I Bought a 1968 Pontiac GTO for $20K and it's FAKE!!!

[@GeekGinger]

$20k for a nice LeMans convertible? Not bad, really.

[@happydays8171]

That's what I thought.

[@jake_of_the_jungle9840]

I Paid 9k for my original 69 lemans hardtop with the 400 auto. amazing driver car I’ll never get rid of it

[@docholliday1970]

I purchased in '06 a 1968 Pontiac LeMans , for $2500 . Solar Red w Pearl White interior, factory dual exhaust , 350-4bl w TH350 .Drove it for 6 yrs, set it up . Working on getting it back on the road Fall of this year or by Spring of '23. My father 72 and I at 51 , looking to put it in Parades , Car Shows and Cruise -Ins , while I still have him around.

[@gregwelch389]

The vin number on a gto in that era will start with 242. It would have come with a 400 cubic inch motor.

[@TheHuckster100]

Randy knew it wasn't real when he bought it, his performance ain't gonna win any Oscars. Regardless, nice car and video!

[@oldrrocr]

your first clue: a 68 GTO for $20k.

[@mikeclark8190]

He had to know, anyone who looks at a GTO checks for the 242 on the trim tag.

[@Pedroisanickname]

It's as fake as his acting, but way more real. Truth is, I never liked people taking me for a chump. Eff this channel! Time to unsubscribe!

[@YokaiTheGSD]

@@Pedroisanickname peace out Pedro 👋

[@BarryMcCockener74]

Obviously. Nobody would buy a 50+ year old classic without being curious enough to look up a vin decoder, the codes on the cowl tag, the pad stamp numbers, etc. Nice car and a nice find for the money, but the clickbait shit and acting detracts from his video.

[@fatness74]

Just as future reference after 65 the GTO became its own model, so starting in 66 the Vin on GTOs start with 242. Still a nice car. I would badge it back as a Lemans and drive the hell out of it.

[@fasteddy917]

The problem with being old is this is my era of car. When you said LeMans, yes it looks to be a LeMans. Had you said G.T.O. you would have been told, no it's not. Common thing to do was go to the Pontiac dealer and buy the badge package and re-badge the car when they were new. I think you got a fair deal for the money. I'd pull the G.T.O. badges off it and enjoy the car as you repair it.

[@carlosdj4884]

I owned an original Dark Green 1964 Lemans GTO Convertible, came w Dual Hood Scoop Vents (not ram induction), Chrome Air Filter cover, Chrome Valve Covers, Chrome Oil Filler Cap & Bumpers too ( I will look for some pictures to see if I can post) Sold it in 1973 to buy A New Monte Carlo.

[@mikemullay5622]

No you did not get ripped off in any way shape or form. At worst call it a tribute car. At best it is a Lemans convertible for 20K. You win either way.

[@Rick-Williams59]

If the VIN doesn't start with 242 then it ain't a real goat. GTO never installed a 350 until 1974.

[@DanEBoyd]

With a T/A style shaker scoop sitting atop that Poncho 350!

[@bobsmithinson2050]

I love when people know THIS much about a certain model. 👍👍

[@tonywalton2562]

car title would tell him what he had this video stupid i spend 19k but didnt look at the car title ?? lol

[@stwhite5135]

@@tonywalton2562 Exactly.

[@mikebrown8065]

The bigger I6 was 350 c.i.d. but obviously that's not Randy's case!! 😎

[@73ac39]

That looks like a nice well loved Lemans. Put all the Lemans emblems back on it. It's way better than the junk boxes I've seen at the TV auctions I've been to. You did good I think, for the money.

[@gt-37guy6]

Agreed, now a nice condition Le-Mans is getting difficult to find. I really despised the GTO "Clone" era when it began in the 90s...bunch of wanna - be - posers in my opinion. Had a neighbor that was into that, buying up 1965 - 1967 Tempests and Lemans and cough cough..."converting" them. Now he has been doing the same with 1971 LeMans, making them into GT-37 Clones...I hate it. He yanked out the original 350 from a REAL GT-37, dumped in a crappy 455 and unloaded it on some poor sucker, would be worth 2 X that if he left the original motor in - he "disposed" of the original motor...what a fool. His last one he said he was putting in a BUICK 455, I just turned around and shook my head....idiot.

