I (55M) found out wife (52F) cheated with a Younger guy and my daughters knew about it.

[@juanhaines7295]

These kinds of double betrayals hurt the most.

[@ayowheredeeway]

double betrayals?

[@napinkpa]

⁠@@ayowheredeewayAre you slow? Please, this is a genuine concern. The “double” is regarding the Mom and their daughters. I seriously dont understand how one can even ask such a question.

[@ayowheredeeway]

@@napinkpain case you say "oh it so long" TLDR: you sound inexperienced with no kids or consideration for them and think everythig is black and white and your opinions are very linear and nothing is complex or has levels to severity. are you slower? the daughters NEVER betrayed him. they allowed their mother, THE PERSON THAT GAVE BIRTH AND RAISED THEM, to come clean to their dad AND had the oldest daughter take on responsibility for the whole situation removing any liability of the other 2 daughters. so no, there wasnt a double betrayal, only 1 and the most OBVIOUS. you agreeing and blaming the daughters shows how much you know about having kids. the father himself said he would understand if they kept it a secret to not destroy the family, which they did not. they just allowed the mother to do that which never happened because of X reasons the mother gave them. notice how all the daughters werent hiding it, just allowing the mother to get it figured out with the father. it is NOT the child's place to have the discussion of the parents. it's between them, not the kids. the kids only have the effect of it and whatever actions must be made AFTER said events and decisions from the parents. imagine even THINKING your daughter betrayed you for trying to resolve this peaceful without any trauma such as arguing and getting mad and seeing all raw emotions from both parents and trying to get the person at fault to resolve this issue with the person most affected. imagine thinking that it's the same betrayal as the person who swore to never do something like cheat or even attempt to and only say "im glad i was caught so i didny go through with it" instead of not even giving any chance to go that far. you might want to reconsider your definition of betrayals. because one side, you have something worse than the other and im going to assume you believe ALL is equal on level of deception. btw, this only took me like 1.5 minutes max to write.

[@SneakNationCEO]

​@@napinkparelax bro it's not that deep.

[@napinkpa]

@@SneakNationCEO Right

[@FlipTheBard]

I might fight with my parents once in a while, but I would NEVER lie about or hide such a thing from either of them. I owe them that much respect.

[@BaeBunni]

I'll play devil's advocate for the daughters. Mom did say she would do it and likely made it seem like "if you tell him he will just leave and no one will get to talk to him." Making it seem like dad is only communicating with the girls because of mom which let's be honest media definitely paints fathers as "I only want to bond with my son!!" mentality.

[@FlipTheBard]

@@BaeBunni I thought the same. I'm not criticizing the daughters, they did what they thought was right. I would never be able to do what they did, I would be very confrontational and upfront about it.If the cheating parent didn't say a thing on the same day, next day the betrayed parent would know by me.

[@shadabkhan-sy3sp]

​@@BaeBunniAnd the daughters were such fools that they believed it? Stop trying to justify what those 3 mini sluts did. They hid it for 3 years. Maybe when young they were afraid but what about when they grew up more? They were selfish a**holes and OP is a good person to not disown them after their betrayal.

[@booty_smash_her]

​@@BaeBunni😂 yeah sure I don't listen to devil go search about him he is ultimate scammer who fools people doesn't matter the reason life is black and white alive or dead left or right wrong or correct this or that heads or tails young or old it's simple

[@booty_smash_her]

​@@FlipTheBardyeah you scared feminist possy daughters gonna hurt your little tail dog 😂

[@thesixthkid7689]

For a second I thought this was the same story as the daughters who took bribes to keep quiet. In that story everything was more or less the same except the 3 daughters extorted money and items from their mother and "didn't want to hurt OP". He told all 3 of them off and left to Brazil, where his parents are buried, and cried at their gravestones. If this happened to be a simple portion of the same story then everyone knows now.

[@AleV69692]

Wait wth?? Do you have a link?

[@thesixthkid7689]

@@AleV69692 unfortunately no, I heard the Reddit story through KZbin (like this video), I don't know where to find it on Reddit itself. Dude abandoned his betraying family and left for Brazil, got drunk and cried at his parents graves then started his own store there. Never officially divorced nor saw his kids again, to his preference. Of course all 3 of his kids and wife constantly called and texted but he was so tired of it he ditched his phone, not block but got rid of his phone entirely.

[@AleV69692]

@@thesixthkid7689 damn😮‍💨

[@vellor9145]

I had the exact same thought, I remember that story it was so sad. Tho I was unsure if it was his ex wife or parents tombstone he was crying at , but that story was traumatizing

[@josephboyle1273]

@@thesixthkid7689 still the most heartbreaking one. Though i never heard an update after he visited his parents graves...

[@astraktion8937]

A true Father, shame it is always the good ones getting cheated on by Monsters like this Witch

[@realglutenfree]

What baffles me is that nobody ever saw her true face before. Usually people like this slip up way sooner. The way she went crazy on the phone....

