Bro's getting blackmailed and death threats because of a "gift" his parents got him when he was six. Aoyama is not at all to blame.
@rd93017 ай бұрын
Nah, he's a snake and a filthy traitor. Tell that to the people who got killed or suffered as a result of his actions.
@Jnk_X-man7 ай бұрын
Frrrr
@HeWhoTookADumpOnAPorcupine7 ай бұрын
@@zoeylace4778nah, she specifically said that she doesn’t think Aoyama is a bad person. She’s probably just high off of being right after being sus of him for so long.
@playboitex57367 ай бұрын
That’s ok cause I will hit her harder when she comes to realize that the problem that aoyama is going thru very easily could Have been deku rn due to him being born quirkless so yea
@omegashark18377 ай бұрын
Alicia, you forget that All for One was not known to the public until his fight with All Might in season 3. Until then VERY few people knew about him and his dangerous nature.
@powerdork167 ай бұрын
18:07 Just want to remind everyone that All For One wasn't a publicly known threat. He very much stuck to the shadows and the fight between him and All Might was buried. The public didnt know of him. Thats what the government wanted to avoid an uprising. So, while it is still sketch of Aoyama's parents to get a quirk from an unknown man, he wasnt known to be this super evil villain either. And this was before he looked like a nutsack as Bakugo put it lol. So he just looked like a regular guy.
@thedarkemissary7 ай бұрын
But, they still went to him. Meaning them knew about him, how to find him and what he's about.
@Jay-kn1vw7 ай бұрын
@@thedarkemissaryall they knew was some guy had the power to give other people quirks, they thought they were going to some loan shark, little did they know they were basically making a deal with the devil
@iffatbushrasuhi28607 ай бұрын
@@thedarkemissary They didn't know AFO was a criminal or mass murderer. They heard that AFO is someone who gives out quirks and shit so they went to him for Aoyama and got a quirk. They didn't know AFO would use them later on like pawns. Remember AFO is good at manipulating, gaslighting, and sweet talking to people.
@powerdork167 ай бұрын
@@thedarkemissary They just heard a rumor of a guy who could give their son a quirk so he could live happily amongst his peers.They probably figured they could just throw money at the problem and be done with it. But he came back the moment he heard about All Might going to teach at UA.
@thedarkemissary7 ай бұрын
@@iffatbushrasuhi2860 They thought some random dude that defies the natural of the world they know, that they had to find on the downlow, was gonna do them a life changing favor for no reason? You make excuses for cults too? Flat-earthers don't know any better? You thought the drug dealers were just being nice and guarding the corner? The mob is so nice to lend people money who are struggling? They knew what they were doing. They took the risk anyway. And they couldn't get out. No excuses.
@safy53637 ай бұрын
Fun fact: It's been theorized that the reason why Aoyama brought up Uraraka's crush on Deku in season 3 is because he tried to self-sabotage himself so that he didn't have to go to the training camp and put his classmates in danger. Something that likely would have gotten him killed if he had succeeded. Basically, he tried to kill himself in an attempt not to endanger his friends, but he failed. He also tried to intentionally fail the hero licensing exam because he didn't think himself to be worthy of being a hero. If you go back to that episode, you can tell that he's visibly upset when the others from 1-A came to save him. Also, when Deku and the others were planning on rescuing Bakugou, Aoyama got very nervous and timid, saying that they should just leave it to the pros. It's also to be noted that Aoyama only ever really started interacting with people after AFO was defeated in season 3. This was because, when AFO was caught, he thought he was safe to make friends without having to endanger them. This is also why he faded further into the background after AFO escaped.
@awanfarrell28807 ай бұрын
But he has no rights to join forces with the villains
@Deleon_Gregoryjust7 ай бұрын
@@awanfarrell2880, he did not. He only obeyed his parents because he doesn't want them to be in danger because of him. He isn't even related to any villain. The only thing he does is link the info twice to afo.
@paper29417 ай бұрын
God that’s so fucking sad if that’s true
@CurtyDan95107 ай бұрын
@paper2941 of course that's the reason these people are his friends, he has no reason to want harm to come to them other then to protect his family from all for one and his twisted games.
@nicolas._.22947 ай бұрын
Omg, this is amazing, the foreshadowing is amazing
@Ockto_7 ай бұрын
I think the majorly important aspect of this reveal is that literally nothing was of Aoyama's choice. He didn't choose to get a quirk, he didn't choose to enroll in UA, he didn't choose to betray his friends. Aoyama was motivated by protecting his parents from death, but also himself. This is a child. A child forced to act out these "evil" actions by the most powerful man on the planet.
@rjai50037 ай бұрын
33:06 I think you misunderstood here. That was a rhetorical question pointing out how he DIDN’T do that because of All for One and genuinely wanted to cheer Deku up. He didn’t even know about One for All until he read Deku’s letter
@fedwyn7 ай бұрын
19:15 no he wasn't, at least to the general public. All for One was a closely guarded secret that only a few people knew. From Aoyama's parents' perspective, it's the equivalent of going to loan shark and later finding out they want you to kill someone instead of simply repaying the debt
@iffatbushrasuhi28607 ай бұрын
17:40 - You're wrong. They didn't know AFO was a criminal or mass murderer. Remember, AFO was someone nobody knew about except for the top heroes. Only the heroes knew about him. Normal civilians like Aoyama and his parents didn't know a shit about him. For most of the time, AFO was an underground villain/criminal and always stayed lowkey and away from the public. His parents only heard that AFO is someone who gives out quirks and shit so they went to him for Aoyama and got a quirk. They didn't know AFO would use them later on like pawns. Also remember that AFO is good at manipulating, gaslighting, and sweet talking to people.