[@tonywalton2562]

car title would tell him what he had this video stupid i spend 19k but didnt look at the car title ?? lol

[@tonywalton2562]

@DeVon Taruex car title along should of told them i think they put video out to get people to watch it clickbate video

[@tonywalton2562]

@DeVon Taruex clickbate

[@rustynail9077]

Randy you should stay away from the classics until you learn more about them. Stick to what you know.

[@malibuconv1968]

He doesn't know much...

[@blaster-zy7xx]

He knew all along. He was just making the video more compelling after purchasing a copy and he knew it.

[@sumbeech1484]

@@blaster-zy7xx Right , how could you not know it was fake ! 1-VIN TAG , 2- Front bumper , 3- 350 engine, Only being 19K should of clued you in..........................

[@bhwjrproductions]

I’m pretty sure that all GTO cars had twin hood scoops from the factory although not all of them were functional, you need the Ram Air option for them to be functional

[@CR7659]

18K for a LeMans convertible that doesn't need too much sorting isn't bad.

[@DanEBoyd]

That's what I'm thinking, since that is a very nice car overall.

[@peterschancel7223]

Agreed guys .I would get the Dual Scoop GTO hood to finish the Deal. A drive by looker , All the bones for a restomod as well

[@snowdogs59]

Agreed. I’d just complete the upgrade to GTO specs and run it like that. Enjoy it who cares what anybody else thinks.

[@funkynassau..4881]

Dude it's obvious you know NOTHING ABOUT CARS.....

[@funkynassau..4881]

Then you had the car one week and then checked the oil......lol....

[@FunkyBangagong]

You definitely have some people that know what they are talking about here. Your distributor appears to be clocked correctly as the vacuum diaphragm is toward the driver side of the car. If the car is not missing and performing well, who cares. It is more likely that someone installed the Accel HEI cap backwards. Again, probably doesn't matter. However, If you check the timing, you may also notice it needs to be advanced. The diaphragm that attaches to the distributor base, usually orientates more toward the number 1 cylinder. Even though its' not an authentic '68 GTO, It's probably a nice and authentic '68 Le Mans Convertible! Nothing wrong with that.

[@brianmorrison7016]

It looks like a Lemans to me, still for what you paid it’s good, beautiful car

[@jgill1175]

Actually Randy there was an option on the GTO’s for Endura delete, and the car would come with the chrome front end from the Lemans. She’s still a good looking car, and I think you got a great deal on it

[@timothyharrison8953]

If it's not a rust bucket, it's not bent, or mechanically damaged you have a nice tribute car.

[@williamsteward2170]

you actually got a good deal. I would change the badges to LeMans

[@1STLAR2147]

Vin should start with a 2 for Pontiac, the next two digits should say 42 for GTO 37 for Lemans, 35 for tempest custom, or 33 for tempest. Next two digits will say 67 for convertible next digit will say 8 for 1968, next will tell you which plant it was built at. And the next will tell engine size 1through 5

[@richboimagic]

When you said temptest, it brought me back to My Cousin Vinny in the court room 😂

[@danielcarter5579]

Would love to see what the Vin was

[@truckingwithgerald7532]

@@richboimagic that's what I thought too lol

[@SweatyFatGuy]

The VIN did not have the engine size until 71 or 72, depending on which car it was, e.g. A, B, or F body. The 7th digit is a letter, not a number showing the displacement. The fun ones have an X. Any Pontiac with an X in the VIN is something special.

[@williamsporing1500]

124267 is what this should have started with. Of course you can buy fake vin plates now too. There are other ways to tell if it’s fake too. When I was prez of the OVGTO association we judged the nationals in St. Louis. Dude spent 40k restoring a goat, but it wasn’t a goat. Everything looked great on the car, but we did some deep snooping on it and it was a tempest.

[@u2fan29]

You got a Lemans and is not April 1st, now get a Cuttlass with 442 stickers .

[@justsomerandomguy4269]

Classic cars are just great. Today my dad picked up a 1975 Audi 80 with less than 50k original miles in original condition. The looks and smiles the car gets from people passing by are more than something like a modern AMG or even an Porsche could ever get. People just love it and I love it too.

[@CraigCatapano]

Nice find Randy. So this car is rust free?

[@howardfletcher4353]

If you knew it was a 1968 Pontiac Lemans than no you did not get ripped off. And the GTO would come with a 400 in it But I’m sure by now you know all that. still it’s a really cool car

[@jonhboleware3409]

You got a good deal its a nice lemans. Gto has 242 in ven plate

[@lemuelsaunders767]

I just said the same thing. All '68 GTO came with the 400 blocks in them. My buddy has one. Wow look at the bumper, the quarter panel will tell you that. Also, where is the other side mirror? They came with the tear drop side mirrors.

