Hype vs Reality - Keychron K2 Keyboard Review

[@rezaebrahimi9807]

You’re literally the one reviewer that discussed wrist strain, great review and attention to ergonomics. Most reviewers focus on switches and context around that.

[@toniwonkanobi]

Yeah. I appreciated that. Is there a similarly nice-looking keyboard out there which has better ergonomics and maybe isn't as flimsy feeling with the keycaps?

[@_nmd3758]

TaeKeyboard did a review that mentioned that

[@rezaebrahimi9807]

Anthony Craig ended up buying the keychron K1 low profile red witch mechanical keyboard. I love the clacking sound it’s for home use so if you’re planning it in the office it’s pretty audible and as for ergonomics it’s wonderful minimal strain

[@ApexierGS]

"Switch and Click" mentioned that and every other Keychron keyboard as it they have a 5 degree incline as opposed to a more normal 7 degree incline on their keyboard. I cant justify why Keychron went with a shallower angle the only reason to justify a shallow angle is if they decide to go with uniform profile DSA or XDA profile keycaps rather than, curved profile Cherry-profile or OEM-profile keycaps which are known to have a staggered rising profile to the top of the keyboard as compared to the bottom row.

[@jnazor]

It’s bad ergonomics to rest your wrist whilst typing. It’s a bad habit.

[@TruthReviews]

Finally an honest and open review that doesn’t only give a “this is great and nothing else to be said “ approach.

[@Sam_Mitch]

@Julius Kelvin i don't give a damn

[@sabriahabbas8714]

honest is expensive on youtube

[@essa4553]

@@sabriahabbas8714 very profound statement-love it

[@gwho]

i hate those reviews lol. better to say "this sucks, and here's why"

[@MaximumEfficiency]

but he didn't really say anything - it's just a regular keyboard...?

[@gvetri18]

I'm using this keyboard everyday since December as a developer and writer so I write a lot. And I never got any issues I have it with Bluetooth in Windows, Manjaro and macOS. I have the alluminum version. It works for me. Good review by the way

[@joaocarvalho2291]

I need one for the same purpose. Which switch are you using?

[@gvetri18]

@@joaocarvalho2291 Hi i'm using the brown switches those are the best for the offices.

[@andresreyes8509]

I use exactly the same Operating Systems so this comment was like gold for me, lmao. How has it hold its ground over the last two years?

[@gvetri18]

@@andresreyes8509 still working as the first day. Very happy with it.

[@andresreyes8509]

@@gvetri18 thanks for your answer!

[@jamakasis18]

"Guys our keyboard's too fat" "Jon, get that plank from over there"

[@hehaskillaura_4593]

"and make people pay for it some big money"

[@kevanmorinphoto]

Damn, that transition on the sideview profile...that was smooth.

[@lauens]

Time stamp??

[@lauens]

@@user-op8fg3ny3j thank you!

[@99luan99]

1.46 you are welcome

[@datboimike1555]

was that a crossfade?

[@Jason-ut8iu]

I'm very happy with the thickness of the K8 frame. I realize this review was for the K2, but I figured I'd post my thoughts because I too wondered how frame thickness would impact my experience. Ultra low profile keyboards often strain my wrists. Based on my observations from the video, my wrists and forearms are likely not as small as the author. I have the K8 which is even thicker and I enjoy it. I bought it because I like that I can connect my Mac, PC, and iphone to one keyboard wirelessly through bluetooth by just clicking the appropriate buttons. It is my travel keyboard. I use a logitech G915 as my daily driver, but I need to push it to the edge of my desk and adjust the desk height to ensure that the low profile doesn't cause wrist strain. It is funny how subtle differences like thickness in forearms, wrist bones, or other body mechanics can change a review from negative to positive.

[@SnowyNowak]

"There is a slight tactile bump that's not as pronounced as Cherry Browns" Implying that Cherry MX Browns have a pronounced tactile bump in the first place

[@mathewchen3847]

Seriously, you can hear the difference in if a switch is tactile or linear and lubed cherry browns just sound like linears

[@hannibalkim]

Cherry browns are like scratching than a bumb. Worst tactile named switch.

[@daniellombardi3670]

And implying that cherry MX are better than gaterons....like, their switches are so scratchy, I feel reds are almost more tactile that browns (although that is not hard)

[@ahmedt3807]

he should try zilents

[@369standrealfine]

Yeah lol I stopped after that sentence

[@raylake9527]

Thanks for the great review. I’m using the RGB K2 with aluminum chassis for a couple weeks now. Going mechanical was a huge leap from my $19.99 low profile Logitech. I do a lot of webexes via speakerphone and work in a home office with my wife which makes the loudness of this keyboard a real issue at times. It looks great on my black desk and the lighting options are cool but not entirely practical. The height of the keyboard has been tolerable so far and no wrist issues but reaching the top row means repositioning my hands. It was a challenge to figure out how to connect multiple devices to this keyboard via Bluetooth but I’ve got that dialed in now with a worktop laptop accessed via Fn+1, home laptop via Fn+2 and iPhone on Fn+3. The text for the switches on the side is very hard to see but now they are in muscle memory so not an ongoing issue. For my setup I would’ve preferred the USB C power jack at the rear or right side. I like the smaller footprint of this keyboard since it gives me some desk surface real estate back. I’m keeping it for now

[@jaxx1360]

with like 50 bucks you can make it completely silent. With 17, you can still make it pretty quiet, just get some quiet switches, like some cheap Gamakay Phoenix switches. They are simple to assemble, just look up a quick tutorial on changing mechanical keyboard switches.