@W_Junior7 ай бұрын
I strongly believe Deku's mom would've done the exact same thing She crying because her son doesn't have a quirk is the proof of that Blaming them a little is one thing, the "no empathy" thing is absurdly harsh, they were literally victims of little mistakes
@nicolas._.22947 ай бұрын
Ye, good thing that deku mom hasn't heard the rumors about the mysterious man who can give quicks
@nar52057 ай бұрын
About Aoyama's parents going to a mass murder/terrorist for help, they didn't know any of that when they decided to do it, they just heard rumors about somebody who could give quirks, and then All for One threatened their lives after giving him the quirk.
@natsuotodoroki7 ай бұрын
I’m just gonna say it, Aoyama doesn’t deserve to be imprisoned for this. He’s a kid who was forced into a situation where he had the choice of doing what he was told or dying with his parents. I know there’s consequences and stuff, but like, I’m with Midoriya here. There was never no hope for him.
@cheeseoh7 ай бұрын
So a kid commits murder because if they didn't they would get killed, doesn't deserve jail time for homicide?
@kingcaesar36937 ай бұрын
@@cheeseoh He didn't commit murder. He didn't even know how he got his quirk till after USJ. He was a kid. You think a kid understands that? You get back to us when a gun is pointed at your family, and tell us you don't jump when the guy holding it says to.
@cheeseoh7 ай бұрын
@@kingcaesar3693I'm using that as an example you idiot! To explain to the OC that just because he's a child and he was forced to do this doesn't excuse he still did it. Sorry your brain is small you can't comprehend
@kool1joe7 ай бұрын
@@kingcaesar3693he attempted though. Like you can argue his attack wouldn’t harm deku even if invisible girl didn’t reflect it, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t attempt.
@cheeseoh7 ай бұрын
@@kingcaesar3693I read this manga through and through. I love aoyama one of my favorite characters. But regardless of how innocent he is it doesn't excuse he still did it. Come back to me when you actually grow a fucking brain
@griffin17587 ай бұрын
Me when I’m Alicia and I’m so caught up on my incorrect theory I completely miss the point of the episode
@Nazca_Weebvern7 ай бұрын
Well…anyone can get caught up in their own headspace they miss the point. Not like some of us are any different. Though yeah I get the frustration.
@DetroitSmash7 ай бұрын
*I can’t be mad at Aoyama if I’m being honest. He didn’t want or choose for any of this to happen. I can’t call Aoyama a villain since he basically had a gun to his head the whole time.*
@Xemnas2837 ай бұрын
His parents went to AFO to give him a Quirk so he's paying the consequences of their actions. I can't even blame them fully but still it was a huge mistake getting a favor from that man lol
@aj64gamer747 ай бұрын
He was a child. That wanted nothing more than to fit in when he was give the opportunity he too it......still it is there fault
@thedarkemissary7 ай бұрын
And if your kid got killed, do you care why the shooter shot? I understand you're under duress, but my family died because you flew the plane into the building. Nuke the city or I kill Mary Jane. At some point, make the right decision. Aoyama ask for help.
@simo04gr387 ай бұрын
AFO is not known by public too, so is not like people went to him knowing who he is
@ZBoy-rc8zf7 ай бұрын
Yeah his parents are to blame
@pj_spirit7 ай бұрын
The cheese was not cuz of All for One. Aoyama legitamately just related to Deku’s struggles with his quirk
@Supersheep647 ай бұрын
Can you imagine if it was though? “Yuga, you must place the cheese outside his window in the middle of the night. This is integral for my master plan, I swear.”
@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU7 ай бұрын
@@Supersheep64 LMAO All For One just had a crush on Deku and wanted a middle man ☠☠☠☠
@PainCausingSamurai7 ай бұрын
The thing about plot twists and secret reveals in MHA is that while they aren't at all hard to see coming, the execution is almost always better than expected, and the payoff has broader plot implications than just a character reveal.
@pj_spirit7 ай бұрын
Aoyama actually didn’t do any traitor stuff after All for One was locked up. The villains hadn’t intentionally interacted with the students since then. He was giving information to only All for One so they couldn’t find the traitor since he wasn’t doing traitor stuff anymore.
@jaredtheastralartist25107 ай бұрын
Toru revealing her face genuinely had me tearing up. It’s safe to say that toru is a character who struggles with self image. A lot of people can’t really take her seriously because we sort of see her a blank slate. So I love how they revealed her face to show how much she cares about the situation. A beautiful moment for her character.
@GabrielRojasAhumada7 ай бұрын
she is not hidding her face on purpose, her personality is extremely extroverted, what are you even on? she was visible because of how she used her power to reflect the light. it´s just physics my guy
@jaredtheastralartist25107 ай бұрын
@@GabrielRojasAhumada I don’t mean that in the literary sense. I mean that in the representation sense. Because this is the moment that the author chooses to finally get to see her face after all this time. Toru that a character is extremely extroverted to make up the fact that she’s invisible and can’t be seen that much. But even so, a lot of people just dismiss her as being useless and a filler character just because we never really gotten anything from her that much as a character. This is the biggest betrayal of trust member of class 1a has ever experienced, So I thought it was a really ingenious choice to show how much of a big deal this is to the class, have a character that we never really gotten to see, find me show how much this effect her by showing her face. It was a really smart decision on the authors part
@RagPen017 ай бұрын
@@GabrielRojasAhumada I know a couple of people who can't be confident/extroverted without hiding some sort of disguise or cover invi girl representing those kinds of personalities tracks, tbh
@nicolas._.22947 ай бұрын
Oh...I thought the only reason we could see her at all was becs she was blasted with light😶 Didn't knew she can control when she is invisible and not
@jaredtheastralartist25107 ай бұрын
@@nicolas._.2294 she can’t control it, I’m just talking about how this was the perfect time for the author the show it
@93083237 ай бұрын
Apparently, in terms of terrible things to do, snitching >> bullying for 10+ years and saying someone should off themselves.
