BeckArnley Oil Filter 041-0812 Cut Open Oil Filter Comparison

[@vermontvermont9292]

How do you find a longer filter? My car uses this same filter (all honda filters are the same) except for the s2000. Anyway, how would i go about finding a longer version of say one of these filters?

[@WhipCityWrencher]

You have to do some research. Google it. The internet has lots of info. I'll pin your question so that it sits on top. Someone may have a better way of doing it.

[@vermontvermont9292]

@WhipCityWrencher thank you!

[@Colorado_Native]

There used to be a great site online for looking up specs on oil filters, but no more. If you go to Bob is the oil guy, you can find the info you need with a little digging. Look at the specs of the one you are replacing by its part number - threads, oil gasket inner and outer dimensions, capacity, relief valve specs, etc, and you should be able to find something. The threads, the gasket inner and outer diameters and by-pass are very important to keep in mind. I have a Jeep with a 5.7 V-8, and it ran a little warm off-roading. A larger filter, a cooler, and a bypass valve with a small micron oil filter took care of that. I ended up with three oil filters on it, but no more overheating. On the filter, you want to make sure it is not too big or long. The one mistake I made was getting a very large capacity low micron filter, but it hung down too far and may have gotten ruptured. I also installed an oil filter and cooler on the power steering. I know this is a long answer, but hope this helps. Have a great Christmas.

[@richcombs4805]

A Toyota dealer was able to confirm a longer one for my Camry which had already been approved during COVID lack of parts era. Try a Honda dealer and a Acura dealer as well.

[@faxmen09]

IDK what your vehicle is but since ~2001 vast majority Honda use the 7317/14610 application size. Really, the 7317 application should be plenty big enough. The topic BA filters are the same size as Honda OEM, that even though the filter number ends in "12" which generally means the shorty 6607/14612. Not here though, it is the correct 7317 size filter. Not aware of a longer filter. Imo, stick with 7317/14610 application size, it's plenty.

[@daves2520]

Both filters are very well made, no excess glue.

[@peskypeet]

I love it when they have that plastic seal to avoid contamination from shipping & handling. I'm a bit surprised to see the Japanese filter media with more holes in it. Very nice to see the clean construction. AKA - No glue slopped all over the place that seems to have rather unfortunately become somewhat common even amongst the higher cost well known filters.

[@spankyham9607]

Beck/Arnley parts are really good. I got some gaskets a month ago from Rock of Auto that are also made in Japan. The Japan filter is definitely a step up and I hope they continue to make them in Japan.

[@justhere4721]

Beck/Arnley is a parts seller not a manufacturer. You'll sometimes find unbranded OEM parts in their boxes.

[@spankyham9607]

@@justhere4721 Ya. I think the Beck / Arnley oil filters are made by Denso

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

Not that good, and the Korean filter has a better medium.

[@JamesLee-oe7mt]

For the type of people watching these videos, we're good at maintenance. Regular changes even with a subpar filter is still good.... Compared to the average Altima owner 😂.... Basically... They're both fine

[@mikakolari3201]

I'm guessing that black Korean filter is made by Mann & Hummel. Merry Christmas to Pete and everyone else!!!🎅🤶🧑‍🎄

[@daewooparts]

It is ,its made by DongWoo Mann & Hummel aka M&H Korea 🇰🇷

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Merry Christmas🎄🎅

[@robertkeefer1552]

In this case it's either or to choose. I would take either one.

[@vacuumtube1954]

Good morning Pete, great video ! Watching this while I'm sipping another morning coffee. Have a good weekend my friend.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks! Good morning, have a good weekend also👍

[@zmelli]

The VIC Filter is an economy Filter that is common in Japanese auto parts stores. I would pay extra and go OEM.

[@faxmen09]

Nice comparison Whip. Without an efficiency rating, it's just a guess. Overall design, I prefer the Japan made with silicone adbv, more media. Both use captured P-type gasket which some think is superior. IDK, used majority standard for decades, fine. Speculating, neither has great efficiency, like the Honda OEM. Cellulose based media. Thanks to Adam in NC for the filters, and you Whip for the vid.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

You're Welcome faxmen09, Thanks for the feedback👍

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

They're not that good, the medium is poor.

[@faxmen09]

@@ChrisPatrick-q6k As I stated, without an efficiency rating, just guessing. My guess is that neither very efficient. But, both look to be well made filters.

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

@@faxmen09 You can see the holes in the medium, that's not great.

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

@faxmen09 Agreed, although I'd not use them.

[@u.e.u.e.]