[@justauser]

I'm glad you mentioned wrist strain. The V2 verison aims to fix this, it would be nice to see an updated review!

[@davidguo1829]

Bought one of these as my daily workhorse keyboard about two months ago, and wanted to share my own experience after watching this video. 1. Thickness. Agreed that it's too thick. Highly recommend getting a palm rest, or if you are cheap like me, using a rolled up towel :-) 2. Switches. No complains. I've used cherrys before on some high-end keyboards, and the Gateron browns on my K2 stack up well. 3. Inconsistency. Doesn't bother me. The inconsistency might be noticeable when doing a keyboard "review", but in reality, you're mostly likely to be focused on what you're doing on the screen, rather than letting you ear be annoyed by the sound difference between the enter key and the space bar. 4. Price difference between official site and Amazon. I was shocked at first too. Then I realized the price on the site doesn't include shipping, while Amazon has free (or close to free) shipping. So it all evens out. 5. Battery life and Bluetooth connection. Good enough that I don't even think about battery life or Bluetooth connection. Overall, let's just say it's several millimeters away from being the perfect keyboard in its price range.

[@codyfournellcsrf5164]

so I use bt. Headphones and mouse... Would this cause issues with any of them? I'm scared of dropped connectiom

[@aloats]

I own the K2, and I personally really enjoy it. I haven't had any issues with Bluetooth connectivity with any of my Windows devices, whether it be my desktop, laptop, or Android phone. I have the RGB version, and the battery life has been outstanding thus far. It's lasted even longer than the advertised spec. One thing I really like about Keychron is that the developers listen to their customers and improve upon the firmware of their keyboards accordingly. The K2 has increased in functionality over time through firmware updates based on customer feedback. I own several mechanical keyboards, and the K2 is actually among my favorites. To each their own, I guess...

[@johnstjohn4705]

Nice review. I liked the K2 so much, I got a K4, and I have a K6 on order. I recently transitioned to mechanical keyboards from Apple keyboards. I'm 75, and I was starting to hit adjacent keys and making double taps too much. I blame the big chiclet keys with not enough space between the keys...for me at least. I learned touch typing on a manual typewriter, and if the teacher caught you resting your wrists, you were in big trouble. Times change and I got into the habit of resting my wrists. I'm actually enjoying holding my hands up as I learned to do so long ago. I did build a riser out of Legos for the K4 to give it more tilt. I'm loving my Keychrons, and my typing is improving.

[@heshamkisher6523]

Glad you're enjoying it! I'm pretty much the same in the sense that I'm also fine with my hands floating above the keyboard but I do have the palm rest on order (my first palm rest was the Logitech one that I used with their MX Keys and I love it!). Your idea with the lego is genius!

[@hm5800]

You seem to have this preconception that Gateron switches are Cherry MX clones, therefore they are worse. Which is so far from the truth. Most people would actually say Gaterom switches are equal if not better than Cherry MX switches in general. I think you're just subconsciously affected by the brand name as Cherry MX is sort of the "standard" outside the MK enthusiast community.

[@Yt-qi9ot]

I like cherry better than gateron. Less finger fatigue.

[@dasdadasdasd4917]

@@Yt-qi9ot you may need a bit lighter switches, it has nothing to do with a brand

[@SpeedBuff420]

​@@Yt-qi9ot just shows how much you dont know about switches.

[@neettim]

I had my K2 for a while now and my wrists are constantly being stressed. I wanted to see if others had an opinion on it because this keyboard was so popular. Thanks for your segment on it!

[@senget]

Got the K2 red switch when it first launched on Kickstarter. Initially that thickness did turn me off but I eventually got used to it, without a need for wrist rest.

[@StrangerDanger352]

How's it so far ? Would you recommend me buying it?

[@Quantickzz]

Hey, havent watched a video from you in a long time, just wanna congratulate on your weight loss. You look amazing and inspire all of your viewers to follow in the same footsteps. Great job!

[@simonholmqvist8017]

"There is a slight tactile bump that's not as pronounced as cherry browns..." r/mechanicalkeyboards: "You son of a...!

[@Donbros]

:DDD do non enthusiasts know what tactility is?

[@juultoo]

@@Donbros no

[@simonholmqvist8017]

@@Donbros Mech keyboard beginner: mmm... love this tactility. Enthusiast: Uh, you mean scratchyness, rigth? btw, I'm writing this on a ducky cherry brown keyboard

[@Donbros]

@@simonholmqvist8017 cherry switches: you want clicky feel but hate clicky switches, you choose brown and understand that it scratchy red, so you get red expecting it not to be scratchy and feel that it is not smooth XD basically if you are into linears cherry here at least have some unique keys options like black, silver speed or silent red/black. Brown is the only choice if you are only into tactiles

[@darkripjaww]

@@Donbros What about Clears?

[@Rob_Mike_Litterst]

Repeating things already said but I like the fact that you aren't focused on the "gaming aspect" or in other words "light show" & actuation point of the switches.

