown in every episode that wasn't a flashback though

[@laiqavokeel3993]

Ah WTF

[@laiqavokeel3993]

P

[@greendecepticon6148]

As a whole I fell like spinel is meant to be a one time character for the movie and future shows that.

[@piretiris8223]

She shouldn't have been canon in the show

[@greendecepticon6148]

@@piretiris8223 a lot of characters shouldn't have been. This whole diamond and homeworld stuff shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.

[@piretiris8223]

Only in the movie

[@greendecepticon6148]

@@piretiris8223 still a lot of characters shouldn't been a thing at all as well as the lore. People are going to be interested in those things so if your not not going to explore those interesting things and characters don't put it in your story at all.

[@asbestocess]

Blazingblue Dimensional animations ???

[@wazszn4254]

I don't know man, alot of the problems you see in this aren't really problems, they're really just irks I guess. For example, steven growing a beard is kind of directly tied to his he feels mentally. In one episode back, his body changed because of how he felt how old he was. He felt he was growing during his training with jasper, that's most likely why he started to look older. And him "shaving" is due to him reverting back to his younger self because he's shouldering yet again, alot of guilt. I just rewatched the entire show, it's pretty easy to catch on to alot of things when you remember it like the back of your hand.

[@louisb.1443]

Bro it's his opinion for god sake. So shush

[@thetrios10]

​@@louisb.1443Their just explaining about how he was wrong? 😭

[@beingbored7617]

​@@louisb.1443Jesus we need to realize when there's a difference between being wrong and an opinion

[@alexplayz_002]

@@beingbored7617 FOR REALL

[@timberrobles7752]

Yeah! And the “he randomly projected his dream on the TV!? Random new power bad” like its the combination of 2 different concepts! 1) gems can alter TV signals, we see that with lapis in S1 and peridot in S2. We even see a similarity in the diamond fight/garnets wedding where steven like projected into the gem state or wtvr and said “we’re family” 2)Stevens mental state affects his powers. From when he felt old and he became old, when greg lied about his leg healing and steven was no longer confident and then couldn’t heal for a time. So when you combine those, it means bad feelings get projected onto the tv! Hell even in the og show pearl projected her dreams into a hologram! It takes remembering the bare minimum of the show to understand that lmao

[@pearldab7781]

The handling of Jasper makes me so mad. She got all this buildup outside the show in interviews as a tragic, traumatized figure, then she just gets stuck as the show’s punching bag.

[@tammat705]

Yeah

[@ifiwerearichman-yabadiba]

Basically, she's the person other characters vent their anger out on (like Lapis or Steven) and that's sad

[@greendecepticon6148]

Spinel is one of my favorite gems too. I makes me wonder if she's not fully recovered and she's on blues happy clouds which fans joke is drugs

[@nekopiitou]

Yeah Spinel is my favorite and thinking about that makes me sad :(

[@barryb.benson9985]

Question for Honeybee News, what did you do with Stevens electric toothbrush

[@ivamoore6040]

@@nekopiitou f me up... NOWW

[@ivamoore6040]

@@nekopiitou just a joke...

[@nekopiitou]

@spinel :'0 🥺💕

[@spiderplayz3003]

Pov : steven universe future doesnt have a plot, it just shows what happened after he saved the world. He helped everyone but no one bothered to help him.

[@mayphan9779]

*all around me are familiar faces.*

[@spiderplayz3003]

@@mayphan9779 huh😂

[@spiderplayz3003]

@@benlambert2561 yep

[@ladylynx9891]

THANK YOU. People claim they watched SUF but they don't understand this VERY SIMPLE AND CLEAR concept, and then proceed to blame the show and its makers.

[@notian3324]

Can’t agree more, This show is pretty much an interlude. I feel like this video is a little petty. The way the show is explained by him seems heavily in bad faith.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

The best use of filler episodes ever. It's so cool that the theme of this is that Steven is meant to save everyone, and then realizes that the happily ever after never really came. He repressed all of this build up of trauma and saving he alone had to do for everyone around him just because he was unlucky enough to have his mothers gem. She wasn't bad either, it's just frustrating that he has to deal with what she started, and had to be there in it's core from start to finish instead of being a human kid who enjoyed life..hence why he goes to college at the end.

[@anthonyconnors3235]

Steven's proposal to Connie seemed like a desperate attempt to prevent Connie form leaving him. He did not think about how a life changing decision like that could affect her future, and I think that shows how broken on the inside Steven was.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

I hated how Steven treated Connie in Future and he never apologises for it or acknowledges he mistreated her. *"I CANNOT BE AROUND YOU RIGHT NOW!!!"* - is toxic as hell.

[@dreamt0wn739]

@@PlanetZoidstar simply putting my opinion, I disagree. He’s sacrificed himself for Connie and her response was to make him feel bad and steal Lion. He needed help, she didn’t, and whenever she got upset, he felt bad. She was pretty awful to him, actually. Maybe I’m biased, but he shouldn’t apologize for not being mentally okay when he’s been through so much trauma AND he had to fix other people’s problems 24/7 from a young age. I don’t think I should apologize when I have breakdowns, so he shouldn’t either.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@dreamt0wn739 Not being mentally okay is no excuse for treating someone horribly. That is a toxic mindset that can be used to excuse abuse. But I agree in that instance you gave Connie was in the wrong. Even if the show refuses to acknowledge it.

[@dreamt0wn739]

@@PlanetZoidstar thing is, he didn’t treat anyone horribly. He needed support, he was confused, he didn’t understand that he probably just needed the extra care, and tried to push people away so they didn’t help him. He was in a really bad state of confusion and stress, so I believe he was not wrong for ‘being toxic’ And honestly, more often than not, I see any human emotions that people don’t want to deal with whether they’re anger, sadness, grief, depression, anxious, or any other ‘negative’ emotions or behaviors mislabeled as toxic. If someone’s angry, and someone else doesn’t agree with why they’re angry, they’re toxic. If someone needs any emotional accommodations, toxic. Idk, it’s not a fair label. I know the difference between abuse and not being nice to someone, and that’s on having gone through mental abuse, physical abuse, and other stuff. That’s just my opinion based on my experiences.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@dreamt0wn739 Thing is, Steven did mistreat Connie in Future. He tried to pressure her into marrying him out of the blue, and when he didn't get the answer he felt entitled to he threw a pity party and Garnet had to comfort him. That's toxic entitled behaviour to expect the person you care about will just say "yes" and then having a hissy fit when they say "no". Then when she shows up and is clearly worried that he's having a meltdown, he screams in her face for her to leave. I've had emotional breakdowns before but I never let that make me scream in the faces of the people I care about and care about me. The fact Steven never apologises for that is especially toxic and it's never brought up again. It's okay to be angry, but it's not okay to take that anger out on other people. You are allowed to have moments of weakness, vulnerability and stress, but the moment you start taking it out on the people around you, you're the problem. It doesn't help that this all started when Steven tried to pressure Connie into marrying him and her turning him down is part of why he breaks down later at the hospital. I am sorry that you've had to deal with similarly stressful and anxious times before, but it seems you're just trying to justify that it's okay to use that as an excuse to hurt people. That you are not ultimately responsible for how you process your problems or who you lash out at because of them. You take issue with Connie feeling betrayed and leaving, but when it's Steven who is feeling hurt, suddenly he's innocent in all of this. Connie never meant to hurt Steven by rejecting his proposal, she was 14 and clearly far too young for such a commitment. Depending on where Beach City is, Steven was likely too young, and you need parental consent regardless. It was a dumb idea born from his selfish entitlement and fear of her going away, he wanted to shackle himself to Connie at all times and take away her right to privacy. That is what makes his meltdown later toxic.

[@sceplecture2382]

I just think this is a season for the people who want more of the characters living life. This isnt a season for the people who want big over arching plot points.

[@zannis5441]

We couldn’t have both apparently

[@Ajepeajlwwjdmaoweeow]

Yeah, they TRIED to pull some plot ideas like introducing new villains, that, however, meant less than a grass blade. They could just *not* do so if what you said was the case, but they did. And it turned out so attrocious.

[@qazplm3845]

@@Ajepeajlwwjdmaoweeow I don’t think those villains were supposed to be more than a grass blade. SUF just isn’t told in the typical hero vs villain epic story. It’s rather a more realistic slice of life, which emulates how the beginning of the series was like. We already had our great story in the original series, and Rebecca Sugar said herself that they told the story that they wanted to tell. SUF isn’t a SU season 6, it’s a slice of life spin off that shows a different side to the world of SU.

[@smiles5054]

Steven: **stabs greg** Greg: *im proud of you*

[@KokaKola633]

LMAO

[@someonestolemytoast4428]

XD

[@afro_black5216]

LMFAO

[@Julian_2553]

Thank you for this comment

[@cry_stalll]

wait what when did this happen

[@aylenharjitos9646]

18:52 nah, hug can help someone. Its not going to cure people 100% but hugs can give some happy and safe feelings for a moment, that's more than enough for me

[@ahmedzahranJP]

Yes you have a point, But it is more like a power of friendship because White Diamond clearly states that the pink monster is no longer Steven, But like any mindless beast in each cartoon/movies. But it would be more logical for white Diamond to say, Steven is still there/conscious, But he's a mindless beast/corrupted gem. But that is all I got to make it hype/good

[@isaacologyYT]

and that's why i love the hug thing because the whole corrupted steven thing is just a massive mental breakdown from all the built up stress from his life and the hug doesn't cure him 100% it just helps him calm down and realize that he ISNT okay. he even mentions how he goes to therapy in the final episode

[@PabloEmanuel96]

I actually loved it, because what else can people do to help you when you're having that big of a meltdown, greg is not able to go back and give steven a childhood, he can only hug him and show support until steven processes that trauma. And the same goes for the diamonds, connie and the gems

[@Nancy_lol5]

Is true tho tbh my mom hugged me when I was crying

[@whhomp]

the best character here was lion. no one will ever change my opinion. nothing will change my opinion lion is the best

[@five2019]

Yes

[@Waffle_404]

You words are so true

[@loveprints6]

agreed

[@x_itzliana_x4324]

y e s

[@tonykhang1984]

true

[@fishoutofwater3670]

Tbh steven universe future gave me a "I'm not mad, just disappointed" feeling

[@Layra1488]

Why Tho same

[@queenperrytheplatypus458]

I think we all put SU on such a high pedestal we missed the major mistakes

[@shannonhewins]

@@queenperrytheplatypus458 do you mean,, pedestal?

[@queenperrytheplatypus458]

Sh H Yep. Whoops. Autocorrect

[@osets2117]

Which is worse

[@frogwitch2805]

as someone who suffers from c-ptsd (this show came out not too long after i got diagnosed), i actually liked how they did this show. the whole “nothing happens” episodes where steven freaks out over minor inconveniences shows how his brain is wired to think that every problem could possibly be the end of the world bc in the past that’s how it was. he doesn’t know how to cope in a world where nothing is going on. also him seeing people gems that looked like his mom reminds me of how often times i see certain people in others/think i see certain people out of the corner of my eye and yeah it’s pretty intense. anyways i get how it can seem boring and disappointing, but i really appreciate how it shows c-ptsd (no matter how simply) and what it can do to your brain. great video btw! i like seeing other people’s perspectives!

[@humanleader184]

Yeah but its pretty irritating to waych especially after all the bullshit that goes down in the show and movie

[@jellyedits67]

Thank you for sharing your opinion! I personally also think it's good at showing other certain things that I can connect to my own experiences with mental illness including my depression which can get swept under the rug because "you're too young what could you possibly be sad about" but its awesome seeing other peoples thoughts on the show because of how mental health centered it is.

