I Attempted This AWESOME Fire Emblem Roguelike...

[@kratosmvn_]

What did you all think of this different type of video? Would you like to see more like this in the future? Don't forget to like the video for JERRY and subscribe if you haven't done so already. 🧡

[@VALTOGALORTO]

is it possible to have the map change with new runs ? - with secret items to discover in a map - i see there are shops, but are there secret shops too ?

[@gamingbryan6410]

how to use the file? it's not opening

[@Savaris96]

The Idea of the Dancer being a buff dude makes me think that he just Flexes and hypes up whoever he grants the extra turn

[@kratosmvn_]

[@youraverageuser7039]

hype man pretty pog

[@TheDodeAbides]

@Savaris96 There was an anime or manga where the buffers and healers wer all crazy buff guys was pretty funny. Might be the manhwa Solo/Lone Necromancer

[@bigslappy823]

That armor knight in the fort looked at the hit rates and said "Nah we playing FE6 today!"

[@kratosmvn_]

😂😂😂😂 It really felt like an FE6 moment.

[@christopherrseay3148]

fe6 has the same system as the other gba titles lol

[@AlexanderLingg]

He's the literal embodiment of "Lmao, just dodge ez"

[@adambyte256]

I did the math based on the displayed probabilities, and yes, you got *very* bad luck. You attacked him 10 times and he attacked you 7 times. Average luck would be you hitting ~7.5 times and him hitting ~3 times. In reality, you hit 4 times and he hit 4 times. Edit: I forgot to account for "true hit," a.k.a. the fact that the game lies about the probabilities. Using the real probabilities, your luck was _even worse:_ you were expected to hit ~8.8 times and he was expected to hit ~2.7 times.

[@lpfan4491]

In both FE6 and 7, I keep getting hit by hitrates below 30%

[@cormoranch1539]

Calls it a roguelike Thief lord can't promote in to rogue mfw

[@kratosmvn_]

LMAO, I actually never thought of that 😂

[@krislegionau4997]

I love having an army of Phantom by my side as I go through countless dungeons. I feel like a Necromancer

[@kratosmvn_]

It is a pretty awesome feeling I'd say!

[@SgtSupaman]

That knight was so wild I wanted to do the math. The odds of that string of hits and misses was .000038%. For context, the most likely event occurring for all of those shots was .1285%.

[@kratosmvn_]

God damn, should have bought a lottery ticket that day

[@bigjelly3384]

Were you taking 2RN into account?

[@SgtSupaman]

@@bigjelly3384 , no. I've heard there is some weirdness in how the game actually calculates hits, but I've never looked into it to see what the difference is. I based my calculations off the on-screen values.

[@SgtSupaman]

Okay, I looked into the double random number approach the game uses for hit rates to figure out what the actual percentages are, and it is even crazier. The odds of that exact string of hits and misses was .00000051%, while the odds for a combination of the most likely of each event was 1.11%.

[@bigjelly3384]

@SgtSupaman yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh that's what 2RN is like lmfao

[@SuntanAlbino]

Yo this rougelike romhack is so cool!! I'm gonna have to try this out asap and I love that all of our units are just phantoms because it helps me stay emotionally detached if they die lmao

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, it's loads of fun! I somehow managed to get attached to some of them despite them having no names lol

[@bad_ill5626]

I think jerry has given clear evidence that Knoll is a monster stuck in a tough situation, save him and he will carry your run lol. Lets go Knoll solo run 😅

[@kratosmvn_]

Knoll wishes he was as a cool as Jerry 😎

[@anthonylowe8819]

I’d love an actual full rogue lite with fire emblem mechanics. This might be the most thing i didn’t know I wanted 😊

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, I'd love if they did an official spin-off as a roguelite/roguelike.

[@duusu2608]

It turns out Canas went into FE8 only to promote into a summoner and make phantoms. His absolute masterpiece of a phantom was Jerry 🎉

[@kratosmvn_]

LMAO, imagine if after all this is all created by a summoner.