[@user-kh8cc4bx7y]

@@realglutenfree its very creepy, 20 years with someone and that was all a mask

[@AleV69692]

​@@realglutenfreeprobably trusted her, these psychopaths can hide it for a few years in order to gain one's trust

[@SetariM]

@@realglutenfree Yeah, they were both in their 50's with older children, so they had to be at least married for 10+ years. Fucking sickens me how some women will throw away a marriage just for some dick, and then say "but I saved my emotions for you, the physical sex means nothing!" like bruh, I'd say to 75%+ of men that sex means you don't fucking love them anymore. Imagine your shitty decisions having fucking consequences, lmao. What an idiot the hopefully now ex-wife is.

[@cameoshadowness7757]

@@realglutenfree It could be that she slipped up with the other guy and that's why he confessed about the affair to his soon to be wife? Its hard to tell.

[@jsullivan649]

This isn’t the full story. Seems like part is missing, there was an update that 2/3 of the daughters caught her repeatedly and they hid it. When he found it he kicked them all out and then stopped updating….

[@lastofadyingbreed4850]

yeah, i'm glad i'm not the only one who remembers that

[@melonman6522]

Are you sure this is the same story? Only one of the daughters even lives with him at all so I'm not seeing HOW he could kick out 2/3, did one of the other 2 also move in with him?

[@jsullivan649]

@@melonman6522 when I said he kicked them out, I meant from the hotel room. In the second part he’s in a hotel room and they were with him talking about, then they let it slip that it wasn’t the only time

[@melonman6522]

​@@jsullivan649 Only the youngest was in the hotel room with him, the eldest was in another city and the middle college. Which two did he kick?

[@thedog5k]

If that was true he shoulda gone nuclear

[@woodah33]

why would reddit argue to not have OP discuss with his daughters how much he was hurt by them keeping it a secret from him? The daughters need to understand what they did was so incredibly wrong

[@FractalPrism.]

talking w them gives them a chance to coordinate more and twist the knife harder in the divorce

[@cameoshadowness7757]

Because sometimes the other parent already warps their POV and talking to them can make things a lot worst. This isn't common and they should know what they did was wrong, but its impossible to tell what type of manipulation they went through with the mom to keep that secret.

[@kabob21]

Because like the OP said, most of the people offering advice like this don't have kids and are making kneejerk judgements.

[@CheeseOfMasters]

If they're adults they should already know this is unacceptable. There is no salvaging a relationship where such a betrayal occurred, just leave and move on with your life.

[@DeadCat-42]

That's when you get a DNA test and even if the are yours tell them they are not just to see their reactions and then explain how hurtful lies can be.

[@awepossum1059]

Your children were fully capable of distinguishing right from wrong. Three years ago when the oldest was 20? A 20 year old knows that cheating is wrong.

[@willcresson8776]

They were raised by a cheating woman, who knows what kind of poison she taught them.

[@tek512]

There is *no* valid reason for those kids to keep the secret. "Didn't want to break the family" is not acceptable. The man is deluded if he thinks any child above the age of 8 loves their father if they know something like that and keep it a secret. He's a piggybank, nothing more.

[@neonfroot]

perhaps but remember, kids have no say in their family estate. Kids are not allowed to speak about adult incompetence without getting the sack.

[@TheShapeshiftingReptilian]

The mom threatened them

[@mdw546]

Thats a difficult one, It really depends on if they were being honest about planning to eventually tell him. Regardless, if I ever saw one of my parents doin smth like that i wouldve snitched IMMEDIATELY.

[@booty_smash_her]

​@@TheShapeshiftingReptilianso clearly they care more about themselves than their dad who pays for them what she threatened them with 😂

[@booty_smash_her]

​@@neonfrootyep they do they are not kids but teens at the least they are capable of giving birth to kids all they are legal minors which some guy though was a good idea to randomly put 18

[@kbforme]

He's letting his ADULT daughters off way to easy. The amount of disrespect they showed by keeping it from him as he paid all their expenses is astounding. They didn't get emotional when they learned their mom was cheating on their dad and only showed emotion when confronted and knowing their lifestyle is at risk.

[@bodhisatwakundu2226]

I would've given the daughters a pass if they were younger. But 14, 17 and 20 ain't young, not to mention that they waited 3 years until they were 17, 20 and 23 only for the father to find that out himself. I'm sure this would've never been revealed if the significant other of the AP hadn't told the OP. OP needed to go out to buy milk and not come back, while going scorched earth as a bonus. No amount of waterworks is dissuading me.

[@LS-jv9hp]

If it was me. I'd be telling each of the young whores to change their names and hand each a disownment after the divorce. That shit is truly a betrayal. Never believe a woman tears, it's an instintual practice not a geninue show of a emotion.

[@bodhisatwakundu2226]

@@LS-jv9hp tears piss me off, especially during an argument or a confrontation. It's a blatant attempt to paint themselves as a victim

[@neonfroot]

This is what happens when fathers worship their daughters too much.

[@TheShapeshiftingReptilian]

17 is still young. She was probably in shock/scared.

[@BW022]

@@TheShapeshiftingReptilianThen she should have told an adult. If not her father, her older sister, uncle, aunt, or grandparent on her father's side.

[@l0rdapophis]

I love it when people get drunk and reveal who was under the mask the entire time

[@dddaaa6965]

What if someone is nicer when drunk

[@whitehawk7082]

Paternity tests are important so that OOP has as much ammunition in case his STBXW fights him in the divorce. He can sue her for paternity misrepresentation or fraud if any of the children aren’t his. Dude needs to protect himself.

