I couldn't stop crying. Vocal ANALYSIS with isolated vocals of Lorna Shore's "Pain Remains" Trilogy

When was the last time you bawled your eyes out to music? For me, I definitely wouldn't have expected it to be at the hands of a Deathcore Ballad. Not only have the entirety of Lorna Shore created one of the most emotional trilogies I've ever heard, but Will Ramos's vocals are absolutely stunning, along with some insane production. This is a true work of art.
Also, I did a course with Will Ramos and Chris Liepe where you can learn how to create harsh vocal sounds yourself! Check it here: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/ulti...
Join professional opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff, as she listens to Lorna Shore performing "Pain Remains" parts 1, 2 and 3 for the first time.
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Get ready for an electrifying collaboration as professional opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff joins forces with the University of Utah Health and the VAST research lab for a groundbreaking study: "The Science Behind Vocal Distortion," featuring the powerhouse vocals of Will Ramos from Lorna Shore! • The Science Behind Voc...
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I definitely recommend watching the original videos without interruptions.
Pain Remains 1: • LORNA SHORE - Pain Rem...
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Elizabeth Zharoff is an international opera singer and voice coach, with 3 degrees in voice, opera, and music production. She's performed in 18 languages throughout major venues in Europe, America, and Asia. Currently based somewhere between Los Angeles and Tucson, Arizona, Elizabeth spends her days researching voice, singing, teaching, writing music, and recording TONS. She also plays Diablo and Dungeons & Dragons.
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[@TheCharismaticVoice]

I did a course with Will Ramos and Chris Liepe where you can learn how to create harsh vocal sounds yourself! Check it here: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/ultimate-extreme-will-ramos

[@bucke13]

Get you some whitechapel "orphan"

[@Slinky511nx7]

I love how they added the bonfire sound from the game "Dark Souls" at the end. 1:26:57

[@bballer2312]

I met Will in Denver on my birthday and told him I found him on your channel and he said you two have more stuff coming your friendship with him is beyond amazing!!

[@jasonschneckenberger2439]

Can confirm, it is a wonderful course and I can't recommend it enough!

[@Ljos_Midir]

@@Slinky511nx7 I THOUGHT THE SAME THING

[@Joshschroedermusic]

Elizabeth! As the band's producer, thank you for the wonderful in-depth analysis of the vocals and music. These guys really put everything they had into this record, and especially these 3 songs. Production, mixing, and mastering to me isn't purely a utilitarian process, but a creative one too. It should always serve the song, emotions, and the people expressing themselves, and not distract from it. It's easy to get carried away, because sometimes, getting carried away is exactly what the part needs. Let me share a little bit of my process for the Pain trilogy: Part I: for the intro, I took Adam's scratch keyboard writing session lead and built an intro around it. The obvious thing to do would be to build a bombastic orchestration, but I just loved how sad and small it sounded on that keyboard. It just perfectly captured what he was going through at the time. Not a big, triumphant moment, but a sad, lonely one in studio B, with a giant "LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE" sign on the door, trying to write his way out of severe depression. It was this exact keyboard performance that sold me on using this melody and building the trilogy around it. Part II: the intro from part I is then developed into the chorus here, and it being the theme of the trilogy, it was a no-brainer to have Will scream along with it, step for step, to really reinforce it as the main theme. The key change on the last chorus comes from their hometown hero - Bon Jovi. I just love it when bands take influence from atypical places. That mixture and cross-pollination is what's beautiful about new music. Part III: with the transition from part II to part III, I wanted to bring the piece down to a dark place, then build it back up into this epic, malicious, foreboding climax, where as you so eloquently put it, "deathcore becomes the ascension of that emotional tension". The intro needs to set the scene for the final chapter, so my idea for the string arrangement was to have this cyclical, ascending and descending motion to it, which reflects all the highs and lows you've experienced, but also foreshadows an ominous conclusion. By the time you hit the big band outro of this song, you either realize this big moment is from the intro of part I and the chorus of part II... or you don't, but either way, you can feel the familiarity of the melody reach its peak form after the dramatic pause to cause the listener to lean in and anticipate this moment. Will uses all 3 chorus lines here, to create a new one, and to tie the entire trilogy together. A great example of his brilliant writing style and attention to detail. Outro: I wanted to close out the trilogy, by bringing back Adam's original synth sound from the intro to drive home that you've returned to where you began, but now with delicate quartet strings and a soft choir setting up that return, to make it feel like you've crossed over through this journey. I really love how this is the only time you hear the melody truly resolve, which fades into the fire sounds. I love how you can appreciate all the beauty here, but also the filthy breakdowns, haha. It's really that extreme dichotomy that makes the band truly great. But yeah, I'm just super happy that you and your channel exists and points out all of the time and effort we, and other artists and producers and mixing engineers, all put into these productions. Music appreciation makes the world a better place, and you're at the forefront of this on youtube. It's incredibly validating as a producer to hear you passionately dissecting the music, performances, and production. I absolutely love the lack of edits and cuts, by the way. Keep doing exactly what you do

[@CumulusPillar]

What a cool perspective! Thanks for sharing.

[@Stroopwafels112]

Josh, great work. I'm not typically into deathcore but LS is just something else, and the production is an underrated part of that. Producers can be the unsung heroes of this kind of music, and doubly so for this trilogy. Thanks for sharing yoir perspective. This makes the songs even more meaningful to us listeners.

[@xlox14x58]

Said the same thing on your Reddit ama and I’ll say it again. FANTASTIC JOB JOSH

[@Tarantula7Tom]

You did an awesome job Josh, album of the year 👏

[@Krageesh]

And thus we are on the brink of a new era, where music and their makers start to be valued in a way again that has long thought to be gone

[@brodylowe644]

your friendship with Lorna Shore and Will is so wholesome. I love it.

