I am DONE with EPOXY!

[@cgjeff]

Always gotta remember with epoxy it's pour depth AND volume, if you exceed the max on either, and don't have it under intense cooling, you're gonna have a bad time. Really good reason why the Black Forest guys just started their own epoxy line, and why their deep pour room is hardcore air conditioned, and if I remember right they pour with the mold on top of a big aluminum plate with standing air conditioners beneath it. It's all about heatsinking so you don't get thermal runaway.

[@charlesthomas9294]

Yes. All of this. :)

[@zcc4794]

They also have water cooled tables as well.

[@ResinWoodTablesNZ]

True and epoxy mass at 100mm deep is ok as long as you have like island areas so more wood mass as that absorbs the heat and kools the resin but if you have stones on the other hand that will hold the heat and intensify.

[@FatCamp2010]

most companies state in their instructions when mixing over X amount max depth drops to X. All epoxy is mass and temperature sensitive. I've seen a lot of people using cooling tables but if your shop (or the pour) falls below 60°F the epoxy could stall out so its a double edged sword.

[@jessicalane107]

The Black Forest guys know what they're doing for sure.

[@murphyc15]

I feel like a really dark stain on the wood would've helped make the epoxy look better

[@kjac23]

I thought the exact same thing especially after the white wasn't white enough

[@wyliewoodco]

There is no way to make epoxy look better.

[@darkmagna9004]

@@wyliewoodco He said a darker stain on the WOOD, which he feels would offset against the epoxy better. He didn't say to do anything to the epoxy.

[@wyliewoodco]

@@darkmagna9004 you’re missing the point but thanks for clearing that up 😂

[@seeps9353]

The wood is too light colored to show off the logo and makes the wood look cheap and new. Stain brings out the grain and gives the wood character. I think we all agree.

[@bnelly1987]

It’s a shame how this one turned out, but a good lesson learned I guess. I really do appreciate you guys posting this and mistakes that are made in the process of your projects. Glad that you are willing to share those with us. We probably learn more for the mistakes than we do from the successes.

[@purroductscentral]

I was expecting the cracks to be filled with a dark epoxy, just to make "intentional inclusions." But pretty cool that the existing tinted product was still available to fill those cracks. Definitely stopped the puck right on the goal line with this build.. lol

[@Atlantismonkey40]

Personal, learning from mistakes are priceless. The fact your still keeping-using is gargantuan. That’s right gargantuan! Everyday looking at the perception of wrong, inspired. Love it. Keep being squrealle.

[@ryanlindsay420]

I've been able to reuse resin from scraps by shaving the resin into resin chips and adding them to a different pour, and you usually won't be able to see them. It has saved me a ton of money on pours.

[@51polarlax]

Thanks for sharing this with us. It's not everyday "influencers" share their failures and mistakes

[@davidfitwe]

Really surprised you haven't invested in a water cooled table yet, I don't think this is the first time you could have used it.

[@donnygrahambuilds]

Solid salvage effort boys! haha, I will say when I made my river table, I had a lot of luck using a $2-$3 syringe to inject epoxy into those more pesky cracks/voids after surfacing. Makes a notable difference in how well it penetrates the void and how easy sanding is later. Hope that helps!

[@AndrewKleinWW]

It sure turned out a whole lot better than I thought it was going to half way though the video, nice work!

[@John_Malecki]

Thanks brother!

[@samanthadinickle5781]

I think for the blue side, you would have done either 1 blue bucket or 2 blue buckets and the other buckets clear. This would have allow the clear stay light and shine. However, I still love it! Nice job you guys!

[@1cbrracer]

I reckon if you'd stained the wood a few shades darker, kinda antique pine it mightve helped the logo stand out some more🤔

[@tauepsilon4220]

Maybe try to pour thinner layers over a longer period so there wont be so much thermal stress.

[@evanoldhoff4904]

I’m thinking adding either all white led lights on the underside, or maybe a mix of blue and red? Idk. Would really make those colours brighten up. Could be worth a try. Shine a flashlight under there and see how it looks

[@beny7160]

The entire vibe of this team is A1. I've worked with a lot of crews and the difference between a good day and a bad day has less to do with what you are doing, but the skill and patience of the people you are doing it with.

[@jonathanmolina3529]

Ok, here's the problem. When you pour epoxy for a river table, if it's over 1 inch thick you cannot use normal epoxy. You have to use casting epoxy. Is an epoxy that hardens but not as rigid as normal epoxy. That way when epoxy heats up (it will since epoxy cures with heat) it can expands and then as it cools and contracts, it doesn't crack. After you finish pouring the casting epoxy then use normal epoxy for a clear top coat

[@rodpotts2666]

Jorden nailed it! Call it the Jell-O shot!