Wow! How thought of this in the beginning? 😉 Both will do their job! 😃👍 Thanks to the donor! 🤗

[@WhipCityWrencher]

👍

[@RetirednbrokeinPa]

Either filter would likely be acceptable. I would prefer a bit higher rate of filtration, but there are a lot of filters out there that show “holes” in the media under the microscope. It is fascinating, but I’m not an engineer, just a retired mechanic and product user. I enjoy these videos a lot, so keep up the good work and have a Merry Christmas.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

I'm glad you like the videos, Thank You and Merry Christmas🎄🎅

[@hansenriquerach-mendoza3515]

Both are good made despite the fact japanisse has a less quality media filtering on the scope either one is quite fine design. Amd yes it is quite hard to say which one is better than the other one.

[@kristianhermann5971]

First time I've seen rivets holding the bypass valve on - thanks for the review Whip

[@WhipCityWrencher]

You're welcome👍 I probably have but I don't remember ever seeing rivets before either😊

[@AdelJeffreyJeffreysAuto]

That pink is synthetic media. The korean one is cellulose media.

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

The Korean filter is better.

[@shermangrant963]

Either or neither 😅. Good Video and Merry Christmas Sire 🫡

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thank You, and Merry Christmas🎄🎅

[@HAL9000-su1mz]

Would sure like to know the micron rating of each. The media holes are not all that confidence inspiring, to tell the truth.

[@billiebobbienorton2556]

Not Beck AND Arnley, Beck Arnley. Worked for them in the '70s . Back then they were a decent company to work for, in Melville Long Island. Mr. Arnowitz (or "Arnley") was a good guy, treated employees fairly and imported parts from reputable companies. Warehouse manager "Jon" was a strict prick but allowed workers some latitude for being cut-ups. Miss the warehouse guys....

[@weswest8666]

I bought eight AC delco spark plugs from rock auto, same part number but 3 were from China, 3 from Mexico and 2 from America. Different size packaging but same part.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks for Sharing! If it was me I'd send them back. Slight production differences could make your engine run like crap.

[@peskypeet]

​@@WhipCityWrencher 1000% With you on that one! REFUND!

[@Z7691-g1c]

What I suspected. Differences in the same filter depending on the country of origin Merry Christnas Pete. Thanks for a great year of testing.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thank You and Merry Christmas🎄🎅

[@daewooparts]

The Korean one looks like the typical DongWoo Mann & Hummel made filter,Beck Arnley buys parts from many OEM & aftermarket manufacturers & repackage them ,both filters are probably decent

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks, Mark👍

[@davidsacco4860]

Great video and interesting to see different construction for the same part number. From what I have seen in the past Beck Arnley is basically a private label company. I have bought several Beck Arnley oil filters for my 2015 Mazda 6. The base plate is identical to the Mazda filter but the rest of the filter is different, but decent and they are made in China. As another commenter stated the Japanese filter has VIC written on it which is a Eiken brand. I think Eiken also makes alloy wheels. At least I have seen their name on them. I would probably pick the South Korean one because the filter media looks better.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks for Sharing 👍

[@snoofayy6150]

You're probably thinking of Enkei wheels 👍

[@davidsacco4860]

@@snoofayy6150 Thank you, yes you are right. I got the spelling mixed up.)) Have a nice Christmas!!

[@joserosas5420]

very interesting

[@wicked1172]

Looks to me like you're getting a very good filter with either one of these.

[@anish-79]

Only reason I would use made in Japan Oil filter is because the Filter media is " PINK ". Made in Korea oil filter will do better filtering of Oil, that all depends if the owner is running on regular brand oils or Race Bred oils like Royal Purple and Red Line Oil.

[@Erdie5]

They're better than the OEM Fram Honda one, I guess. Be nice if Honda went with something a little further up Fram's product line than the orange can with an oval base gasket, but whatever.

[@daewooparts]

Subaru also uses a blue "orange can of death " FRAM too ,but sometimes you get lucky enough to get the unmarked Champ Labs ( blank AC Delco) blue

[@Funkydood]

Korean manufacturers have shifted into high gear, not just to compete with Japanese manufacturers, but to actually improve upon them!!! KIA and Hyundai are just two examples!

[@know916bound]

Literal dumpster fires.

[@prevost8686]

I would happily take with as opposed to the O.E. filter. The Framonda filter is the most overpriced Blue can of Death on the market.

[@daewooparts]

Subafram blue can of death, hold my beer 🍺

[@vermontvermont9292]

Yup, the moment I found out the honda a02 filter was just a mid level at best fram I stopped using them. Stopped at 35k, now at 84k .