[@hanhan1749]

watching the whole SUF, i can really appreciate the boring-ness of the last season. If you pay close attention to details, steven is always finding someone to help or finding something to get busy with. As we may know, steven has c-ptsd and these can be subtle. I think of this as some coping mechanism steven has for his traumas. If i’m to be asked, the last season isn’t disappointing, it really shows a lot

[@abadidea8610]

exactly. suf wasnt meant to be like su the movie, it was about the long lasting effects of what steven experienced throughout the franchise. the first few episodes had nothing going on because it was meant to let us see into Steven's psyche and witness it going down a slippery slope. it's not everyone's cup of tea and it doesnt help that it was cut short by the execs .

[@giumebiagini2832]

I agree whole heartedly. I wanted to see why its bad from someone elses perspective but i can't see eye to eye. Skip certain parts in my life and this was a great euphemistic representation of myself and what trauma does to a person. Which i like when a show or game explores after their characters experience events that would be traumatic to certain people. Why i like SUF so much

[@Dylmations]

Don’t Give Rebecca Sugar the crap that this was a bad show. It didn’t Run with with Rebecca Directing. When the movie was finished Cartoon Network was like “YES WE NEED MORE STORIES AFTER THE MOVIE” and Rebecca did NOTHING all she did was Give the idea at SDCC 2019 and Cartoon Network just pretended Rebecca was in charge. That’s why the Written SO DIFFERENT

[@nateclone3828]

I honestly would have preferred it if Jasper STAYED shattered. Imagine, a gem that didn't want to bow to Steven's wishes, even when everyone around her, has, she has a refusal to change her ways. Then, when Steven comes to her for help, she helps in a way that Steven never dreamed of. Then, in a duel, Steven shatters her. A gem that Steven wanted to get better, one of the only loose ends that he himself wanted to redeem...gone. Steven would have to live with this, The fact that he shattered someone would make his mental illness much worse.

[@justinran1693]

I agree with this. Jasper didn’t really do much for the plot after fragments so her staying shattered would’ve made it less anticlimactic since the whole point of shattering is dying and not coming back

[@brentcruz6142]

@@justinran1693 I wishbit at least retained the impact. Like she stayed "dead" until the very end of the show or so.ething and then they figure out to try the diamond essence or whatever. Still would be fine if the stayed dead though.

[@sameatedcheese]

Adding on to this, the idea of shattering set consequences in the show. It helped form tension and a real sense of danger Then they started fixing shattered gems and the sense of danger was gone. The show lost it's consequences If that makes sense

[@brentcruz6142]

@@sameatedcheese It does! Jasper either should've stayed shattered permanently or until the very end so it at least kept its impact on Steven.

[@jessicacreed7773]

Idk, it'd be really impactful, but they would have had to go a lot bigger with the finale for Steven feeling okay with himself after permanently murdering someone to feel right. Idk if they could make it feel right, that's something he really should feel terrible about. And there'd be a lot of people hating on the show for turning Steven into an irredeemable monster or whatever. Having Jasper come back and call Steven "my diamond" was great imo, it played into his fears and was such an "oh shit" moment.

[@iliana7966]

We were supposed to get a Rhodonite backstory, but Rebecca thought it didn't fit with the plot. Yes Rebecca "A Very Special Episode" DEFINITELY fits with the plot.

[@vsuan27]

A very special episode should’ve been at least one backstory of a gem

[@buddygibson1207]

I mean she was being rushed to finish the show

[@Drawmatic]

I’m sure they could’ve squeezed it in Little Graduation. Instead of Steven talking to Jenny, he could’ve talked to Rhodonite. Maybe saying how everyone was looking forward, but he was looking back and transitioning it into her backstory, even if brief.

[@xnortheast1106]

Fr

[@group1896]

@@buddygibson1207 That is not a valid reason. Rebecca had time to plan out her episodes. Remember that they take multiple long hiatus. Steven Universe Future is filled with bad writing and she could've paced her episodes properly.

[@thedemonjester7755]

My problem is with the group hug and how he said “all your problems can be solved with a freakin group hug”, All his problems weren’t solved, that just helped him calm down in the moment, it takes him getting therapy and spending time on himself for him to actually get begter

[@that_normie_over_there7657]

That's exactly what I thought after that was said

[@LolWhattf]

He did get therapy tho. But it was only a mention so yeah disappointing as fuck. I thought at least they were gonna show him getting therapy

[@Saintphish]

Yeah he got therapy offscreen, cause the audience doesn’t want him to see him get better

[@imnogood5016]

@@Saintphish Or because we don't need to. We know he is getting therapy, and it's talked about naturally, destigmatized. And because there were no longer time ?

[@Lemoncakelover678]

@@imnogood5016 It would've been good for character progression though

[@Emilygonzalez-em4qj]

i feel like at the end with the "group hug thingy" steven started crying because he realized how many people were supportive and cared for him. As we know he felt like everyone saw him in his past self. When he saw that everyone HE cared about were finally listening to him, it made him feel better in a way. Sometimes you just need to feel seen or heard or just have a good cry. NO HATE BTW

[@e_6228]

No one here will have a good time now that we all know.. *Spinel is still standing. Wait for Pink to return. Still standing there* *_all alone_*

[@bwibwi5415]

You know I was having a good day .You know what I have know?*Tears*

[@jesbamanga1185]

That is actually sad.

[@lavenderstarzzz]

Buddha has nothing to do with this lol

[@toainsully]

To be honest, I'd go down a path of insanity if I was left in a garden for 6000 years

[@basedhomuraakemienjoyer9014]

Don't even try to convince me that she didn't at least once to get some Wendy's 😒

[@granthenrypanganiban4183]

Ok first of all, Greg's reaction to Steven by saying "I'm proud of you" is surprisingly in character for him, which is exactly why Steven starts to have static in his ears and muting Greg out because that exact attitude is what he blames Greg for. So I found it hauntingly perfect the way it played out because Steven already started to blame Greg, but this just adds fuel to the already burning fire. Also Spinel changing is kinda validated due to her being exposed to the Diamonds who provided her with superficial benefits such as makeovers (Yellow), substances, I mean literal dopamine drugs (Blue) and letting it out on someone else (White)

[@pastelsploosh8914]

Still doesnt matter, spinel if anything should grow to be smart, and not idiotic when it comes to others feelings, ESPECIALLY when Steven mirrors the desperateness that spinel has expressed. She has absolutely no right to do Steven like that, she became a hypocrite and absolutely oblivious towards steven. She means well of course but I don't think spinel should've "sang" to him, she should've actually helped him by giving her own personalized advice, or at least SYMPATHY.

[@emilyjones6875]

@@pastelsploosh8914 Okay but Gems take far longer to change and mature than humans, especially an emotionally stunted/traumatized overgrown toddler (Spinel) who is now living with beings whose emotional maturity does not far greatly exceed her own (the diamonds)

[@pastelsploosh8914]

@@emilyjones6875 if you use that logic and apply it to SU:F (which is a year probably from the movie) then her reverting to her old self is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. taken your logic being that gems take much longer to mature and to grow and spinel growing with diamonds (who are absolutely not similar to pink in any possible way, being immature and bratty when she was still with pink) she should've matured at least a TINY bit from her interactions with the diamonds, and still be going through abandonment issues and not being ignorant to the problems steven is facing. If you take it as a human level of growth then it might be possible with the powers (for example: blue diamonds clouds) to account. But even that, empathy is never shown in spinel at all, and she shouldn't be oblivious since steven specifically asked how she moved on. Stevens change song might be motivation, but she needs a hella wake up call when it comes to personal space and look around the room when it specifically comes to abandonment and how she treats others. Her treating steven with kisses and hugs while comedic would be unrealistic.

[@bombaymessyasf]

@@pastelsploosh8914 Seriously, they made spineless stupid and uncooperative and unable to help, even though out of everyone in the series she should understand and be able to help steven

[@pastelsploosh8914]

@@cbell1446 compared to the movie and the show, the show made her look so displeasing to look at. The movie made her look semi consistent throughout the movie, while in the show she has eyelashes, longer face, and overall look absolutely stiff. I think thats an artistic nitpick but either way, even for me, i knew that her art style declined when the show was aired, everyone else did not have the same problem except spinel.

[@pipperminty]

As someone who seriously relates to Spinel’s struggles and views and such, the ending of the movie was so wonderful. It made me feel like it’s ok that I’m not always stable, and that even if I’m not perfect I’m deserving of love. Spinel’s appearance in Steven Universe Future was like a slap to the face. It was so invalidating because all her development at the end of the movie was just *thrown away.*

[@ryancarson6962]

Eris Cook How was her development “thrown away”? She was only acting the way she did in the movie because she was basically lashing out at whatever she could, and by the end of the movie she basically gotten what she actually wanted, which was affection and loyal companionship, since the Diamonds basically adopt her. So why *WOULDN’T* she act the way she does in Future? She never actually hated being the friendly goofball she was before, in fact she has hinted numerous times throughout the movie that she hated the way she was acting, so it was clear that what she wanted in the end was to have fun with others again instead of being a broken lunatic that wants to destroy everything. Which is a desire that’s *fulfilled now.* Unlike Pink, the Diamonds show no signs of wanting to discard her so she has what she wants. And while she triggered Steven that’s not because she’s “stupid” or out of character. He asked her how she stopped being vengeful and she responds by singing back his advice about making a change, basically communicating that his advice helped her, which annoyed him but she didn’t realize that because she lacks social skills and grace in that area, something the movie had shown repeatedly to have issues with, I mean she literally invaded Steven’s personal space and was shown to be rather clingy. And what happened wasn’t even her fault, he’s not in a good place right now and by this point all of the Diamonds have unintentionally triggered him in some way, but Steven isn’t really communicating what he is going through so obviously they aren’t going to magically understand what he needs right now. They don’t know how to handle this situation. And it’s likely that she did learn from what happened with Pink and isn’t as gullible as she was before, but there’s obviously not much ways to show that since, again, she has companions who enjoy her company now and won’t discard her on a whim. Her development wasn’t thrown away, you just didn’t understand her character.

[@pipperminty]

Ryan Carson Spinel is heavily BPD coded, and clearly severely traumatized. I know from experience those things aren’t something you can just get over in a couple months or even a couple of years. No matter what desire has been fulfilled, the trauma and disorder are still there. It’s honestly kind of insulting that it’s played off as Spinel just being a clingy and toxic person who magically gets better the moment she get love. The abandonment issues never leave. The anger never leaves. The constant need to push others away before they hurt you never leaves. People with *severe* mental illnesses like BPD, or even trauma can’t always control the way they act, and they certainly can’t control the way they feel. Serious therapy is needed. The reason a lot of people relate to her is because of that. She didn’t instantly get better at the end of the movie just like I will never fully recover. It hurt to have that stripped away.

[@pipperminty]

Also, I didn’t say anything about it, but Rebecca has proven to be pretty ableist when it comes to Spinel.

[@pipperminty]

Ryan Carson Also, also, please don’t use the word lunatic when referring to her behavior. She’s coded with a serious mental disorder whether Rebecca meant to code her like that or not. People with the disorder aren’t fully in control of their feelings, and disregarding their actions as just being a lunatic is horrible. I’m working on getting a diagnosis myself. You don’t know what kind of hell it is to deal with.

