I cant believe what is inside ALL FRAM oil filters!

Fram may try to remove this video. Do not use fram oil filters?? decide for yourself as i show the indisputable proof in a store fram are bad quality even on the shelves. I can't believe what was inside this wix xp filter that is also a important video to watch. Fram oil filters review before and after cut open. Nates interactive auto is showing 2015 ford f150 oil filters. comparison vs motorcraft oil filter next a wix oil filter. make sure to watch previous videos we test many engine oil filters such as amsoil, Mobil1 annual protection even Royal purple extended performance filter. The previous oil filter videos include Bosch oil filter, Napa gold oil filter. let us know if you would like to see STP oil filter. many oil filters of different brands and quality example fram , fram ultra synthetic. we include oem or original equipment oil filters to see if the manufacturer recommendeds the best oil filters. mann oil filters are best? how to find the best oil filter. Mahle oil filter review. filtron oil filters are some upcoming tests. pennzoil oil filters compared with the best. purolator boss is another great suggestion. pro tec oil filter cut open and review. what about cerma filter thats new to me. please tell us all motor oil filters you want us to review and cut open. like mopar oil filters and Microgard oil filter. join the NIA COMMUNITY.
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[@jondorman9111]

I just went to my Walmart it took me a few fram filters to find one with water in it so you are right I will never use a fram oil filter again

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

Why would there be rust if its coating. Plus why would you have a puddle of coating thats poor quality control.

[@arthurhilgendorf1211]

Visited a Walmart to check this out. The filters on the shelf are sealed so how could you tell unless someone (maybe you?) cut them open. Anyway, I did find a box that was open and yes there was a drop of “moisture “ in the bottom. Now, tell us how you know what that liquid is? Have you sampled it and run a chemical analysis to determine composition? I suspect it is some form of water soluble rust preventative. Very common in manufacturing facilities. Please, from now on don’t open sealed boxes on the shelf. Walmart security ought to nail you for that if you did it. Who wants to buy an opened box?

[@jeep146]

You would think if it was water it would be soaked in the filter media or evaporate. As far as rust the filter will be fully coated with oil. I change my oil on time using conventional oil. If it were used longer or under harsh conditions then I would use a higher priced filter.

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

They aren't all sealed i said in the video why not be honest

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

I touched the water watch the video and its not your typical quality bypass filter.

[@TheDickMan_]

Running Fram for 100k miles now changing oil every 3,750 miles per owners manual. Even my past vehicles. Never an issue. Everyone has become a super duper professor on youtube nowadays.

[@sailingaeolus]

Me too. I got 457k miles out of a Saturn SL. Ran Fram and Castrol for 300k miles of that.

[@VikingDudee]

Same, Never had an issue with fram on both my 99 and 94 suburban's, my 99 with 300k on the clock. Sure there are better out there, but if you change your oil when your suppose to, then there shouldn't be a problem.

[@TheDickMan_]

@@VikingDudee good mileage…. everyone is a youtube mechanic these days!!!!

[@neil1997]

3,750 miles? Wow

[@TheDickMan_]

@@neil1997 wow your ass… when you manufacture your own car let us all know how many miles per your owners manual we should change it at………

[@hosocat1410]

The only thing that matters is whether it filters out impurities. It is a disposable item and doesn't need to be high quality metal or rubber. I'm throwing it away every 5000 miles. I've used frams more than any other filter for 40 years and I've never had one leak and as far as I know they've never caused engine damage.

[@xlightssx]

I looked at several fram filters today, and I did notice what I believed was moisture inside of the filters. I picked the smallest filter (TG6607) and touched the bypass valve at the bottom of the filter, and it was oil. Fram is spraying a small coat of oil in their filters to prevent rust. Rust must be an issue with their filters for them to spray oil in them. It was not water.

[@RRaucina]

An emulsified oil - water based, like cutting fluid. No harm

[@catatumbo8390]

Moisture would evaporate before getting on the shelf.

[@faxmen09]

Nate, Nate, Nate. You need to take a closer look at the Motorcraft filter, it does have a bypass valve. The valve is built into the thread end endcap that you cut off and sits at top of parts at the end of video. The holes seen are part of the bypass design. Motorcraft wouldn't sell a Ford OEM/OES filter without a bypass. The other two filters have dome end bypass, which is more common.

[@TheTech9]

I second this

[@faxmen09]

@@TheTech9 You are a wise and informed man.

[@nexgencarguyscraig331]

Much agreed

[@stevenw2866]

It does have a bypass valve in the base plate assembly

[@YTsurferr]

The guy took some time to put together a very informative video, not sure why you have to be condescending because you have one useful piece of information?

[@j.decker7443]

Been using Fram filters for 40 years. never had an engine blow up. Get 200K, 300K and over 400K miles on motors with no problem. Obviously these are street driven vehicles not under high stress or in dirty environments. Biggest thing is to change oil and filter at about 3K to 5K miles and should not be an issue.