[@duusu2608]

@@kratosmvn_ This whole Romhack is like chess between two summoners 🤣. Phantoms vs. Illusions

[@Battagang]

I just love how far off my guess was. Here I am thinking it's some secret message and thinking about characters with the first letter B, and it's just a rogue like. 8.4/10, would recommend

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, you tried to galaxy brain it a little too much, but good effort nonetheles. 😂 It is a great hack, I agree with your rating.

[@I_Am_Grumpee]

this gotta be the first time ive ever seen the chat not be against the streamer for the lols, they actually had your back for the entire playthrough

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, I was quite surprise that no one tried to screw me over lmao.

[@theblasblas]

I think the ballista boats are far too common. The stationary ballistae are fine since you can play around them by staying out of their range, but the ballista boats can basically target anyone on the map due to being able to move making it far too easy to lose low HP units.

[@90kalos1]

I wouldnt have been able to resist the temptation to use double dancers to repeat dance for each other and max their levels

[@kegancentala3661]

I liked the vid. Reminded me of the Pokemon emerald rogue hack. Wish the main girl got to keep some upgrades or someing as you do resets.

[@kratosmvn_]

I'm happy to hear you liked the video :) I heard Pokemon Emerald rogue is a lot of fun!

[@konstantinos-iliasstrempas4594]

when i watch these oldschool fe games as a new fan i'm super greatful that the time crystal exists

[@kratosmvn_]

I love seeing new fans to these games take time to go play / watch content from the older games

[@eforham]

I started with the GBA games and I still think it’s peak FE. But the new games can be punishing and that time crystal seems necessary

[@Barbaryotaku]

Meriette has a funny support conversation with phantom.

[@fubu72]

This is a very cool concept, it'd be also cool if you could name the phantoms when you get them

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, I'd love that too!

[@sinisterdesign]

This is an interesting Rom hack. Have you heard about Together in Battle? If you're interested in the concept of a Fire Emblem roguelike, you should *definitely* check that out.

[@kratosmvn_]

I have not heard of it, but thank you for the suggestion. I always look forward to trying out new fan made roms.

[@dalejhunter1]

Roguelikes look very fun, and I have played one in the form of a Pokemon Roguelike a year ago. My issue with traditional roguelikes is my patience with them - I hate having to start over from scratch with nothing, and nothing to show for my progress. It's a very defeating thing to get so far, only for the game to hand you a loss on a silver platter. I do, however, enjoy when you get something for your efforts anyway - win or lose. In the Pokemon Roguelike, the Pokemon you catch become part of an unlockable Safari Zone which you can add to your team as a Starter Pokemon, you earn money when you can use to buy items to start off with, among other things which can make future runs easier to manage. I'm not saying in general roguelikes should be easier, but a complimentary prize would be nice to show you did really well.

[@kratosmvn_]

From the sound of it, I think you'd like Roguelites a little more where some progression is kept between runs. I recommend Hades to you!

[@xBlake0]

bro can you give me the name of any pokemon roguelike?

[@Naito346]

@@xBlake0 Pokemon Emerald Rogue

[@gamin9wizard945]

Jerry is like a Dynasty Warriors protagonist. He clears an entire frontline on his own while his allies struggle to clear even a single unit they are ganging up upon

[@kristaf5919]

That was really fun to watch! Definitely want to see more in the future! Pretty please?

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you for the feedback, I'm happy to hear you enjoyed it! I'll try to do more of this style of content in the future.

[@danielpayne1597]

I need a fully-fledged version of this, good times to be had

[@kratosmvn_]

The person developing the hack has updated it a few times since I originally played it and it's a lot more fleshed out now, I encourage you to check it out!

[@danielpayne1597]

Awesome! Thanks for the info @@kratosmvn_

[@MH-tg4jt]

I love this hack and I'm glad to see you enjoyed it! Not sure if you are aware yet, but a huge update was made last month! Definitely worth checking out.

[@kratosmvn_]

Yes, I was aware I'll probably revisit it on stream in the next few weeks to check out the update!