[@steve-ph9yg]

I knew it was 68 Lemans I owned one green with white top and interior. The hood was wrong the engine was wrong and the bumper but if I remember a few of them did have chrome bumpers. Ok with that all said it’s a nice car the price wasn’t that bad.

[@wade4060]

Exactly. He said in a previous video he was thinking about buying a lemans. Was this just for more views?

[@johnnysalazar5163]

They also had the hide away lights and will have the 'GTO' name on the grill instead of the 'PONTIAC' badge. Some lemans did come with the 400 ci, I think those were the GT37 models, other than that, they had 350 small blocks which is still a good engine. The thing about the BPO (buick, pontiac, oldsmobile) they made powerful 350 small blocks, the most powerful one being the Olds ram rod 350 that was on the cutlass S

[@mikeswartz3146]

I think a lemans or even a tempest are both good to go.

[@jeffcolmus4900]

Pontiac LeMans still collector's item worth a lot of money especially being convertible

[@bradleysample3246]

20k in good shape may have original 350 Pontiac,not bad

[@thunderroad7289]

Looks really nice after wash. If the vin starts with 242 there is a very good chance it’s a GTO but if it starts with 237 then it’s a lemans. Even if it’s a lemans you still got a good price for it

[@zackatron925]

Pretty common for a Lemans to get rebadged as a GTO, still just as cool of a car. Pop the GTO badges off and drive her!!

[@danielcarter5579]

That's for sure have Auto spa remove

[@michaeltutty1540]

What bugs me is when people make a "GTO wagon". The LeMans wagon was rare enough.

[@gator2813]

@@danielcarter5579 It's called a clone or a tribute car. Still worth a lot of money in decent condition.

[@mikeswartz3146]

Check the vin to see it's a real gto knuckles.

[@user-fb8lq5bt5s]

You bought a very nice re-badged Le Mans, enjoy it for what it is.

[@greggalletta8679]

You knew this was a LeMans when you bought it. It’s still a nice car.

[@ZeGermanHam]

That's what I'm thinking. This stinks of manufactured internet "drama". If the previous owner openly told Randy it had a 350ci, that's obviously a major indicator it's not a GTO, since the '68 GTO was never equipped with a 350ci. Also the chrome bumper is a dead giveaway. A simple look at the tag on the firewall would also show whether it's a GTO or LeMans. That's classic car buying 101, and I have a hard time that Randy, who is someone who routinely buys cars, would not have done that very basic task before buying. It would also say what is is on the vehicle registration. $20k is an appropriate value for a restored LeMans, but nowhere near the value of a restored GTO. I'm positive Randy knew this and was just playing it up for the audience.

[@rarelibra]

@@ZeGermanHam a "6.5 liter" tag (which means it would be a 389) .. and the guy tells him it's a 350, which GTOs didn't run with in '68... the guy obviously doesn't know goats very well

[@ZeGermanHam]

@@rarelibra I wouldn't be so quick to throw stones with regard to knowing GTOs, as it would appear you are not fully informed either. 6.5L badges were used on GTOs equipped with the 389ci and 400ci engines. The 455ci equipped GTOs that came later in the run used 455 numbers rather than denoting engine size in liters as was done previously. And for the record, 455ci is around 7.5L, not 6.5L. But regardless, it was pretty obvious that this car was not a real GTO. Someone with even a basic knowledge of classic muscle cars or quick access to the internet would have known that, which is why I don't appreciate the manufactured drama (i.e., lying) in this video.

[@scotteastin3078]

68 Lemans, I'd take it over a GTO, personally, not as desirable but just as beautiful and fun to cruise, you did great

[@robertwright5487]

GTO's of that year came with a 400 cubic inch engine. 4 or 5 different options of the 400 to include a 2 barrel step down option. The endura bumper was another option. Standard was the chrome plated bumper. They all came with hood scoops. The Ram Air versions are operational. Another difference are the tail lights. They are long vertical slot type. The convertible top has its own fuse. Nice looking car. Probably a LeMans or Tempest. Not a bad price at all.

[@peterjlindley]

As soon as you saw the front end you should have known it wasn't a GTO. Still a nice car. The car would have come stock with 14" rims, with a 70 profile. The ralley II wheels look great on it. GTO's came with 400 ci engines or the rare 428 option. So it shouldn't be a 350. The motor's painted the correct colour so maybe it is the stock motor. If you confirm that it isn't a GTO I'd peel off the fake GTO emblems and put the stock LeMans emblems on.