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Id like to see you revisit AC Delco pf 46/48/61/63 after the last units you did. Then have the same Champ 1s to check.

[@SimpleTastyFood2024]

Hi Pete 🙂. Both filters look good to me, very good! Wishing you and your family a blessed and very Merry Christmas 🎄. God bless 🙏

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks Merri, Merry Christmas to you and your family as well. Merry Christmas🎄🎅

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

Awesome review

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@norcal715]

The Japanese language at 02:43 says "Number" Good job Pete.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks Steve😊

[@LTVoyager]

You absolutely can not judge the effectiveness of a filter from a visual inspection.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

I disagree. Thank You

[@LTVoyager]

@ Show us the filtration tests and how they compared to what you guessed from visual inspection.

[@philliplopez8745]

Welded pleat , ultrasonic.

[@rtsuh]

It’s hilarious that the Korean made filter has only Japanese writings while the Japanese made has more English than Japanese 😂

[@WhipCityWrencher]

😊👍

[@mopartony7953]

Beck Arnkey is not a manufacture. They have no specs besides interchange and part marking. So filter design for a given PN can vary a lot.

[@ΦίλιπποςΣβουρώνος]

The "VIC" trademark belongs to EIKEN Industries Co. Ltd.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks for Sharing👍

[@TassieLorenzo]

I think that BeckArnley VIC oil filter has the same original manufacturer as the Tokyo Roki filters made in Japan -- there are a lot of similarities! It's also very similar to the Nitto Kogyo oil filter. As to who are the resellers and who are the original manufacturers, be it Tokyo Roki or VIC or Nitto or somebody else again, it's a little hard to unpick!

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks for sharing! 👍

[@scottymoondogjakubin4766]

My Honda quad has a similar oil filter media and i believe its %97 efficient at 30 to 35 microns if im correct ! Im like most on this one there are better filters out there ! ☝️☝️

[@dash-four-]

Oh-oh, your shot at 4:48 shows a problem with the threads on the Korean filter. There is a big valley at the peak of each thread (at the minor diameter). This is what happens with rolled threads when they are not rolled properly and there is nobody inspecting it after the thread rolling operation, or else they have a sloppy spec and it meets their sloppy spec. The threads will hold, that's not the problem. The problem is that you are much more likely to cross-thread it when you are putting it on the car. I know this first hand because I had this problem for about 3 years with the Wix filter that I use on one of my cars, and it was a Made in USA filter. If you want to read about this, google "Why do screws tend to cross-thread in internal rolled threads more than internal cut threads?" and you will find an article called "Are Rolled Internal Threads as Good as Cut Threads?" Look at Q4 in the article. The valleys they show in their diagram are small, probably ok. The valleys in your black oil filter are too big. The Japanese filter on the right probably also has rolled threads but they look good from what I can see. BTW you got really good lighting inside the filter and good focus on the parts inside in the early part of the video before you took it apart. I appreciate that, it's not that easy.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thank You👍

[@donwyoming1936]

I'll buck the crowd here & go with the South Korean filter. I like that filter paper much better. I use the Beck/Arnley air filters in my Asian cars. If you want an air filter to filter every particle out, they're the way to go. Not a high flow filter if you want more horse power. They catch so much, I change them out every oil change.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks for Sharing😊

[@69in89]

Having used several Chinese, Japanese, or Taiwanese-made BA parts, I've never had a bad one or one fail early (water pump w/gasket lasted well over 7 years / 68K without failure or leak) but I've never had one that I felt secure and confident about like I would a Wix, Bosch, Denso, NGK, Aisin, KYB, Bilstein, etc., part. My grandfather owned and ran 3 foreign auto part stores in the 70's, 80's, and 90's in the Inland Empire region of California and during those years, BA was their primary part supplier. If you ordered a BA part back then, 90% chance you got a repackaged OEM price for a fraction of what the dealership had it for. Nowadays, there's no saying what you're gonna get. Economy grade? Standard grade? OEM? BA is auto part roulette!

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks for Sharing👍

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[@hansenriquerach-mendoza3515]

@WhipCityWrencher It's an option to click away either for like or dislike. Thanks.

[@TheTruth27536]

I would like to make a request if you don't mind. Adding the flute count and filter size measurement (for the oil filter cap wrench crowd).

[@brassmule]

That would definitely be handy for buying the right removal tools for them.

[@donwyoming1936]

I bought a whole set back in the day. If it doesn't fit, pound her on. Only way to get off those cheap filters sometimes.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

The videos are made in advance but I'll try and get them measurements on the next video I make. On filter size, do you want the width of the can?