[@nekocal]

I love seeing people that are sort of great kinda blow it and then recover. We all make mistakes but we don't always realize we all make mistakes. Somehow, in a way I can't quite articulate, the world needs more of this video.

[@pmhcustomcreations]

I use super clear as well its great to pour 4 5 inches but you need to drop the shop temperature in the room. Also if your doing deep pours make a table that you can chill. It helps draw some heat away.

[@bradleverton3233]

Love the logo in the middle! I looks like you planned it that way!

[@Radishboy]

Hey man, i have no idea how to get ahold of you I create content full time on twitch. my house burnt down live on stream in January. my family heirloom table was scorched in the process but is still intact and has a cool char on it. I would love to be able to send it to you for you to create a new table with the burned one. this would mean the world to me! PLEASE. i have no time limit I dont care if it takes you a year. they just finished deconstruction so we dont plan to be back in the house for another 6 months. Love the vid man! God Bless

[@XtremeChiliPepper]

If you go to the description, or have watched some of the other videos, he has about 5 different ways to contact him.

[@Lumberox]

Still did a good job on recovering what most would consider a loss.

[@kenreynolds1000]

I’m doing a smaller 3 gallon project in the next few weeks. I don’t have a chilled table, but I am thinking about cutting up some conduit “rollers” for air flow underneath. I will let you know how it goes.

[@jaywashington2196]

The one project “Let us Spray” could’ve been replaced with “Spray and Pray”

[@SiegeDestroyer]

More like "Let us get squirrelly"

[@ryanwood7112]

Came here to say exactly this!

[@wannabefunnyman]

There’s this kind of KZbin watchers that love to watch people fail and then shit on them. I see it all the time. That’s not my thing. I love watching people making really cool stuff. Despite that, these are some of my favorite videos to watch. It’s when things go wrong that we get to see how our favorite KZbinrs’ minds work. It’s not the mishap that interests me, rather what they do next … how they fix or hide a mistake. That stuff is KZbin gold.

[@MrErViLi]

Great save! I bet it would have looked awesome if you had swip swapped the colors. Put the red epoxy in the blue cracks and vice versa. And maybe for a future project you can make the epoxy crack on purpose and fill the cracks with a complimentary color.

[@John_Malecki]

Hahah I think we wouldve had to let it dry, the colors didn't mix very well.

[@MrErViLi]

@@John_Malecki Yeah that's what I meant. Let it dry with the cracks then fill those cracks with a different color epoxy. Just a wild thought! Keep up the great content. You're one of my favs!

[@brianw572]

I think the table turned out pretty good considering the issues with the epoxy pour. Plus, that is the only way you learn the limits of what you can and cannot do. Nice save on the table!!

[@koobs4549]

If you’ve ever wondered what it would be like if Bert Kreischer was a carpenter instead of a comedian, then this channel is for you.

[@ctfddftba]

Would have looked cool if you had filled the cracks with a solid white, would have highlighted them as a design feature instead of trying to minimize the cracks

[@k20em2ti]

Try laying down a base layer of color. Let it cure, but don't let it completely set. Pour a send layer of clear over the base. Same effect, but much more forgiving if mistakes are made. All the imperfections can be fixed, prior pouring the clear.

[@norcross26]

Wow that's one heck of a save. I think the powder blue from the black diamond brand would have been better. But I think the white liquid would have made the logo pop more. The liquid color I'm not a fan. Atleast you saved your table.. I couldn't save my first one.. between layers it didn't cure fully..but I took the cherry pieces out of it and turned them in to cutting boards. Great save gents 👏 👍

[@DuncanCustomAirbrush]

Hey man, you got a great channel, very entertaining and I recognize some of the CJS techniques. I have been with Derral for 4 weeks in CJS hoping to figure my crap out and skyrocket dis sum-gum!✌️

[@John_Malecki]

HEy Duncan , goodluck! Its good stuff

[@bjrn-oskarrnning2740]

Y'know, if you could harness the cracking and use some really pale blue resin it could make a neat glacier effect!

[@jasonhagen]

The Total Boat pump and dump! Love that!

[@waynefisher7694]

Absolutely beautiful work! I was thinking a series of 1 inch holes in the epoxy separation "baffle" might allow for a mingling of the colored epoxy that would resemble a finger joint made from the epoxy. Maybe, maybe not. The CNC'ed logo is spectacular instead.

[@seantwomey396]

I like the logo addition. It is smart and effective.

[@gregac1984]

This is a great video. I think that seeing professionals encounter challenges and how they manage them is very interesting!