[@ShinAk1raSama]

Wait, can't you farm infinite EXP with double Dancer by having them Dance to each other? I think that would make them decent at surviving by Lv20. Of course, I don't know if the game scales enemy levels by your average level or the map number.

[@kratosmvn_]

I didn't even think of that :O , but I guess technically yeah you could. I don't exactly know how the scailling works I'd have to ask the mod creator to figure that out.

[@panwp123]

Probably, but it wastes the most limited resource of all. Your actual limited human lifespan.

[@ShinAk1raSama]

@@panwp123 And that's why I turn off Dancer animations and use frameskips :p

[@leskthedesk9334]

Chapters have a 20 turn limit in which you get game ended if you go over the time limit

[@ShinAk1raSama]

@leskthedesk9334 Turns are irrelevant with this idea, because Dancers' refreshing each other occurs on the same Turn. Dancer A ends action. Dancer B refreshes Dancer A. Dancer A refreshes Dancer B. Ad infinitum.

[@Coolcat2710]

Awesome video will definitely try this

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed

[@zidanewaterflower]

Literally hit the Like button for Jerry.

[@kratosmvn_]

Heyo, Jerry appreciates 😎

[@firebyrd7933]

There is another one called heja's quest. It is fun, but this one looks fun as well.

[@jesusofsuburbia3675]

I recommend this

[@kratosmvn_]

I've heard good things about Heja's Quest, I'll have to look into it.

[@idaten-dragonsoul]

Hetja’s quest is great because it forces you to maneuver exactly one unit around efficiently and safely using every tool available to you. Even in endgame when you’re overpowered the bosses are still extremely strong. Only problem I have with the game is the underdeveloped area outside the labyrinth where there isn’t YET much to do in the current patch

[@jeremyhall2727]

Thanks for the link. I really appreciate it mate.

[@kratosmvn_]

Not problem :)

[@enhasa5653]

Our man was really out there unable to dodge anything and hit nothing. Thought he was gonna have a stroke at one point.

[@sindrisuncatcher653]

That knight in the fort in the mountains is my hero.

[@kratosmvn_]

He is a memorable individual indeed, lol.

[@acewindstorm120]

This is so sick I might have to try this myself

[@kratosmvn_]

I really recommend it!

[@another1118]

i really love rogue-like games i played Symphony of War ... and it got me hook and started playing fire emblem ... this game kinda weird to me because it was 1v1 instead of squad vs squad this video was fun to watch

[@kratosmvn_]

Really appreciate your comment, like and sub! Thank you very much. It's always the best way to support a creator. I

[@CaraDeMossoro]

Hi, I'm new here and can someone explain to me how this works? I have no idea how to download these things😢😢😢

[@kratosmvn_]

First, you'll need a copy of an FE8 rom which can be easily found on the internet. Then you'll follow the link in the description and get the file for Illusory Dungeon. Finally, you need a patcher, I personally use one called NUPS (there's a tutorial on how to use this patcher on the FEUniverse Forums), and with that patcher you can easily apply the patch to the fresh FE8 rom to play the game. Hopefully this helps.

[@orthochronicity6428]

So... how long until a Meriette solo run? But seriously, this was a nice video showcasing a cool concept. It's interesting that you're basically just playing a randomized iron man. I was expecting the units to become glass canons, based on your description of roguelikes, but they seemed to snowball in FE style (I don't play roguelikes, so I may just not know what to be looking for). It also gave me an idea for a FE Metroidvania... now if only I had the time to delve into modding... After the Manakete, the doing the same cut to the myrmidon on the fort 2 chapters after legitimate had me apprehensive about what was going to follow the myrmidon out of the fort.

[@kratosmvn_]

Meriette FE8 solo run LOL! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I'd love to see other make FE into X genre of games concept that sounds like a lot of fun to me!

[@jaimereupert4247]

Could've sworn Rogue dungeon games reverted units back to level one wherever you enter the dungeon?

[@kratosmvn_]

Maybe it's a mechanic in some of them, but I don't believe it to be universal.