[@SetariM]

Yeah I'm surprised his mind didn't go straight to DNA tests for his kids

[@DarkFruitsAnimation]

I think this could be damaging. As far as he is concerned they are his kids, blood or not. Why jeopardise that for some cheating asshole, when he will win in court anyway?

[@nope5259]

​@@DarkFruitsAnimationwhy leave your legacy to some b.stards? Why do you care about "the damage"?

[@Derzull2468]

@@DarkFruitsAnimation Screw the "they are his kids, blood or not" part, that's evil. Nothing good is built on a lie.

[@DarkFruitsAnimation]

@@Derzull2468 Being his kids and sharing his blood don't have to be synonymous.

[@rarse9164]

I am not a father, so I think I would probably hate my own daughters if they did that to me, but I see that love is stronger than logic in this case...

[@ole993]

Cant realy blame them. Its impossible to hate your parents or children. Guess they did not want the family ruined, that aint fun for kids

[@mdw546]

If they were actually just keeping it hidden cause they took their moms side on this one, sure I'd understand tellin em to piss off. But in this case, I understand being mad but I don't think I could hate my own blood for what happened here.

[@kabob21]

Then you've never been between a rock and a hard place with family when you were young or are still young yourself.

[@CheeseOfMasters]

@@ole993 It's certainly not impossible, I can tell you that.

[@booty_smash_her]

​@@ole993she obviously did it for the supposed female hive where one female supports another they are woman first then your daughter and a woman prefers a woman first and now they are trying to gaslight him so does the comments if you are posting you story you are in charge no one has business in my telling me you can't walk out on them 😂

[@VeganLatte]

Me and my mom didn't always see eye to eye and fought a lot but if I EVER found out my dad was cheating I would tell her immediately even though Im very close with my dad

[@oskarjakobsson6538]

And if ur mother cheated you would help her?

[@VeganLatte]

@@oskarjakobsson6538 No tf?

[@nitebreak]

@@oskarjakobsson6538obviously not

[@whatinthek7931]

@@oskarjakobsson6538 No it was worded that way around because this commenter is closer with their dad. They are saying that the daughters in the video being closer to the mother was no excuse.

[@theredstar6493]

Nope no way in hell I'd have forgiven daughters if I was in his place Bruh at that point I'd have burned the house down if I was asked for a single penny !

[@thenombinary9099]

apparantly from what others are saying there was another update and the daughters caught them multiple times not once and he kicked the youngest out the hotel

[@theredstar6493]

@@thenombinary9099 just youngest? Nah no contact with entire "family" should've been persuaded Stay away from backstabbers even if they are your own kids!

[@thenombinary9099]

@@theredstar6493 the others didnt live with him he did do that

[@theredstar6493]

@@thenombinary9099 guess who's the next cheater? Can outright guarantee already one of the three daughters have cheated or would likely cheat in future whereas the other will cover for her, birds of feather flock together It was probably in his best interest to throw away everyone from the moment he discovered infidelity & coverup but nonetheless he got it right at the end!

[@mtheory3]

So glad he put his wife on speakerphone for that call

[@yetanothertroll]

Not sure if all three daughters aren't gaslighting tf out of him

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

They absolutely are. VV0men are pathological liars by nature.

[@ShortStoriesHubn]

Double betrayal is definitely the most painful. It cuts deep.

[@Lukdnuke_Narson]

If this is the same one I’m thinking of, there was another update where he finds out that the mother had been bribing the daughters not to say anything and after that he tells them to leave his house, then he goes to see his parents grave. Not sure what happened after, I think he deleted the post.

[@lastofadyingbreed4850]

he did

[@Lukdnuke_Narson]

@@lastofadyingbreed4850 yeah, although now that I think about it, before he did he had commented and implied that he’d remove them from his will.

[@curtisshaw1370]

Different story. In that one, he and his wife were childhood best friends, and he found out about the affair because the AP ended himself. After he threw his wife out, the daughters crawled in bed with him and let slip they knew and were taking bribes for their silence.

[@therealjay8071]

@@curtisshaw1370Do u remember the name of that story? Or could u find the link potentially?

[@marcoamelio4299]

I also remember this story, I remember a comment on this story which reveals that after some time the op committed suicide. but I never got confirmation. I only hope that both the wife and the 3 children find themselves ruined as they are all dependent on the father's income. I also remember that you found out about the relationship after the attempted suicide of the ap, who was the brother, because the wife had decided to end the relationship and get closer to her husband.

[@sheparedcomanderN7]

Almost half a decade gone and not even a hint from the daughters. Makes you wonder how long they would have let it go without saying anything. I’m not a father so maybe I’m missing something but I would be livid with anyone that hid something like that from me for that long

[@Fairygoblet]

It seems like they had a rather comfortable lifestyle. Maybe they were afraid that telling would do more harm than good, or they just weren't sure how to tell. Sometimes after something awful happens it's difficult to put into words. I'm not saying they behaved the right way, but I am saying that I understand why he forgave them.

[@alwaysright3943]

Moral integrity is a concept that doesn't come as naturally to women as it does to men. That's why society is much more accepting of immoral behavior from them. I'd bet if he had a son he wouldn't have to live a lie for another 3 years.