@CurtyDan95107 ай бұрын
Don't get me started 🙄😒
@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU7 ай бұрын
god forbid someone grow as a person
@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU7 ай бұрын
oh sorry you meant this in regards to her being a fucking idiot and judging hating someone not for anything they've done but cus they're not conventionally attractive, you right
@williusmac8915 ай бұрын
@@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU I get the frustration here but come on it has nothing to do with being conventionally attractive if anything you're a weirdo for instantly thinking it had to do with her being attracted to a CHILD instead of just understanding that she's just too hung up on her theory. The reason she doesn't react the same to Aoyama as Bakugo is because we've seen Bakugo's development since the start of the series
@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU5 ай бұрын
@@williusmac891 being conventionally attractive = / = being someone you are attracted to don't make things weird, weirdo.
@Jay-kn1vw7 ай бұрын
Actually All for One Was not well known, he ruled from the shadows. And his existence was kept secret by the few people who knew, after All Might “Killed” him. The general public didn’t know about him. And the people who kept the secret thought he was dead. All for ones fight with all might in season 3 was the first time the public saw him.
@sethgibson51487 ай бұрын
Love how she completely miss understood what Deku was talking about when it came to the cheese.
@Acatia27 ай бұрын
I could be wrong, but I think the implication is that the Ayoama household didn't know All for One was what he is. Much like All Might's injury, a lot was kept under wrap, so it's plausible All for One faded from social awareness. Considering how the doctor was still viewed favourably in the public sphere until recently and nobody had a clue, I'd imagine All for One was presented as a specialist option with a fake name when the family voiced their concerns. They only realized after the fact when he started collecting.
@cardbutton8927 ай бұрын
Its less that AFO faded into obscurity, and more that he was never not obscure. Only a relatively tiny handful of individuals ever knew he existed prior to Kamino Ward, and they kept a tight lid on that. AFO also would not have looked like a big toe 10 years ago. So, yeah, there was no way Aoyama's family could have known his true nature until after they unwittingly made a deal with the devil. They were just a naïve Family with enough wealth to hear rumors of a man who could give Quirks, and sought him out to help their son. It wasn't even about heroics, it was just his parents wanting to spare Yuga from the same pain Deku was forced to endure growing up Quirkless. TBH, Aoyama's "I just wanted to be like everyone else" at the License Exam hits a little different when you realize he meant "I just wanted to actually belong here with the rest of you". Poor kid got the only thing ever wanted, under some truly nightmarish circumstances.
@mixednarwhal7 ай бұрын
17:30 It is highly likely AFO isn’t advertising himself as a villain when he is finding people to use and manipulate, because who would ever take an offer from someone so horrible?
@Jnk_X-man7 ай бұрын
Exactlyyyyy
@shizar9987 ай бұрын
i mean, if you keep accusing everyone you're bound to get it right eventually. also deku brought up the cheese thing because it wasn't ordered by all for one, it was a genuine moment between the two.
@brightluminous_7 ай бұрын
I think she was being sarcastic
@connorwood92117 ай бұрын
The identity of the traitor was meant to be revealed back in the Forest Train arc, but due to poor reception for the arc in Japan the author cut it short and scrapped any other plans to fast track to the Kamino arc
@FuzHammer7 ай бұрын
Poor reception really? That's surprising I would have thought it was a favourite especially in hindsight comparing it to the hero licence dodgeball arc 💀💀
@gacha_kyrie66717 ай бұрын
Ok, One, aoyama was like 5 at the time, he didnt know any better at all. He just obeyed his parents thats it. Two, the public didnt know squat about afo back then. The only ones who knew about afo and how dangerous he really was, was the top heroes, and they kept all information about afo on the hushy. All his parents knew is that there was a guy who could give people quirks. Aoyama and his parents didnt know what they had gotten themselves into unil way later on. Also, afo is very manipulative and very good at playing innocent when he has to.
@omegashark18377 ай бұрын
The ones that are truly at fault are the parents for even putting him in that position in the first place. Aoyama is just another victim to AFO’s machinations….
@93083237 ай бұрын
I'd hardly say they're truly at fault. They didn't know about AFO and how terrible he really is. Their deal had terrible consequences, sure, but it wasn't an informed one and by the time AFO came to collect the due, it's already way too late.
@skywardthehero3087 ай бұрын
Is why i don't take Alicia's morality speeches seriously. She'll feel more empathy towards a person who did more horrible things than Aoyama. But feels lack of empathy for him because he's weird. Horrible people are fine as long as they look cool. But if you beingna weirdo? Oh no you get shit on
@Nazca_Weebvern7 ай бұрын
I think it’s really just bias and maybe irl experiences. Honestly we are just strangers to her personally so let’s not take everything she says too seriously.
@skywardthehero3087 ай бұрын
@zoeylace4778 my problem isn't that she dislike Aoyama. My problem is that she doesn't practice what she preaches. She always say "my babies my babies!" She sees all these characters as her "babies" but shits on Aoyama because he's weird and disagrees his viewpoints even tho they aren't bad viewpoints. Aoyama is the exact same age as Deku btw. Who was manipulate by all for one. Who is forced to do what he sayd or kill his parents. His parents just didn't want their poor son ridiculed and bullied like Deku went through in season 1. He is just a kid with horrible circumstances and lack of free will. Who at most the most evil he did was reveal U.A's actitivity and location. While Dabi had the free will and yet commit massive murders and horrendous actions. Alicia is the definition of popular valley girl syndrome. Who makes fun of weirdos and nerdy guys. Is ironic her main content is anime because 15 years ago, anime fans would be the exact people she'll make fun of and shit on them
@loveforkuja7 ай бұрын
glad i went to read the comments before watching the vid, not gonna watch it now. people defend bakugo and endeavor for being shitty people on purpose but hate on and say a kid who basically had a gun to his head should die or be in prison just because he's weird.