[@remingtonsloan8331]

I'm surprised you can't name the units or pick profiles for them. That'd be pretty neat.

[@pablomartin1215]

Yoooo this concept its fire how can i support the idea?

[@kratosmvn_]

Follow the link to the romhack page in the description and the best thing to do is play the hack and leave a comment on their post to show your support!

[@pablomartin1215]

@@kratosmvn_ of course ill do It, good luck with the proyect 🔥

[@kalebchua4347]

Woah this looks so fun i need to try this with my buddies!

[@kratosmvn_]

You really should!

[@kaitohsjade6597]

legit that idea would fit fire emblem super good.

[@kratosmvn_]

I really think IS should look into doing a spinoff in that vein instead of another warriors game in the future.

[@WolfBergMenace]

I kinda wish that the units you get had randomized portraits and names so you would get more attached to them

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, I too wished that were the case!

[@Purin1023]

Being able to actually name the phantoms would be cool if possible. Give it more of a nuzlocke feel

[@KarelTheKaiser]

7:30 what a fkin legend

[@TheDodeAbides]

Chat trolled you with that first myrmidon pick. Mounted units OP

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah, they like to do that, lol

[@joestout2326]

this should be the next foundation for the next Fire emblem game

[@kratosmvn_]

It would be great if instead of a warriors style game as a spin off they'd go with something like this.

[@zeldafan1315]

I lost my mind when the shaman was named my name 😂😂

[@flipperflapper6682]

how do you play this game? do you have to have FE8?

[@kratosmvn_]

First, you'll need a copy of an FE8 rom which can be easily found on the internet. Then you'll follow the link in the description and get the file for Illusory Dungeon. Finally, you need a patcher, I personally use one called NUPS (there's a tutorial on how to use this patcher on the FEUniverse Forums), and with that patcher you can easily apply the patch to the fresh FE8 rom to play the game.

[@jeremyhall2727]

Jerry the destroyer is here

[@kratosmvn_]

Let's go Jerry!!!

[@General12th]

Hi Kratos! This is so cool!

[@manicanime7070]

Does this run on gba emulator

[@kratosmvn_]

Yes it does.

[@kayoh9364]

Smashing the like button for Jerry.

[@kratosmvn_]

Jerry appreciates! 😀

[@kyogre-blue]

I did like this video. I'm very curious about FE romhacks, but I've only seen playthroughs, not review/impressions.

[@kratosmvn_]

I've been thinking about maybe doing sort of rom hack reviews / overview series. Thanks for letting me know it's something you'd like.

[@Doomsword0]

@@kratosmvn_I’d really enjoy that!

[@AmoCran3]

Ah so it's from that game that the balista short came from! xD

[@kratosmvn_]

Yep! 😂

[@Doomsword0]

Shoutout to Jerry

[@Doomsword0]

Imagine if Knoll was as good as Jerry

[@kratosmvn_]

Heck yeah for Jerry. If Jerry was the Shaman in FE8 I would love to use him 😂

[@Kiroto50]

That rng. I don't even know what to say

[@AbdulAhad0128]

The armor knight on the fort was secretly Amelia

[@kratosmvn_]

She's tryna show she's great in general 😂

[@meinman7591]

you now must fo a shaman knoll solo run in honor of Jerry!!! also, change my mind, it's Maxe, so axe is in his name

[@kratosmvn_]

Maxe is a perfect name! haha

[@rydrake9509]

Thats Fire Emblem for you when enemies has better Rng luck than the player despite the player having higher hit rate and dodge/avoid rate advantage

[@kratosmvn_]

It's rigged against the player I swear! lol

[@Sothis-lu1we]

The goddess wants a rouge like in three houses or three hopes

[@TheTardysoap]

fantastic content

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you :)

[@blondieanon]

Subscribed for the rise of Jerry.

