Hyundai/Kia portable EV charger (plus charger safety & buying UK granny cables)

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@GoGreenAutos 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comments and saying these are switchable. A bit of a boo-boo not including that information in the video. I never knew that and didn't notice the button on the back. Just tried and switchable between 6A, 8A or 10A. To be fair, I've only used one of these a couple of times, as I have 10 mtr granny cables lying around that I use.

@thathairyguy 9 ай бұрын

Luckily I had the foresight to ask if my second hand Ioniq 38 had a granny charger prior to purchase. I didn't have my commando socket at the time so needed that for a month or two. Turned out it didn't have one as you highlighted in the video can happen. I said I needed one so they did provide one at no extra cost thankfully. It worked just fine but is basically in storage now. Did its job though while it was needed 👍

@colinphillipson4830 9 ай бұрын

Hi Matt, as already mentioned it would have neen good while you were demonstraing the Hyundai ICCB portable unit that in the UK it has a switchable amperage button on the rear to Low (6A), Medium (8A) and High (10A). This amperage rate for the ICCB and the mains AC chharging can also be changed in the 38kWh menu settings.

@michaelgoode9555 9 ай бұрын

I have a 16 amp charger but it is used with a proper 16 amp commando socket and separately fused circuit. This charger is more than sufficient for our home use and we can also use this charger on UK campsites. Our used ev came with the granny cable and a 5m 32amp type 2 cable. I have a 10m 32 amp type 2 cable and the 16 amp commabdo cable so have never used the cables which came with the car.

@DavidJohnston58 9 ай бұрын

Was looking at granny lead reviews today as was thinking of one to leave in the car. Some of the "bargain buy" sites had complaints of melt downs and 3 pin plugs with no fuses. Think I'll just keep remembering to throw the decent house one in boot when we're away 🤔

@pollywollydo 9 ай бұрын

Think they missed a bet with that battery graphic 😕 ps worth mentioning if using an extension lead DONT leave any part still rolled up on its drum 🙀

@Mladjasmilic 9 ай бұрын

About EVSEs and their signalling: All they can 'tell' the car is how much Amps car can pull. And all car can 'tell back' is that it is connected, it wants to charge or it needs to charge with ventilation (which nobody uses now). There is no way to display how much battery is charged with that standard. CCS can display state of charge, but it uses much more complex signaling. Simplest charger can be made with 50€ control electronics (whichnis too much, can be made with less than 10€) and 20€ worth of relay. Rest is cable (2€/m), charing handle (about 25€), electric plug (3€) and a case (8€). The whole thing can be home made for about 120€.

@Lostoldman 9 ай бұрын

I run mine on 13 Amps all the time as I have a mini fan pointed very close to the plug base pins and also the wire. After a long charge the pins barely ever get warm. The socket is also wired direct to the fuse box with its own separate fuse.

@Rykko79 9 ай бұрын

The original Kia/Hyundai charger in EU is 12A version...

@MartinPedersenTM 9 ай бұрын

My service center put a rubber cover on mine. They said there were a ?TSB on it. Oh, and it's a high quality granny with a thermal sensor in the plug so you don't burn down your house. Most don't have that.

@dr.deborahkatharinestevens318 9 ай бұрын

Yes as for me also, at dealer service time, my "tortoise-charger" was fitted with a protective rubber jacket by the Hyundai service technician, the evidently somewhat fragile casing was in need of some added impact protection.

@Shan-outnabout 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for this information just checked on Amazon there are some 13 amp chargers out there 😮

@michaelcollins4094 9 ай бұрын

That Amp can be changed with the small black button on rear of the display box

@kvaks3000 9 ай бұрын

It seems they come in various versions. Mine has H, M and L settings, which according to the manual are 12A, 10A and 8A respectively.

@GoGreenAutos 9 ай бұрын

Yes mine did too, but I hadn't noticed the button on the base. See my pinned comment.

@tsphipps80 9 ай бұрын

Matt, not sure if yours is different to the one that came with my Ioniq (38) as although it looks identical, mine is switchable using a button on the back of the control box between 12A, 10A and 8A. Looks like yours has the same button...

@duneplodder 9 ай бұрын

My Ioniq (28kWh) granny cable charger is also adjustable though I think it's between 10A, 8A & 6A. It displays H, M, or L.

@ohyesitsme 9 ай бұрын

Yes, mine is also adjustable using the button.

@FFVoyager 9 ай бұрын

@@duneplodder yes, mine also has a rubber surround to protect it. Seems to have worked as it's 7 years old and still in good condition.

@glennmoloney7460 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the review and info on the granny charger. On a side note I'm looking at buying a second have ioniq and was wondering what the recommended charge value is when charging overnight? 80%, 90% or 100%. Cheers.