@ShinigamiRyan7 ай бұрын
She's also an anti, so morality isn't common for her type.
@supercyclone83424 ай бұрын
@@loveforkuja Her "zero empathy" comment was for the parents not Aoyama btw. Even after saying that she repeatedly tried to empathize with them. She forgot that AFO was public knowledge at the time tho
@gremmythoumeaux23937 ай бұрын
It’s funny to imagine that one episode with creepy Aoyama was passed off as a red herring only for Horikoshi to pull off a “That’s what I wanted you to think. 😈”
@pj_spirit7 ай бұрын
It’s pretty funny that I’ve been intentionally running interference for Aoyama in Alicia’s comment section since she started suspecting him. Cuz he did help save Tokoyami at the training camp when he was kidnapped along with Bakugo, he tried to sacrifice himself for his class during the license exam, both times she thought were sus when he was doing good. Also his quirk not being compatible with his body didn’t make sense to her cuz that doesn’t seem natural, like how Deku isn’t made for One for All, but then we could point at a natural occurrence of it with Dabi. Aoyama had an alibi at every every stage and I was ready to provide every one just to make things murky. And to be fair, he’s being blackmailed. He doesn’t want his parents to be killed. It’s a tough situation because Aoyama wasn’t even the one who went to All for One to get a quirk. His parents did that for him and suddenly due to no fault of his own, he has the most powerful villain in history threatening him and they had no idea All for One was bad. He’s not publicly known. All for One’s first public appearance was his fight with All Might in season 3
@GabrielRojasAhumada7 ай бұрын
yeah, Alicia has been really harsh on the people involved, I guess she would let herself and her family die if she found herself in the same situation as Yuga´s mom
@93083237 ай бұрын
@@GabrielRojasAhumada It feels really weird when she defended Bakugou's character despite him being a bully on his own volition.
@Nazca_Weebvern7 ай бұрын
@@zoeylace4778 I think it was the fact during I think season 3 where bakugo was at his lowest for supposedly bringing down All might from his hero duties. It’s prolly her bias so I can’t blame her for it. People are stubborn with their biases.
@loveforkuja7 ай бұрын
@@9308323 seems to be a trend that bakugou and endeavor fans hate aoyama but defend their own faves doing worse on purpose
@ImVeryWholesome7 ай бұрын
11:35 well…..that’s just uncalled for, and he went to a mass murderer…..yeah like these comments said, no one knew that, his parents saw a man who could give quirks and had incredible charm and power, like, seriously if he, AFO has a doctor with him and a underground army of followers and powerful people, and he shows himself as a normal individual with no messed up face, his parents of course would jump at the chance, it’s their last hope for their child not to be bullied to suicide like Deku was being treated, man this sucks, usually love your rants but this one didn’t hit, where’s your morality here man 😭
@hunt3rquack6447 ай бұрын
The parents were unaware of teh atrocities done by AFO, he was keep under wraps until the camino incident.
@AceTM4077 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THAT NO SPOILER THUMBNAIL SENTIMENT!! I have gotten spoiled on many things in the past but I think the one that has infuriated me the most is when people put the Ai shot on their episode 1 thumbnail and I got spoiled on what happened during that episode and so immediately after I finished the first episode, I just read the manga cuz I had given up.
@kur_tain7 ай бұрын
"Do champions wear afros, or do afros wear champions?" - Usopp
@jospehpenn30337 ай бұрын
Hoenstly he has my sympathy, they’re not evil there people and its understandable especially due to the fact they were given examples of what's happened to people who have tried a multitude of ways to "leave". But also its kinda a mental thing that its either your friends or your family including yourself pick one and then if he does pick his family, just sit and wait to die in most likely a horrific way. Idk its just a lot to put on a kid. This also lines up with just how much people not just heros,in this show put their "families" first Deku, Ida Ochaco, Nana shimura, the leauge of villians and a bunch of others.
@something-g997 ай бұрын
A lot of people would choose the lives of their parents over their friends, this doesnt really excuse Aoyama but we can still understand it. He was just really scared
@Shotarain977 ай бұрын
The cheese wasn’t because all for one told him to. It was aoyamas “SOS” to deku but he didn’t see it that was until now
@nicolas._.22947 ай бұрын
Wait, it was really SOS👁👄👁
@kasendaniel38967 ай бұрын
We’ve seen what happens when someone’s quirkless. Ya get told to swan dive and hope you get a better roll next time. So you really can’t blame them
@AvaricioDues7 ай бұрын
If I may add my two cents; the society they live in is so rotten and terrible to people without quirks that Yuga’s parents didn’t want their son to go through the bullying and mistreatment, so they followed rumors of a man who could give quirks, at that point no one knew who AFO was because All Might and Sir Nighteye kept quite about him, so they just thought he was a man with a rare quirk that could bestow them, and only after Yuga graduated from middle school did they use him to be a mole. Yuga is just a kid scared of what would happen to his parents if he dared turn against a man who is so good at manipulating and scheming that he made plans 200yrs in advance and has so many contingencies that is makes Sherlock look like a disorganized fool
@temshopping7 ай бұрын
chances are, most of the ppl who told u abt him not being the traitor might be manga readers trying to take your mind off of the suspicion, it was the case for me at least. I got gaslit by my friend (he's a manga reader but we watch the anime together) and he was always going "nah he can't be it" like I don't already know he reads ahead
@adamturek2107 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Aoyama parents didn't knew that the guy who gives quirks was a mass murderer...