[@kratosmvn_]

Jerry appreciates it a lot (and I do too)

[@Holon25]

Rouge like just sounds like modern versions of classic arcade

[@Salapass]

Now you have to do a knoll solo run

[@kratosmvn_]

LOL, maybe I do 👀

[@monkeymangamertm2512]

Jerry is my knoll replacement

[@kratosmvn_]

As he should be!

[@scottrauch1261]

After all our maditory eliwood deployments, your just trying to remind us of a time we where nicer, arent you.

[@kratosmvn_]

Damn, I've been found out! 😳

[@devilhdante]

RNGesus was trolling you with fe6's trash hit rates.

[@kratosmvn_]

Yep, it was really just toying with me! 😂

[@bryandauzat293]

So does this mean the Knoll run is coming up?

[@kratosmvn_]

Not necessarily, but I'll get to Knoll at some point!

[@thesquishedelf1301]

What's the deal with Shamans?!?

[@kratosmvn_]

Just a big meme in my videos because I make fun of Knoll a lot so people like to bring shamans up in general.

[@thesquishedelf1301]

@@kratosmvn_ damn it I had a feeling I needed to label it Seinfeld

[@kratosmvn_]

Omg, now I feel so dumb hahaha the reference was so obvious.

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

wish i could play this as well, just absolutely no clue how to.

[@kratosmvn_]

Follow the link in the description, and install the app NUPS which allows you to patch an FE8 rom to make this hack work.

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

@@kratosmvn_ thanks!

[@nikidelvalle]

It's kind of sad that the characters you can recruit aren't actual characters from the games, that would be super cool.

[@kratosmvn_]

I believe another Roguelike uses characters from the games will have to look into that one eventually.

[@overlordjames6644]

The way he explains what a Rouge Like is makes me never want to play a Rouge Like.

[@kratosmvn_]

hahahaha, I do make it sound pretty bad

[@overlordjames6644]

@@kratosmvn_ I hear Rouge lites are okay though. They allow you to get more items in the next run or extra stat boosts for your character each time you play depending on how far you got, so it doesn't feel like you just wasted 3 hours. Lol

[@SeigeGoat]

jerry the goat 😤😤😤

[@kratosmvn_]

Heck yeah!!!

[@ZX-Gear]

Okay. I confused this with Hetja's Quest for some reason

[@kratosmvn_]

I mean the confusion is normal, they are both similar.

[@GBlockbreaker]

reminds me a lot of the roguelike gamemode in Arknights

[@Powerghost1.0]

There is another Fire Emblem Rougelike called Hetjas Quest.

[@kratosmvn_]

I've heard of it and I've been meaning to try it out at some point :)

[@doctorkeythir7159]

i cant seem to figure out how to run this myself

[@kratosmvn_]

First, you'll need a copy of an FE8 rom which can be easily found on the internet. Then you'll follow the link in the description and get the file for Illusory Dungeon. Finally, you need a patcher, I personally use one called NUPS (there's a tutorial on how to use this patcher on the FEUniverse Forums), and with that patcher you can easily apply the patch to the fresh FE8 rom to play the game.

[@doctorkeythir7159]

@@kratosmvn_ thank you man

[@timothywilliams9030]

I can’t believe they CHANGED nomads to bow knight

[@hidekidate9290]

Like for Jerry!

[@kratosmvn_]

Heck yeah! Jerry appreciates it!

[@oliviergagnon8719]

Thats dope

[@kratosmvn_]

It was very dope 😎

[@arjunheart5859]

Is this a ROM hack? I enjoyed when I played Sacred Stones on emulator.

[@kratosmvn_]

Yes, it is. You need to simply patch it over a copy of Sacred Stones.

[@Bluedemon52]

Do it again!

[@ogreen383]

If anyone sees this can u please tell me how to play this?

[@kratosmvn_]

For this all you need is a fresh copy of FE8, download the patch from the link in the description of the video, and get the program NUPS, From there, the program is really straightforward, but you put the Illusory dungeon file in the 'UPS patch' section of the program and the rom in the one called 'file to patch'. And everything should work perfectly from there.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

The games you showed off at the beginning are considered roguelites.