[@JMBurke]

So glad you tried this concept. I was thinking of doing something very similar (down the road) for a conference table for a friend of mine's business. For that thickness, I guess a 2 pour option would work best- maybe clear first then come back and damn up a split with the red and blue. Oh, and I was thinking as I watched this, you could have possibly hit the letters in the logo with a torch to help them stand out against the white a bit more. just my 2 cents.... they're worth much less now due to inflation. Cheers!

[@dhanushpai4403]

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[@rwbuchwald]

You always have resin that turns out clear. How do you get rid of micro bubbles. I’ve used a blow torch I’ve let it sit for about 10 mins but i normally end up with micro bubbles. Any advice would be much appreciated

[@GibClark]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻gotta learn someway

[@nicks5121]

i randomly stumbled across your videos and now i am addicted! made me wanna try some projects

[@thswrestler160]

Lots of questions ran through my head when he said he was going to pour 4 inches. Like: Why? Just to have a funny video title? If you already have your dye ratio, 2 pours of 2inches would be far less risk.

[@texturizable288]

it wouldn't have cracked so bad either lol

[@wmose3694]

i think it was bc he wanted to pull the dam out and swirl the two sides together and then under light it if he had down 2 pours it would have looked kind of odd .... cool idea but really not game plan like lets cool the room as much as possible as it did have ac and or check on it in the night to see how it was going

[@kandi2047]

should've used clear mylar (can be purchased cheap @ joanns sewing section using coupon). mylar can withstand heat (does warp at very high temp). but for the table, any warping in the mylar will add to the effect looking more realistic.

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Always a great time to see a new video guys. We live and learn an learn to live. John and boys. Can't wait to see more videos soon guys. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Fab On. Weld on. Keep making. Stay squirrely. God Bless.

[@maydayswoodworks6207]

I have been a pro woodworker for 12 years running my own company... The only difference between a pro and an amateur is NOT how we fix mistakes.... The difference is that a pro knows what to do to avoid mistakes before you make them. Because that's how you make money.

[@shakeandbake9562]

Great cover up. You take on some crazy projects. Love it! Whenever using a light color on dark woods I use a white primer first which makes the colors true and it makes the epoxy look opaque.

[@kasiastywojtek]

Question i i may ask You buff epoxy until what gradiation?? Becuase after that you use 2 part varnish...and it looks like epoxy is well buffed..

[@jenniferlawson1678]

Curious what the blue and red would look like with an diffused led panel underneath

[@FitnessSheriff]

Epoxy pour tables will become the clear coat wood cookie clocks of the 70's

[@DefaultUserGaming]

What tool do you use for sanding and polishing?

[@DeadTheRot]

I think i mightve hit all the resin with some type of air hammer and re poured another couple gallons and just lived with a fractle looking design between the two. Still cool tho

[@KatieSanvick]

should put led lights underneath to shine through the resin, would make the blue more blue

[@markhopkins7204]

regardless of the finished product, always enjoy your vids and throwing caution to the wind approach to your craftsmanship...just like your "pancakes on Sundays", it's always flat out fun visiting your channel...rock on, young MAN!

[@John_Malecki]

Hope to see you come back again!

[@mistergamerguy]

2:12 is that like in the dictionary under redundant it says see redundant?

[@jeannunn6709]

You could make end tables or coffee tables, with the pieces you cut off the slabs, for ones that live in apartments or smaller spaces.

[@t3knosoulz]

On the bright side the cracks really help to deliver the jolly rancher vibe lmao

[@roncravens5805]

Shop light safety tubes for the molds. Modified to get a tapered shape your looking for. And you can see air bubbles easy. Just a idea.

[@AnthonyLoPrimo]

Just a wild idea, but is there any way to further propogate cracks in the resin? Hitting it with a hammer to further crack it, then filling in with the resin? Maybe adding cracks might have both masked the error while adding more visual flair...

[@tomchapman3315]

Would that be strong enough for a see thru door?

[@brandywilleford9157]

With a "frame" all around it,probally

[@loopinnerthe]

It stands a lesson. It stands as a functional table. It stands as a fun video. It stands as a team effort. It stands as a rescue. You three can stand by it proud.

[@jeffomalley6015]

I think it came out awesome. With a light bulb under the table to light up the epoxy would look amazing.

[@pamelawalsh8153]

Black Diamond pigments are great, but the white you used just doesn't get opaque without thickening the epoxy at ¼". Better to add an opaque white with it, or put white primer down first.

[@davidfisk3274]

I really think you a great job saving the table it looks great . What kind of polish do you use?

[@joshuaroberts8764]

I'd want that table...maybe not for the price of all the parts & labor but that looks like a nice tabletop

[@AdubsMMA]

Shoulda poured red in the blue cracks, and blue in the red cracks.