[@dannycasler4959]

The 428 was never offered in the GTO, Up until 1970 GM did not allow any engine larger than 400 cubic inch in the A body, However the 455 was offered in 70 through 1973

[@lenismcclellan3744]

@@dannycasler4959 Pontiac offered a 421CI in 67 GTO, I drove 0ne in HS.

[@RandomGuyDan]

He knew it was a clone from the price and, if he knows anything about GTO's, the engine. It's a beautiful car though.

[@mikemullay5622]

@@lenismcclellan3744 I owned a 4 speed 1962 Catalina coupe with a 421 in it. But the engine was not original to the car. But it sure had plenty of giddyup.

[@Thomas63r2]

I second the notion to install the correct LeMans emblems when you repaint it

[@acg4investor]

If 242 On V. N. That is a GTO!!

[@acg4investor]

Earlier '68 GTO Have Chrome & Later Have Endura & It will Said GTO Not Pontiac On It!!

[@acg4investor]

More I See It & This is a Lemans Car!!

[@neilhartigan7456]

No you did not get ripped off! You got a car you can drive without any worries. And isn’t that why we drive cars that are classic convertibles? Good luck with it. Because it’s a lot better than that hellcat

[@goleafsgo8496]

Exactly Neil I have a driver quality 81 Z28 and don't have to worry if some little excited kids puts his sticky hands on it in a parking lot. Museums are great but to many of these beautiful cars get bought as a status symbol and get stuffed away into some rich guys garage never to see the sun again, or goodness help us the rain.

[@neilhartigan7456]

@@goleafsgo8496 Believe it or not they’re called garage Mahal‘s rhymes with Taj Mahal that’s where cars go to die

[@braddahaloha3631]

The 68 Goat did have a polyurethane plastic front bumper.. making it unique to the breed. Evidently, somewhere in time, it got into a front-ender, and found then to be, most economical to recycle a Lemans clip in repairing it.. Check the VIN info provided earlier and it should start with 242. Today, this may have been declared "salvage title" lol.

[@andymonroe6136]

My father had a 68' with a chrome bumper. If I'm not mistaken there was a rebate offered due to a shortage on the endura front ends. There was also a factory delete option. I hope this information is accurate. 👍

[@jeffbranch8072]

@@andymonroe6136 , yes, there was a delete option, and there are authentic GTO's with chrome bumpers.

[@braddahaloha3631]

Here it is guyz; 1968 GTO info from Hemmings - on OPTION 674 - factory installed lemans chrome bumper More noteworthy was the Endura nosepiece bonded to a metal frame that doubled as the front bumper, complete with Pontiac's traditional split grille. Exposed horizontal quad headlamps were positioned inside the bumper, which could have been hidden behind optional doors that matched the grille pattern. Sturdy yet flexible, it was capable of withstanding minor, low-speed impacts. Alignment, poor paint adhesion and color match concerns were noted at the time, but buyers could also select option 674 to have a conventional chrome bumper installed on their GTOs, complete with Le Mans-style grilles. Concealed headlamps were not available with this option. Of the 2,108 GTOs to leave the assembly line so equipped, 16 contained a Ram Air 400.

[@braddahaloha3631]

Yup, in 68 the Goat also got new sheet metal (3rd gen) boosting sales to almost 90,000 units, of which 9,980 were convertibles.. 1/5 on option 674 - chrome bumper w/ no "hide away" headlites (2,108)

[@HeavyTanker1945]

GTOs never sold with 350s to my knowledge. Either the engines been replaced. Or it's a Tempest or a Lemans Convertible with GTO badging

[@davidgalinat4257]

The only GTO with a 350 was the Ventura-based '74.

[@vetgiggers]

Most likely just a clone gto

[@HeavyTanker1945]

David Galinat or the Holden based 5.7 LS engine ones from the early 2000s

[@davidgalinat4257]

@@HeavyTanker1945 Not a 350, but yeah, small block 5.7.

[@michaelerickson1518]

You could get a 350 automatic colom shift bench seat GTO convertible in 1968

[@1970PMD]

Chrome front bumper was an option on the 1968 GTO along with the new Endura nose. However the hood without scoops was not, the rear tail lights and shifter also give it away that it is a Lemans not a GTO. VIN number and cowl data plate should have warned you, if all that has been changed then the frame itself its stamped with original VIN number.