@PortablePuertoRican7 ай бұрын
11:28 Alicia, you accused half the class, Almight's friends, and plenty of school staff. You shouldn't get credit for one of 50 accusations being right. Your random conspiracy tangents are absolutely hilarious but, in many shows you react to, one is often proven correct only by sheer volume. All that to say, please keep doing them, they are great and the rabbit holes your logic spirals down can become pure chaotic brilliance.
@Sarge237 ай бұрын
Also to be fair, if manga readers just came out saying "congrats you figured it out!" It would ruin the moment
@brightluminous_7 ай бұрын
I've watched all Alicia's My Hero reactions and I can confirm, Aoyama is the only conspiracy she never took back. All Might friend(the Detective) was a few episodes, same as Iida and so on. But she was always sus on Aoyama, so I think it's fair to give her this one
@Juusiii7 ай бұрын
I think youre missing the point. They just heard abt afo being able to give quirks they didn't know he was a villain. So they were like oh yea lets do that and then he was like btw do what i say or ill kill you. And he showed them he would. So they normal citizens are like oh shit imma die if i dont do this. And yuga yea hes doing it but as a kid its like clearly if i dont my family is cooked. No i dont want to but what other choice do i have which is why hes clearly not happy with what he did
@BubbaJubbs99267 ай бұрын
I think Alicia missed a ton of points on why Aoyama couldn't reveal his AFO connection. The League knew who he was and where he was, a kid will obviously want to protect their parents from being murdered, and it took hundreds of heroes and many deaths to take out AFO and his minions even temporarily, so going to the heroes wouldn't have saved him or his family. Just feels shitty to place the blame on him when she symathizes with people who willingly work with AFO like Dabi and Shigaraki.
@cardbutton8927 ай бұрын
Well, less the League. There is no way he or his parents could have known of AFO's association with the League prior to the USJ attack; and Aoyama likely didnt become convinced of that link until the Forest Training Camp (hence his terror in those bushes). They weren't important enough to know those sorts of links. Even the few who knew of AFO's existence had no idea of his links with League until Camino. They weren't important enough to even ask what those two contextless pieces of info Aoyama actually leaked were for. At least until that context came and smashed Aoyama in the face hard. They just unknowingly made a deal with the devil, then were trapped in a nightmare when he came to collect.
@BubbaJubbs99267 ай бұрын
@@cardbutton892 For the league point I was more meaning him finding out their connection to AFO later on. He probably knew that AFO informed them that he was the mole and to kill him if he betrays them.
@EFZUBIAGA7 ай бұрын
I feel like Koda, Sugarman, and invisible girl has been more "useless" in fights than Aoyama
@snekroc10127 ай бұрын
Alica, the cheese thing was not for All For One. Aoyama was relating to deku not being compatible with his quirk. The whole episode where that happens was about raising suspicion and then the whole thing was revealed to be a misunderstanding. AFO is not requesting cyriptic cheese messages... ...unless??????
@EternalSentinal7 ай бұрын
Hot take: I can't blame the parents too much for this either. With 80% of the world having quirks, being quirkless is likely considered a disability, and we see how deku is treated from the start for it. All for One was not a known entity when Aoyama's parents, just pursuing rumors of a person who gave quirks "freely". Imagine having a child with a missing limb, getting teased and tormented relentlessly, just wanting to be normal, then hearing about a person who could give them give them an arm? I can't think of any parent that wouldn't be blinded to the warning signs of a generous gift like this until it was too late, when he makes it clear he can kill them and get away with it.
@GabrielRojasAhumada7 ай бұрын
this is 100% the truth, specially since deku was probably nearing the suic*de stage when he went to save bakugo because of all the bullying
@93083237 ай бұрын
This. Not fitting is only the first part of his journey until he jumps off a building, hoping to get a quirk on his next life. Seriously, I don't Alicia at times. If she can say it's not too late for Bakugou, then it definitely isn't for Aoyama either. At least Bakugou was never forced to act terrible.
@Professor_Wisteria_7 ай бұрын
i cannot call Aoyama a villain. he was trapped in a scheme he had no way of knowing existed, by a man he and his parents didn't know was evil, because of a gift he received that he didn't know was actually bait. his only options were to obey and possibly live "normally", or rebel and kill everyone he loved in the process. he had no realistic choice, especially when you consider the fact that he's still just a kid. hell, he probably never wanted to be a Hero in the first place, he just didn't want to be the Quirkless outcast like we saw happened with Deku. and because of that, he was forced into U.A. with a Quirk that physically hurts him to use, training to become something extremely dangerous, for a man who ruined his and his entire family's life. he is not a villain, he is a victim also HAGAKURE IS SO FUCKING CUTE DUDE LOOK AT HER, HORIKOSHI DRAWS ONE OF THE CUTEST FUCKING GIRLS IN THE ENTIRE STORY AND SHE'S INVISIBLE FOR ALL OF IT EXCEPT LIKE 8 PANELS??? WTF MAN COME ON
@adamturek2107 ай бұрын
Also crazy to think that if Deku's mother went to All For One not knowing his true nature, Deku could've been in the same situation as Aoyama right now.
@Degenerick7 ай бұрын
You called it but youre still SOOOOOOO wrong lmaoooo
@samuelclayhills32987 ай бұрын
To be fair they just followed the rumors of someone who could give quirks and had no idea that it was a super villain. Then when they found out it was do as he says or he kills you and your entire family. A bit of an L but considering the circumstances it was less malice and more just really shitty luck that led them here.