[@mannydcbianco]

Funny how the cheater when caught and confronted almost always (after the obligatory denials) goes from crying and begging for forgiveness to instant seething rage and pure evil when the crying and begging doesn't work. That's not how someone who is truly remorseful behaves, and as the betrayed spouse that's all you need to know if you were dumb enough to even consider giving them another chance.

[@M1ch43l33]

Yeah im sure the mother kept delaying it for 3 years and the 4 of them definitely didnt try to hide it together

[@xws693]

this shouldn't be a surprise woman overwhelmingly take other women's side no matter right or wrong.

[@redguy2312]

Not overwhelmingly, but it do happens a lot of times. But also a f ton of men take the men's too in this type of matter.

[@Jojo_D_Northstar]

@@redguy2312 no men don’t. Else mra would be as big as feminism.

[@neonfroot]

This is why I dont understand why society penalizes single childless adults

[@samuraitadpole5459]

Misery loves company

[@thisdude9363]

Because society collapses without enough childbirths. Japan is literally on the bring of total economic collapse because they have too many old people, not enough working young adults, and not enough children being born to fill the gaps when they reach working age.

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

​@@thisdude9363 Then it sounds like society needs to change so that men actually have reasons to DESIRE getting married and starting a family, maybe by making things more fair for them in family court.

[@CaZuaLDeMoN]

Kind of a doormat. How can you not hold your grown ass daughters accountable. That is literally crazy.

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

Remember that all of this is caused by neo-liberal feminist dogma that denigrates men and convinces them their happiness does not matter.

[@matthewbarabas3052]

a 21 year old isnt a kid. hes a legal adult, and should be thought as an adult.

[@Jojo_D_Northstar]

Funny how that’s not how its seen when leo dates 21 yr old women.

[@matthewbarabas3052]

@@Jojo_D_Northstar same thing. still a legal adult and i dont care about age differences when *both* are legal adults.

[@arthurhex]

Betrayal at all sides, yet he still finds the heart to make reparations with his daughters. A better man than most of us.

[@AleV69692]

No. Weak. He never let the girls see the consequences of their actions. He coddled them because he believed "it wasn't them" to cover for their mom's cheating. THREE YEARS they looked into his eyes and NEVER SAID A WORD. No wonder he never saw the signs, there is always signs

[@urg54]

@@AleV69692you clearly don’t have kids😂 “week” that sounds hella retarted

[@nickwang5237]

⁠@@AleV69692So you are absolutely wrong. The consequence is divorce, and a broken family. Are you saying that having the fear of losing their dad, losing their mom, stuck in court, having to choose sides between people who literally raised you is nothing, and the daughters are still 100% wrong even when they’re being manipulated by their mother? Edit: also what is wrong with you all agreeing with this dude?

[@arthurhex]

@@AleV69692 it is not weaknesses to forgive, it’s takes far more strength to forgive than to hate. Hating Is easy.

[@aflowingbrook2919]

@@arthurhext true. only people that are weak hold unto their hatred. it takes a lot of strength to truly forgive someone and move on

[@Himmel23]

3 years and they conveniently kept putting it off? Eh no...That's bs, if they really wanted to tell him, they would've, they even acted normal the whole time according to OP, even if "not breaking the family" was the reasoning they used, that was selfishly still only to benefit them, not the father, the family was broken the moment the mother spread her legs to some other dude. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the daughters also cheat on their future partners, if someone is willing to hide cheating it's highly likely they'd do it themselves or have done it at some point, the apple does not fall far from the tree, cheaters or potential cheaters relate to other cheaters, it's how it usually goes with these sorts. Never believe a woman in tears, it's usually crocodile tears, it's astonishing how quickly they begin crying, you don't start crying that quickly unless you were already upset before or if you're a child, even if i(struggling with some things) tried to cry out of nowhere right now i couldn't, I'd need to be feeling a certain type of way beforehand, those tears are not genuine. Forgiving the lying b*tches like that is a huge mistake, they clearly didn't respect the father enough. They were old enough to know right from wrong, and i personally wouldn't be so quick to forgive them like that. I'd also definitely want a DNA test regardless of how old they are, I'd want to know if i raised someone else's orgasm this whole time, call it peace of mind. If the supposed deleted updates are true where the father finds out they continued to lie to him and they were taking bribes from the mother to keep it quiet, then I'm glad he kicked the daughters to the curb and left as also mentioned in said update.

[@Togairu]

oh 100% they will be cheaters. Their morals are extremely suspect and children obviously pattern after their parents to a large degree. Add in all the modern values in the media which they were no doubt heavily exposed to and which seem to excuse and even celebrate women for cheating, and there is almost zero chance they dont repeat the behavior.

[@merykhan97]

He actually believed the daughters. They stayed silent for 3 years. That doesn't go with their version of the story.

[@GloriousRock]

I don’t believe the daughters. 3 YEARS and still never told him, no hints or anything.

[@nitebreak]

the wife is so creepy for that, she was his senior in age and at work. She reminds me of those sleazy business men who go after younger women.

[@hzouine5987]

I'm I the only one who likes the old music better?

[@Buldogg345]

Sometimes the music makes the video even more depressing.