[@tarquineous]

I agree, but let's remember Fram makes three quality levels of filters. They've been doing this for over 20 years! So people don't have to buy the cardboard unless they want to.

[@paul9912]

Sounds like you got lucky. I'm not taking that chance.

[@njsongwriter]

I'm thinking of using Fram Ultra and only change the filter every 10,000 miles, while I continue changing the oil every 5,000 miles.

[@chriss1757]

Because if you change oil every 3000 miles, they work fine.

[@Mr_pai_pai]

@@njsongwriter put a fram ultra filter In normal fram filter box and self checkout~

[@walterk1221]

The oil bypass valve in the Motorcraft is part of the element.

[@stevenw2866]

Correct

[@joeb2588]

Motorshaft suck, as do ford's, gm, and fiat chryslers

[@walterk1221]

@@joeb2588 agreed, Lada is the only worthwhile vehicle.

[@joeb2588]

@@walterk1221 Lada, wow! They are supposedly built very well. Here in the states though I have to say Toyota, Honda, some Subaru, some Hyundai, and Mazda are generally good. But Toyota is prob the most reliable. Although I can say I have 75k on my 18 Elantra and haven't had any problems.

[@MrMOGHammer]

@@joeb2588 75k is pretty low to determine whether it’s reliable or not

[@samuellewis7772]

I've been using Fram filters for years and never had any issues with them leaking or bad filtration. but I also don't buy into running oil for 5000+ miles I always change mine in the 3000-3500 mile range.

[@dwendt44]

The fiber end cap on the Fram is also used on several other brands of filters including some Wix. The by pass valve in the Motorcraft is at the top, that little humped up section.

[@armedfarm3429]

Ya it is. This Dude needs to be taken off the net for spreading lies. He has no Idea what he's doing or talking about. Some people might really believe him, but I hope not. He needs medicine or something. Serious

[@jtit2025]

You missed the point! if you change your oil as often as you should 5k, then you don't need it to last forever! lol I have been using fram forever. over 400k on my car. been fine.

[@MrROCKINRANDALL]

same here on my ls silverado

[@RigmorTalonbeard]

Ok but it's literally no more expensive to go and buy an oem quality Motorcraft filter. Have fun with your paper filters.

[@RigmorTalonbeard]

I think it was you who missed the point

[@nathanael9010]

Just because your engine hasn’t blown up doesn’t mean fram filters are good

[@josephbarrerareyes]

the best is the original. OEMs. Motorcraft, AC Delco, Mopar, etc.

[@edwardogarcia5800]

I use fram filters change them every 3,000 miles and never never had any issues with the filters also Walmart does them in every oil change

[@josephhoward7496]

I have been using Fram in everything for 30 years , no problems..

[@robertbell525]

Same, 30+ years, several different cars, 300K miles, never any oil related issues. Engines run like new. Fram orange can, synthetic oil, changed 4-5K.

[@dingznthingz]

I just opened a Fram Extra Guard PH1 oil filter I used for 8000 miles on a 4.0 liter inline six with 274,180 miles in a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I used a high-quality oil filter cutter I bought from Amazon. It leaves no metal particulates when cutting open a filter, unlike using a grinder or hacksaw to open a filter. The Fram pleated filtering material was completely intact, evenly spaced, and there no gaps. The paper end caps are still securely attached to the pleated filtering material. There were no abnormal signs of wear on the filtering portion of the filter. The silicone check valve and the by-pass valve were fully intact and operational and showed no abnormal signs of wear. When I put the filter back together and squeezed the top of the filter to the filter can, I had about 3/32 of an inch crush, which indicates the filter spring did not loose its tension. For having 8000 miles of use on the Fram PH1 filter, I believe this filter could have easily exceeded its 10,000 mile recommended usage. A Fram Extra Guard filter cost me around $4.17 at Wal-Mart. Other compatible filters for my Jeep were 1 1/2 to 4 times the price. If a Fram Extra Guard filter is garbage as they say, Fram would not have been selling oil filters since 1932. I'll continue opening the oil filters as I change them to see if this is not a fluke. I have no reason to stop buying Fram Extra Guard filters.

[@dieselhead254]

Fram are now owned by the Sofegi Group who also own Purflux which is another filter manufacturer and based in France. Wix Filters are now owned by the Mann Hummel group who also Filtron which is Polish based. My preference would be a Mann filter who seem to the majority supplier of OE filters to car assembly plans around the world. I saw a listing online for genuine Kia OE filters, made in Korea and the small print on the filter can stated Mann Hummel who have a factory in Korea.