[@Giuseppe0ne]

Steven universe future was not bad I think it was just aimed for a older audience than the first show also it was supposed to be a ending to the show I liked it a lot tbh

[@Giuseppe0ne]

Also in the first show Steven changed age multiple times bc of him thinking he was old and he looked like that in the episode

[@starfox5647]

I'm 41. It was bad!

[@friendthebarrel154]

Sans undertale rants about lesbian rocks for nearly 25 minutes Incredible (jokes aside good video)

[@Hydroshott]

Thanks

[@moonstone946]

LMAO LESBIAN ROCKS

[@gerald9974]

Lol

[@creampuffsbakery7376]

Rose/ Pink was the only non lesbian 😹

[@friendthebarrel154]

@@creampuffsbakery7376 oh yeah good point, completely forgot about her

[@FrogPrincessMagicMack]

When I saw Spinel it's like she went from 1080p to 144p

[@ifiwerearichman-yabadiba]

Well, that's one way to describe it

[@klourdes6068]

Same I hated the way they downgraded her

[@iwasborninarg]

@@klourdes6068 X2

[@camilleon2415]

@@klourdes6068 they had a lower budget

[@camilleon2415]

Btw before anyone comes for me this was a joke

[@Tttree1994]

They did Jasper so damn dirty. For years I was waiting for Jasper to make a big comeback, for her to get a redemption arc as great as Peridot's. But in the end, she didn't change at all. If she did get better, that would have happened off-screen, which is incredibly stupid. The final season ruined the entire show to me and completely shat on my fav character.

[@feraflauna3238]

+Tiktoktree-It's pretty clear the writers don't like Jasper very much and probably only brought her back because the fans were begging for it. And honestly, I didn't want Jasper to get the FRIENDSHIP treatment but how she was handled wasn't that stellar either. She's still angry all the time, and they don't really do anything with that. You get the implication that she's lost, confused, doesn't know what to do anymore now that she knows that Pink Diamond is Rose. Her creator, her "mother" is her greatest enemy and caused her greatest suffering. All the pain she ever suffered through. And with The Diamonds dismantling the Empire, Jasper is no longer required to be the "perfect Quartz" solider either. So what can she do? Who can she be now? And the show doesn't really do anything with that. At all. Steven's way of approaching her and trying to help her is to. .. feed into her nasty temper. . .Okay. . .Why? Steven taking lessons from Jasper has potential but they never do anything with it. And she makes him so mad that he straight up kills her. . .And when he magically revives her back to life, she develops Stockholms and swears absolute loyalty to "her Diamond." And that's the last you see of her until the last episode. It's IMPLIED she got better, off screen, because she's at Little Homeworld now. When at the beginning of the season, she refused to live among the other Gems and wanted to be by herself. And when Steven tells her he's leaving, she gets so upset that she knocks a hole in the wall. So she will miss him. But given that the last time Steven saw her, he straight up killed her, you can't see anything but a disturbing Stockholms where she wants to please Steven and do whatever he wants. Steven was the one who asked her to come join Little Homeworld. And there's no indication she came there for any reason other than because it's what Steven wanted. She swears undying fealty to him and telling her that he's leaving is only going to upend and traumatize her even more. And she's proven to be so violent, unstable, and unable to live with others that there's no indication she's not a constant danger to all the Gems around her. He just leaves and expects the Crystal Gems to pick up the mess.

[@helen8022]

@@feraflauna3238 bruh she was my favorite too 😭

[@Jdudec367]

eh....I felt like she should have intereacted more with atleast someone at the end but she is more neutral and less hostile to others at least

[@Jdudec367]

@@feraflauna3238I would say the writers don't dislike Jasper and that they wanted to bring Jasper back and to use her for something and they did but really main thing that I wished that happened was that they showed Jasper interact more with some other gems at the end of future. well now Jasper is just doing her own thing pretty neutral. Steven tried to get her to leave at that point to not be dependent on him but stockholm syndrome? steven didn't really capture Jasper or anything that's more likely if anything lapis may have developed that or jasper with lapis but Jasper was glad that there was someone stronger then her who she can serve was all as that's what her job was so she didn't develop Stockholm for Steven with Jasper she still seems neutral I feel like she may try to interact with some more gems but that should have been shown on screen really.

[@AreesDaOG]

Same

[@P34chy_B34n]

Peridot going: "steven universe futreeeeee!" WAS SO CUTE

[@ohnononononononononononono4687]

remember on Mr.Greg where Greg and Steven where singing about what they could do with the money and Greg says:"I could pay your college" and Steven sorta says: "I'm with the gems,i don't have to",they just erased this fact like Greg wanted to give him a chance and he was like "Nah,i'm good" and then he's all like "iT'S yOuR fAuLt,i cOuLd hAvE gOtTeN tO sChOoL",also Greg didn't had much money so he couldn't pay a school for Steven even if he wanted to,i think he wanted

[@tonyzamoni6166]

PREACH PREACH PREACH

[@Jdudec367]

eh....I think before he could pay for school for steven just never did. as for college....that could still happen and may happen at some point that was just what steven said back then. also doens't change what he said about the doctor's either

[@JangoMango5]

I think that was more of Steven wanting someone to blame other than himself for his childhood.

[@lisaornelas4891]

the thing is greg even said “i could buy you all the finest courses online”. n steven changes the subject to going on a trip with the money instead.

[@crazygreenbros7530]

Greg is rich

[@breadleymcthicc5444]

15:52 Is the most interesting concept in the entirety of this show. Steven realizes that no matter what awful things he does, he has the power to fix them, so it doesn't matter, and he will never have to learn. That sounds like the origin of a damn supervillain, and a remarkable one at that.

[@gemeuax143]

I kinda want Steven Universe to be about generational trauma. I want the villain to be Steven.

[@breadleymcthicc5444]

@@gemeuax143 Steven'd be a great villain.

[@gemeuax143]

@@breadleymcthicc5444 yep, even better then what they did to White Diamond

[@angeek1879]

@@breadleymcthicc5444 for real and I bet pink diamond/rose would be that character that’s like what happened to you as if she didn’t cause this or something

[@owouwuowo2730]

@@gemeuax143 the show kinda is about generational trauma lol. "But she only hurt you because I hurt her, just like how I hurt Yellow and Blue and everyone in the entire universe." - White Diamond on generational trauma

[@Matthew27gmd]

In "Fragments", steven looks like he has aged because he also has the ability to change his age based on his emotions. But what makes it worse, is that the only time this power was used, WAS IN THE FIRST SEASON!!!! AND IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP AGAIN UNTIL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Hello-qv2fx]

It was kinda in the second season in an irrelevant episode so in conclusion... It's just as stupid

[@NoBody-oe3bf]

I mean technically it’s an irrelevant power

[@SpaceSandwiches]

I cant see any useful situations that he could use that,he can just change his body age its not like he gets a massive boost of power using that ability

[@xantheburns-price1929]

He says there isn't an overarching plot but there actually is in most episodes: In the second one he tries to help everyone but fails, which causes him to think he is losing his ability to resolve everything and makes him rethink his purpose The roller rink portrays his inability to make real human friends and makes him realise that he isn't like a normal human at all and can't relate to them, cutting off a part of himself Cactus Steven shows him losing his friends and having a fear of losing new ones, so he starts planting but makes a living plant which he confines that he is losing faith in the people but it says it to those people and forces him to face his trauma Overall there is an actual overarching plot but instead of making it blatantly obvious there is one, it makes it way more subtle, each episode sneakily slipping in signs of different trauma and PTSD, and it also uses things that he learnt in his childhood to emphasize this. He rarely ever used to help himself and only helped others, that being his goal throughout all his time, but when there is no one to help he has no goal, and starts to feel empty, and the show shows that in different ways as he realizes he can't help people and starts to have his childhood trauma start making this sense of despair much worse, and this starts slowly effecting his mental and ( I think that the body swelling and stuff is actually representing when you are having a negative impact on your body) physical health, and no one around him helps, and some make it worse, which leads to him feeling alone and like he can't confinde in anyone which makes him feel even more depressed. And this is really shown as he begins to lose faith in the people around him and he begins to isolate himself, Cactus Steven emphasizes his fear of confindeing which is honestly just sad as he keeps all this stress and loneliness bottled up. Gosh, sorry I made this into an essay without even going into the ending episodes and saying about them, it was supposed to be short but I got carried away :-)

[@Escherichia.]

oh my gosh you’re observant 😭 /pos

[@yikers7530]

This is so well written! I totally agree with your points! Excellent insight

[@arthurdyer454]

He summone the fandom(you)

[@RandumChann3l]

Oh hey! Leafy pfp xd

[@Jdudec367]

Exactly! See you get it!

[@harvestmoon12345]

I actually have to say, as a parent, Greg telling Steven he's proud is just his unconditional love shining through. He swore he wouldn't be a controlling dictator like his parents. He's expressing to Steven that even at his very, very worst, he loves him and that he'll always be a safe place. It's one of the very few Future moments I admire.

[@XpetraXpazlX]

He didnt even raise him though. He probably could have lived in the gem house with everyone. Or at least parked his van there

[@MadLover4690]

Loving your child doesn't mean that you should be "proud" of everything they do, especially when they nearly just killed you in a rage. But as the other person replied, I feel that only works if greg actually raised steven, which he didn't. He was barely around and didn't even know the danger that steven was getting into until like the end of season 2 or season 3. Even afterwards, he let his underage child go fight alien overlords instead of fighting harder to keep him away from danger after steven ran from him and got abducted the first time.

[@helloharmonyy]

no, greg definitely should've just apologized for never being like a real human father to steven, steven could have gone to school and the doctor if greg let him. Yeah he needed to save the universe but his father still should have been with him more. especially since he basically had no mother and 3 siblings that never understood human feelings

[@wisp1740]

@@helloharmonyy bro it's not that deep the cartoon is fake

[@HollowKnightReference]

@@wisp1740 what do you even mean. The show literally says all of that.

[@lemon854]

I think the reason that Steven looks different after training with Jasper is that it was established in season 1 that Steven could change his appearance based on his emotions/state of mind. So he obviously felt much older and stronger when he was with Jasper, but once he shattered her he felt weak, and like he couldn't escape Pink Diamond, no matter how hard he tried

[@erikayou5249]

nice point

[@devo8917]

White Diamond looked into his thoughts and said- ÆUGH

[@Corissa526]

ÆUGH ÆUGH 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Corissa526]

ÆUGH ÆUGH ÆUGH ÆUGH

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Rebecca: mans steven crazy Lapis: This plan sucks

[@coolhedgeboi8323]

Is this the now dead pufferfish sound?

[@Corissa526]

Coolhedgeboi ÆUGH yep 👍

[@RefluxCitadelRevelations]

The plot of the show is to clearly be a more adult and serious look on the effects of trauma and the ways that it hides in your mind and body. Steven's growths are a subconscious aspect of his trauma showing through his body. The show is attempting to use character, and character design in order to show the dangers of trauma and what it can do to a person if left unchecked. Steven shattering Jasper is something that is fixable because it demonstrates the idea that people with trauma will mask their negative behavior, whether that's self-destructive or harmful to others, with righting their wrongs as they make them before anyone can see the true damage they're doing to themselves or others. If there is an aspect of this series you don't understand as to why the creators did what they did, the most likely reason is to show character. Why does Steven think that proposing to Connie? Because he's insecure about who he is, so he relies on someone else to do the heavy lifting. This is a pretty common tactic among people in general, not just those with ptsd or mental illnesses. The way Connie's mother talks about trauma is one of the most accurate and realistic portraits I have seen. And there is probably better, but when she talks about how Steven's body is reacting to minor circumstances as if it's the end of thr world - I personally really connected with that. I saw myself in that phrasing. It's brilliant they were able to take such an extreme topic and display it in a way that makes it for anyone of any age an easy time to understand.