[@TheTruth27536]

@@WhipCityWrencher The width of the top of the can where the flutes are (and the number of flutes). So, for instance a FL820s (old style) is 93mm wide and has 36 flutes. The new style is 93mm wide and has 15 flutes.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

@@TheTruth27536 Okay, Thanks!

[@Gary7even]

I don't think I'd use either one. There are better filter options out there.

[@John115Yonkers]

Good video Pete. Both look good to me. 😊

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks, John👍

[@Nozinbonsai]

Im heartbroken the japanese media was hole city, but maybe it was just a bad spot 😢

[@prevost8686]

Don’t be sad and don’t let fear grip your heart.

[@Nozinbonsai]

@prevost8686 nooooooo it can't be true 😭😭😭🤧

[@peskypeet]

I too though the Japanese part would surely have superior filter material.

[@lalajee143]

oil can flow faster for pre ignition so engines don’t starve for oil at that time. Most Toyota oem filters are the same.

[@daewooparts]

It's pretty in pink .💕...In the red light district 😉 you will probably get screwed & lathered in oil

[@jamescaron6465]

Great Job, Pete, thanks for sharing, Adam! Those Asian filters sure like the O ring style gaskets. Both are well made but I'd pick the Korean made filter based on the media quality but by a slim margin.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks Jim👍

[@jamescaron6465]

@@WhipCityWrencheranytime Pete!

[@daewooparts]

2:20 ,ironically that S Korean🇰🇷 filter directions & information is in Japanese 😉 & not Korean

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Hi Mark, Really, Wow, Thanks for Sharing👍

[@GrandPrix46]

Doing nothing more than looking inside the filter, I'd take the Japanese made one, especially at the same price. I'd probably pay $1 more for it if there was an option.

[@jeffkortsch8276]

It looks like BeckArnley buys their filters from anyone who can make them and doesn't even have their name on them. That said, if I was buying one, I'd hope to get the one made in Japan over the one made in South Korea.

[@lorenray9479]

Shared tech has benefits and drawbacks. Hmm

[@kchan333]

Beck Arnley doesn't make parts. They just repackage stuff. Sometimes you'll get an OEM part.

[@PetesCreativeRecycling]

I would chose the Japanese one over the Korean based solely on historical quality. Look at how long a Honda or Toyota lasts vs a Kia Hyundai. That being said, I wouldn't buy either of these filters because there are a lot better options out there. Long as Amsoil keeps making a 10micron filter, I'll keep buying that.

[@glenbenton4855]

That is a good way to look at it mate, and I kinda agree with that but you can't take the risk now a days

[@henrybauer296]

BeckArnley doesn’t make anything. They just rebox parts from other companies. Most other brands do this as well.

[@kevinhawley962]

over night PARTS FROM JAPAN !!!!

[@WillKlaver]

.. 🙋‍♂️🧰👨‍🔧

[@jordez1]

Rock Auto is getting shady, I quit ordering parts from them due to their inconsistency. They are selling a lot of low quality parts as well.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

That may be so, but I've always had good dealings with them. Thanks for Sharing👍

[@stevenbettez2017]

I’d pass on both personally

[@save16thave]

South Korea has come a long way with their manufacturing. Samsung phones are the best. The new Kia's and Hyundai's are sweet. I bought a new Tucson and it was built in Alabama by American workers, so South Korea is making an investment in the American workforce.

[@billiebobbienorton2556]

WHOA! Hyundai/Kia engines have had multiple engine issues (covering over 2.1 mil cars) AND vehicle theft issues (major class action lawsuit) for a couple of years. Look it up. They've been able to sell vehicles cheaply, and the quality has suffered big time because of it.

[@WhipCityWrencher]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@billiebobbienorton2556 There are some issues but some do swear by their KIA Hyundais! In KIA Hyundais strides of improvements, GM Korea (Daewoo) and Renault Korea (Samsung Motors, yes Samsung) have kind of been left behind. Everyone seems to forget about 4x4 and pickup manufacturer SsangYong too (styling is not their forte!).

[@save16thave]

@@billiebobbienorton2556 We all know that Hyundai has had it's problems. But the other manufacturers have, too. Honda engines have oil dilution problems. My last new car was a Mazda and it had so many electrical problems that I didn't want to buy another Japanese vehicle. I don't think the Japanese cars are as good as they were in the 80's and 90's. I've had too many "American" cars to list and most of them are built in Mexico. This time around I decided to try a built in the USA Korean car. Time will tell if I made a good decision. But I have nothing but respect for the Korean people and their manufacturing abilities. Not just with cars either, look at Samsung and LG.