[@briantayler1230]

G'day from OZ, this is exactly the type of car that Australians love to buy and ship over here. That car is worth every penny of its price and I think it is a great car and does not need anything except a good bath. Well done. If you knew its value here, you would be shocked.

[@spiritusmalingus343]

You're in Australia, you can't leave your home without the po-po coming up behind you with a swab.

[@briantayler1230]

@@spiritusmalingus343 Not if you live in Queensland, no lockdowns, no Covid cases, and weather like Florida. It is hard to live in God's country.

[@josephdougherty2399]

Funny true GTO story from my youth... I was 17 in highschool and I was seeing a girl who just got her driver's license. We were supposed to go out one night and when I got there her dad said "I just bought Sherry a car,. Do me a favor and take her out on some back roads and work with her on learning to drive a manual while your out and hands me a set of poncho keys.... We walk out to the garage and here sits a cute later model GTO that was based on the Ventura (nova) body... At this point they were pretty anemic usually because of being smogged down ... So anyway ...off we went ...backed out of the garage and down the driveway...got on the road...slipped it into first and took off and slightly spun the tires taking off... Whoops ... Driving it I thought...man ...this car is pretty quick... Once on the highway I got into it a bit....That thing was really fast. Out of curiosity I pulled off in a gas station and popped the hood...someone had transplanted an earlier Ram Air IV 400.. holy crap....in a Ventura body it made it pretty formidable. So I made an excuse to take the car home and grab my Torino GT and go out ...we got back to the house I asked her to go inside and grab me something to drink and pulled her dad aside....he was not an automotive type...he just saw a cute car and bought it . I explained what he had there... I said to him...."I think this may be too much car for a novice driver" he agreed ....and I begged him not to her I said anything... Anyways ..he ended up buying her a Monte Carlo and made up a story about how something was wrong with the red GTO.... LMAO...

[@rickpallamolla8390]

6.5 litre was the 389. 6.6 is the 400. Those are pre 67 badges on the fenders.

[@jeffbranch8072]

Technically the 389 is a 6.4L, Pontiac didn't make a real 6.5L, it was just a badge with an approximate number. Who cared about liters in the '60's? That was just to give it a Euro image.

[@badger7015]

from an old "gear head" to a young "gearhead" your video brought back many great memories and i thank you for them. your car has great bones and with some love and t.h.c. you'll make memories for yourself. i had a 1961 vette that i was restoring and in the process of restoring it i had taken out the whole dash. nothing but the steering wheel. i had also just put on some hookers with side pipes and no baffles in them. this was at night and a state trooper felt it was a little too loud and pulled me over. he was surprised when he came up and looked in. with a little fast talking and his compassion, he let me go. cars gave me many great times. wish the youngsters could experience the same.

[@bobs152]

Just an FYI: In Vegas, a 68 GTO clone is sells for around 25k the convertible makes it worth about 2k more.

[@DanEBoyd]

That's a bad clone job. I'd take it back to all stock LeMANS. That is one nice LeMANS though. A ragtop with AC, and buckets with a console, is a winning combo!!

[@TheLexusIS250Dude]

I live in vegas as well

[@That_AMC_Guy]

GTO's of that era never came with anything less than 400 cubes. You've got a LeMans convertible. Still, not bad for 18k.

[@jeffbranch8072]

There were exceptions in '64. Pontiac only expected to make a one time run of 5000 GTO's and be done. (They were breaking GM rules.). It was a runaway success and they ran out of correct 389's, so some late '64's came with a 326 HO. There were always exceptions.

[@SteveWidlund]

Price you paid is still good, just sad it was misrepresented.

[@ryanaddy1135]

GTO or not , you still have a beautiful ride! It's still weird that people have to be deceptive when they sell something and it's a crappy way to live but you're driveway is looking nice!

[@jbshuggy]

We all know Randy loves his old cars... and it being that pull me over red too... that's just over the top. My grandpa had a gasoline green colored Pontiac Lemans as well. Beautiful vehicles. Great video Randy!

[@neildonnelly5029]

You got a nice car for that price

[@donnysmith946]

That year GTO only had 1 engine the 400cu in NO other engine was available in the GTO for that year. For sure not a 350

[@scliradalandsman8201]

Randy, it’s an absolutely Gorgeous car for under $20k. That is an Amazing Purchase!!!

[@randyp6370]

VIN should start with 242 GTO, 237 LeMans, and 235 Tempest.