[@launderine]

yeah but that took place in like 5 of the episodes and it kinda ruined the rest of the show too

[@Peridot5xg]

*[Oh stars, here we go again]*

[@thexylophone]

CJ says it better-

[@dragonempress8367]

@@thexylophone yeah

[@TheExplainer-bv1wb]

There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year

[@TheExplainer-bv1wb]

@@thexylophone There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year

[@TheExplainer-bv1wb]

@@dragonempress8367 There is actually going to be a steven universe 2. Were steven is an adult and after a couple of episodes he meets the gems and also the world is halfed his dad died I dont know where is lapis but peridot and bismut what also there. Other gems started to become corrupted again. The diamonds look different and spinel..... she is again so evil so mean. And at the last episode of steven universe 2. He has kids and a family so... (spoiler alert). Also I dont know were connie is!? And pink diamond is back... she wasn't actually shattered. She has amnesia.. but I cant tell you the rest... steven universe 2. Probably coming ate December or next year

[@duaahmed3504]

Steven: *Almost kills his dad* Greg: I'm proud of you Me: *claps slowly Edit: wow 842 likes...

[@universereverbz]

Greg is proud that his own son almost killed him? Wow, Greg. Just..wow.

[@egon2499]

Welp, Greg didn't had the gem to almost kill his dad.

[@metropcsuser3077]

Steven never killed his own father stop making comments like this

[@universereverbz]

@@metropcsuser3077 We were saying he *almost* did kill him, not he did.

[@idkism1345]

Hmmmm

[@holymuffin3562]

I swear every second is just Rebecca Sugar punishing us for even thinking about wanting an epilogue series

[@nugget5953]

*Oh cheese REBECCA WHY*

[@zannis5441]

Renaldo is what the crew thinks of us actually.

[@chaosisorganised]

I hope she gets started on the epilogue bismuth. Get it.

[@aaronlandry3934]

@@Raya-ir4tm She gets good ideas and has no clue of how to execute any of them or have them naturally flow together, but she is good at making filler about unimportant background characters

[@drakaar_jm]

Man really said Steven universe future didn't have good music

[@DefinitelyNotYT]

he clearly hasn't listened to "I'd rather be us"

[@jespee]

@@DefinitelyNotYT that's not even a song from the show

[@900flyingmuffins6]

My theory is that Jasper stayed shattered and everything after that bathroom scene is just Steven having a mental breakdown from killing someone.

[@lakeerickson2279]

he just like went insane and went into a deep sleep forever lmao

[@nymphohalo]

Shit..

[@rosykindbunny1313]

Ooo! Kinda like SUF Rewritten by KiwiQueen13, except in the rewrite everything is real.

[@tohruadachi3928]

A better ending honestly

[@cellogum]

Then how do you explain what happened later?

[@NoOne-pg4qu]

My theory: This show was rushed, and cartoon network tried to flush out the good things in the show for various reasons. Something happened. Someone did something. I don't know what it is, but something happened-

[@zannis5441]

well that one it is true but even when rushed, you gotta be coherent about it

[@buddygibson1207]

Nah that's not a theory that's literally what happens.

[@Andyatl2002]

@@zannis5441, it’s coherent enough, just pacing is off

[@chaotic5245]

Actually this is 100% true in the second art book of the series Rebecca reveal that the series was canceled during the production of ruby and sapphire’s wedding so that’s why the original series ending felt rushed but Cartoon Network decided to greenlight the movie and because the movie was greenlight cartoon network was like "if this movie happens then we'll give your more show because movie promotes show"

[@tisjustangie]

@@chaotic5245 jeeeesus cartoon network just makes weird things worse

[@tokkippang]

I’m terrified for what the fandom is gonna do to you.

[@Hydroshott]

same

[@boopywoofy]

Now when you mentioned it,spinel did not have her tears,how did you spot that!?

[@Hydroshott]

@@boopywoofy I have eyes of steel

[@boopywoofy]

Understandable

[@loustvre]

@@Hydroshott 👁👄👁 the eyes of steel

[@PaodeQueijoaah]

how it feels to enjoy steven universe future without some 20 minutes documentary screaming at yo ear that it is bad because of stevens face hair

[@augustonthebrave.bravery.6818]

I can agree...except for the overarc episode. What upsets me is the lack of actual mental health progression that can actually be relatable. Gets solved by a hug?! Give me a break. No progression. Seriously.

[@dr.sajidmadethisaccount579]

I agree but I still liked the closure episodes

[@zannis5441]

its like neurotypical telling you to stop being depressed and think ''that's it I solved the problem, no need for therapy :D '' ''mental health who she?'' when no that's not how it works

[@shay9023]

He is still dealing with his issues till the end of the show. The last episode was his rock bottom, and the end is him starting to accept help. He's not supposed to be healed. I actually found it really relatable to my own mental health journey.

[@zannis5441]

@@shay9023 that’s cool

[@CYB3RG0TH]

He’s PTSD is not cured . They just hugged him so they know that they loved him even though they have seen the bad side of him so he wouldn’t think he’s a monster

[@sharkanenoa5928]

You know i feel like the Regular Show series finale WORKED was because they had the guts to kill off a major character. No other major cartoon series finale had the the guts do that. or has since. Death is more impactful.

[@starguy8809]

i liked regular show soo much

[@drsharkboy6568]

Or Samurai Jack. That one also had a big finale.

[@OReily08080]

Arkan NOA wait who died?

[@drsharkboy6568]

Elle Pops

[@OReily08080]

DrSharkBoy 😦😐 ok

[@asbestocess]

Ya’ll remember that power that Steven had that made him able to go in another gem’s mind? WE LITERALLY NEVER SEE THAT POWER AGAIN

[@KaoMarMar]

What season was that on???

[@Jdudec367]

@@KaoMarMar season 3

[@tyronjanuary263]

He literally did that in Future to White..>When White was in his mind he ended up Controlling her instead using his mind gem powers....Also in Escapism he used it to become the watermelon which saved their lifes

[@Jdudec367]

@@tyronjanuary263 actually for white that was more so I reversal of white's own power really

[@NameName-yj7lp]

YEAH I DON’T REMEMBER HOW PINK HAD IT

[@Trysaratop]

Honestly I loved it because that's reality you dont always get your high-school sweetheart and they break your heart and sometimes you don't figure yourself out and live in a van your whole life like Steven's dead beat father who was clearly broken to losing his love to basically child birth, but you know what? Everyone did love him and sometimes family, friends and lovers are the cause of your ptsd and that takes time and growing and forgiveness to do. I would love to see them make another season where he travels and finds himself and explores out on his own path.

[@autinjones7194]

OK I agree with you mostly. But Greg is far from a deadbeat. Why do you think he lives in a van most of the series? quite literally most of the money he makes from his car washing job pays for Steven's house and bills. And courts aren't forcing him to do that he does so because he wants to. The reason why he does not live with Steven is because he's partially afraid of him and partially afraid of the crystal gems. Plus he had lived by a parenting philosophy of not wanting To be in your kids face all the time. That being said he lives just down the street from Steven and they hang out all the time. In fact Greg is probably Stevens closest human friend. Sorry to go off on a tangent but after all the Peter Griffin's and Homer Simpson's Stan Smiths and Hank Hills, Greg is so refreshing as one of the only cartoon dads I've ever seen that is actually a good father even if he doesn't have his life together.

[@Gachaco.]

I do agree that Spinal hasn't had enough time to heal. It takes more then a few months to get over YEARS of trama. This is coming from someone who is still mentally healing from a bad time in my life after years. Overall future had its up and downs. I think Steven's actual breakdown was pretty realistic. It wasn't perfect but it's good enough. I still hate what they did to Paradot's character.

[@prez.cookie980]

We can't really say Spinel WAS healed. Regression back to a childlike state (which for her is people-pleasing and lighthearted humor) isn't necessarily growth. She is just trying to relearn how to care about people

[@dorothylines440]

@@prez.cookie980 this! Also we only see her for 1 episode and not even a full one(not really) there is no way to say she's better she may just be having a good day after seeing Steven or just want to make him feel like she's doing better to prove she was worth saving We don't know

[@sparkstudies1675]

@@prez.cookie980 Exactly! Or who knows, maybe she's also really not okay and nobody knows lmao. But I find people are a little too harsh about it either way.

[@thedestroyasystem]

Agreed 100% about this. So many people are seeing this as black and white, like SUF is either a perfect or awful representation of trauma. It’s neither. It has its strengths and its weaknesses, some of which were beyond its control (scheduling and budget cuts). I like how they tried to wrap up all the storylines we didn’t have closure to, even if they did so poorly. I like how they tried to show the effects of trauma in a realistic way through a variety of characters, even if they sometimes failed pathetically there were good moments too. The fact that they tried is what matters most to me, because even though I think SUF was mostly boring and unnecessary, representing PTSD in a kid’s show (and outright stating that’s what they were doing) in a way that isn’t completely inaccurate paves the way for better, more consistent representations in the future. I feel like it’s similar with queer representation in SU. The stuff we get is shitty or boring sometimes, and absolutely heart wrenching others. The point is that they dared to try.

[@sothisishowusernameswork.2043]

are we all forgetting something? at the end of steven universe the movie yellow diamond says that 6000 years is nothing

[@ifiwerearichman-yabadiba]

I remember being excited for Future after watching the movie, now I'm sad that Future ended up being bad

[@Hydroshott]

I feel your pain

[@ifiwerearichman-yabadiba]

@@Hydroshott Thanks

[@bizzah6524]

I feel you bro

[@ifiwerearichman-yabadiba]

@@bizzah6524 From a bro to another bro, thanks

[@ifiwerearichman-yabadiba]

@@bizzah6524 I'm really gonna start thanking anyone that replies to my comment now aren't I

[@icarusascending3987]

16:23 you're wrong on that one mate. That's EXAAAAAACTLY how someone with PTSD sounds: he thinks the trauma is his fault, and hes a worse person because of it.

[@rebia5542]

Fr. When a person is feeling extremely overwhelmed they also experience a lot of crazy mood swings shifting from blaming everyone around them for their situation to blaming themselves for everything

[@imnogood5016]

All the commenters saying how SUF is a terrible example of how trauma actually works are so wrong and clearly have never suffered trauma themselves. That was actually, really realistic.

[@zunaqxc]

i'm watching this video and losing my braincells

[@yio__]

@@imnogood5016 from my understanding, trauma is different for everyone, so… different perspectives?

[@madeleinecookie8065]

Trauma is different for everyone so....

[@AussieGriffin]

I've experienced trauma and I have to say that what Steven goes through in SU:Future is showing it's audience the steps of denial, fear, anger and self harm that people go through. If I'd been writing the show then Lapis Lazuli would have been the one who fixed Steven, not Jasper. She understood the condition better than anyone. A.G.

[@mazkeraid4039]

That should have been the resolution, and the only difference is that Bismuth would be taking care of Lapis Lazuli and Peridot because she treated them better.