[@tombrady5587]

I prefer this one. It's the same music as some other KZbinr who shares reddit cheating stories

[@hzouine5987]

@@tombrady5587 I got used to it 🥲

[@theculturedone6275]

​@@tombrady5587which channel do you mean?

[@tombrady5587]

@@theculturedone6275 Just had a search and found it, it's "RedditOutLoud Relationships"

[@Sekeeth]

7:50 - 8:30 repeats twice. Don't rush so much and run everything through spellcheck, laywer was used at least three times.

[@atlus6412]

When cheating is involved in marriage.... The one gets seriously wounded are always the victims..... Cheaters moved on the moment they start cheating.... They don't feel anything.😢

[@ronchum5178]

I love how this channel includes the updates often.

[@DrewHoward-tk1jz]

That was horrible, I'm glad the kids came clean immediately tho.

[@jsullivan649]

They didn’t though, this isn’t the full story. The girls caught her repeatedly and all hid it from him.

[@oobtty]

If immediately means 3 years then yes.

[@AleV69692]

​@@oobtty"immediately"😂😂😂😂😂

[@meowser1905]

I mean, they were manipulated

[@GongasTopG]

Im not a father, I am the age of his older Daughter, man this is one of my biggest Nightmares

[@paladin_of_blue]

Darn, I wish the last update was accessible somehow 😕

[@FractalPrism.]

dont confront the wife in the 1st place or ever sell the entire biz put it all in a trust scorched earth, leave the country, never return

[@notreal7169]

spousal support? what? go get a job?

[@Arkryal]

Lol, yeah, TV sitcoms have poisoned the minds of many women into believing spousal support (alimony) is just a given, granted to all women in divorce. An astonishing number believe that. Nothing could be further from the truth. OP doesn't say what country or region they're from, but I'll assume the U.S. First, if it's an at-fault divorce state, and there's proof of infidelity, OP's wife could end up losing nearly everything, though that likely entails a lengthy court battle and the costs may exceed what either stand to gain, but some people will accept that expense just to be vindictive, lol. If it's a no-fault state, the courts will try for something close to a 50/50 division of joint assets. OP was smart to keep their finances split, that makes it very easy to calculate. Their biggest shared asset will likely be the house. Since the kids are grown, with the youngest off to college soon, the most expedient resolution would be to sell the home and split sale value. In today's market, they likely stand to profit from that anyway, as long as they don't have two mortgages, liens or anything like that. Alternatively, one could buy out the equity of the other and keep the house. But either way, it's easy to resolve. The kids are over 18, so no child support. As for Alimony... That is specifically to compensate for financial losses incurred as a result of the marriage. Let's say OP and his wife agreed she would be a stay-at-home mom for 10 years. That decision could have cost her a lot of money in terms of lost career development, which would be quantified, and he (or she) would pay half the difference. If 10 years of staying home with the kids cost her $20,000 a year in career advancement, he'd be on the hook for half, as it was the product of a joint decision. But he likely has similar claims against her, so often it comes out as a wash, with any difference being too insignificant to be worth the expense of pursuing. And it doesn't sound like that's the case here anyway. She might be entitled to something but it's equally possible she would owe him. Since they're both gainfully employed, will have the proceeds of the house sale and are both independently financially comfortable, this may be a treacherous road for her to go down. It could backfire in a big way, especially with him as a business owner. Her claims to the business: As OP said, he employs a lot of people, a judge will consider that. The court likely won't touch the business at all. Unless she already holds equity in the company, her claims are weak at best. It will still be a headache for the lawyers, but beyond that, it shouldn't come up. This could also backfire on her, as companies aren't just assets, they can have liabilities as well. Equity is not just profit, but also debt unless it's incorporated (which it likely is with 50+ employees). In fact, if OP's company needs new equipment, vehicles etc, this is a great time to take on that debt and reduce the value of the company with outstanding liabilities. But that's going down a different rabbit hole and I'm sure his lawyer wants to avoid that. OP has a strong case already, so don't screw that up. And a lot depends on if it's a proprietorship, partnership, LLC, SCORP, etc. That is out of scope for most divorce attorneys, he'd need a whole legal team if he wanted to leverage the business to his advantage, and would need to tread lightly not to run afoul of his fiduciary duties to the company he started. Her lawyer will likely tell her to drop that claim, and his lawyer will tell him not to engage in any shenanigans with the business until they have a signed settlement. The attorneys will call the shots from here. Divorce attorneys are in constant demand, but also have a lot of competition. They have their own agenda, as their money doesn't come from one big divorce, but rather settling 2 dozen divorces a month with as-close-to-boiler-plate paperwork as they can get away with. Their profit incentive is to resolve cases FAST, and that is usually in the best interests of their clients as well. This will not be some dramatic courtroom drama, it will be settled likely over email except for the actual signing of a settlement. The lawyers on either side don't give a shit how this ends, they just want it over with quick and easy so they get paid, lol. That doesn't mean they don't have their client's interests at heart, far from it. They will still give excellent advice, I'm sure, and both would be wise to follow that advice. OP and his wife will be "handled" by their attorneys and will be shown the benefits of an amicable settlement. The wildcard here is the daughters. If there's going to be any shady tactics, it will be from their side. Sounds like they are all on "Team-Daddy". They are all adults. They could very easily issue an ultimatum to their mother to force her hand with regard to how assets are divided. OP doesn't sound like someone who would weaponize his own kids against his ex, but being adults, they could intervene of their own accord. They could easily tell their mother "You destroyed our family, lied and used us as pawns to cover it up. You're going to give Dad everything he asks for in the divorce, no questions asked, or you will not see us again." I don't think they would do that, but if their mother made false accusations of abuse as she threatened to, that might incentivize them.