[@jjamald1]

Returning mine after 2 weeks, for all the reasons you mentioned.

Didn't notice the band aid until you mentioned it...

[@vinicius401]

Same

[@mattbmxer]

I read your comment and then made it my mission to find the band aid before he mentioned it. Mission failed.

[@glennismade]

A lot of the complaints you list (not being cherry, click/squeeky enter key, hight, brown switches etc) are actually not issues with the board. But, rather enthusiast level details. Cherry are not worth the money in my opinion. Like at all, Gateron are great switches and are great value for money. The squeak is purely down to stabilisers not being the best and are simple enough to replace and/or loop up. The switches are are entirely personal preference. (as are key caps). So, I hate to say this, but comparing a custom board form Keychron or Idabao etc with a G-SKill is a little iffy.

[@Cinekeysbytommy]

2:17 It's the little details that count. We all appreciate your hardwork guys ! (I'd like to know how you did that)

[@smallaluz]

Its a fairly simple morph transition (can be done in vid editors like sony vegas after effects etc)

[@glitchlife4639]

I have been using the K2 for a couple of weeks now, I switched over from the razor black widow 2 (75% version) the black widow is larger. I love it, and the foam palmrest I already have works perfectly.

[@dannywinget]

THICC BOI

[@hiddenwolfstudios3754]

lol

[@0xVeniVidiVici]

"Some serious strain on my wrists." That's what she said!

[@officialtallant1174]

?????

[@ryblob9119]

THICCCCCCCC

[@Umbruh_Prime]

1 year later with translations, this says "ok boi" lol

[@krmendez8]

I just got mine but I'm returning it. If you read about the customer service experiences your jaw will drop. One dude posted that they wanted to send him a replacement switch and said that he would have to solder it on. Incredible.

[@karltaht2370]

I really like these incoming keyboard reviews. I was skeptical since there are several keyboard enthusiast channels, but you guys are doing a good job. My only critique is that I think that Cherry MX are really middle-of-the-road. There are worse switches, but there are also a lot better ones imo.

[@Scrofitto]

I'm a total noob when it comes to mech keyboards, could you tell me what are considered to be better switches? Thanks

[@MiloKolb]

Parabellum all gateron and kalih are better because they are smoother and have better options

[@neoperol]

@@Scrofitto There are too many switches I wouldn't say that there is a better switch, all brand are different even clones of Cherry sound a bit different and a tactile switch of one brand will feel different from the same offer of another brand. You have to pick your flavor. The one thing I can tell you that is universal are the stabilizers at low prices the mayority are crap and they will make your big key (Space Bar, Enter, Shift) sound like crap and it won't matter which switches you use. In this video he is praising the G.SKILL KM360 because it has Cherry stabilizers too which make it sound really nice.

[@karltaht2370]

@@Scrofitto I find Kailh Box style switches to be some of the best. kailh box reds, for example are silky without even lube. Box Royals and Navy's are way more tactile than browns as well. Buy a key switch tester from kbdfans and try some out! It's only like $10 and is eye opening

[@FunFreakeyy]

My experience: I have the K4 (the bigger one with a numpad) with Gateron Yellows, the metallic reverb isn't audible, only if I smash the spacebar and hold my head 10cm away from it, so it's no problem from a normal distance. I've about 20cm/8 inch large hands, from middle finger tip to wrist, and the height is no problem, but I don't rest my wrist that much, I'm using my forearm. For the connectivity, works with Android (in Win/Android mode) and Linux (in MacOS mode), don't know about Windows. So your concerns are legit for a lot of people but under my circumstances no problem. The only thing I'll do soon is lubing the switches for the known benefits.

[@SomeGirth]

I'm not understanding the fascination with cherry. My gat browns are better than every cherry switch I've tried.

[@wombit]

reply above me is definitely the type of person to buy a mac

[@widow3151]

i love my gat reds!

[@hrvojekrsnik6572]

For starters even gat are naming their switches according to standards Cherry set. Cherrys were the original that started the mechanical keyboard craze and for the longest time were the only real choice as nothing really came close. Only in the last few years we've seen other manufacturers coming up with decent switches of their own. No wonder people still consider them to be the golden standard. You can be pretty sure every company making their own switches are comparing themselves to Cherry.

[@wombit]

@@hrvojekrsnik6572 tldr

[@melissadelonghi6131]

@@wombit Five sentences is too long for you to read? OMFG, that's just sad.

[@Michael-pg7rv]

The BT on this board is actually flawless. I got it set up with 2 devices in like 2 mins with no hiccups.

[@asterisk4424]

I love the form factor, I love that it's wireless, I like the overall look of the build, but all I need is hot swap-ability because I refuse to use anything other then my khail box jade switches. I can never go back.

[@AndriasKosasih]

Got the blue switch Keychron K2. The first unit they sent me had actually a defective key. I had to smash down the key for it to work. They send the replacement immediately including all shipping costs by them. Don't think it is quite fair to compare it to GSkill KM360 wired keyboard for $50 considering Keychron K2 is both wireless and wired. I got mine for $59.20 during Black Friday sale. This is my first TKL keyboard. I have to say I am quite happy with it. The main attraction for me is that this is wireless and the perfect keyboard for my HTPC. Yes it is quite fat, but I tried gaming with it and it feels fine. No windows Bluetooth connectivity issues.