@hereforonereason58207 ай бұрын
Could YOU turn on AFO? Go against him when you know he'll kill your family? It's not like there's a good reason to think the heroes could protect them from him, it took All Might everything he had just to incapacitate him, and that didn't last. He got out. Could you REALLY make that decision, to put your family's heads on the literal chopping block for the greater good like that? Mob boss has a gun to their head, are you REALLY so confident in the cops' ability to save them that you're willing to take the chance and tell someone so the mafia gets taken down? You don't want even more people to get hurt or die, but can you make the decision to effectively sacrifice your parents' lives for their sakes? Maybe if it was just your own, but your parents? Any siblings? You don't KNOW if the heroes can save and protect your family, and the gun is already to their heads. Can you flip that coin?
@Horacio_Poggi7 ай бұрын
I thought it was curious how calm Alicia was with the Invisible Girl misdirection. I thought maybe she didn't care about that character that much or something. When she said she thought it was only a pair of gloves that were just there in the forest I burst out laughing 😂
@RD-uq4hg7 ай бұрын
No-one knew who AFO was they just followed rumours of a guy who can give quirks + AFO didn’t tell him to leave the cheese he was saying that along with the other stuff he did because he wanted to, to prove he’s not a bad person at his core
@Sarge237 ай бұрын
All for one wasn't really a "known" figure and having no empathy for someone that was put into a position he didn't want because of his parents is just fucked up. The parents i understand but not him.
@jonathonswift77927 ай бұрын
At first, I thought there were no traitors cause the villains were using Kurogiri. Kurogiri’s Warp quirk allows him to warp himself and others to places he’s been before (even when he was alive). Kurogiri has warp to both USJ and training camp (implying he’s been to both places). Now it reveals Aoyama is traitor, I’m actually wondering where he was back in season 1 when he was telling his classmates where they thought he was.
@sammy04937 ай бұрын
Well in s1 he ask uraraka if she knew where he is hiding and uraraka ask him and he just reply with “its a secret” so he definitely hiding somewhere in USJ
@jehmarxx27 ай бұрын
Watch the episode again and you'll see him just cowering among the rubble. That's the scene. Probably terrified of knowing what the plan actually is. And then with that "It's a secret" ... that must be so hypocritical and hard for him. It hurts.
@mixednarwhal7 ай бұрын
One thing I have come to like and understand about My Hero Academia is that the story and the build up to reveals aren’t hard to predict or piece together but what makes them great is what they do with that reveal and how it impacts the story itself not the watchers of the show.
@ImpeccableZentertainment7 ай бұрын
No empathy whatsoever? what a shit take
@rufusmorris91607 ай бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one who hates spoilers being shown at thumbnails.
@MinoruMinetaGrapeJuice7 ай бұрын
I know Aoyama is the main focus here, but can we talk about Hagakure?? She looks soooo good-
@natsuki88217 ай бұрын
Normally you are right but everything you said this episode was off
@luciowong85907 ай бұрын
"Is there someone else missing?" Honestly, I don't know if it's alright or not that she didn't see invisible girl. Like, is her power working or is she just forgettable?
@Xemnas2837 ай бұрын
Didn't expect this much development for Aoyama but damn was this awesome. He turned from a student I didn't care too much about to one of the better class members
@duelsphere7 ай бұрын
Also to explain Aoyama's situation a little bit (idk if any other commentor did already, they probably did) but Aoyama is supposed to be like a reflection of Deku. He is someone who idolized Heroes and wanted to become a Hero, but he was born Quirkless. His parents heard rumors of a man who can give quirks, and they found the man (All For One) and got a Quirk from him for Aoyama so he could pursue his dream of becoming a hero. It all started from his parents wanting to help their child follow his dream of becoming a Hero, but as All For One does, he uses people, and with that Quirk came a heavy price that they weren't prepared for. As explained in this episode, those who didn't follow him, were hunted and found no matter where they went, and killed, made examples out of for the other "Friends" which is why his parents are so terrified of All For One's influence. And Aoyama who always wanted to be a hero, was reduced to a person who feels he is a villain not worth saving, because he chose to help All For One as the traitor in order to protect his parents, not wanting them to be killed. While being a traitor is inexcusable, its definitely a heartbreaking situation, even if hes my least favorite character, I still feel bad and can understand the suffering he is feeling of going against his own ideals for the sake of someone else.
@93083237 ай бұрын
I can't blame his parents, to be honest. Like, do you remember the crap Izuku went through until he OFA? That would've been Aoyama's future. As a child, it's a matter of blending in. As he gets older, he'll get his bullies who'll tell him to jump off a roof to maybe get lucky and get a quirk on his next life. He'll get his burn marks, get his stuff thrown off the window, get shouted at when he tries to be a hero, etc.
@mohammedsakayl30167 ай бұрын
27:43 not really, it is actually deliberate that he doesnt leak anything during that time 1. The next arc was the exam so no info was used by the villain except Toga infiltrating the exam 2. The one after was the Chisaki arc 3. The one after was the school festival with Gentle 4. Then they make an explicit point that all their info was through Hawks. To the extent that that when they planned the war the villains never got news of it until the day of, Aoyama would have been known that there is something going on hours earlier, but the villains were just surprised. 5. and now when AFO left prison he restarted contact again. So as far as I can tell Aoyama leaked info only twice, USJ and the camp.
@VBane7 ай бұрын
I feel like most people weren't really trying to give you shit. If we agree with you when we already know you are right, it feels like somewhat spoilery. Trying to point out things that seem contradict what we know is truth is just about trying to maintain suspence and the impact of the reveal.