[@jordan9503]

man got betrayed by every woman in his life even his baby girls 😢

[@whitelucifax6700]

21 = kid and 17 = adult, sound logic.

[@neonfroot]

Yep. 😂😂😂😂 Men are weird like that. They look down on younger men as children but they view teenage girls as adults.

[@basedjaguar4649]

I'd cut off all contact with everyone

[@scimbrelo]

Now that's one way to wreck a home

[@Deathmonkey361]

You can only be manipulated if you allow it. I would have done what that one dude did, with getting a new identity and citizenship in a country with no extradition laws he even gave a fake name when he did it so there is no paper trail even. Then he liquidated all his assets set up in the new country and didn't leave a dime to his cheater wife. OP was to soft those kids of his where never in his corner.

[@nickwang5237]

No, you can obviously be manipulated against your will, that’s literally what manipulated means. Also, turning down problems won’t do anything, and the guy you’re referring to has a mental illness. The op does a really good job here, being caring and considerate to his daughters. It doesn’t give to the right to leave your family (your parents, relatives, wife/husband and kids), your friends, and all the other people that cared about you in a broken state just because you’re betrayed. No matter how horrible it is, as long as ONE person or more still cares about you and didn’t do anything wrong to you without a proper reason, it’s absolutely wrong to just dip.

[@Deathmonkey361]

@@nickwang5237 When blood/family betrays you they are no longer family. Family doesn't do this to each other, maybe that's just me but they'd be dead to me, some betrayals cannot be forgiven. I couldn't trust em afterwards, what other secrets could they be hiding? You always have a choice to either not be manipulated or be manipulated. They chose to keep believing their mother would tell him and yet didn't have enough moral fibre to tell him. Nothing wrong with ghosting he really should have for his own wellbeing and mental health. But yeh it's seems to be accepted to just sh!t on the victim and make them be the one to accept the sh!t done to them. Heh leave them in a broken state? what about him? his heart break, his loss of a family he thought he knew? Nah m8 some betrayals are unforgiveable.

[@nickwang5237]

@@Deathmonkey361 his daughters have reasons to do such act, I’m not saying that it’s right, I’m just saying it should be forgiven. Besides, they seems to feel really sorry for their actions. The fear of breaking up the family is real, because it is something they’re used to for years. And it sometimes forces people to do the things that they knew deep down, is wrong. But they still love him, and he still loves them. Second, you don’t always have a choice to be manipulated or not. I mean, yeah you can just say “nah-uh”, but what will that cost them? A broken family? A long law case? Being discussed about by their classmates? Having to choose sides between people who raised them from birth? A destruction to the relationship between them and their cousins, uncles, basically everyone in their mother’s family? There’s consequences, it’s not the daughter’s fault to be scared. They’re not the one to blame. Third, there are still people who cares about the op, is it right to leave those people who offered help to him, like his brother or his friend who was divorced behind? I know he’s hurt. I can tell. A week or even a month alone is fine. He needs that, and others can understand. But if you think just because he’s stabbed, he can become a hedgehog and sting anyone who tries to give him a hand, then you’re wrong.

[@Deathmonkey361]

@@nickwang5237 In the end the exact same thing happened, cept the dad wasted more time and now probs has trust issues in the back of his mind. His choice was taken away from him by his daughters refusing to help him from the get go. Instead they supported the mother in her lie by not telling him. Common sense has died, any one with 2 brain cells to rub together knows that the mother is in the wrong she is the one that destroyed the family. The daughters just draped a cover over the mess until the dad looked under it. However the daughters are to blame for not telling the dad as it could have saved him pain and time also a chance to get his ducks set up so to speak. The others reaching out to him would understand that sometimes you need to just get away from the pain. The daughters inaction shows us how they really felt, in my opinion cheaters protect cheaters. Hope the BF or GF of the girls keeps their wits about them. If you know something is wrong and still do it anyways what does that make you? I would have also gotten a DNA test on the kids can't trust that she didn't cheat in the past either.

[@nickwang5237]

@@Deathmonkey361 they didn’t support her cheating, they tried to make her tell the op several times, and talked about it with their mom many times as well. It’s their mom who turned it down, and told them not to tell. And since they were only in their early 20s (one of them aren’t even adult yet), their mom obviously had a impact on their decisions. And when the op brought it up (not telling them directly what he wanted to know), they immediately started sobbing. It wasn’t even in the back of their head, they were thinking about it constantly, and revealed it the moment their dad bring it up. If they were really supporting their mother’s affair, they would pretend they knew nothing and try to cover it. There’s a reason to their actions, the reason doesn’t make the actions good, it just makes it understandable and maybe even forgivable. Second, it’s incredibly rude to just assume “tHeY wOuLd uNdErStAnD iT” and cut all the contact with those who love you and you love without telling them the reason forever. Imagine your mother, sick in the hospital, and all she wanted is to see her loved son one last time, but instead she got the unfortunate reality of her son not being there. She might even blame herself for it for driving her son away because she didn’t know the true story behind her son leaving. That applies to everyone else. The act will cause pain, doubt, rumors and guilt for the ones that doesn’t even deserve this. It is a extremely selfish move to just leave without informing them, regardless of being deeply hurt or not, because life don’t revolve around your emotions. It’s unfair for them to go through this punishment for a crime they did not commit.