[@-paulmp]

I reckon a super dark stain on the wood would work to make it less "sucky"... still better than anything I've ever made

[@ResinWoodTablesNZ]

I did the same thing on a 160kg pour of deep cast and that baby was smokin, Where the cracks were we inserted Native Matai same as top and she turned out to be Smokin Kool. Love your vids, keep it up brother....

[@jackww839]

Great idea with the logo….saved the table 👏

[@jamiesmithnc]

What are those "toothy" hold-down clamps that you used on the CNC to grab the slab from the side?

[@carl3500]

How to clean your 5 gallon buckets or is it one and done

[@Bshwag]

stick some light under the table to shine through that will make the color pop.

[@xSling0x]

God bro your the embodiment of how I want to do a woodworking shop. Fuckin around, havin fun, and getting shit done. If only I had millis I could actually make a shop lol

[@blujay1304]

How do they always manage to fog up the resin

[@moleary42]

Since in theory the 2 colours were in equilibrium when you initially poured them you should have been able to pull the dam out immediately... Would've been a lot harder to hide any cracks if the colours had mixed though so uh blessing in disguise?

[@jjs811]

Another great one. Thanks for sharing!

[@dylanhartshorn3136]

Also a another idea can you guys bring back 3 different ways to build something

[@EdHadder]

I Love John's Videos 💗✌🏻💐

[@Krunkle78]

I think it looks great bro! you guys did a great job! :)

[@flimfloun2643]

any way to outline the logo on the cnc to make it pop more? Zero and then do an offset, fill with a darker color/black...

[@RogueCow]

So what happenned, did the ac go out in the middle of the night or did you need to be running fans on it to keep it cool?

[@stevedewbre8905]

I wonder if using a thin piece of Acrylic for the dam would have worked better. Maybe even giving you an option to just leave it in place when all was said and done

[@Richardnightingale-yn5vs]

I think that’s a cool table, hello from south wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@trumanhaeny3415]

Hey John! Thanks for all you and your team provide. My friends and I love watching your builds and learning. We are getting a CNC and we’re curious what you charge people to use yours? Is it let job? Per hour? How would you recommend going about that? Thanks!

[@rmc5775]

Nice save! I might have put the logo the other way so it is red white and blue instead of blue white and red but Que Dieu bénisse les USA.

[@karulach]

Finish on the polished epoxy?

[@Hellsong89]

Not black but darker stain on the wood and seeing how runny that left over epoxy was.. if you cant make it perfect, make it least adjustable.. in this case you can always go darker. Mix in black coloring and pour the cracks and imperfections in the wood. This way it looks like it was designed to be like that. While it was great lesson to see how doing it way in the video trying to fix it, changing the design like i would have just makes it look like it was all part of the plan. Difference between pro and amateur is truly just how well you hide your mistakes. Also if i had even a 1K$ on the line.. i would be baby sitting that slab whole fucking night to get it right.

[@jackww839]

Okay…..now I think y’all are doing this on purpose 😂😂😂 love y’all ….thanks for all the fun👍

[@MultiScampi]

Shame it didn't got to plan, excellent save tho I've got to admit 👌🤘🤘🤘

[@MCsCreations]

You know what? I liked it! It turned out great! 😃 Really well done, guys!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@diyhandcraftedlifestyle9151]

Absolutely like all the stuff you guys make

[@kefalcovinn4572]

It's still a beautyfull table man 🤩👌👌👌

[@markroper9269]

Love the video! It turned out pretty nice! More like a potted plant instead of a dog poo!! 😛 Have a great week!

[@jengraham1034]

It looks amazing.

[@fredmyers503]

Almost like you should have embraced the cracks. added a few and done some gold resin to make it look like you did some Kintsugi could have been sweet. but at least you saved it. But i would like to see an epoxy attempt at Kintsugi!

[@Braddy_Daddy]

Came out great, didn’t suck!

[@Adam-go5de]

Had this happened to me literally two days ago except I was only pouring 2 inches of the deep pour liquid glass. Had a dark grey mica powder epoxy poured on the bottom already and almost set so I poured my 2 inches of clear on top and came back the next day to massive cracks all the way through the grey epoxy. Not impressed with liquid glass now.

[@John_Malecki]

How hot was the room ?

[@Adam-go5de]

@@John_Malecki room was kept at 75 degrees F

[@tinycuisine6544]

Nice save. What would have happened if youI had let the red and blue mix. I think it would have been nice.

[@Nomadboatbuilding]

There is nothing worse in the world of building shit than having to throw a shit-ton of work into un-shitting something that started shit and came out less shit. Sort of. Respect boys. I have felt your pain.

[@bg2608ret]

Nice recovery

[@rustybones1499]

Could you light it from underneath to bring out the blue more?