[@kratosmvn_]

I know, but most people don't care about the differences of roguelites and roguelikes because the base elements of both genres are inspired from Rogue. Things like procedurally generated dungeons and permadeath are things you'll find in the games at the start and roguelikes alike. In the grand scheme of things, the minute classification doesn't actually matter to most gamers because both genres, to most people, boil down to a very similar experience.

[@rayette715]

so its like disgaea but a continuous map

[@kratosmvn_]

I've never played Disgaea so I wouldn't know.

[@rayette715]

@@kratosmvn_ it's technically not a rouge like but I thought you could make and raise generics and run them through the item world, which is a really big dungeon which you use to augment weapon stats

[@Masterom2000x]

The issue with missing a 75% chance 15 times is why I stopped playing a ton of the old fire emblems lol.

[@kratosmvn_]

LOL, I get that sometimes that makes me want to just stop playing too.

[@patrickborgdeleon6191]

Really wish we can play this on mobile 😭

[@kratosmvn_]

That would be fun for mobile players

[@nikkimason5953]

10 months late but it should be Jerry the Carry

[@i4NiLeon11]

Looks like it’s still a tactics game.

[@kratosmvn_]

Make sense given it's still at base a Fire Emblem game.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

So lunatic fire emblem

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah kind of 😂

[@zackdestroyers6524]

I flopped jerry the shaman😊

[@chrisclifton192]

Hey we gave you random units in a game built entirely around strategically positioning those units. Hard. Pass. Roguelike works for about 2 genres of gaming. For everything else? I get that it makes it more challenging, but…. hard pass.

[@dragongrandmaster]

not a fan of turn limits in a rogue like imagine isaac had a short timer every map no rewards after a run whats the point then

[@Jesus-iv7bh]

I love your videos but watching you play makes my butt clench

[@kratosmvn_]

hahahaha I get that. I like playing on the edge and letting luck do its thing.

[@Eldiran1]

I'm gonna be honest. The fact that they use "basic" looking character don't do the job for me. I know random generated character for fire emblem exist, especialy at AI ages. What i love about fire emblem is that i become attach to my units because i saw them progressing but also because they have personnality and cool look. Because it's a Roguelike, i understand the fact that they will not have personnality (too much work) but at least they can have something else than the soldier look, it's not that hard to do.

[@Raylightsen]

Roguelikes sucks

[@askahope9980]

It still baffles me how little people know about the difference between Roguelikes and Roguelites. None of the games you've featured in the beginning of the video are Roguelikes.

[@kratosmvn_]

None? I showed Binding of Issac, which I am pretty sure is a pure roguelike. Either way, it doesn't matter whether the games are roguelike or roguelite. The differences between both genre are so slim that most people kind of lump it all together because at the end of the day you're running around in procedurally-generated dungeons and if you die, it's permadeath you have to start over again.

[@askahope9980]

@@kratosmvn_ You've probably never heard of the Original Rogue, then. Y'know the whole genre "Soulslike", don't you? It's based on a franchise you probably know too. Roguelike are, in essence, games similar to Rogue. I'm talking about Nethack, Angband, ToME4, DCSS, Dwarf Fortress, Wazhack, Cataclysm BN and among *many* others. Just because a game has permadeath and is procedurally generated, doesn't mean it immediately mirrors Rogue. That's why *Roguelite* was created, games that pick some core features of the original Rogue while being nothing like it... and even so, some games are called Roguelites while having only one qualifying feature.

[@kratosmvn_]

@askahope9980 no need to tell me the history, buddy, I'm well aware of the game Rogue. By the way, your whole message read as a: "Well, actually... 🤓". So, on behalf of most of the gaming community, who doesn't care about the actual difference between both genres, I'd like to formally apologize to you for this mistake, officer. Next time I try to make a larger point in a video, I'll make sure to check in with the fun police before, to avoid making such a major and egregious mistake. 😂😂😂

[@askahope9980]

@@kratosmvn_ Have fun playing an actual Roguelike once in your life.