[@amadorosendo6949]

Hey guys, people that are thinking of getting this keyboard, do not get scared of this review or change your mind. The company has made changes to the keyboard build and it is a lot slimmer. :)

[@Angryjenkinsdigital]

white backklight, brown mechanical switches, I'm a happy camper. Wrist rest is DEFINITELY a necessity. I own a fluffy one for gaming sessions, considering the sleek wooden k2 one though.

[@Bensonisalsobenz]

Nuclear Nadal! You've done your dream job since Aladeen abandoned you! Great content! keep up the good work!

[@happyheartslee]

KEYCHRON K2 :Just dropping by to contribute my review after seeing so many reviews on youtube and i finally got one. I am a newbie in mech keyboards. So this is my first one after going through so many videos and finally deciding on this one. PERFECT. I really like this keyboard, typing on it right now. It charges well, connects well and just wonderful to type on. I use it for programming and normal tasks,no gaming. So for people like me, it is perfect! Previously I was all out Logitech and I though they were the best, I know now. This is better! But it is heavy. I got the aluminium base. So i dont think it is suitable to take outside.

[@adamchatko]

I'd really be interested in the details about your custom Varmilo keyboard... looks awesome! :)

[@simont3686]

My K4 is awesome. It is angled, Bluetooth works perfectly and the sound is really good with the packaging foam inside the frame. The Stabilizers came generously pre-lubed and sound great. Sadly I have the same problem with the brown switches tho. Some had a hard bump, some were scratchy, one had a loud spring reverb, and some even were squeaky. I kinda made it better by switching switches to and from different locations so all important sub-groups sound the same.

[@stephenwang7239]

I bought the K4 (brown) and am loving it! I don't feel an issue with the height at all, switching from the Razer Blackwidow V2. I guess it is up to personal preference at the end of the day

[@blipojones2114]

also just ordered k4, very excited

[@DeckerFI]

Biggest thing for me is that theres no battery indicator. And when it dies, you can't just plug it in and keep going. It won't even work as wired kb until the battery has some charge. Battery life is excellent though. Only other note I have is that wrist strain is indeed immense. A good wrist support solved that right away but I never needed one before.

[@AhanuWoW]

As a long-time user of the Keychron K2 mini, I’ve got some insights to share! 🎉 Keyboard Height: Personal preference matters, and for me, the laying the keyboard flat with the bulky profile works just fine. 🙌 Bluetooth Performance: My Bluetooth experience was solid, with only minor gameplay lag. Not a deal-breaker! ⚡ Backlighting Choices: White backlighting is classy, but my inner ADD leans toward the colorful options. 🌈 Keycap Sets: Standard keycap sets enhance the overall experience. I’ve rocked PTB white keycaps, creating a mesmerizing light show! 🌟 Sleek Aesthetics: My current build features PTB Black keycap low-profile caps-sleek and sound-improved! 🎵 Noise Dampening: O-rings on the stems work wonders for reducing metallic clatter. Budget-friendly fix! 🔇 Switches: I’m a red switch fan, but considering brown switches for backup. Always good to have options! 🔴🔵 In summary, the Keychron K2 is a fantastic board, especially if you love customizing keycaps. And yes, hot-swappable switches are a game-changer! Which I believe Keychron carry keyboards with this layout and profile that have Hot-Swappable switches.🤓🔥

[@thegirthquake8574]

My tofu may want to contend for thiccest board. Also >Custom >Varmillo Pick one. Varmillo are some of the best prebuilts you can buy, so no guff there, but still.

[@nickbanderson]

Tofu gang

[@mackaycreative6336]

Varmilo still a cheap board. What of it.

[@therion961]

I've got a Keychron 2 v2 and it is a great keyboard. Very happy with the purchase. Not uncomfortable at all to type, love the RGB. Very pleasant keyboard. Could it be possible that you are biased toward other companies?

[@JechtNH]

Could it be possible that two human beings have a different opinion?

[@therion961]

@@JechtNH outrageous! Lol

[@antonyserralta]

I bought it like a week ago and I'm really please with my purchase. I used to have the Drevo Calibur V2 with outemu brown and I think that switching from outemu to gateron was really nice and also the plus of have it a wireless is just nice. I haven't noticed much of the sounds of the switches because I always use my headphones. I have noticed that the keyboard is a little bit tall, but it help with my ergonomics because it forces me to sit down straight. To summarize: I love the keyboard I just need to change the keycaps but it's hard to find ones that fits the keyboard right side and it makes it harder to live in Mexico.

[@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV]

I've been looking for a keyboard with mechanical switches that focuses on hygiene. One that has dirt-proof switches and no cutouts on the mounting plate, not even for the stabilizers. With floating keys, so you can blow it out daily and easily disinfect it weekly, when removing the caps. I can't believe that there are so many custom keyboards, but nobody is pushing for that. The clostest I've found to date is the Razer BlackWidow Lite.

[@trash3570]

I would recommend the kailh box switches, they are ip56 rated. Any floating key design would be able to be blown out pretty easily and if you are just using lysol wipes to clean the backplate the you should have no issues

[@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV]

@@trash3570 Thanks. That looks like it would be the right type of switch for a hygiene board. That just leaves open the question of a completely closed and gapless mounting plate and stabilizers that can be mounted on such a plate.