[@WeaponXSigma]

If he's going to Thailand, he better watch out for those traps

[@metalmadness90000]

Goofy daughters 😂 and OP is crazy trying to give them so much credit 😮‍💨

[@hockey_rules]

I can just hear Op's wife's excuses for the betrayal - "it just happened", "it meant nothing", "you weren't there for me", "he made me feel young"... shallow, selfish woman. And I'm sorry, I wouldn't have been so forgiving with the daughters...for 3 years they pretended the affair never happened.

[@nutrizzlean]

truly a laywer moment

[@dianabialaskahansen2972]

Not sure I could have forgiven the daughters, at least not the oldest. The daughters should have told OP instantly when she found out, but instead 3 entire years passed. That is just such a huge betrayal.

[@gigachad1021]

Kuck

[@AleV69692]

Exactly

[@mouse9283]

Ain't no way they just kissed. 😂like fr an entire day and a kiss??? Sus lol

[@abrarsayem4158]

Don't forget to update

[@kaps121]

Just write them out if the will

[@GM-wu7cn]

The "yassss you go queen" code goes strong... Real strong... Females for ya 🐍from the beginning, got the mandem kicked out of Eden 😂

[@AEStolfo]

WHAT IN THE F WAS THIS?!?

[@andruyscha]

I would stop contact with my daughters for now. This situation would show me that I have failed as a father and that my daughters do not follow any moral principles the way I raised them. This idea of ​​them betraying everything I stand for would be too much. Since I am also the father of 2 daughters, this would be the worst decision I would have to make

[@anthonyburke5656]

You would HAVE to know, it wasn’t a “once only” the “modus operandi” was so slick and polished, that wife had perfected the technique over years of practise.

[@CriticalRP]

i really want an update. im invested

[@NikolaosOfficial]

Bro if I was in his shoes I would disown them imagine your own kids betraying you like that

[@INEZ.B]

Man if I was him I would have disowned them so fast bro like piece I’m out

[@Plasticpaddy88]

Leave and never look back. Law can’t get you in another country

[@Togairu]

Its crazy how many people here are excusing the daughters. I have a feeling if they were sons a lot of you would be saying something different. And this is why we are in the mess we are in. Zero accountability for women these days.

[@soju69jinro]

get the divorce, my ex-wife cheated... it hurts, but cheaters will be cheaters, she continued to screw other men, while calling me to apologize... she wants me to apologize to her that she cheated on me... kinda delusional right? Well, it's been years since we spoke, and trust me, you'll feel much better away from that skank.

[@experiencedotaku171]

Op is the "oh you can ruin me" type of father damn

[@davidozzo123]

I can't freaking believe the mother was planning a wedding with the lover.

[@md69103]

i thought so at first but it was someone else the AP was marrying and he told the truth to her because he couldn't keep the secret so then she called the husband to inform him of his wife's cheating

[@briann3970]

I would confirm that my daughters knew, then never speak to them again

[@mochamadefendi7964]

Did this Man never heard about The BAD SEED!!! if you found your Children had made BAD CRIME (example: serial killer) are you still gonna taken them as your Children? Their Betrayal can also considered as Murderer, and they keep it secret for a long times can also being considered as Serial Crimes.

[@alwaysright3943]

I'm either having a son or an abortion.

[@natashakhan7872]

Weirdo

[@TrueLight-zr8ou]

if you willing to kill over gender you don't deserve to be a father disgusting behavior

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

Based tbh

[@anthonyburke5656]

Steps: get a competent Family Lawyer; instruct the lawyer precisely to maximise your financial return; get your liquid assets out of the country as a backstop; organise short term alternate housing; find a competent Counsellor but tell them reconciliation is out and the parent/child thing is on hold; once the papers are done, get them served and the process rolling.

[@echo5892]

I don't get it how the daughters never said a word

[@kossettereaditte7552]

If the daghters are adults you absolutely can hold them accountable for betraying you.

[@ChefRye1]

Like mother like daughter. Women love defending other women for cheating.

[@ROCKSTAR123620]

I remember this the oldest spoke on this and she was with nonsense calling the youngest drunk and spoken mean to her

[@SillyGirl-ez5ii]

im the same age as the youngest daughter, and part of me can see why she didnt say anything. at 17, youre already worrying about graduation, school, work, social life, etc. sharing this sort of bomb drop with the father would completely ruin the structure of your family. not to mention your daughter couldve had a closer connection to her mother, and couldve been manipulated into believing that this was the best thing at the moment.

[@FrostBeam009]

Stay single boys and dont get kids! get a cat or a dog will give you the same love.

[@nexviro8987]

Damn she still gets half of his money even tho she cheated.

[@alwaysright3943]

Marriage is grand, but divorce is a hundred grand.