@fatebreaker4137 ай бұрын
As a manga reader, Watching you call this out since season two or three has been kinda funny especially since the second he started talking about his quick being incompatible with his body you immediately called the All for One connection, Points to you for calling it.
@Degenerick7 ай бұрын
Take em away cuz holy shit she still made no sense in justifying her hate for him.
@WarStorm7 ай бұрын
Alicia not putting spoilers in her thumbnails is honestly the most gigachad move any reaction KZbinr has ever done and I love her for that.
@danieltaylor41854 ай бұрын
26:28 - YES, THANK YOU. Some people don't have the decency to do this. This was really bad in the RWBY days, when RoosterTeeth was still posting the new episodes on KZbin. You would get back from class or work or whatever, see there was a new episode to watch, and reactors will have not just reacted to the episode already, but will have spoilers in the thumbnails. You could get spoiled for the episode you were watching by the thumbnail for the reaction in the recommended videos next to (or directly below) the video of the show you were watching. It was wild. For the record, the worst from this era for me was when I had the plot twist in the Volume 5 finale spoiled for me, because even in theater mode, I could still see the first recommended video, and the first recommended video was the spoiler. So I watched the whole episode knowing that it was coming. Sorry it's a long rant, but it just feels like spoilers keep getting worse on KZbin. Especially in shorts. I got manga spoilers for Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man already from KZbin shorts, directly in the title of the short.
@omayma_bbh7 ай бұрын
Aoyama get behind meeee
@groudon13267 ай бұрын
To be 100% honest us bullying you over oayama was just to throw off
@ohn94317 ай бұрын
Lil bro cooked so hard he got Rachel Dolezal hair. Also, invis girl be lookin' FIRE.
@megaboy7675 ай бұрын
After reading Trash of the Count's Family (the novel), I can't help but imagine Cale Henituse being like: "Oh, so you've been planning this for what? A hundred years? That's cute." *Unravels AFO's preparations in a week* (For those who don't know, in the novel, Cale made 1000 years' worth of prep time go to shit in the span of 2 years.)
@You-Tube-n5k7 ай бұрын
On one hand, Aoyama’s parents being willing to go to a crime boss just so their son won’t be sad is kind of awesome, but on the other hand...
@cardbutton8927 ай бұрын
They didn't know he was a crime boss at the time. Prior to Kamino Ward AFO was not a publicly known entity. In fact, very few, if any but a relatively minor few knew of his existence at all. He also didnt look like a gigantic toe 10 years ago. Aoyama's parents didnt want their kid to grow up with yeah what does amount to a handicap in this setting (and the societal stigmas that come with it), and followed rumors of a Man who could provide Quirks. It was only years later that he would use that "gift" as a means to threaten the family into serving him.
@You-Tube-n5k7 ай бұрын
@@cardbutton892 Oh absolutely.
@jaredtheastralartist25107 ай бұрын
here I thing, I knew that he was the traitor all this time, because I read the manga. You immediately guessed it like frame one I was like FUCK! How did she know!?!? Those comments you got we’re probably gaslighting you, and the other half was just giving you crap because I didn’t know what they were talking about
@jehmarxx27 ай бұрын
Definitely because they felt she judged too fast and only basing on the quirky personality.
@CrimsonGold-pq8xy7 ай бұрын
I mean i guessed him because of the whole watching Deku sleep thing If anyone deserves an apology though, It's Denki, Denki deserves an apology from the community
@irfanharithzain32407 ай бұрын
@@CrimsonGold-pq8xyThat one panel in the Mt Lady media training scene where he did the Liberation Army “L” sign.👀😭
@Shady_br7 ай бұрын
.AFO wasn't known to the public as a villain, he was just a rumour of a guy who gives quirks and once the deal is done they couldn't get out .Aoyama parents didn't give him the quirk just so he doesn't get bullied at school, being quirkless im MHA world means that you're the a social outcast the lowest of lowest.
@ICannotStopTwinkling7 ай бұрын
✨I have been caught for bamboozling the heroes✨
@mixednarwhal7 ай бұрын
What Aoyama and his family are having to do for AFO is something that AFO does as a tool. He may not always show himself as a villain when he "helps" people but he will once he needs them as tools he can use, once he comes back after he "helps" people that is when you are locked in and can’t escape. For anyone it would be a tough spot to suddenly find yourself in but it doesn’t excuse the harmful actions and crimes that the victims commit, however for Aoyama and his family they have a rare chance to finally do something to get back at AFO after all this time of manipulation and fear. Think back to Gentle Criminal, he is in prison for his crimes but was still acknowledged by the police that he wasn’t just a villain and that after his sentence he might be able to do some good after he does his time. The same could be said for Aoyama and his family except they are getting their chance to do some good earlier than expected.
@hamkyo077 ай бұрын
Yeah, I ain't watching her reaction of MHA now... She's gonna be extra annoying and show no empathy for Aoyama and still pretend to be a baby defender. No, I won't check if my assumptions are correct. The title is enough and past reactions.
@pj_spirit7 ай бұрын
It’s hilarious that you’re entirely wrong about her reaction
@ashyroy94547 ай бұрын
@@pj_spiritthey are entirely freaking right about her reaction with her saying "I have zero empathy" and forgetting all relevant past events
@pj_spirit7 ай бұрын
@@ashyroy9454 She has no empathy because of the parents, who she directly blames and directly references those events. She says it’s not his fault and that he’s just a kid.