[@mr.boostang2064]

For me its Motorcraft for my Ford and Toyota oil filters for my Toyota, both with PennzoilUltra every 5k miles. I replaced the valve cover gasket on a 400k mile fleet ford truck that had only seen MC filters and MC oil. The internals on this truck looked spotless and the vehicle always ran smoothly and never burned oil, oci at this site were every 5k miles. I also replaced the valve cover gasket on a 380k mile 4runner and it had a orange Fram filter on it, the internals had absolutely no varnish and shiny metal everywhere, it never burns oil and runs silky smooth. I asked the owner (my uncle) how often does he change the oil and he said every 3k miles, he uses conventional oil he finds on sale with the included filter. That was 6yrs ago and that 4runner is still being used as a daily commuter. Verdict: frequency of 3k-5k mile oil changes with a quality oil are far more important than the quality of oil filters.

[@tarquineous]

I agree 90 percent. There is no substitute for changing the engine oil. An extra bypass filter will keep the oil cleaner much longer, but the oil will still need to be changed. I prefer the Fram Tough Guard and 3 to 5k changes.

[@arthurhilgendorf1211]

So what does thickness of the filter media have to do with it’s ability to trap particles? SAE has J standards for measuring filtration. Length will affect surface area and possibly pressure drop across the filter. You obviously prefer coil springs to leaf springs for pressure relief, but you show no test data to prove one is superior over the other. A lot of personal opinion in this demonstration.

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

The problem is the poor quality control and materials used.

[@TranslatedAssumption]

@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO what materials?

[@Milner62]

I assume you are talking fram and wix, they both have a coil spring bypass just like I bet the ford does as well. The only difference is fram has theirs mounted on the leaf spring which when it is flipped over you can see the coil spring clearly. In any case the wix and frame are inferior to the motorcraft unit just in placement of the bypass valve alone.

[@redpaw40]

@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO The motorcraft does have a bypass valve, it's on the top. the way of thinking here is that if the filter is so filled up with crap, that it can't flow. Then the filter can bypass it, with out having to push it through all that crap that plugged it up just to get to the valve. It can just bypass the whole filter, crap and all.

[@348loadedlever3]

Well I got 3 trucks and I change the oil every 10,000 miles, I use pennzoil 10w-30 and only use fram filters. Funny thing is I have between 250,000 and 300,000 miles on each truck. I still remember all the people telling me my trucks won’t last, and none of those people ever kept a vehicle long enough to prove how they do things is better then the way I do things. Just saying

[@paul9912]

Sounds like you got lucky. I'm not taking that chance. Enjoy that rust and paper and water getting in your engine. And who knows what other debris getting through.the I'll spend a dollar more and get a quality oil filter. I think my car is worth it. And not risking everything.

[@jeffleblanc8850]

I agree with 348 loaded lever the filters are no worse or no better you pay triple for a really expensive oil filter it’s really expensive to change oil now days so I can see guys using fram I know people that’s used them forever and no problem ever I think we have heard enough of this bullshit

[@paul9912]

@@jeffleblanc8850 Don't feel the badd because you just figured out you were lied to about your fram filter all this time Iol You want to continue taking that chance of something happening good luck to you. You don't need to pay triple for a better oil filter Because every oil filter even the cheapest ones are better than fram so there's no point in even using it

[@njsongwriter]

@@paul9912 The Fram Ultra for our car won't have any problems.

[@paul9912]

@@njsongwriter good luck lol

[@SlikLizrd]

Regarding the Motorcraft filters -- The Motorcraft filters have a totally different (and much better) By-Pas Valve. The Motorcraft ABV is at the INLET end of the filter, which prevents dirt from re-entering the engine after being scrubbed off the outer surface of the media.

[@01mustang05]

Good catch; false information at 7:08

[@fatimadnoor7563]

What upsets me is that he didn’t put them back in the box ..

[@Jigsaw-ow9iz]

Fatima D Noor well you don’t know that he might have off camera

[@faxmen09]

I guessing he likely put them back after he stopped filming.

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

@@Jigsaw-ow9iz im sorry i didn't think anyone would want to watch me put them back. I have worked in stores so i would never not put things back

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

@@faxmen09 @The incredible Hemi im sorry i didn't think anyone would want to watch me put them back. I have worked in stores so i would never not put things back

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

@The incredible Hemi im sorry i didn't think anyone would want to watch me put them back. I have worked in stores so i would never not put things back

[@Ner0blaz3r]

The motorcraft filter has a thread-end bypass valve. Its the metallic protrusion on the top of the filter with the little holes milled into the top. If you look down in the filter nearest to the threads, you can see the bypass spring. I personally think motor-craft oil filters are built very well but it’s not a very efficient filter. 30 microns at 93.7 percent is at the bare minimum of the industry standard.

[@matthewray5374]

MOtorcraft oil by-pass is on top where the anti drain back valve is at.

[@nimbly1693]

I really think you overstated the quality "issue" of the outside filter gasket. Having changed a lot of oil, the only time I have seen a gasket cause a leak has been when someone didn't realize the old gasket didn't come off with the old filter.

[@altonrowell613]

I've been a mechanic for 35 plus years and I have never had a oil filter leak.

[@arthurhilgendorf1211]

You say the gasket material is high or low quality. How do you know? What material is used? What lab test did you perform to identify the material composition of each?