[@Knight-In-Green]

I... don't know what to think. His love for his daughters must be a lot stronger than their love for him, and he must have bonded where they did not. I think a betrayal like this would send me over the edge. Certainly a much stronger(or just with more incentives) man than I.

[@blimy01maynard30]

Just started the video, but I can sympathize with a child who catches one parent cheating. It can't be the easiest thing to tell your hero that their soulmate is dogging them.

[@ronaldoalves2978]

My son has always been my life. I've done everything for him for 11 years. Then I divorced his mother and it was hard to see him once a month. When he was 18, he moved away from me and didn't visit me for 1 year and 10 months. We live in neighboring districts. It was hard, disappointment with a son is harder than with a wife.

[@cloudunderweather9554]

change is scary. So i do sympathize with the daughters for keeping the secret out of fear of it breaking the family apart. still hurts tho....

[@anthonyburke5656]

You CAN walk away from kids, especially adult kids

[@experiencedotaku171]

This story is based on so many assumptions tho As much as it was somehow all correct... I wouldn't like my partner to just believe that I cheated because a partner of my work buddy who's half my age told em stuff like my phone number... And I would also hate for my father to assume I betrayed him because a stranger told him my elder sister saw my mom fkin someone with no proof 💀 Like bro gave the exam with 0 study, did random bs in exam and got 100/100 Edit: nvm the story updated

[@bruh-kv5hs]

And what is in the update ?

[@deathrager2404]

he should do a dna test

[@greasybumpkin1661]

08:40 dude you're already using AI to automate so much work away can't you be bothered to review these clips and check for duplicate parts?

[@ashleyyoung796]

Not to mention that the AI couldn't say "lawyer" right.🤦‍♀️ I'm starting to think that the one who made this video is just lazy and doesn't care enough to put in an update.😑

[@markmessina7895]

yes it matters . if they are not yours it is easier to move on .

[@TerraDactyl-hc9ff]

I told my dad when my mom cheated. All my sisters hated me afterwards but I’m glad I told him. He deserved the truth. I think I was 9? I don’t remember

[@henrywade-re1of]

Nice very good of you

[@kabob21]

I'm glad this guy is reflecting his age and being mature about it. Reddit is a double-edged sword, you'll get lots of perspectives and advice but it's often (if not mostly) coming from young people with no experience and a lot of assumptions and anger. And he's right, most of them don't have kids. Gotta filter it down to people who *do* have experience with your situation and circumstances.

[@alwaysright3943]

Gaining experience doesn't necessarily mean you give up your spine lol. His daughters didn't give a f enough about him to be honest with him and let him live in ignorance of his wife's betrayal. Being stabbed in the back like that must hurt extra when it's by your own blood, which isn't 100% clear now that I think of it.

[@CheeseOfMasters]

They'll just betray him again.

[@awepossum1059]

You don't need to have kids to know that being a piggy bank for three brats who don't care about you is dumb.

[@Thegrim326]

3 years yea no eff that everyone is cut off

[@peterjackson1430]

OP is way too lenient with his "daughters." That's all fine and dandy he wants to play the good father card by not holding them accountable for betraying them and keeping their trashy mom's secret. When two children walk in on a "one time laspe of judgement" on two separate occasions they should have shown loyalty to their cuckold father. Instead of being a Simp he should get a DNA test for all 3 kids. He can still see himself as super dad because "he raised them and they're his girls no matter what" once a cheater always a cheater. OP's wife has a history of cheating. He has every right not to trust those girls are his.

[@neonfroot]

0:20 - 0:30 early twenties isnt a kid. I know is common for older adults to look down on young adults but seriously, 21 is not an infant.

[@reedergrant6108]

Daughters are lying. They are their mother’s keeper. Why make excuses for them? Difficult decision my ass. They didn’t love you enough to tell you the truth.

[@ThePawerStation]

Sorry But I would go LC with all 3 daughters. They sided with a cheater and knew very well she is full of BS.

[@TRYGOOFEY]

I thought AP fiancé told him about hotel meet ups amongst other things. I would’ve led with that instead of focusing on the kiss.

[@ianmoritzplatapino3684]

Time to ditch the wife and the daughters 😊😊😊😊😊

[@KotushkFier666]

Wife yes, daughters no. I'm a fairly functional and anti children borderline psychotic person, and even I think you're foolish for this suggestion.

[@TAC9_]

Yeah ditch both of them they all just kept the secret

[@JustSaiyanDude]

​@@KotushkFier66617-23 is definitely old enough to know right from wrong. The sister actively covered for the mom knowing it would hurt their dad for 3 years. They chose their favorite parent, guy isn't appreciated so I agree time for all of them to kick rocks.

[@13din]

@@KotushkFier666they probably didn’t watch the whole video

[@13din]

Did u even watch the whole video

[@antonlupan8482]

Anyone knows where I could find the whole story? I remember it had more parts

[@009AWB]

You might love them but how can you honestly believe they love you? Three years of conspiracy??? Come on, man!

[@stagenine4702]

man i hate having to call my laywer

[@jadesorono6694]

Hahaha W/wife toxic don't gave trash talk 😂

[@frankiewilson6001]

Welp now the daughters are most likely going to participate in infedelity in their relationships.