[@dougburg3210]

and you're not going to find a 68 gto with a chrome bumper. not for 20 grand.

[@LoganOlien]

@@dougburg3210 Not all 68 gtos had enduras, some did have chrome. You just enver see them

[@sumbeech1484]

Rag-top's were 24267 I believe ---- would have to look it up .

[@toolzshed]

18 thou for a Le Mans is a great deal 🤘🏽

[@tannersimons1525]

What do they call the color of your challenger I love to paint my c10 that color

[@ryanstevens6010]

Knowing how you like to prank your friends and viewers I think you knew all along that this wasn’t a GTO. It looks like a decent enough runner that’s just in need of a little polish and refinement and a few upgrades. I might take off the GTO badging and revert it to stock, or otherwise go all-out with a proper engine and bumpers and other things to make a convincing replica/tribute; right now it reminds me of the people with ‘///M’ badges on their basic BMWs - you’re not fooling anyone but the gullible. On a related note I once had a co-worker try to sell me what he said was a BMW 535i. One look at the 14” wheels and 4,400 RPM redline told me that it was just a garden-variety 528e. When I pointed these things out, along with the wrong intake manifold (small six vs big six), the stickers on the door jamb and under the hood that confirmed that it was indeed a 528e he just kept showing me the badge on the trunk and insisting that those other items were wrong. It was an OK car, and I offered a fair price for a 528e (minus the cost for a proper trunk lid badge and timing belt service) but he kept insisting that I was wrong and wanted his full asking price. Uh, no sale - find some sucker that doesn’t know any better.

[@gregory1953able]

My cousin had a 1968 Lemans 2 door Hardtop and it had 14's. Must be different for the convertable.

[@LANTHENS]

I'm glad you like it. The guy you got it from knew it had been rebadged . That is a Le Mans. No hood louvers or hidden head lights.

[@hotrodray6802]

headlights option chrome bumper was an option on GTO

[@Physengineer]

I would love that car. I had a 69 Lemans convertible back in the late 70's early 80s. I would buy one if I found one at a price like that.

[@legendsofcaraudiobradnewso8424]

I had a 1969 Lemans Hardtop with the 350 powerglide. If i remember right, the chrome front end is a dead giveaway on a Lemans as the GTO's were typically paint matched. OK.. i just got to the point of the video were you explained this.. LOL Still a beautiful ride. Mine also had 350 emblems at the bottom of the doors on the rocker panels.

[@johngriffith7032]

I just googled the bumper - there is a '68 GTO at Streetside Classics, listed as a GTO and it has a chrome front bumper. As I recall, the early production cars had chrome bumpers; the endura bumper was not ready for a month or two after production began. Also, Randy's car has Pontiac on the grille, a GTO has GTO on the grille - that was an emblem that wasn't changed.

[@mikedavis5207]

Car looks gorgeous Randy can't wait for a few more videos and if you do the roof id maybe go with a cream white just to make it a lil different and hide the dust better then bright white but I love the car good luck with it

[@nogarage]

Also that is not linex in the trunk GM used to coat their trunks with that spotty looking paint back in the day so Im pretty sure thats all original. My 62 corvair has the same coating in its frunk

[@mikemullay5622]

When I met my wife back in 1982, her brother had a '68 Lemans coupe with a 350 4speed. That car could really get with the program. Red body, black vinyl top and black guts.

[@s0y_s0y26]

Little GTO You're really lookin' fine Three deuces and a four-speed And a three-eighty-nine Listen to her tachin' up now Listen to her whine C'mon and turn it on, wind it up, blow it out, GTO.

[@vetgiggers]

Not all good have 3 deuce in them though

[@robertveith2255]

Where did you get it ????

[@gmcjimmy3580]

That car is solid, either way you came away with a sweet ride.

[@jayswartzbaugh8553]

I agree with those who are saying Randy didn’t get taken in purchasing this re-badged LeMans. He’s been in the car business too long and is too smart to think he could buy a real GTO for under $20k in fair condition. His thumbnail gives away the fact that he knew it wasn’t authentic. He also knows how to generate interest and create views and comments and has done very well with this one. Congrats Randy!

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

Bingo!! Thank you sir!

[@Franklea1966]

The chrome front bumper, the side marker lights that should have been GTO badge shaped, and the missing hood scoops say LeMans. The front bumper should be Endura and painted the body color. It should have a 400 (6.5 litre). It's a nice LeMans, but it's not a GTO, sorry. PHS (Pontiac Historic Services) is where you send the data. Good luck with it, I always loved Pontiacs!!