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

Specifications, you can see for yourself on each filter website.

[@arthurhilgendorf1211]

If I remember correctly the cartons all say “meets or exceeds manufacturers warranty requirements”. That means they have passed some very rigorous internal and independent testing. I’d be very careful about bad mouthing any of these products if you don’t have anything more than your own personal opinion. I’ve spent over thirty years testing engines in R&D engine dyno lab testing environment and have seem leakage failures on every brand of filter. Oil sample data from an independent lab proved the efficiency of the filter media. No engine failure was ever traced to a filter as cause. Engines ran 100 to 1000 hr tests. You will need some very detailed test data to convince me you have more than a personal opinion.

[@Nono-rh4lr]

And again Arthur is dead on. Lots of engine run time on basic filters with no issue. It’s not to say a manufacturing issue can’t produce a defective product from time to time but there is a difference between finding a defect and claiming something has a disastrous design.

[@michaelsoutherland3023]

Sure the rust “meets or exceeds manufacturers warranty requirements,” and the rust may simply be a "time to time" kind of thing that's gone on for a decade.

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

Absolutely FACTS thank you

[@dannyo6699]

Nate, just an FYI, the anti-drain back valve in the Fram filter, is a silicone valve just like the other 2. Obviously it's not the same shape as the other 2, but it's a proprietary design that Fram developed and uses, and is completely silicone.

[@AB-coyote]

Highly dramatic. Cut open a Fram Ultra and report back.

[@lunartwilight]

The Fluid is not water. Water evaporates at room temperature quite rapidly. The substance is likely a proprietary blend of some sort of petroleum to slow the effects of corrosion from shipping and storing.

[@Bore_Punch]

You’re shitting on the fram and are comparing it against the motorcraft. Motorcraft is made by puralator and are known for tearing. Specifically the fl820.

[@vgameh8er]

Why does everbody bash frams cheapest filter... It's made cheap to be a cheap option for consumers. Look at frams other filters, they are just as high quality as other manufacturers.

[@vgameh8er]

@@kingpins9 you're correct... if you buy them from normal outlets like AutoZone, but if you check Walmart there is maybe a couple, at most, filters that barely come close to frams low price point. Fram owns the market in terms of lowest priced filters... so long as you get them from Walmart.

[@brucecoleman7412]

The moisture could be condensation caused by moving the filter between environments or different temperatures. If you let the filter sit out in a room with stable temperature for 24 hours, does the moisture evaporate? If so, it’s probably condensation. If not, it’s not water, but probably some excess machine oil from stamping the parts. If it’s water, it would quickly vaporize and be eliminated by the crankcase ventilation system. Oil would simply mix in. The real problem is the rest of the filter. Until an engine reaches operating temperature, the temperature differential between combustion and the block creates condensation that drains into the oil. It takes a few minutes of driving at operating temperature for the crankcase ventilation system to eliminate it. Condensation also collects in the exhaust system. This gets removed when the exhaust system is heated from front to back by engine and exhaust heat. Short trips dilute engine oil and put water and acid into the exhaust system.

[@leoguy1609]

Went to my local Walmart, their Fram oil filters were dry.

[@dwendt44]

Some Fram filters do have 'oil' from the machining and assembly process left inside. And 'water' would have evaporated long ago.

[@xlightssx]

Nate the by pass valve on the motorcraft is on top, all filters have bypass. There are three types of bypass valves, one on top like the motorcraft, bottom like your fram & wix, and a combination valve witch is a anti drain back valve that also works as a bypass in conjunction with a double base plate, instead of the single base plates like shown on your video. Supertech uses the combination valve on their ecore filters. If you cut open a supertech ecore filter (ST8), you will notice the base plate is made up of two pieces of stamped steal instead of one. It’s my least favorite design but it cuts cost. The bypass being in front, prevents the dirt on the filter media from entering the motor. That being said, the motorcraft filter is the best quality filter for the money, with it only being a dollar more than the supertech.

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

I have stated in the comments its not a valve that opens and closes its just a opening. Allowing the none filtered oil in with it. The design is just cheaper thats the reason its used.

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

Most bypass valves allow unfiltered oil also but the motorcraft allows un filtered oil all the time.

[@01mustang05]

@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO Where did you get that information??? - - - "the motorcraft allows un filtered oil all the time" ??? ARE YOU JOKING?

[@01mustang05]

No, there are many no-bypass oil filters. No bypass is needed in warm climates or the summer season and why would an oil filter clog up if it's changed regularly?

[@xlightssx]

@@01mustang05 please provide me a oil filter (that is not cartridge) brand that doesn’t use a bypass?

[@EmbraceTheSuck]

I’m not buying what he’s saying. I looked a Frams at Walmart recently and saw no signs of moisture or oil. I don’t use them, but, they looked better than a few years ago. I use either Wix or OEM

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

Look at all the frams others have also checked, why would i care other than to help people.