[@TomBerghuis]

What's the keyboard you were comparing it to? Do you have a review of it?

[@msdebruin.]

G.SKILL KM360

[@nuxar8778]

@@msdebruin. Thx :D

[@oscarbarrios]

totally agree, I preordered this keyboard and after using it for a week I sold it, it was good on paper but the execution left me wanting something more. Went and bought a Velocifire instead, not the same flexibility of connectivity but a much more solid keyboard.

I bought one in their Kickstarter campaign, and I have to say that the biggest complaint I have is regarding it's height. After a week my wrists were hurting badly. I was only able to use it after buying a wrist rest. In overall I am very happy with it. Specially as it is one of the few mechanical keyboards that offer Mac keys (really actually following the Mac layout). They're not awesome, but very good for the price, imho.

[@REVENANT310]

Which wrist rest did you get?

[@Excal111]

recently got myself a K2 to replace my Razer Ornata Chroma V2 because im working toward building out a full wireless peripheral setup. Not sure if i got a newer iteration of the keyboard since mine has a slight angle without the legs extended, might just be because ive got the RGB version. Personally I love it, its very small compared to the Ornata and fits my playstyle for games perfectly, i tend to have my mouse on a very low DPI so i happen to make a lot of large movements. So far the only issue ive got with it, and its more of me than the keyboard, is that the spacing of the keys is just a bit different than the Ornata so i tend to make more mistakes or tap two buttons at the same time when typing. I do agree that a wristrest is probably something that most people will need if theyre going to be using it for typing or extended gaming sessions. love the review, keep it up!

[@varsas]

Interesting review, looks like they might have addressed the profile issue in v2 and other models. What are the alternatives wireless mechanical keyboards in the same price bracket?

[@ALNNN024]

I do have the keyboard but didn't had any issues with BT or with the height of itself, might because I have big hands, nice feedback there and maybe they listen to customers like you said .. I have the brown gatereon / white lights and I'm pretty happy with it 😊

[@NeoChromer]

Typing this on a keychrone, its just awesome! Using on mac and windows.. love it

[@frieddayfriday]

just got my k2. been using ot for a week now, gaming and typing.i dont have any of those metallic reverb. but the space bar and back space sounds different which i really really like. more deeper tone. kinda makes a harmony when im typing. =) on BT mode i didnt feel any delay while playing games. fps games like valorant csgo and apex. and i gotta say i have my doubts before buying it but gateron browns is good! it feels like 70% linear, 30% tactile! its smooth! i like it more now than my cherry reds and browns! the thickness doesnt bother me at all since im used to it. edit: im using V2.0 btw maybe that's why i wasnt complaining on how thick it is.

[@smigglesmiggles614]

Could you review the latest version? They added an incline to the keyboard and I was wondering if it made much difference.

[@mutedfuture]

I use this keyboard with my gaming PC and I love it. I do agree with the wrist rest though if you're getting this keyboard get it with a wrist rest because it sits high.

[@NaveTGT]

Nothing against you, Ibra, but I have some stuff I'd like to mention. As the main man to review keyboards on the HC channel, I'd like you to try out different options that you haven't, because by the looks of it, you are lacking some knowledge that could elevate this video and plenty of future videos you'll make about keyboards. Mainly, I'm talking about callouts like such: 7:34 "Traditional Cherry switches" is a mention that has practically lost it's meaning within the keyboard community a while ago (although a lot of us love some of the Cherry switches), and it started to lose its meaning last year with practically every other keyboards manufacturer either making their own switches, like the Romer G and Razer's switches, but with others going with different options like Kailh switches and Gateron. Also, most of the most praised switches from the community are somewhat Gateron based like Zeal's switches that use the Gateron housing, or the currently very popular Gateron Inks. Heck, one of the best stock linear switches is the Kailh x NovelKeys Cream switches. 7:50 Your preference is your preference, but I'd love a video that explains your experience with keyboards and switches, because as far as I remember you've never uploaded a video of any 'premium' switch. Saying that, maybe give a go to a completely custom one or a build using a hotswap board or something, check out some TaehaTypes videos or something and learn new things that you could share with the audience. I'd love to watch that! 8:07 You're calling out a squeak or something - Would that be just the switch spring sort of echoing because they use Cherry profile switches on a pretty much huge hollow space within the case as far as I know (although if this is a retail version of this keyboard, expect some lesser quality switches, that'll happen with Cherry and Kailh as well because not every single switch is perfect). Also, you're comparing several keys without mentioning the stabilizers at all, might be lack of lube or a lower quality stabilizer that causes that as well. 8:30 If you'd tell someone that you have a wireless, bluetooth, mechanical keyboard that has a 4000 mAh battery and charges via USB type C for 69 bucks, I'd expect them to understand the 'unbinned' switches. For this price point you're getting much more than most keyboards on the market. Reason I'm mentioning this is because I really like keyboard content. I've started this EXPENSIVE hobby a couple of years ago with the GMMK TKL that I've modded slightly to perform better and be quieter, and am slowly maturing it and getting closer and closer to my (hopefully) endgame set. Problem I have with the mainstream tech channels is that channels like yours, Jayz2Cents, RandomFrankP and even LinusTechTips is that while you do go for the mainstream angle and have the mainstream knowledge, if you could increase the info you can share to your audience, such as what Frank did with him diving into custom mechanicals and recently even Linus went ahead and made his own (and has some more videos on the way according to his FB), which could elevate this content, as it did in my opinion to one smaller channel by the name of BadSeed Tech. Typing this on a GK64S (99USD for a wooden case, aluminum plate and the hotswap bluetooth board with a 4000mAh battery) with currently Kailh Box Royals (around 55 bucks for 90 switches) until Drop ships the aqua Zilents and SA Miami Night (99USD)