[@Franklea1966]

Turn the headlight switch, the lights could be dimmed.

[@ndmac440]

The chrome bumper was available for the '68 GTO. The VIN is the only way to be sure and preferrably verified in various hidden body parts.

[@stevedavis7137]

@@ndmac440 This is no goat.

[@ndmac440]

@@stevedavis7137 You must know the VIN, then. Good for you. I did not say it was a genuine GTO for the record.

[@stevedavis7137]

@@ndmac440 No need to know the VIN to recognize the LeMans. For the record?? No, you never claimed it was a goat.

[@paulcook1494]

I wouldn’t say you were ripped off, it’s a sweet old Lemans, enjoy it!

[@okcman34]

you cant buy a true gto convertible for 20 k so you paid a fair price for a clone

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

Agreed.

[@stevecrist4902]

To the best of my memory (owned two GTO's) a real 68 GTO had an Endura (rubber - not chrome) front bumper painted to match the body. Second it would come with a Turbo 400 transmission for an automatic model and include a special dual-gate shifter. Also a 400 inch engine, not a 350. This car had none of that.

[@jeffbranch8072]

You could get chrome bumpers on any '68 or '69 GTO as a delete option. They did make some.

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

Yep. Chrome bumper is possible on a 68 GTO but very rare. However all 68 GTOs are standard with a 400 in motor and either turbo 400 auto or 4 speed. Now my dads 68 GTO did have a bench seat and column shift. The dual gate shifter was an option with console and buckets.

[@stevecrist4902]

@@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 The second generation GTO's had some odd options (or factory deletes). You could get a GTO with a 2 barrel, but like the column shift (bucket delete) they were fairly rare.

[@raybonecrusher4516]

Randy you still got a good buy for a driver. There area lot of lemans GTO clones and they are not cheap. I don't think you will find one for less than you paid.

[@bobthbldr3]

'68 GTO's came with the Endura painted front bumper and small twin scoops in the hood and standard engine was a 400 cubic inch. Also in that condition a real one should have been over $30,000. The seats in it are aftermarket.

[@AZ-JKUR-HR]

Over 2100 of 68 gto's got chrome bumpers. Very rare today.

[@nimakhosravi6476]

For me it dosen't matter its a Le Mans or a GTO. Still a beautiful car though

[@bobbyread]

I have a 4-speed ‘72 LeMans with a 400. It has Holley EFI, RideTech coilovers, C6 Corvette brakes on the front and rear, a Moser 9-inch rear end with Detroit TruTrac and 18 inch wheels. It’s not a GTO, but it’s a lot of fun. It has Vintage Air A/C, so summer road trips are comfortable.

[@stopcensoringmyfreespeech3280]

Clones are still worth a lot of money. It is still a great car even though it not a real GTO its a clone its fine just dont lie like the guy did who sold it to you when you sell it. I bet you can get your money back Its still very cool. Its in great condition. Its actually bad ass. Oil the hood hinges and the latch.

[@giantgeoff]

There were always a ton of fakes, I had two 'real 67s My friends had a total of ten G, i paid 4'200.00 for one and traded a lawn tractor for the second Goats we had no 64,, 72,73, or 74, My friend John has a red and white '68 convertible

[@howardfletcher4353]

I think some redline tires from coker tires would look really good on that car

[@kingboagart899]

Went down to Palm Springs about 10 years ago to look at a 69 Yenko Chevelle. It was very well done and took me about 30 seconds to read the VIN and call the guy on his shit. We settled on 18k and It comes out of my garage on sunny days and is the envy of the neighborhood.

[@glenerickson358]

That's the world of classic cars. A lot of cloned LS6 Chevelles, cloned GTO, cloned Judges, cloned Super Dutys.

[@Vampirelord-bk6wl]

Hey bub is the radio in the LeMans in 8-track or cassette player

[@craigstaggs8597]

The car was a good deal .... However you should pull the seller up on advertising it as a GTO , and for that you can sue him ..... See if he's willing to refund a couple of grand .

[@jaydenbrockington4525]

About the top. I have a 98 mustang gt convertible. Some older convertibles won’t work when the car body gets really hot, so the solution is just drive it and it cools it down, then it turns back on

[@davidadkins6412]

If the seller advertised it as a 1968 Pontiac Gto, then yeah he ripped you off, just my opinion

[@kevinkeeney6693]

But if it was a real GTO, the seller would have asked for at least 10K more. If something is too cheap, there must be a catch.