[@robertogomez8100]

Since this channel has became international a good video might be cutting open German engine oil filters. It could be MANN vs MAHLE vs Bosch Distance Plus it would be useful to know which German oil filter is best of the best.

[@Criterion515]

With the serious misconceptions in this video I'm sure I wouldn't trust another one.

[@robertogomez8100]

Criterion515 I have no issues with Nates videos, I have followed some tips from this channel with great results, for me it has meant money saving because using some of the products tested here have help me gain more than 15% of fuel efficiency.

[@Criterion515]

@@robertogomez8100 Glad you've had good luck so far, but this is the only vid I've seen from this person, and glaring mistakes like saying the rust preventative oil in filters is water, and that a filter doesn't have a bypass when it absolutely does are more than enough for me to make the decision that my time is better spent with more knowledgeable reviewers.

[@JoeSmith-bl3sp]

I've been using Fram filters for about 30 years and never had any issues

[@lorenray9479]

Can you use a strong tin snip and maybe rock it to cut the rollover crimp??????

[@nategrube352]

Motorcraft does have a bypass valve, it’s made differently though and is in the top section of the filter towards the base instead of the bottom.

[@denniss9620]

A little knowledge is so dangerous.

[@josephklimchock5412]

Always overlooked on the Motorcraft filters is those large oval holes for the oil to pass thru. This provide way better flow at all times, only a few aftermarket high end filters duplicate these oval hole exactly.......I buy OEM Motorcraft filters, they have never failed me and are under 5 bucks....why use anything else for a Ford.

[@cadiminder892]

When you pulled off the anti drainback valve you said they were all good but you said the fram was terrible but as far as i can tell they all look like good quality silicone valves, whats the deal?

[@Nono-rh4lr]

Cadiminder lots of hate for Fram but honestly it’s not well founded. Fram / Champion Labs makes so many filters from Honda to Supertech. They can use fiber (not paper) end caps or metal. The oil filter media is “cellulose” and we don’t worry about it being “paper” but when they use the same type of material for the end caps people freak out. There are some really expensive super car makers who choose to use fiber end caps. One reason is it’s easy to adhere the filter media to a like substance. And therefore use less glue and have a stronger mating. Look there are millions of cars running all over the world using this design and you just don’t see cars dead on the road due to filters. The truth as difficult as it is for some to hear is that filtration isn’t even as important as most people think. I know that sounds crazy but it’s true. Look at some of the big Japanese manufacturers. They use filters with 70% efficiency and recommended every other oil change filter changes. Why? I’m sure people will say to save cost on advertised maintenance but that’s not the case. In depth study from engineering revealed that modern engine’s produce so little debris that filters were being tossed with barely any contamination. I know the old timers felt with a different story back when motors were loose and sludges up all the time but today is different. Anyway I appreciate the effort this guy is going through but it’s just a type of OCD and you will be fine running any filter on his table.

[@shawn6684]

@@Nono-rh4lr my wife has an 2009 f150 with 5.4 we bought the truck with 31,000 miles on it now it has almost 170,000 I've used in between ford and fram oil filters never had one leak or exploded same goes for my 2011 ford edge. Lol which has about 149,000 miles now .it was cool to see this video though .

[@njsongwriter]

@@Nono-rh4lr Great Answer

[@MustangGuru]

The motorcraft filter has the by pass on the front , the spring plate is just to keep the filter in place.

[@shaneguthrie5142]

The by-pass on the Motorcraft is built in the top, you can see the holes. They do this so it doesn't got by a dirty filter.

[@AverageJoeHotRodShow]

Moisture from the factory (over a period) would be sucked out of the filter by the cardboard box and cellulose media. Both are hygroscopic. It may be a thin rust preventative. Short term moisture can be environmental condensation from after it left the factory. That’s not something you can pin on the manufacturer. That being said I’ve seen Frams cause issues on high performance engines.

[@Zona-dw9rp]

"Hydrophelic," not "hygroscopic."

[@AverageJoeHotRodShow]

Zona 3141 cellulose is both hygroscopic and hydrophilic. It will absorb water on contact AND pull it out of the environment’s air (like a closed filter box)

[@Zona-dw9rp]

@@AverageJoeHotRodShow Not being a pain, trust me. Hydrophobic or hydrophelic, not not hygroscopic. Again, not trying to be a pain !!! I am a science teacher and correct little things like this, all in good nature.

[@AverageJoeHotRodShow]

Zona 3141 not a pain, just incorrect. Google around and you will find cellulose is hygroscopic. It pulls moisture from the air. That is what I am saying happened.

[@Zona-dw9rp]

@@AverageJoeHotRodShow You're right !! Have a great 4th ...

[@marcuscook5145]

I only use Fram when doing a temporary oil change, such as when a head gasket blows and I'm trying to flush coolant out of the oil passages. Other than that, Purolator One for me.