[@AtomicBleach]

@NaveTGT exactly. Nice review of his review. lmao. But seriously comparing gateron browns to mx speeds and complaining about bigger key noise which is easily fixed by checking the grease on the stabilizer bars, just makes this review seem uneducated. Also thought it was strange that he didn't mention keychron's other keyboards, the fact that they have optical switches, and hotswappable boards now.

[@l33yo_30]

My thoughts exactly! There are things he pointed out that were not exactly for the lack of words, right, and things he missed or failed to mention that a more knowledgeable person likely won't.

[@mcgothbox1]

I love this thing but my application may not be 100% real world. I replaced a Apple magic keyboard that was about as thin as they come and was almost impossible to type on. My setup is a MAC mini attached to a Wacom 22 inch drawing screen on a rolling desk so i can draw in my arm chair. The Keychron works great for this as i have to have all things small and portable and as few connections as possible. The thickness is actually great as i have it on my lap to enter passwords and quick searches. My main gaming set up has a full size full rgb with cherry speed switches non wireless.

[@lamclaughlan]

Got one of these with the optical switches and was similarly disappointed with the consistency and feel of the switches. Sold it and bought a Glorious GMMK TKL with Gateron brown switches, and really liking that. I'm preferring how smooth the Gateron brown switches are, better than my ducky with MX browns.

[@chasedoe2594]

For me it's another story. I used to daily drive Cooler Master Pro L with MX Brown but one of the key went bad and Cooler Master replace me with MX Red RGB instead (they ran out of Blue and Brown). I couldn't bear the linear switch and I kind of need keyboard ASAP and most of the MX Brown keyboard in the market is either out of stock or the price is just crazy for pre-built. So I decide to try Gateron Brown (without trying it out due to covid thing). And TBH I hated it, I just too linear for me. I ended up switch back to MX Brown by order HP K10C from China and my Gateron Brown went back into its box.

[@RobCabreraCh]

I just bought a K4 from Keychron. I wanted the number pad for work, and I also wanted to keep the top row of mac specific keys. I'll be using mine with a kvm to jump between my iMac and my windows PC. I can't wait!

[@Dr_Aien]

Random comment but GOD DAMN the lightning of this shot at 6:17 is beautiful ! Well done Eber !

[@MyNameIs_Brandi]

I totally agree I switched back to my less popular yet more reliable, consistently clicky, & springy RK71 keyboard which I bought first. Now where can I sell this thing for $35 dollars or so to recoup some of this $99?!

[@ianmiller8502]

I'm not sure you can blame a keyboard for the relative heights of your chair and desk. Most fixed height chairs and desks put the keyboard too high for typing ergonomically. This is why the old school computer desks had a keyboard tray that was much lower than the height of a typical writing desk.

[@OFFLINEMK]

i came from a HP GK100 and for me this is one of the best keyboards ever, I think for the hight thing put it at the second adjustment where its not the highest on and not the lowest and for the thickness unless your traveling this shouldn't be a problem and even with that it is still smaller than TKl and full-sized so you got to love that. i think over all its a great keyboard but like he said if you come from low profile or a higher end keyboard (idk why u would degrade) its no the best but for new or starter this is a great keyboard

[@jcreek23]

I feel like this review went out of its way to find issues with this keyboard. Of course for good ergonomics you should be using a wrist support with a keyboard and have the legs extended to produce the best angle. In this configuration I have now used this keyboard for over a year and had zero wrist issues, which coming from someone very prone to RSI and similar conditions, is amazing. The switches are excellent for typing on, I have the same Brown variant, but personally I wouldn't use it for gaming, I prefer to use Red switches. The battery life is excellent, and I've had zero issues with the bluetooth connecting to any devices, including four different Windows PCs and Laptops over the last year. The RGB backlighting is excellent, easy to turn off in a more professional setting, or to customise to be less 'gamer-y'. The USB C port is recessed, which makes using other USB cables tricky sometimes, but other than that I have no complaints with this keyboard, especially for the price. I still prefer using my Vortex Cypher with MX Silent Black switches in the office, but for working from home the Keychron K2 with Brown switches has been an absolute delight to use. The media keys are great, the layout works well for me, despite being a UK user with a US keyboard, and it feels fast and satisfying to type on.

[@blackmennewstyle]

Hello guys from HardwareCanucks, just some warnings about the links in your video description, some of these links don't match with the products advertised... Keep it up the great job though :)

[@dstarr3]

Are you saying "Wal-Mart grey keycaps?"