[@atsukokagari_]

show: things were rushed because we ran out of time/were limited :( also show: *adds way too many filler episodes* edit: oops nvm lol he mentioned that

[@Jdudec367]

eh...weren't much filler really...I can think of atleast 1 episode but....eh

[@Jdudec367]

@@xavierazhar8744 since the plot was mainly about steven's own mental health it really did. songs weren't that bad either

[@Jdudec367]

@Stalls for what future was about (being steven's own mental issues and tackling some stuff that was left over in the original show) rose buds I wouldn't count as that does focus on somethign unanswered int he original series. same with bluebird. snow day was technically more so focused on steven's own issues really. why so blue is focusing on how gems react to the new era 3 of gems and how things have changed under the diamond authority which was interesting/ A very special episdode? was none of that and was obviously filler

[@DeathnoteBB]

Xavier Azhar Don’t blame Rebecca Sugar for Cartoon Networks apathy and sabotage

[@Jdudec367]

@Stalls eh...aquamarne and topaz wouldn't really get along anymore remember? it's nice that eyeball and aquamarine got a annswer as to what happened to them as this was kinda like part of what this epilogue series would do really and yeah their question did get answered as they did appear in future and it's clear there just gonna spend time just going around being annoying and wanting revenge against steven.the purpose of showing how different gems would react? true but this time it shows a different kind of gem being more lapisis and how unlike jasper who is more neutral now those lapisis just wanna cause more destruction

[@animator_cn3896]

You know, watching spinel in both films gave me this vibe: Spinel in the SU movie: 1080p 60fps Spinel in SU Future: 144p 10fps makes me sad :/

[@stevenquartzuniverse6526]

Always has been.

[@ApeExample]

@@stevenquartzuniverse6526 thats not your full name

[@raphbau]

@@stevenquartzuniverse6526 your full name is Steven Quartz Cutiepie Demayo Diamond Universe.

[@white-eyed]

@@seanratcliffmusic And so what, a lot of cartoons have great animations and action scenes even if doesn't have movie budget.

[@white-eyed]

Not only that, she looks ASTRONOMICALLY better in the movie too. They changed her measures and it makes her look much worse...what a waste honestly.

[@societyproductions]

One of my least favorite things about Future, besides the finale, is the fact that Steven tried to murder White Diamond in cold blood and it never gets mentioned again. You can't just attempt to murder the leader of the gem empire and pretend it never fucking happened.

[@brqe]

Yeah that kinda made me mad 💀

[@copy-rightedname]

They should’ve just stopped at the movie tbh

[@silverw9190]

He didn’t try to murder white, he was trying to injure himself or more specifically his gem (or Rose, /Pink) for everything she’s put him through. He’s able to control people with he’s extremely emotional so when he started controlling white it was just a reflection of his own emotional state, being anger towards the life Rose/Pink left for him

[@sparkstudies1675]

Yeah, I actually agree, tbh 💀

[@Jell0___]

10:48 He didn’t shave…his aging power. During his time of training, he felt powerful, which made him feel older. But once he killed jasper, he went back to normal(for whatever reason). Being able to control his age was one of his first powers introduced :3

[@lilplayfulfandomgirl6193]

Yeah :/ that kinda ruined the review for me. it makes it seem like they didnt do enough research.

[@egon2499]

Steven: *crying that the gems won't reach to him and trying to understand his problems* The gems: *reaching out to him when they feel concerned and want to try understanding his problems* Steven: *telling them to leave him* The gems: *leave him be* Steven: *disappointed monster roar*

[@bombaymessyasf]

THANK GOODNESS someone else noticed

[@MrVaiza]

Thats mental problems for ya “i don’t need help” kinda bull

[@egon2499]

@@MrVaiza I never laughed so hard when some people actually commented that Rebecca Sugar did such a good job on showing how mental problems work. 😂

[@ryomahoshi4529]

@@MrVaiza that's more of a feeling of being helpless,and if you fell 10 times but 1 time someone caught you,that doesn't mean you will trust the person to catch you again. If you understand what i'm trying to say

[@ryomahoshi4529]

@@egon2499 well i mean,people related to how it was done,so it wasn't that bad.

[@keirasalley6851]

My biggest problem is that they added only 2 new fusions and that there wasn’t a proper villain

[@Anna-hy4sb]

I Guess Our Villain Was Steven.

[@oliviagarden9460]

I don’t think you need a villain for there to be a good story.

[@invisibleghost3820]

You don’t, but Steven Universe always has some sort of threat, even if it is lingering in the background.

[@pmrgsolutions3261]

I only agree with the first part of what u said

[@pmrgsolutions3261]

And also there was a proper villain Steven Universe

[@MinAway08]

Why do I agree to this so much. It’s like the epilogue was just planned out so fast and they thought they were gonna think it would be good. And now thinking of it I was really dumb for liking this season.

[@rum_coke_17]

One of my biggest problems with this show was how they treated Greg’s backstory. Remember how his cousin Andy acted when we first met him? Judgemental, prejudiced, and hateful towards change. Now imagine what Greg’s parents and older relatives must have been like. Greg’s parents seem like the kind of folk to raise their kid as an ornament and not care very much for their wants and their aspirations. Also note that Greg sent them plenty of letters, but _none of them_ were even opened. Greg said that he had to hide all of his stuff as a kid. You shouldn’t _have_ to hide anything from your parents, especially something like your interests and passions. Not only that, but Greg also got used to entering and exiting the house via his bedroom window, probably in order to avoid his parents. Now I know that he wasn’t a paramount parent, living in a van and raising a half-alien kid all on his own (until the gems came into the picture) but I wouldn’t call him negligent. He even offered at one point to send Steven to school with his newfound money, but Steven said he was with the gems all the time. And I can easily understand the complications with doctor’s visits. But dammit, I will defend Greg Universe with my life. While Steven had a much less than typical childhood, I wouldn’t blame his father for his trauma. But instead of giving us a simple filler episode with insight as to what it was like for Greg growing up and the reason why he left in the first place, they just made it another thing for Steven to stress and have an outburst over.

[@noirby5268]

Honestly, Jasper just should have stayed dead. I love her. She's really cool and I like her as an antagonist. But she should've just been shattered FOREVER. The show has explained that once a gem is shattered, they cannot be brought back.(except for when they are forced to fuse.) It would have been much more impactful if Jasper was just gone. As heartbreaking as it may be to see Jasper shattered, you gotta admit, it would've been better if they just killed her off. Also what they did to Spinel was just.. Not okay. I hated every second she was around. Just why. Rebecca why.

[@riffshe20]

You’re asking the same person who somehow redeemed space Nazis why she made a bad plot decision. Yeah.

[@riffshe20]

@@vroomvroomchoomchoom7459 Oh sorry, I meant the diamond empire, the same gems who’ve taken over a million planets, shattered a million gems and force-fused the crystal gems that were left from the gem war and put them all at the earth’s core to destroy the planet. Ring a bell?

[@ewankobastataoko7218]

Yeah I agree, but since it's a children's cartoon it should have a "good ending" typical cartoon plot ending no one friggin dies like why? Tbh I think cartoon network shows are getting worse. (I've been watching cartoons since I learned how to watch tv so I know what am saying) ( ╹▽╹ )

[@teriyaki4640]

Noirby nj

[@metaknight1410]

Why does Jasper have to die? I'm not saying it because shattering should be fixable or something, I'm just saying it because why Jasper specifically? She's one of the characters with the most trauma and damage, even if she caused it herself. She was the only antagonistic character written who a redemption arc would be appropriate. She would have to go through a lot for it to be good and satisfying, but it was possible.

[@voguishthrone5887]

My personal theory is that Spinel is hiiiigh off of Blue’s tears and that’s why she acts the way she does

[@lakeerickson2279]

yeah the way i see it (mostly just to compensate in my own mind cuz im dissapointed w future) is that its showing that no matter how many "good things" the diamonds try to do its not gonna undo anything and its not really gonna help either. like blue just has happy clouds which doesnt help whatsover and just makes people avoid their problems and steven shows that he doesnt like that in the show. spinel has probably had tons of exposure to these so shes not gonna properly heal which is kinda twisted.

[@defactofaulto8792]

Wow just holy cow! I actually never looked at It that way, It almost gives her character a grim tone and twist, but overall pretty disappointing, she could've been better

[@astelerodite8332]

@@lakeerickson2279 it's because she's a court jester-

[@astelerodite8332]

she's a court jester that's why lmao

[@JamieI-lz7de]

Same

[@BHTHETERRIFIER]

While I didn’t hate future I still think the series should have ended with the movie, it was just a much better ending that bringing up random ptsd that was gone the entire first 5 seasons.

[@says101]

the movie and miniseries sucked, shouldve ended it at the finale with the diamonds unredemmned

[@seishonagon8468]

@@says101 the movie didn't suck in my opinion.

[@Samsaknight]

@@says101 The movie and mini series isn't bad

[@Samsaknight]

The ptsd was there for all those tf lmao literally every horrible experiences he's had built up to that

[@BHTHETERRIFIER]

Samsaknight X it didn’t take massive effect until future which I feel didn’t have enough time to solve all of it which ruins my enjoyment if they had like 5 or even 10 extra episodes it could have had potential to be one of the best seasons

[@stevengosnell7034]

Honestly, THE CRYSTAL GEMS are the reason Steven didn't have a childhood (school, medical, ect.) It is not Greg's fault, his own son was kinda wrongfully kidnapped after the loss of his alien wife. Then said kidnappers refused to even have Greg in Steve's life most of the time or in the house that should be his too. Its pretty depressing Greg didn't get to be a father or watch his son grow on an intimate level and thats NOT his fault.

[@notgay1531]

Steven wasn’t kidnapped by the gems? Unless you’re talking about that one episode but Greg got Steven back. Steven only started living with the gems around right before season one of Steven universe started

[@SuperiorChaotic]

Didn't Steven choose to follow his mom's footsteps?

[@stevengosnell7034]

@@SuperiorChaotic I mean... did he actually or was he literally raised as if he was her replacement and savior of the Gems? He literally didn't even have a friend his own age until Connie. Just, no.

[@SuperiorChaotic]

@@stevengosnell7034 Cool. Their whole shtick was probably cus Steven had enough time as a human from ages 1-12 so once he was old enough, it was time for him to discover his Gem side of things. If you still think it's immoral, then ok. His life is weird af anyways.

[@stevengosnell7034]

@@SuperiorChaotic it's not really immoral just bad fucking writing.

[@sunnynxtes]

I am confused on why Spinel didn't say shit in the finale when they were all hugging Steven. Spinel is probably the closest gem to have a similar experience as Steven yet she didn't say anything? Smh. Future was terrible.

[@lerelpannell4182]

And i also think Bismuth and Lapis should of said something too especially Lapis since she also has those experience too.

[@sobersplash6172]

This THIS I wanted Spinel to pay it forwards

[@Jdudec367]

eh...she did follow him to earth to help him out though. her own issues really weren't the same though.still wouldn't call future terrible

[@youhasbeenbooped.4232]

One word. Writers. Terrible, shitty writers that don’t know the meaning of good writing.

[@surmminthcv0895]

Spinel is not a deep character, yes, she suffered but not in such a complex way as to give her a plot

[@dragonempress8367]

I was so pissed at Greg. XD I went off on him on my Steven universe tier list video. I had to make him pissed in my story, future tense. And Rebecca sugar isn't entirely the blame for this crappy writing, she gives her other writers too much freedom. And they're storyboardeders, not writers. That explains why this writing is so crappy. I'm not defending Rebecca, I don't know her. I'm just saying a stupid team is a big problem when it comes to writing.

[@lerelpannell4182]

@Blazingblue Dimensional animations Fuck you for not taking criticism.