[@phyrexiancoffee6324]

$20K depending on the miles is still a great deal for a drop top LeMans in that shape.

[@TheAmazingDrCheat]

It's so beautiful now I'm just waiting for a firebird trans am to appear on the channel 😀😀😀

[@ScarlettFire341]

A Car With Soul - Just seeing it's classic lines has some magic appeal. When you start the car something starts in you as well. Your right foot pulls on a cable to open the throttle, basic and direct. It's just simple air and gas it's rawest form doing it's thing. The sounds and vibrations become one with your body. You hear and feel the air getting sucked into the carburetor and blowing out the exhaust. When you shift, your hand can feel the linkage mechanically changing things up. When you let the clutch out your body is sucked back into the seat. You see the hood shake a bit as the nose rises. Give it a bit more gas and the tires scream as reminder that you are not just the driver but have become part of this machine. You sense how everything in this car is connected in a special way not common today. This car has been deliberately put together, one selected piece at a time, to become more than just a machine, but a car with soul. (Written by Me !)

[@volvowagon70]

I would rebadge it back to original.

[@31pilot]

I just read that back in 1968, Pontiac was having a big problem with the paint adhering to the soft front end, so 2,000 cars were produced with the chrome front. So most likely this GTO is one them, and not a LeMans.

[@SH-di8im]

I don’t care what that old car is it will still look better than the dodge Ever will 🤣🤣🤣

[@jasont.1530]

You probably already know this but lemans are often times converted to GTOs because it is so easy to do, parts availability, and popularity make it a no brainer. I have a 73 barracuda and when I bought it I was told it was a 340 bored and stroked to 416...however when I got ripping into the car, its actually a 360 motor by the stampings. 340s are a whole lot more rare than a 360 (Only difference in the engine block is the main). Still got a great deal on the cuda tho...

[@dave4803]

I think you got a great car for the money. Myself I would change the wheels, add the hood scoop, change the worn white top for a black one so it matches the seats, also the white roof with the black interior makes it look like a clown car. Upgrade the exhaust and fit a modern radio that looks classic.

[@billdowhower335]

I'd love to know if my 68 Lemans is still around. It was stolen from me in Florida in 1988! Was green/ gold color with green vinyl top which I died black and green bucket interior. 350-2bbl A/C tilt collum shift power glide tilt power steering pw brakes.

[@markwilson5304]

GTO or Le Mans either way it’s a beautiful car. 👍

[@clittle1559]

there's nothing like them old split wood steering wheels beautiful

[@mitchwithem9647]

The Lemans is more unusual than a GTO I'm sure. I agree with Justin Six about badge it as a Lemans and enjoy it as is. It's a nice car and I think you did alright on the purchase.

[@timgruper1381]

What does the title say? Does the VIN indicate what it actually is?

[@simon_sjw9973]

Looks fabulous anyways Randy, you looked as happy as a pig in shit man loved the video Randy

[@jimjungle1397]

The chrome front bumper was an option on the 1968 GTO because Pontiac wasn't sure if all buyers would like the Endura bumper. There were 2108 1968 GTO's sold with factory installed chromed front bumpers. The grill had GTO on it and not Pontiac though. Could have been in a front end collision, damaging the original grill and hood though.

[@dakotafred1829]

What does the title, bill of sale say?

[@1972Ventura455ho]

If it was a originally 2 bbl engine it will have 17 casting heads, a 350 HO will have 18 casting. On the passenger side of the block right below the heads you'll find the engine code. Even though this is a Lemans in 1968 you could get the chrome bumper on the GTO. Some colors wouldn't stay on the endura bumper and you couldn't get endura and in some cases it was a delete or a credit on the window sticker.

[@RedBud315]

The 6.5 badges are for a 389 motor. The 400 is a 6.6 and came out in 67. The LeMans came with a 350 but, you could option it with a 400. Always check the VIN. If it starts with 237 it's a LeMans. If it starts with 242 it's a GTO.

[@jaylongton]

Some 68 GTO'S came through with the chrome front bumper but it's rare. The taillights are Lemans and not GTO. The VIN will start with 242 for GTO. You can make any of the cap plugs number one therefore rotating the distributor in any direction.

[@ericlarson8749]

Turn the headlight knob when it's pulled out to the on position, maybe wiggle it around gently, that might bring the dash lights back. It's a dimmer type switch, turn it one way to brighten the dash lights or the other way to dim them, that can get mucked up and cause them to not light.