[@a3ng25]

Even if he is...he said he loves them lol

[@PlatonsArm]

I have the aluminum RGB K2 with brown switches. The build is so good that I don’t need protection for the keyboard when carry it around in my bag. I just throw it in there with books and what have you. I’ve had no problems with it what so ever. And the batteries seem to last forever. Only problem I have is that the letters on the keys aren’t printed in the same exact place on each key. It’s not off by much, but it makes the keyboard look drunk. It also looks a bit boring. It seems to me they went for a Toshiba T-3100 look, but the orange key is off by a lot. It should have been less ”neon” and more of a brownish orange like the T-3100 orange plasma screen.

[@OverdriveTech]

"It starts at $69" Nice

[@DimiS1978]

Nice

[@simonholmqvist8017]

Nice

[@greendesign4773]

Nice

[@dertythegrower]

Nice

[@M18_CRYMORE]

Nice.

[@DannyLrides]

Just got my K2 from amazon. It came out to the same cost as it would have on Keychron’s website due to shipping chargers whereas I already have amazon prime.

[@Tennisfiles]

How do you like it so far?

[@rishabhsingh1403]

Can you share the link to your 'custom' Varmilo? Great key cap color combination. Thanks

[@remusb]

Great review! I think it's the first review to mention the ergonomics and the fact how much matters the height of the keyboard

[@BestindotechYT]

This keyboard is a good option for wireless mechanical keyboard for mac users. Probably not a good option for windows PC/Laptop user.

[@jellyplayz687]

Cedric Gall it’s designed specifically with mac in mind with mac function keys. It’s alright for windows, but the designers specifically made it for mac, with windows more as an afterthought

[@ngydat]

@@jellyplayz687 From Keychron website (on the K2 product page) : "Every K2 keyboard comes with 3 specific keycaps for Mac and Windows, respectively"

[@ngydat]

@@jellyplayz687 Also @3:48

[@jellyplayz687]

Dat Nguyen the keyboard comes, in the box, with the mac keys installed. It works with windows, but if mac keys are preinstalled, it’s pretty clear which one was the original intention and which one was the afterthought

[@ngydat]

@@jellyplayz687 true but if you can swap out the key caps + the presence of the switch on the left side of the keyboard allowing you to switch from macos to windows and vice-versa, it can't be that bad to use on windows

[@christianpedersen3237]

Keep in mind that the Keychron warehouse is in Hong Kong. It ships from there, and if you don't like the product, you're responsible for returning it to there. Which means, effectively, there are no returns. Keychron doesn't offer a return label, so you can pony out more money than you spent on the actual keyboard, trying to return it.

[@fsfaith]

I'm typing this with a K2 right now. I also have to RGB one and I got it on sale so I got it for cheap. Replaced the keycaps for some pudding keycaps to make the RGB look better.

[@dmg46664]

Disclaimer: I have this keyboard. As far as I can tell the Gskill KM360 is not wireless and on their website it's not clear if they have keys for Mac OSX. This is a useless comparison for seamless pairing with my Macbook pro at this price point and so I don't know why you make it!? My only critique being in the UK is I don't have a £ key (but OSX allows easy localisation switching via shortcut). Firmware upgrade is also worth it for Caps lock lighting, and lock lighting. The all cyan colour on my RGB version is dope (better than white). The green/blue indicator for battery check (Fn-B) is also cool, wouldn't give it up (although I the single colour apparently portions the rows which isn't bad). Not all keys are consistent as you point out, but over time I don't notice it (kind of like some keys being larger). As a coder I would like an API for controlling the lights on keys based on the app I'm using (Emacs...). I wrote to the manufacturers but they didn't respond. Well this is my daily driver, until something better comes along.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I was expecting more from this keyboard. Bummer to hear it hurts your hands so much. I will be picking up that ERGO keyboard from Logitech you all reviewed. Thank you for that. (:

[@donZeriouS]

Very good video. Very stable level of production quality across all of hardware canucks staff!

[@tatwo_]

11:10 Dollar shave club would have been fitting sponsor for this. :P

[@e21big]

lol

[@00Shaurya.]

Lmfaooo

[@h4ppydr4gon]

I own the K2 and really enjoy it. I agree you should get a wrist rest if you aren't a floaty typist and yeah, the stabilised keys are a tad soft, but in general it is a great typing experience. I don't feel any wobble when typing, but I will certainly check when I am at my desk. I absolutely love the compact form factor without needing multible layers. But I wish it had PBT caps.

[@AtomicBleach]

I don't have the K2 but Im rocking the K4 (numpad version). A thicker 0.75" wrist rest is a must. I haven't had any Bluetooth issues connecting to my PC, using a pcie wifi 6/bluetooth 5 card. You really should do a review on the k4/k6 which come with optical switches. Also saying cherry switches are superior to gateron switches when you have the brown switches is slightly petty. The issues you are having with the larger keys are just due to the support bracket bars needing more lube. Seems to be a QC issue. The hollow sound is indeed due to the large space behind pcb.. I had to lube my backspace and left shift key supports as the squeak was terrible. Also the white led version has less of the cool color tone that you were mentioning and more neutral.

[@jerome5969]

Keychron K2 Version 2 - issues are already addressed. This is a great and premium keyboard for the price.

[@gaweyn]

8:39 G.SKILL KM360? No bluetooth/wireless, totally different layout, why exactly does it come into your mind?