[@feraflauna3238]

+Dragon empress-Greg for a long time was one of the few characters this show didn't ruin. He was a good dad, and a wonderful human being .. .Until Future came along. . .Where it's established that his parents are still alive and he never introduced Steven to Steven's own grandparents because. . .reasons. . .Greg always had family he could count on when things got bad. So that means that Greg bummed it with Steven for years, didn't give Steven a stable, proper home over his head until the Crystal Gems took the major custody, where Greg was probably raising Steven in his van or at the car wash; led his son to believe his biological grandparents were dead, never told Steven about even relatives like Andy, because Greg is a selfish prick. He claims he never told Steven about the DeMayo part of his family because he was "trying to give Steven the life he never had", the life Greg's parents never granted him. . .by. . .letting Steven believe his grandparents are dead or don't want to be in his life. When his grandparents probably don't even know Steven exists, or that Greg had a lover that he conceived a kid with. Just. . .what the actual fuck? I suppose it was only a matter of time where they permanently ruined Greg too, and boy did they ever. He goes from a loving, great dad who gave Steven the best quality of life he could give him and what he had available to a selfish a who unnecessarily caused so much stress and turmoil in his and Steven's lives. To where Steven didn't even know he had grandparents that are still alive. Steven has a whole family he doesn't know about. If Greg wanted to live a hippie lifestyle where he constantly bummed for food and housing, that's on him. He was an adult and could make his own decisions when he chose that life. But he dragged his own son into this mess when Steven could've had a normal childhood, a normal life he badly needed.

[@Jdudec367]

eh....I wouldn't say the writing was overall that bad or that greg is that bad

[@Jdudec367]

@@feraflauna3238 eh...I get why he didn't want steven to know about his grandparents. Who seemed to not even care about greg's life anymore. Maybe grge should have said something about some relavtives like andy but that doesn't make greg a selfish prick for not telling steven about him though. although I would say greg messed up on how he compared his life to steven though I mean Steven still had a right to be upset honestly

[@mysticalkeyblade759]

She doesn’t have any writers

[@dragonempress8367]

You avatar looks like human sans and I am concerned. Other than that, good review.

[@rexythet.rexfromjpreadabou186]

Think it might be.

[@sanstheskeleton7473]

Ok then

[@eieiejjr]

@@sanstheskeleton7473 whatchu think of your human counterpart?

[@sanstheskeleton7473]

@@eieiejjr cool

[@cheezywafflez5085]

Hydroshot's? That's joker, from persona 5

[@absolutelychampagne]

I hate how it was advertised as a continuation to the movie but ended up being about Steven struggling with mental health and turning pink. It had so many opportunities to answer unanswered mysteries but didn't even give us an answer to why Steven turned pink which was basically the whole story of the steven universe future series. I wish they just made the movie the finale

[@taluca8474]

Someone says that this show depicts Steven’s PTSD and depression as something dangerous not only to the person but to also others because they can attempt to kill anyone and even burst into anger. That’s like teaching kids about Stockholm syndrome Edit: Okay I thought some things through, maybe PTSD can lead you to be a bit hostile and aggressive depending on what kind of trauma you faced. While it can be a bad thing, it’s best to handle it in a healthy way to heal the person

[@RushedToma]

What's that

[@egon2499]

@@RushedToma Stockholm syndrome means that a crime victim falls in Love or begins to sympathise with the criminal. Best example is "Beauty and the Beast". Belle is keeping hostage by the beast and fell in love with him.

[@usho.chain2]

@@egon2499 Wait...so you telling me people be teaching this to kids these days? Isnt steven universe for 7 plus or sum?

[@egon2499]

@@usho.chain2 Well, it also was watchable on CartoonNetwork, which is mostly watched by children.

[@usho.chain2]

@@princesspeachfan100 well i never thought of this...thanks...i mean isnt the shownover? Arent the kids gonna be safe? Untill something like a sequel happends

[@janusrobson7516]

In "I Am My Monster", not everything is fixed by the hug, it's just pulling him out of a crisis and giving him a chance to find a support group to help heal him over time. It's actually directly addressed in "The Future" by Steven having found a professional therapist. The feeling that the gems should be sad that he's leaving is completely understandable because Steven has spent his entire life with the gems being open about their emotions with him, and he thinks he knows how they would feel about him leaving. The gems acting in a manner that he doesn't expect is troubling to him because it makes him feel alone again, which is what he's been trying to fix for 2 months at that point. The reason he's leaving is because he has to have a change of scenery to heal from the trauma he has from his childhood. Since most of his trauma either happened in beach city or is gem-related, it makes sense that he would need to get away from the source of his trauma and probably one of the major triggers for his C-PTSD to heal from his fractured state of mind as much as he can

[@sparkstudies1675]

Yes, 200% agree! Well said.

[@naganut9718]

Still, the hug solves the conflict and somehow calm steven down, even tho white diamond says he's not steven anymore

[@xchrysantha]

@@Camel_P_ox The thing is that Steven is probably the "best" person in the entire show when looking strictly at his impact on others. He's always been the emotional support not only for his peers but also for the adults in his life that were supposed to be responsible for him. His entire driving force was to heal others and save the world. Half of that is his genuinely huge heart, but the other half is instinctively yet unknowingly avoiding your own experiences. As you keep moving through life and collecting all those moments of trauma, it builds and builds and builds until you either deal with it or it explodes out of you. After so many indirect cries for help and how horribly he was breaking apart while nobody around him noticed or provided the support he needed, he lost it. It's not that it makes it okay or permissible or that he should be exempt from consequences; but it's that it was the direct explosive result of his constant self-sacrifice and everyone else's constant willingness to keep taking from him. There was so much emphasis on "he's not himself" because the discrepancy between his actions in crisis and his actions the entire rest of his life was SO huge, and even though his actions are his own, the people around him share responsibility in their complete negligence, gaslighting, and overbearing pressure. The hug definitely wasn't something to just make everything go away (though it did seem like it since the crewniverse was just too limited to expand that story), it was just a moment to calm his sympathetic nervous system down - like grounding exercises for PTSD or other mood disregulatory conditions. Once you ground the system, then you can start doing the work. So that's unfortunately what the team didn't have the time to work through or display between that moment and the month after when he leaves. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I think when looking at what Rebecca Sugar and the crew found more important to convey in such a short time limit, I imagine they wanted to lean into exhibiting compassion, understanding, and validation for their audience who may have suffered or be suffering the way Steven was - while driving down the message, "It's okay to not be okay, and if you need help you deserve to go seek it."

[@xchrysantha]

@@Camel_P_ox I see where you're coming from now, sorry about that. And yeah, I tend to watch shows like a dream rather than understand them at face value and headcannon a LOT of things without realizing when it comes to really heavy emotional moments, and when I talk about certain scenes my friends will be like, "That...wasn't even in the show." So looking back, yeah that entire section of the show really was lacking. I ALSO AGREE WITH THE FILLER BIT, I like filler sometimes because I enjoy seeing characters in their day to day just doing silly stuff, but I CAN'T WITH RONALDO AND I'M SO PISSED HE GOT SO MUCH SCREENTIME. *sigh* But those episodes were written before Sugar knew there would be such a tight limit at the end, I'm sure if she had known she would've scrapped a lot of episodes. So basically what had happened was after Ruby and Sapphire's wedding, CN was like, "Alright buddy that's too much gay sh** we gotta shut you down," and Sugar and the team essentially fought back and were like "AT LEAST LET US FINISH THE DAMN SHOW LIKE TF," so CN gave them a movie and SUF. It really f***ing sucked. But I can see where the vision was and what would have been inserted had they had more time and space to work with it. (;n; ) I will say I didn't get the sense that "Steven's all good now." I actually got the sense that he was still broken but needed to just get out of the environment he was in to clear his head and discover who he is. Again though, that might be my own headcannon. I STRONGLY have identified with Steven since the beginning - I am him and he is me lol. And SUF was no exception, in fact it was really jarring and upsetting watching the whole thing. At the end, I saw a lot of myself in that after all the years of what I had went through there was a moment that blew up, and I f***ed off for like a year away from my family because I just felt defeated and couldn't be there anymore. I did the same thing about a year ago, I started discovering my boundaries and needs, and a lot of people did not like that and in a way turned on me. So I left home for a few weeks and went somewhere hundreds of miles away completely by myself because I needed to escape what I knew and discover who I actually was outside of that. As humans, we're very reactive, and a lot of times "who we are" is how we're reacting to and surviving a toxic environment. Sometimes you don't really know who you are and what you're about until you get away from everything you know. Anyway so for me personally it really didn't feel like "everything was okay," it felt like Steven hit his breaking point, his trust and faith in everyone he knew was damaged (even if they did "hug it out," it was enough to calm him down and ground him but not enough to repair the damage), and he left to remove himself from what he knew and emotionally cleanse himself. But I can see now how that's something I'm inserting into the story but really wasn't displayed tangibly in the show itself, and where a lot of the [constructive] criticism is coming from. And I wish so much that they could've been given the time to do that because it is too subtle and intricate to just imply in a "children's" show, and it's such an important message and piece of experience to get across.

[@jackandthebeanstalk4253]

This!

[@toes8278]

I’m so mad that they didn’t do anything with Spinel aw well. They could’ve made her got to little homeschool to make lots of friends and learn new things with other gems. That would really help since she doesn’t like being alone. They literally downgraded her character. They just made her annoying, loud, and bubbly. They made her recover so quickly. They also didn’t do anything on Pearls past. Not even more on Lapis or Bismuth. They also never said anything on how Spinel got a rejuvenator or the big injecter. SUF could’ve been better if it showed more character development, filled plot holes, progress on fixing trauma, maybe more about the diamonds, etc. I usually am not one to insult shows, but they gave us crap. They didn’t even TRY.

[@toes8278]

*As well

[@yoitsmichelle5838]

Bro Spinel could've helped SO MUCH with Steven's issue with everyone leaving/abandoning him because, as you know, Spinel kind of went through that.

[@velosistatheradishiy8602]

Today right here right now I’ll love it again or I am I kill the diamonds

[@NameName-yj7lp]

I wanted to know more on Pearl and who really lapis was

[@avidnoceur]

THIS RIGHT HERE. this was exactly what i was thinking-

[@danc3150]

Steven: being mad that he didn't go to school In that one episode: Greg:🎶i can get you to collage🎶 Steven: but IM always with the gems

[@timberrobles7752]

Oh a child? Preferring what he’s used to? How unheard of! And how, pray tell, would he ever get through college if he never went to school in the first place? What his sats scores will just appear?

[@Deadwormsandjunk]

You forgot to mention connie's speech is just her saying "yeah it is all of your fault I'm the only good person here"

[@cockitchy4434]

fr💀

[@dreamdesk7258]

She ain’t wrong

[@chezbebop1176]

Like she isn’t wrong tho

[@xxLittleCuteixx]

she didnt even say she was the only good person lol

[@stitches8296]

@@dreamdesk7258 Nah. I may be in minority, but I never liked Connie. There were a few too many times she was wrong in the original series, and she never apologized to Steven or anyone else. So to me, Connie was just as fallible as everyone else, if not more so.