[@CupwakeRBLX]

Yea because water/coolant is gonna go in there anyway.

[@faridghu192]

Forgot to mention that I am the original owner of the 2007 Honda Civic and since new only used Mobil one and Fram combo. The car was shipped to Aguadilla Puerto Rico cruising around the island. Original clutch too.

[@faridghu192]

I replace the oil and filter on my 2007 Civic myself. Mobile one 5/20, Fram 7317,. I've 230K+ miles. I'll continue to buy Fram filters at Walmart. Thanks for your concern.

[@Nono-rh4lr]

See. Like this guy one of likely millions of people who have used Fram filters for thousands of miles with no issue. Why. Because filtration isn’t actually that big of a deal in modern engines. There is no need to do it but you could likely get 20,000 miles or more out of the cheapest oil filter. I know some people don’t like to hear that and say it’s cheap insurance to change it every time. And I guess I agree. But it doesn’t change the fact that it’s not quite as important as some people make it out to be.

[@njsongwriter]

How about those Super Tech filters for less than $3.00?

[@camryuser]

@@njsongwriter Super Tech = Rebranded Wix filters. Very good value. They used to be made by Champion several years back.

[@HH-CA]

you cmpared diffrent brands but NOT the equale GRADEs from each brand ......that is not a fair comparision at all !!!!!!!

[@Nick-GR]

Wix has only two series, normal and XP. And they are both the best in the market. They beat Bosch, SCT, Motorcraft, etc. Only maybe K&N's are better but too expensive.

[@memopadilla5931]

​@@Nick-GR LOL that's not true.. WIX are'nt the best in the market.. they are good.. but not as good as a Fram Ultra... Go look it up at bobishtheoilguy forums... and the K&N's are HORRIBLY NOTORIOUS for leaking. .... and they now cost around $5

[@TDIETZ22]

@@memopadilla5931 yup this

[@LionWithTheLamb]

Wix / Wix XP, Napa Gold / Platinum (Wix makes Gold / Platinum), Mann, Bosch Distance Plus (Mann makes some Bosch filters) is what I recommend.

[@velezdragon3574]

Stepside1986 agreed wix is the best

[@joeb2588]

I like mobil 1. If not available, I grab Wix.

[@FlatThunder]

I heard about people referring to Fram oil filters as 'the orange can of death'. I am not sure if it came about from your video series or possibly other video reviewers. I have not seen anything overly concerning about Fram oil filters. I will still use them with confidence. Go team USA & Fram! I may have to post my own review sometime.

[@PneumaticFrog]

honestly, just try ryco, theyre pretty decent, similar price.

[@VX3800]

@@PneumaticFrog we have Ryco in Australia as one of the main brands and the main at some shops. Quality seems pretty good without opening them up. Always used them no issues

[@PneumaticFrog]

@@VX3800 yeah I live in Australia, never had bad things with it

[@tumyung9666]

not to bright are ya?

[@danp7463]

I've used Fram oil filters before and even cheaper ones that had ultrasonicly bonded fiber end disk's. The Fram adbv is silicone and the micron efficiency rating is @ 25 microns.

[@marcguevara162]

Fram filter on my car right now, ohhhh my! Hope I make it home!

[@raulserna9871]

I dont use fram orange because it is an entry level filter. I do use fram tough guard and above

[@mattbrodnicki3696]

Also, stop getting hung up on End Cap material in oil filters. It plays NO part in the filtration process. "

[@maxtheroofer8004]

no, but being saturated and under pressure, COULD deteriorate easily

[@theredlatino4930]

Fram should never be used by people who drive 10k plus miles oil intervals. I have used fram oil filters for 5k mile intervals and haven't had a problem yet. If you wanna go 10k miles, use a more expensive eliable filter but if you are good about changing your oil on time. Fram works just fine, every 5k miles change oil and filter always no matter what....thank me later

[@martinschulz9381]

In my many years working in the field, I have never seen a Fram filter (air or oil) on a commercial engine of any kind. Mostly Baldwin, WIX, Fleetguard or OEM. A parts guy told me once that KZbin did a lot in exposing Fram. They are always sold in the bottom of the barrel stores.

[@bobteschel5516]

I buy a filter to take dirt out of oil. Which one takes more out? In the 10 to 20 micron range? Efficiency and capacity are the most important.

[@CupwakeRBLX]

I recommend Amsoil/royal purple oil filter.

[@pauljoey7977]

The moisture is a oil to prevent rust

[@WSCLATER]

Good video. Clear and informative. But you do not need the music. I do not mean to be critical. Just a suggestion. I do appreciate your efforts.

[@bradanderson1024]

I think itoil to keep the metal from rusting before you use it.

[@timb7775]

I feel better using genuine parts. I'm always finding deals and they usually cost me less than Aftermarket parts do.

[@jeffmercier7252]

You do not have to reset the 0 on your calipers everytime . Also just use the narrow part of the caliper at the end. And deburr both sides of the can. When measuring the paper filter you should be using a caliper that has a pressure meter on it do you always use the same pressure when measuring delicate materials.