@GoGreenAutos 9 ай бұрын

Always charge to 100% on AC. When DC rapid charging, charge to around 80%.

@jm-ze3sf 9 ай бұрын

always 100% on ac? I thought it was best to charge the battery to 80% normally and only fully charge the night before when going on a long trip. Seeing it between 20-80 on rapid charging means stops are short....@@GoGreenAutos

@Nikoo033 9 ай бұрын

@@jm-ze3sfjust charge to 100% when you need it for as long as you are going to use the car on the day or the next. On motorway services, just follow your planner instructions and charge whatever you need to get you to your final destination with 20% SoC, just in case. But during the various legs of the journey, I personally go down to 12-15% SoC.

@GoGreenAutos 9 ай бұрын

@@jm-ze3sf it depends on how long its sat at 100% SoC before you use the vehicle. If you're not planning on using it for a few days, don't charge up until you need too. But many spend far too much time and effort trying to look after their battery pack by limiting the charging (and therefore range) when the reality is that it has no measurable benefit in the real world. Obviously it depends on the vehicle and battery chemistry, but just let the BMS do the work for you.

@mfarooq7515 8 ай бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Is this car good for a taxi

@FéargalO Ай бұрын

How many metres is the ICCB charge cable supplied? I am presuming it may be 10m as Hyundia seem to sell an emergency 3 pin charger on their UK site for £276 so could be the same exact cable

@GoGreenAutos Ай бұрын

These are 5 mtr from memory. Maybe 6. Certainly not 10.

@stephengowler5360 9 ай бұрын

Any views about using a UK granny charger in Spain please?

@Ian-xq4rt 9 ай бұрын

Should be fine with a good adaptor (not the cheap travel ones), same voltage (generally) so should work no issues.

@iguanaman08 3 ай бұрын

How long is the cable on the 3-pin home charger? Thanks.

@GoGreenAutos 3 ай бұрын

Typically 4.5-5 mtrs. You can buy 10 mtr versions.

@iguanaman08 3 ай бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Thanks!

@patrickh7368 9 ай бұрын

Hi, the Hyundai charge lead will switch from 10amp to 8amp and 6amp… but curiously my 28K Ioniq had a recall and the dealer fitted a rubber jacket around the charge box on the granny lead, assume to protect against droppage…? 🤔

@GoGreenAutos 9 ай бұрын

That recall clearly isn't being acted on now by dealers as I've had Ioniqs go in to main dealers and a recall lookup has never brought that one up. I have seen one or two Hyundai granny cables with the rubber jacket though.

@patrickh7368 9 ай бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos just out of interest, I understand that domestic 13amp 3-pin sockets are rated to 13amp but the commercial (metal) sockets are tested to 15amp to be slightly safer than domestic as they could have welding sets etc plugged in …

@patrickh7368 9 ай бұрын

@GoGreenAutos 9 ай бұрын

@@patrickh7368 I really don't think that is the case as the actually socket part is the same. A metal box or faceplate doesn't change the part that conducts electricity. I think they are all rated to 16A anyway. But that's peak before they 'blow', not constant for hours.

@btnbiker 9 ай бұрын

The 28 klw Ioniq had a recall to fit a rubber case because they had been getting damaged when dropped. I got a Kona last year and I notice that he charger as a slightly thicker rim so hence no more rubber case required.. By the way I use it all the time when visiting family and friends in fact at Christmas it was connected for 3 days to a dodgy 3 pin plug in.my friends car port. No melting, but no over heating and no fires.

@bobuk5722 9 ай бұрын

Edited to correct error re UK 13 amp fuse. Hi folks, some clarification. By law UK 13 amp plugs contain a replaceable fuse. The maximum value legally available is 13 amps. A 16 amp charger would cause such a 13 amp p fuse to blow. Some so called 13 amp import plugs are not fused and are illegal. Do not use, you will invalidate your house insurance! There's not much point going to a professionally installed 16 amp commando socket, if you want to go that route get a 32 amp one. By law it must be installed by a qualified electrician, it needs the right cabling and the correct miniature circuit breaker in the consumer unit (aka fuse panel). A wall mounted 'charger' is a better solution as mentioned in the video. The better 10 amp portable 'mobile' chargers include heat sensing in the attached 13 amp plug which enables the charger to reduce the current drawn if the plug shows signs of overheating. Strictly none of these portable units are chargers - the charger proper is built into the car where it converts the input alternating current (230 volts AC in UK) to a higher voltage direct current (DC) required to charge the car battery pack, often around 400 volts DC but in some vehicles 800 volts DC. You may be able to set the current drawn in the car's menus. If uncertain of the quality of the 13 amp socket installation at your house - get it checked! If charging at a friend's or relatives maybe set a lower charge current than @0 amps in the car, it will take longer but is safer.