[@johnlvs2run]

Thanks to the recommendation, I'm looking at the KM360. Many people don't use and don't want a bluetooth/wireless keyboard.

[@EonityLuna]

Intending to pick up one of these as a replacement for my current Logitech K810 keyboard when that finally gives up the ghost. I really needed a Bluetooth wireless keyboard that has a 75% compact layout, had media keys, and was backlit, and the Keychron K2 was the only one that ticks all these boxes. Shame I'm not able to find a low-profile keyboard that fits these requirements as well (unless Keychron starts making a 75% version of their K1), and the thickness of the K2 is definitely rather concerning. Perhaps I might pick up a wrist rest for a 75%-sized keyboard if and when I do buy this keyboard.

[@jasonfoo660]

Always nice to see Hardware Canucks talking about mechanical keyboards. Keep up the great work!

[@Makav3ll1]

He had no idea what he was talking about

[@jasonfoo660]

@@Makav3ll1 lol

[@marksmod]

3:00 Protip: buy a piece of wood. It works and is considerably cheaper. And you can make it any size and shape you want with a hacksaw, sanding paper, varnish and some elbow grease. But a small piece of wood also works

[@LorenzBarcelona]

Careful with those wrist rests man, putting pressure on the median nerve can cause carpal tunnel

[@maxix545]

so is it better to not use one at all?? I've never used one and I don't have any sort of pain but my keyboards always've been really low.

[@LorenzBarcelona]

maxix545 better not to use one and if ever, a soft one would be better than a solid one. I think most ideal is that situation though with a low profile keyboard

[@5urg3x]

The G Skill keyboard that you mentioned has zero support for Mac OS or iOS devices, lol. Why even bring that up? It’s not comparable seeing as how the Keychron has specific support for every OS out there, including Android.

[@johnyle6906]

tactile feedback that's not as pronounced as cherry mx browns..."tactile" haha this post was made by the Zealios V2 Gang

[@frespects9624]

Box royals gang, literally any switch with tactility gang

[@szchietzmane6436]

@@frespects9624 even i prefer the scratchy unlubed Outemu Sky than browns lmao

[@treeleaf6471]

Johny Le this post was made by White Alps gang >>>

[@gagakserak3914]

you mean callous gang?

[@jkmorbo]

Thank you for pointing out the height issue. It's the only reason why I didn't buy it. I was so close to pulling the trigger but man that keyboard is just way too bulky.

[@hanes2]

Would love to see you guys review some more Varmilo keyboards in the future.

[@ratulsaha9487]

I have the K2 version 2. I fucking love this keyboard. Going from a 30$ mechanical keyboard to this is so great.

[@arupclassic]

What is that other keyboard you showed while comparing the thickness

[@mattbeiswenger8465]

He says it in the video "Varmilo TKL"

[@darandavis]

Those don't look like stock Varmilo keycaps though. Anyone know which set those are?

[@rossc7277]

I think not too many people really know true ergonomics. You should type floating your arms, (like a pianist) , not having to press your wrist as it will supress blood flow in your wrist. Remember, we have veins in our wrist, the reason you are hurting yourself. Keyboard should be lowered, not in same level as the table, in such a way your elbow is in 90 degree position. You may need to replace your table to achieve that. I had mine custom made.

[@nosleepcantsleep]

Yayayayay love the vids keep up the great work

[@bludangell]

Was on the verge of buying one of these having seen them across a number of channels. Clearly their PR bod has been earning their pay check! Time to reconsider me thinks...

[@rainingman338]

Sorry but you are not supposed to type with your wrist on the desk. Thats just not how it is done. You either raise your hands up completely, hovering over the keyboard or you but a wrist rest. You can only do the wrist on desk technique on Laptops or non mechanical Keyboards

[@rainingman338]

@@River_Miles even most low profile keyboards are very unhealthy...

[@jGRite]

I didn't notice the Band-Aid at all until the end. Keychron is dangerous if that happened during the time you were preparing this review. Hopefully when I get the K6 it'll be without blood loss. I also mentioned this video in the survey they emailed when I "backed" their K6.

[@szchietzmane6436]

> Cherry switches > Good switch Pick one, man

[@kitzybombflak]

Szchietz Mane him thinking that Cherry = quality is probably all in his head

[@szchietzmane6436]

@@kitzybombflak most people do think like that and that's sad

[@rynne7153]

Someone push this up!

[@ArcticFox_27]

@@szchietzmane6436 that's cause they are high quality, if you think that only zealios and inks are good then you're delusional.

[@szchietzmane6436]

@@ArcticFox_27 if scratchy and lack of choices are what u called high quality then sure mate

[@lance5299]

I got one from the Kickstarter. I didn't have any of the issues you ran into, but I did have the wrist rest from day one. Probably wouldn't pay the inflated amazon price, but as is, its one of my favorite keyboards even over my Das.

[@44Bigs]

What keyboard is that at 2:20? I could make it out

[@calebparikh8817]

I think it's a varmillo keyboard

[@cognition26]

They need need to make it thinner on the side closer to the person. If you type for long periods of time a wrist rest is required. They advertise aluminum case but the case is plastic reinforced with aluminum it feels solid but they are stretching that statement. Also hope they start selling their PBT keycap set separate so can put it on mine because the ABS ones do feel cheap. Great keyboard aside from that.