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

I measure each more than once all around housing.

[@lastfm4477]

@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO You totally missed the point. You cannot measure a round surface using the "wide" part of the calipers. THAT is why they have the "knife" edge at the tip -- so you measure the thickness, not the thickness + degrees of radius.

[@irondukeiv]

The Motorcraft has a thread end bypass valve that is factory spec by Ford and the Fram and Wix have dome end bypass valves.

[@nancysmith9487]

Maybe not moisture, oil to keep it from rusting and filer oiled to help debri from going through filter...

[@edwalker8375]

Fram are great filters (??)... I've used em forever.. My fav.. The bit of rust won't hurt. Prob. just moist storage conditions.. It's just personal pref.really, In all my years I've never seen a " bad" filter..Amazing how people react to "talk" as proof, "talk" is all this is. I'll always use Fram... Fram is approved by "ISO" they know everything....Maybe this guy used to work for Fram and got fired..😁

[@jasonking8671]

I use OE filters on my newer vehicles but have always used fram on my 2006 pontiac vibe. Its has 186 miles on it and have never had a problem. I change the oil every 6000 miles

[@metatronmen2431]

A very important thing is how the oil flows thru the media and filter, is actually no videos about it, is probably easy to do with a oil pump cranked for a electric motor.

[@RM-lf8ho]

I checked it out and It’s a small amount of oil. Probably to prevent rusting if they sit on the shelf too long.

[@chriss1757]

Of course, Motorcraft is what Ford puts on the vehicle and recommends for it. But heck, what does Ford know? They just built the thing.

[@emilycoombe1203]

I've always used Ryco oil filters , never had an issue with them ... High quality for a good price .. they come with a plastic cap on them to keep moisture out

[@xlightssx]

Emily where do you buy Ryco filters?

[@jayden793]

@@xlightssx do they sell them in America Ryco is Australian owned

[@xlightssx]

@@jayden793 ok, so I don’t think Ryco is sold in the US.

[@blackstorm86]

Unfortunately, this is nothing new for Fram. They've been notorious for poor quality for decades. I haven't used Fram filters in 40+ years.

[@carlosbah4623]

Thanks for uncover whats going on with Fram filters

[@TDIETZ22]

Except this is one of the cheapest frams available. Rated for for low mile oil changes. Get a synthetic and it's a tank built for 20K miles

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

I show frams best filter in the previous video and its even worse.

[@Nono-rh4lr]

NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO I agree that rust inside the Fram Ultra you guys open was not good. Even the filter media looked strange. I’ll give you that one. While I don’t agree with your stance on the “fiber” end caps you are correct about that rust. I honestly wonder what the deal was there. I’ve never seen that in the few ultra cut opens I’ve done. Thanks for sharing.

[@njsongwriter]

@@Nono-rh4lr There is no rust inside the Fram Ultra filter for our car. Guaranteed.

[@tommyhammel]

One thing I do like about the Fram is the grip stuff on it

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

I love this lmao

[@tommyhammel]

Psycho I don’t use them either

[@trigger1030]

You’re also putting the calipers right on the ground area of the filter can. As Brandon would say “C’mon man”

[@Blue_Collar_Hunter]

I heard about this a long time ago. WIX is a much better and safer option. I used those fram for years just to realise they were garbage. Alot of fram comes with either moisture or rust.

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

im sorry i didn't think anyone would want to watch me put them back in the box on camera. I have worked in stores so i would never not put things back

[@KP-zi6jx]

Absolutely adorable!

[@JD-ns9mr]

Was it water or an oil film in the fram filter?

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

Water vapor.

[@JD-ns9mr]

NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO wow that’s crazy I’ve never seen that. I use the ultra synthetic fram all the time. Maybe because I’m in Arizona where its really hot most of the year and the water evaporates.

[@countryfamilyalways7280]

Maybe just brought into store and change in temp

[@bikerdog2b]

Water would have evaporated

[@TDIETZ22]

@@JD-ns9mr the ultra is an amazing filter

[@vapewrld5313]

wow. i’m doing an oil change tomorrow and purchased the basic fram oil filter. I grabbed it and shined a light inside and sure enough, there was moisture/ humidity in there! No thanks, returning it tomorrow and going to a proper auto parts store. Thank you for this

[@JackZeroZ]

Motor craft DOES have a bypass valve, it is on the opposite side as the others, it's an unique design.

[@lukeWiz44]

The motor craft has a bypass valve. It’s inside the top of it.

[@MouthfulOfZach]

This dude probably shouldn't drive on humid days if he's scared of that little bit of moisture.

[@lea801]

You should work for nascar. If I were ever to get my 91 truck restored I hope it would be from someone like you. Great at details.

[@cammontreuil7509]

This is just fram bashing. Many different variables going on to either ruin or ones that keep your engine in good health.