[@movedtoanotherchannel]

Theory: the reason why spinel is *W A Y* to happy and her character was ruined and she acts like she's on drugs is because Rebecca sugar and spinel was secretly on drugs i rest my case Edit: guys please this is a joke comment-

[@astelerodite8332]

she's uh court jester that's why

[@cardboard758]

@@astelerodite8332 r/woosh

[@astelerodite8332]

@@cardboard758 that makes no sense because court jesters act like they’re on drugs anyway

[@cardboard758]

@@Raya-ir4tm *✨J o k e✨*

[@RushedToma]

DRUGGSSS

[@thaliagarcia6937]

Considering all the trauma Steven carries with him, that he literally experienced as a KID, I think that future had the right idea to represent how this is taking a hold on him now that he’s older. It’s nice to see Steven finally realizing that he’s not okay and be rightfully upset with everyone. I’m also glad that future made all the other gems and connie realize how they could be selfish and neglectful towards Steven’s feelings and past. These were such great points to bring up in the show, expect it was just excited very poorly:/ there was not much development for Steven’s new feelings from the dug up pain, and the ending is just so….lame. If they could have put more time and effort to show Steven overcoming these issues, instead of him giving a temper tantrum in every episode then I feel that would have been so amazing for his character! I’d love to see Steven figuring out a way to fix his negative traits BEFORE the last episode. Steven universe future could have really been something to take away from if only the ideas were more connected and followed through.

[@sparkstudies1675]

Yes! Wholeheartedly agree. I did like how it ended but it did feel rushed and unfinished. This may have been more interesting to see the development afterward, and less of a waste of time! Very good point.

[@khanyacruz8032]

Rebecca Sugar said that she didn't just wanna show Steven overcoming his issues just like that. Every point that you bring up in this comment is happening only AFTER future. Rebecca Sugar said this herself

[@agustinmartinez6765]

@@khanyacruz8032 But like, we didn't really need to have Steven overcome his issues "just like that", at least an exploration of his inner proceses as he was going through the thick of it would've been much more interesting than what we got.

[@khanyacruz8032]

@@agustinmartinez6765 Steven never overcame his issues. What we got was just calming down his episode. After he leaves Beach City, there's still a chance he could still go all kaiju again. That hug didn't help Steven rid of his problems. That hug just helped Steven's meltdown but that doesn't mean there isn't a possibility he won't have another one

[@agustinmartinez6765]

@@khanyacruz8032 I know, what I'm saying is that she want to avoid Steven overcoming his issues "just like that", but in order to do that she ended up with something rather boring, instead of what could've been an interesting deep dive into his psyche. For me it feels like they could've started with his crisis a couple episodes before the finale so that we could properly explore whatever chaos was going through his mind, have him explore his feelings and end up with a basic resolution so that he gets out of said crisis, we don't have him overcoming everything but we get something out of it. In the show we got the crisis resolution, but it was a boring hug, leaving all the interesting stuff out.

[@a_lexybee]

I think you're misunderstanding that steven universe wasn't really about continuing with what happened in the movie and the original show but rather showing that he had serious shit wrong with him and he needed help and to learn how to fix it, even the episode you mentioned as a "filler episode" with rainbow quartz and sunstone wasn't actually a filler episode because it still dealt with that theme of figuring out how to cope with things and finding out how to manage everything because he realized he couldn't do everything like people expected of him and that episode with spinel, the whole point of that episode was to show that he and everyone finally realize that they couldn't just depend on steven because he also had problems but they couldn't help him because they all got their help *from him* and he couldn't exactly talk to himself because he didn't know how to help himself and in the episode after that steven is denying everything *on purpose* because he didn't properly learn how to cope with things, I'm gonna put a link to a video that I think really helps explain why he didn't ever learn how to actually deal with things (kzbin.info/www/bejne/apDZp5h6pdqeZ5Y)

[@mrax5570]

okay, if I'm wrong correct me. "Hey guys, try new things" "Hey man, I don't thank that's a good ide-" "shut up Amethyst" "oh my gosh, it wasn't a good idea, I gotta fix this" "I fixed it"

[@Layra1488]

Mr Flap Jack *THE END*

[@Nameless-zg1xf]

Credits roll

[@clipo-rama5615]

No u did wrong.. smokey fixed it not steven

[@ClancyTwoThirtyEight]

You do raise some valid points about there being a lot of filler episodes in the final season of the series I can sort of jive with that. Also, the shaving thing was kinda hilarious but could have been an animation error. Don't forget, this show is DEFINITELY familiar with animation errors (ex. character height scaling, Steven's right Flip-Flop showing up for a brief second in Everything's Fine after he lost it, etc.). However, I feel like Future does a really good job of resolving some of the bigger mysteries left unanswered from the main series, specifically all the Rose Quartzes getting un-bubbled and Pink Pearl's (Volleyball's) backstory and the exploration of the Reef (by the way I'm surprised you skipped over Volleyball considering it's one of the prime examples of showcasing Steven's guilt and trauma in correlation with turning into a Pink Super Saiyan). Plus, after Spinel's attack and the main series story conclusion, I was pretty happy with the story that Future had told because I wasn't really expecting a major threat level event to happen and was just excited for the story that the creators of the show wanted to tell. The best thing I like about Steven Universe (and Future) is that all episodes feel like they contribute to the next events in Steven's story. Even if most filler episodes aren't really that exciting or lower the quality of the show, I like how most of them are referenced in the upcoming episodes (besides Say Uncle obviously). For example, there are several instances of Buck Dewey wearing the Guitar Dad shirt (Steven prominently showcases the mirrored shades and T-Shirt cannon from that episode in his living room) and despite how much you hate Ronaldo (trust me, I hate him too) you cannot deny the fact that it's his constant badgering that he's one of the contributing factors of Steven going to the Moon to start learning about the chain of events of how he's actually Pink Diamond. I feel like we get wrapped up in the problems that this show has so much to the point where it dulls our senses to the quality of the storytelling that this show possesses. It does fall on its face sometimes (I REEEEALLLLY wish that Season 5 could've been a tense space adventure of Steven, Lars, and the Off Colors trying to get back to Earth while fleeing from the Diamond's Army instead of being a lot of filler) but when the show wants to tell a story, it executes it almost perfectly.

[@Freedom_Fun]

who else didn't like how stevens back got ripped in half and he turned into a big monster thing. it would have been better and smarter to slowly corrupt steven instead of making him blow up. that is my idea, what do you guys think?

[@hannabunny5566]

Also it just Looks Bad

[@Freedom_Fun]

@@hannabunny5566 yeah! and he is human and this big thing rips him from the inside out then everything just gets solved with a hug...why

[@Freedom_Fun]

@@axi2165 agreed, also how did he get clothes after turning back?

[@kenstorm707]

He didn't corrupt, he shapeshifted. That's why it happened all at once.

[@Freedom_Fun]

@@kenstorm707 ohhhh, that makes a lot more since

[@theinfantmetroid]

I mean, I didn't like future either, but a lot of this just felt so... nitpicky. Like yeah, future sucked, but it didn't suck because Steven "shaved" after shattering Jasper.

[@SomeGuyOnYT]

I feel like this happened SU crew: “hey we’re going end the show” CN: “no” SU crew: “ok how about another season?” CN: “and a movie” SU crew: “ok fine a movie too” CN: “and a rushed miniseries” SU crew: *”W h a t”*

[@therobloxfreak9252]

screw u

[@childmeat8115]

It was actually the other way around. The crewniverse wanted to do more for Future, but Cartoon Network rushed them about finishing it.

[@SomeGuyOnYT]

Child Meat No I think they wanted to end on the movie but they had to do future

[@SomeGuyOnYT]

The roblox Freak Shiver me timber’s I’m so sad

[@childmeat8115]

@@SomeGuyOnYT Oh, okay. I was just going with what I heard. Thank you for correcting me ^^

[@anti1training]

They didn't solve his PTSD, they found him a way to seek comfort This was the most realistic writing I've seen in a kids show... about alien gems

[@AnguishedMan]

💪🤓💪

[@willywompa9663]

realistic my absolute mf ass. go down to your local looney bin and do some character study. i’ve been twice, no two people have the same ptsd symptoms (if any at all) and SU recycled the same symptoms over and over and over and OVER. emotional dysregulation, flashbacks/panic attacks, unreasonable spouts of anger, blah blah blabbity blah. the only one i actually liked was lapis’ portrayal. ptsd is such a complex disorder. thousands of differing symptoms could have been portrayed. i dont even think they did the traditional “fight or flight” response shit. i dont remember seeing paranoia/delusions. no trauma-induced psychosis which could have been used to create some sick visuals. i mean even little things, like having negative responses to certain small things (example: panicking when you smell something that triggers your trauma area of the brain. in simple terms.) i hate that this show gets praised for dogshit portrayal of a disorder thats ruined my life along with so many others.

[@anti1training]

@@willywompa9663 Fam, many people who also have PTSD, felt the show did it realistically. I don't think you understand mental health, especially if you're saying I should go to the looney bin and do some character study as if everyone is the same. You only know YOUR experience. You do not speak for every single person whom has PTSD. Everyone is different and reacts differently. Not all PTSD is the same. There are different variants and not all symptoms will show everytime. There is no pattern and sometimes it stays the same for awhile. It's complex, not linear. Lastly I have PTSD as well, and I felt way too seen with this portrayal of PTSD. So is my experience fake? Don't gatekeep a disorder dude.

[@puppyproductions964]

Except no they didn’t?? Because he just exploded emotionally and then he hugged them. Then he left. What was the way to comfort? Because even if you say reaching out to friends and family he still didn’t learn how to do that before being forced to after reaching his limit, that’s highlighted in the finale. And what if he can’t go speak to them at some point, what then? You see how that doesn’t hold up?

[@colorsunivers7987]

some times its hard to seek hellp when u are going thro something and also he is seing a therapist

[@chance5944]

Steven should have moved out in the beginning of the show to work on himself and also to get away from the stress of little homeworld and driving through the states to learn more about the world and work on his flaws and trama.. Every episode he will be in a diffrent place. Discovering new people and gems, and making friends along the way.(This probably isnt the best plot but I would have loved to see this instead of steven universe future)

[@zannis5441]

does he not have a license?

[@Ashley-ro4xz]

Dang yeah I would’ve loved to see this

[@whitediamond5703]

If I knew how to make videos I'd try doing that

[@GloomyAnimates]

No.. we wouldn’t see anyone?

[@Hello-qv2fx]

@@zannis5441 Well he doesn't have an education either but that's not stopping him

[@changaming1275]

this took longer to make. probably because you didn't pay attention to the MEANING of SUF XD or just didn't pay attention to all the trauma poor steven went through in the show.

[@marashii]

this is 2 years old😭

[@Manikistired]

Nah this review is so not good man

[@Howaboutyes11]

RIIGHT

[@Howaboutyes11]

@@marashiiokay?

[@Nenette1234]

I understand your point about the plot getting a little rushed at the end, BUT I completely disagree some of the episodes being irrelevant to the plot I feel like the idea that Steven isn’t okay and he needs to understand that he doesn’t need to constantly be helping everyone and that he needs to be happy with himself is very prominent in the plot. Like I understand points like spinel, she def could of added to the plot in a great way but still the idea isn’t for someone to come and help Steven fix himself it that Steven needs to take a step back and listen to what he needs not other people.

[@ecto.astronomer6702]

Mhanene Diallo thank you for being the only understanding one idjffnfidkdnsjs

[@Jjarmyboy]

He hates all the filler episodes when they’re supposed to be closure episodes? I dont understand cus I loved every episode,

[@Nenette1234]

Jj Armyboy Fr like idk what they want. It’s not suppose to have this huge plot is just closure on his character AFTER all of the stuff that went down in Steven universe

[@ecto.astronomer6702]

Jj Armyboy Honestly, since episode 2 they were kinda implying the whole plot. Steven seemed so tied up to helping everyone and being dependent of them indirectly that I kinda deciphered the plot since early on. I thought it wasn’t like the greatest thing ever, but it was still very well made in my eyes ???