@cardbutton8927 ай бұрын
@@pj_spirit No, she didnt say that. She forgot that the parents could not possibly have known AFO's true nature, so she is blaming them. But she also is taking a pretty hardlines stance against Yuga here too. And yes, its because she never liked him, and yes it is largely because the kid is a little weird. Its why she took the cheese thing in such a negative and wrong way.
@lenny_has_arived66797 ай бұрын
You have no idea how much we in the discord have been anticipating this reveal
@Aoitetsugakusha7 ай бұрын
Alicia: *calls Aoyama’s betrayal seasons in advance before any explicit clues are given* Also Alicia: “Why does Deku’s silhouette have titties?”
@duelsphere7 ай бұрын
this whole concept of 'inherited quirks' being incompatible with the user's body causing them to have difficulty controlling it, is what made me think (and still do think) that Hagakure (Invisible Girl) is also secretly a traitor. There are multiple reasons for this assumption. One being this whole inherited quirk concept, as Hagakure can be seen as someone who cant control her quirk well, hence why shes always invisible rather than being able to turn it on and off. Another is during the USJ incident where she said she was in the area with Todoroki and watched him fight with Todoroki commenting hes lucky he didn't freeze her since he didnt notice. (if she was really there, she would have been frozen, that or she would have made her presence known to him and team up, but instead she just.... kept quiet? did nothing? and then claimed to be there without any evidence tying her to that spot? suspicious). This whole, Hagakure being the one who finds out Aoyama is the traitor also doesn't prove her innocence, as it could be a ploy to solidify herself as innocent by selling out another traitor after learning there is another. People do that kind of tactic a lot in Among Us type games, they see theres sus on their partner and sell them out to make themselves look cleared. So assuming Hagakure was another traitor who didnt know there were others like her, it'd make sense for her to sell out the more liable one to cover her own tracks. the series is almost over, and my theory is most likely wrong as I doubt it was ever brought up (nor did I read the manga to see if it was brought up, but I didnt hear about it from anyone so who knows). If they dont have that kind of plot twist, I wouldn't doubt that idea was originally going to happen, but they forgot about it, much like they almost forgot about the whole traitor in the first place, which is why the traitor reveal in this episode seemingly came out of nowhere, because they were like "Oh shit, yeah we still gotta do something about that!". So its quite possible Hagakure WAS planned to be an additional traitor rather than just a 'bait and switch' for Aoyama, but they forgot about it and then it became too late to do anything for it. These are all my theories, so no need to take them seriously of course.
@shadds37155 ай бұрын
I really appreciate Alicia’s thumbnail policy, because I was spoiled for the big thing in episode 11 of this season by a thumbnail.
@DJsquare37 ай бұрын
Thank you for being the only person I have seen so far who DIDNT put spoilers in the thumbnail.
@xandariangames34875 ай бұрын
another interesting point, at no point did Yuga express any real desire to be a hero, in fact, he has never said "I wanted to go to UA", the only hint that he might want that is in like season 3, and now we know that him enrolling was suggested by AFO after he heard rumors that All Might might become a teacher there, it's entirely possible that if things had been different and Yuga had been born with a quirk, that he would've never enrolled in the hero course, and would've been a normal citizen.
@Garomasta7 ай бұрын
My ass looking at Twitter on the morning I plan to watch this episode and the first thing I see is "All the times Aoyama being the traitor was foreshadowed".
@TheGurGur7 ай бұрын
I’m doing some speculation here, but the people who gave you shit for your mistrust of Aoyama tried to misdirect you. Just a theory because I been knew the reveal from reading the manga. Crazy af fr tho
@the_hero_gamer20862 ай бұрын
It's funny, my very first thought when I finally got to this scene was, "huh, guess Alicia was right after all" 😂
@manasasoba5837 ай бұрын
Thank you for being consideret with the Thumbnails for us I really appreciat it❤
@LethalShadow7 ай бұрын
To be fair, I think some of the people talking trash when you sus'ed Aoyama may have been trying to bury any spoiler comments etc. A kind of counter-spoiler approach. Maybe I'm giving people too much benefit of the doubt though.
@alphawolf74177 ай бұрын
Alicia, somehow the only person who can miss the point of the whole episode cause she's busy riding the high of calling something most people saw a mile away.
@oziancitizen7 ай бұрын
Never forget, Invisible Girl is in every frame!
@Juice19847 ай бұрын
While I wasn't a one that criticized you for calling out Aoyama as a mole, I will apologize for gaslighting you into believing someone less visually tangible as the mole. **Hontouni gomennasai**
@Absent_Fable7 ай бұрын
When i learned of Zeh Spy and watched how suspicious you were of Aoyama, i was Wheezing, had me weak in the knees seeing multiple moments of "this dude Hella snitching" 😂
@Valandar27 ай бұрын
9:22 Now THAT is a screenshot built for memes. :D
@nicolasrodriguezbadala10247 ай бұрын
Of course there was people trying to gaslight you into thinking Aoyama wasn't the traitor, those guys, me included probably already knew about this from the manga. That's why we were doing it 😂, all part of the plan 😈
@kriszgamer00137 ай бұрын
Tbh I saw the thumbnail before the actual episode and as soon as I saw the title "I CALLED IT!" I knew who you're talking about. 🤣
@supercyclone83424 ай бұрын
I just binged up to the current episode (S7E13) and I could not believe this happened! I almost came straight here after seeing this episode XD
@TTU_gamerguy7897 ай бұрын
Pray for Alicia's now destroyed room
@theblackbarracuda40897 ай бұрын
I Never actually said this in a comment or anything but I’ve been silently CLOWNING on Alicia for thinking that Aoyama was the mole, and this episode had mee SOBBING at the fact my first thought was “this bitch Alicia was right!” So absolutely, I am so sorry Alicia, you were right and I was a fool for doubting you.