[@JohnDeere1945]

I like seeing the different brand comparisons and really show the quality. if you do your own oil and plan to keep your vehicle for a while i never understood why save a few buck and risk your engine. everyone has their own opinion on it though. i am pretty impressed with the Purolatorboss filters. they are 13 dollars or so but they look to be a real good quality and compete to the royal purple or amsoil filter. if you do 5 to 10 thousand oil change intervals a couple dollars isnt gonna hurt for something good.

[@robertogomez8100]

You´re right they can be even cheaper if you extend the use for about 10k miles but you have to use it with a top quality synthetic oil.

[@JohnDeere1945]

@@robertogomez8100 that is true. If you are a user of synthetic oil yes its great and worth it. Just kind of an example. Im sure theres good filters for conventional but these videos are good to open peoples eyes and really decide what you want to use your money on.

[@jonmorris4730]

the cardboard box would absorb any moisture it the filter. there is no way its water, has to be a light oil

[@danaarens7361]

Fram filters never disappoint.

[@geoben1810]

I haven't used Fram in years and unless there's no other filter available in the world I won't use a Fram.

[@sukheeyi]

Motorcraft bypass is on the top. See those holes?. When the high pressure press the element down those holes will allow oil bypass. BTW, droplets on the Fram is lubrication fluid not water. That’s quality manufacturing! I don’t use Fram but those are not water. Fram treat you bad? You are going to lose viewership if you keep this up.

[@lunartwilight]

FRAM filters also carry a higher micron rating than most of its competitors >10 microns. The wix coming close at 21 microns. The appearance of the cellulose filter element is not super critical. The element is partially synthetic in the fram resulting in a higher micron rating.

[@leiladaquil6587]

parts must not be stored in cold environment to avoid moisture capture during temperature changes.

[@popmygate]

I’ve never seen this problem before?, I’m in Toronto canada, it cooler temperatures here we don’t get moisture buildup, or rust on filters like that, but I will take a look next time inside lol

[@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO]

Thanks please do but look at many of them.

[@YouTubeCert]

Motorcraft Bypass valve is located at the top of the element, so it doesn’t pick up excess material that’s already been filter out of the oil.

[@lukeWiz44]

Yep. For a dude that reviews oil filters for a living, that surprises me that he didn’t know that.

[@severnsea3924]

The Motorcraft filter's holes are on the inner perimeter of the metal part, not in the usual ring around it, but they are there. I've seen Fram for myself, they really are as bad as the videos say. If you value your engine, avoid. Even if you don't believe they're so bad, why risk it when there are clearly other good quality filters out there

[@MrHarleynut]

The Motorcraft pressure relief / bypass valve is on the bottom instead of the top.

[@Milner62]

Thats why no sane person that is into cars will use a fram filter. Wix is better now but Wix still has a bad tastes for many people with how they used to collapse when trying to get the filter removed. On the bypass valve the motorcraft filter has the bypass at the top. The beauty of the motorcraft bypass is the oil that bypasses never flows along the oil filter media thus it wont dislodge trapped particles and resuspend them in the oil. The wix and fram with the bypass on the bottom of the filter requires the oil flow when bypassing to flow down along the length of the filter media to the bypass on the bottom dislodging trapped particles and resuspend them in the oil back into your engine.

[@joshuatracy4829]

Your buying from walmart they buy the low end and b grade stuff to keep it cheap. I've used fram for ever and no issues but I dont use orange I buy there more expensive ones

[@dannyo6699]

Walmart doesn't buy low end B grade Fram filters, they are the exact same filters you can buy in any other store that carry's them. The difference in price is that Walmart contracts with Fram to provide them as their main filter line, that's why you see hundreds of them in every store, and not only oil filters, but also air filters and cabin air filters too. Walmart and Fram are corporate partners. I work in a Walmart Auto Care center as an Auto Care Technician, and we have commercial Fram filters we use for our shop filters. They are called the Fram COR series filters, (don't bother looking for them someplace, they are only available to Walmart Auto Care Centers) but they are comparable to the Extra Guard and Tough Guard filters sold on the floor. If you prefer to use one of the floor filters, like the Mobil 1 or K and N or even the Ultra Synthetic Fram, we will be happy to go get one off the floor for you and install that one for you instead of the COR filter we normally use. You will also get a $2.10 dollar credit towards the price of the filter you pick because we didn't use our COR filter, so the floor priced filter is less expensive on your work order. You can even purchase your own filter someplace else and bring it, and we'll install that for you instead. And yes we will credit you for your own filter on your work order. You'll get a $2.10 credit for us not using our filter.

[@AndysDogHouse]

Hey Nate. Great video. I'm a subscriber now. 🍁👍👍

[@trigger1030]

I like that vise on the glass table

[@fubartotale3389]

Bypass valve is use specific. The filter for my 2018 Outback does not have one due to the mounting orientation.

[@njsongwriter]

Guess what? This in NOT inside ALL Fram filters.