[@Jjarmyboy]

ecto.Astronomer I’m still watching it and why doesnt this guy know that Stevens powers fluctuate with his emotions, and is confused when he isn’t thinking straight during his mental breakdown

[@anidiot4992]

[Hydro]: *Big rant about SU* [Me]: "Sans has hair?"

[@latedawns1797]

S A N S

[@yoshee_ink6487]

...

[@SquirtleEatsAll]

Future's overarching plot is that steven is suffering with his trauma and ptsd, not every show needs to have a villain to physically fight

[@GamerGamerGamer77777]

yeah trauma that was never shown in the actual show and no one is saying that we need a villain

[@SquirtleEatsAll]

@@GamerGamerGamer77777 Half of this video is complaining about how future didn't have a villain

[@GamerGamerGamer77777]

@@SquirtleEatsAll actually it isn't how about you watch again without being biased towards the show

[@SquirtleEatsAll]

@@GamerGamerGamer77777 You're right. All of this video is complaining there's no villain in future and how there isn't an overarching plot because there isn't a new villain. Oh and blatant misrepresentation and disregard of what future and the main show setup as rules of the universe and character motivation

[@GamerGamerGamer77777]

@@SquirtleEatsAll kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3jZoGyMnbxlqs0 it's a video you shoul watch

[@calldio]

Funny fact: Steven is 2 years older than Connie. He was 16 and she was 14.

[@RandumChann3l]

💀

[@Manikistired]

Ruby convinced Steven to ask Connie to marry him this isn’t really Steven’s fault lol

[@lilysenpai8604]

Meh. I’ve seen worse gaps and Steven and Connie’s relationship got weird as hell in SU Future.

[@FRUITYAYUSO]

Not a horrible gap, considering they met when they were much younger and then grew up together. Even when they were kids, Steven seemed so much less mature than Connie.

[@DefinitelyNotYT]

technically hes just slightly more than 1 year older. when steven turned 14, connie was 12 and 3/4

[@radtadghostdad9077]

ok so I actually like how Greg dealt with the situation. You can hear him say "hay we'll get you more ice cream, heck lets have ice cream for breakfast." like he wants so hard to help and talk it out with him but has no clue where to star. trying to give him objects to make him happy. after a traumatic event I went threw in freshman year of high school my dad got me chocolate pie and got me new clothes. it never made me feel better but he's horrible and communication. where they mess up with this is Steven stops listening, its all from Steven's point of view which is what really messes with development of other characters. maybe its just because i love Greg idk.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I love Greg, but he was so out of character in Future. The whole thing about going to his old house made no sense; maybe if there had been any kind of hint or reference during the main show, it would have worked, but the episode just played out and was never spoken of again, just like Bluebird.

[@radtadghostdad9077]

@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 do agree his broken home life was out of left field

[@feraflauna3238]

+rad tad ghost dad-Greg is one of the few characters the show didn't manage to entirely ruin. Offering to have ice cream for breakfast is such a sweet, Greg way to try to handle a situation the best he can. During Keystone Motel, he was so patient when Ruby and Sapphire were having it out with each other. He gave them space and didn't mention anything about Sapphire freezing the hotel room or Ruby evaporating the pool. He invited everyone to breakfast. When Ruby destroyed the diner booth, he not only tried to salvage the situation by offering to take the breakfast to go but he paid for the damage to the booth, even when he wasn't a millionaire yet. Greg is a very sweet person. The writers when they don't know how to handle him morph him into someone pathetically dense. He had really nothing to offer about how he felt about Rose being Pink Diamond. He said he knew that Rose had her secrets and he respected that she did and she never had to be obligated to tell him. Which is sweet, but Greg has NOTHING to say to Rose? Over how she started a war that killed millions? Put the planet she claimed she valued most of all into complete jeopardy? Got humans kidnapped or killed due to her actions? Screwed around with Pearl and strung her along, even all but laughing that Pearl and Greg were competing for her attention. And gave up her essence to have a baby without consulting him to where she left him as a single dad, unsure how to raise a half-Gem, half-human baby? When Steven morphs into a giant at the hospital, Greg comforts him. All right, well and good. Except, the next or a few episodes later, Steven screams at Greg over his grandparents and actually calls Greg a bad father. F. . .U. . .To where Greg doesn't get hurt or pissed off about that. Greg gave up everything to give Steven a quality of life. He sacrificed so much, and so much of his own happiness, to make sure Steven had a good life. And Steven calling him a bad father. . .is WAY out of line. Greg just says, "I'm happy you're honest." Da fuq? If I told my parents that, no matter how much they loved me, they would either burst into tears or bust me up. Sniping that your loving parents are "awful" is one of the cruelest, most devastating things you can ever say to a parent.

[@DivineDEC]

@@feraflauna3238 I mean but yeah, he always offers to listen but that never happens. It's like he's like "we can talk about it" and then proceed to list off a bunch of items that he can give them. It's like so far in the series all he's ever had or given to people is either space or money, and that's about it. Sure he doesn't know how to handle any of it, but it doesn't seem like he's learned how to either. Like the entire time he's like I don't understand gem things and then just leaves it at that instead of trying to understand them.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@feraflauna3238 Yeah, that was pretty sweet. It wasn't helpful, but I appreciate the Gesture, Greg. :)

[@emmao1232]

Honestly it got too dark for me. It put me in a bad headspace and the only reason I finished it was because I've been watching the show every since the very first episode and I wanted to see how it ended. I HATED the way it ended. I wish i never watched future to be honest, the ending of season 5 was a better end to the series.

[@Hydroshott]

True

[@cadequillion5276]

I mean, I respect the fact that you personally didn't like it. People have different tastes and that's a fact. But I actually loved how they got dark. As someone with mental illness, the feelings attributed to stress, PTSD, and anxiety aren't something that can be portrayed through metaphors as the OG steven universe did. Spelling out how dark those feelings can leave you and saying "You need to talk and get help" is the best way of going about it. Sure the plot could've been tighter and the rainbow episode was weird, but I think they addressed the main theme they were going for and gave it a great resolution. They even showed that his problems weren't solved with a simple solution and was doing therapy to get a little better with time.

[@Jdudec367]

@@cadequillion5276 agreed! also www.reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/fpkywr/stevens_trauma_is_my_trauma_after_3_failed/

[@Tater_Toot]

The ending of season 5 was rushed and meaningless feel good plot.

[@gaminganimators7000]

@@cadequillion5276 I'm okay with kids shows getting dark but they didn't portray mental illness and other stuff like that very well in the show and movie

[@spookyboiii8181]

when you said he shaved, it wasn't true, in one episode of the normal series they said his body was changing the way he felt, so when he trained he had a beard because he felt like he was an adult.

[@dakar6667]

@@nectarium8760 I don't think it was. I think his criticism was that Steven's whole look just changed instantly, but as coolzi pointed out, Steven does that a few times

[@xxLittleCuteixx]

@@nectarium8760 I dont think it was a joke, I genuinely think the creator of this video takes shit way too seriously

[@averagebriarmain]

"she acts like shes on drugs" blue's clouds are pretty much drugs so your not wrong

[@julianasohmer6176]

Steven universe wants to talk about mature topics, but they never execute them in mature ways.

[@humanleader184]

Well said

[@jg3825]

It's a children's show. I like it anyways it's one of the few shows that actually knows how to talk about mature issues in a honest way. That's better than most shows that either don't talk about it or if they do it's always fixed in a happy way that isn't real and the character go back to normal like they aren't affected at all. I think that aspect is very underappreciated since that is a bigger issue in media where everything is put in this happily ever after way when that's not how the real world work at all. I think it's a pioneer in that way

[@julianasohmer6176]

@@jg3825 I get what you're trying to say, but it's sort of contradictory. As you said you prefer when shows don't talk about it only to solve it in a happy way where everything goes back to normal? That's literally what happens in SU:F. The whole PTSD thing? I know they say Steven has a therapist now, but the entire handling of PTSD was honestly disgusting. (I would know, I've been diagnosed and treated for it myself. ) I would prefer a show not talk about mature subjects if they can't resolve them in a mature way, otherwise you muddy the water even further regarding whatever subject you're trying to handle. I'm sorry if this comes across as rude, that was not my intention.

[@micalzoncillo249]

@@julianasohmer6176 it's a kids show bro. you are supposed to chew down the information for them. 5 year olds watch this stuff

[@azaelblackrose9468]

@@julianasohmer6176 While I agree with you, I knew about SU:F to be cut by cartoon network and their development of the plot as well. If it's fast or just not clear enough, while it's a kids show and there's mental illnesses in the plot, more time with CN would be enough to do it better than they did.

[@mintystarmagic]

Steven universe has so much magical potential when it first started. The inconsistent art style, excess filler episodes, and lack of character development were perplexing :( I don’t get why this video has so much hate, it’s a good analysis

[@fetaup9293]

I agree. The ideas introduced in the first season gave me hope for a show with a comprehensible story, yet... while there are some things I admire about it, the entire show is derailed with inconsistent characters + confusing plotlines that don't go anywhere as well as too much time spent from Steven's perspective (i.e. everything plot related not involving Steven gets zero screen time to be fleshed out). It is a shame.

[@G0lden07]

@Layla Goodon-Witter Why what's wrong with season 5? It was good. The entire show was good until they ruined one of my favorite childhood cartoons with that crappy future.

[@fantasyhq3553]

@Layla Goodon-Witter it was rushed

[@leah595]

Same, steven is my childhood, it's stupid he just posted a video saying "whY steven unIverse is a bAD show" like dude, that's the worst opinion I've heard bruh

[@G0lden07]

@@leah595 you do realize he's talking about future not the original series. This video is not stupid it's just telling facts. The entire future series was a waste of time however the main show and the movie were really cool

[@serenahopeisabella2226]

Greg says "I'm proud of you" on purpose. it's supposed to show a different perspective of Steven's life without boundaries. His dad is healing from his childhood being destroyed by strict unsupportive parents but in the process is hurting Steven who feels a need for security from his dad. Steven now sees his dad as a child, something he never thought his dad of before that moment.

[@minastwiight2113]

You know that a real person who never got support from their parents, when their kids tell them that everything bad that happens to them are fault of his parents, they don't go: "I'm proud of you". They go from "What did you say?" To a growing anger and sorrow because not only their parents don't trust in them, but their kids are blaming them even if they try to help them and leaving them alone to not bother them and get them more problems. Gregs words are forced, and you may say "But his character never showed him like an aggresive person", thats true, but, do you really think that there is someone out there that never got angry? That was the perfect moment to show a more human parent that has feelings and cares about what people think about him AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, that he could have gone really emotional with the situation being that his own fucking son almost kills him after yelling and rubbing at his face that everything bad that happens to him is his fault. The "I'm proud of you" does not make sense, and there's no way you can defend it because the situation almost caused a tragedy, and it doesn't even work to feel sorry for neither of them because one does not care and the other doesn't do anything about it. It's just bad writing and it's not "intentional", just quicked up.

[@MistaFinni]

@@minastwiight2113 I think the part you missed is that "I'm proud of you" also caught Steven off guard. It's not at all what Steven was expecting because he expected EXACTLY what you expected and instead Steven got "I'm proud of you." That's why the end of the episode is Steven ignoring his dad and deleting a picture of him.

[@minastwiight2113]

@@MistaFinni How does that affect what I said?

[@kimk3060]

@@minastwiight2113 yeah, it makes it seem like greg doesn’t actually understand what steven is trying to communicate, and only focuses on himself and what he went through as a kid

[@hinamatsuro1908]

They almost died though