[@Odensrider]

No wonder. he got a camera in his throat for her. That's always a sign for deep friendship 😅😎🤘

[@sebastiant.3792]

@@Odensrider weird sign of friendship but i take it xD

[@Werewolf914]

@Nordmann Odensrider I don't think I'd stick anything in my throat for a friend, I must just not be a good friend, but I don't like mouth stuff, like I love the Saw movies the gore doesn't bother me, but in the 4th one (I think it's 4 maybe 3) there's the trap where the guy has to pull a key out of a girls throat and I couldn't look that stuff just gets me.

[@Odensrider]

@@Werewolf914 yeah I mean it in the funny way😅but I know what you mean. For me I don't care about gore blood ect. But when something come near my eyes(or other persons) I totally blackout and get disgusted😅🙈🤮

[@jamesgonzales5285]

I wouldn't have given Lorna Shore a listen, if it weren't for you, thank you. I'm a fucking fan!!! And, I'm 53 years old!!!

[@tylunsherod]

When she said "I'm so happy he's alive, bandaging up." My heart sank a little for what she was about to experience

[@ToastiestWaffle]

Me as well

[@timtayntor9613]

1:01:04 yeah...

[@markholley7767]

"You're gonna have a bad time."

[@wthefourth]

"wanting to continue burning" - elizabeth "hmm yes, don't mind if i do" - that guy

[@DTMharlot]

It's adorable how naive she is to the fact that this is a death metal song... not many of these songs ends with the person coming out of the darkness and being happy... hahaha.

[@musicfan1585]

What's truly unfortunate is that most people won't be able to get past the screams and "noise" to get to the deeper meaning of these songs. Such an amazing trilogy, especially with the music videos. I think they add a lot to an already strong presentation.

[@crucifyrobinhood]

I didn't respect or deserve Depeche Mode until I had gotten over Ozzy, if ya feel me. Tastes mature slowly sometimes.

[@Sir_Waddles_III]

@@crucifyrobinhood Man, it took me so long to like bands I love today. This is straight facts. I used to hate Tool, Rush, Trivium, Judas Priest, and so many others for various reasons. Now they pop up on my Spotify daily.

[@guitarslinger16]

Exactly, most of the "popular" mainstream music could never come close to this its emotionless and Most of it has absolutely no meaning and is complete garbage. This is an absolute masterpeice.

[@amcc8188]

I agree.... If I could get a version without the vocals I think I'd love it. The odd thing is, I'm not opposed to when a vocalist screams to emphasize something especially in the apex of a song.... but I'd like to actually be able to understand the words without looking them up before hand - Would also like literally any clean vocals mixed in. Disturbed and Killswitch I think have good juxtapositions of harsh and clean vocals, but when a band just leans so hard into the harsh vocals they lose any emotional emphasis (to me) because it's not compared to anything else. Is this impressive - yes. Is the musical part gorgeous - absolutely Would I prefer a version with clean (or no) vocals - 100% - I could only make out about 15 words so it might as well have been in a different language to me.

[@darkjoa3]

​​@@amcc8188 to me, the harsh vocals truly symbolize the emotions conveyed better than clean vocals could. i think clean vocals could just as well convey the sadness and mourning... But The harsh vocal really bring the anger, the desperation and the helplessness. The inability to collect yourself to the front. Harsh vocals... And espescially will's really convey those feelings to me in this trilogy But then again... I am absolutely NOT a vocal expert. I could not sing a toneladder to save a life. I'm not a big fan of the deathcore genre in general, but i've grown into a huge lorna shore fan, partly because of those absolutely stunning vocals. Anyway... tastes can differ and your opinion on it yours, and equally valid. I just wanted to drop my 2 cents :)

[@MikeHermon]

Lost my little brother to suicide on Christmas day in 1996 its just as painfull today as it was in 96. In 2007 my daughter attempted to take her own life, I spent a week sleeping on the floor next to her bed in the hospital. Without even reading the lyrics you can hear the emotion, then I listened along with the lyrics and it gutted me. I feel these songs in my bones. 53 years old and crying like a baby while I listen to these 3 tracks. Please thank Will and Lorna Shore for an amazingly tragic and beautiful trilogy. Going to go call my daughter and grandkids now.

[@beautifuldreamer0811]

I cannot imagine the pure terror and heartbreak of having to go through that with your child. I hope she is in a much better place mentally now. ♡

[@MikeHermon]

@@beautifuldreamer0811 Thanks, She is doing amazing.

[@matdan6081]

Bless you man. Lost my best friend to suicide. I understand the pain and I've contemplated it myself all too often myself. This is beautiful yet tragic at the same time and you can tell this music is written through relatable experiences between the band. Keep strong brother. You sound like an absolute credit to your family.

[@Colin-ch6zh]

i have nothing to say but god (or whomever you believe in) bless you

[@spaessspectrum6174]

i'm sorry for your loss brother❤

[@quinstonchurchill8336]

"a world without you isn't meant for me" hits so hard

[@dustinyoung5829]

As much as I like part 3 the most (for me it's 3,1,2) this line is the hardest hitting line out of all 3.

[@jxcelynyt]

Felt that

[@Epicawes]

Instant tears.

[@SumterGrams]

the line after it hits harder to me "where do you go when I close my eyes"

[@MoldyStir-Fry]

It makes me cry every time

[@AlexGAlexG]

I honestly ADORE that we live in an age where someone like Elizabeth who comes from such a vastly different musical back ground, as far as genre is concerned. Is open minded and passionate enough about herself and music…. To be sat here on KZbin doing a reaction video to her friends Deathcore band music. Brings a tear to my eye. I fucking love music so so much ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@kade2271]

I would be so excited if you would collaborate with them on a song. Having true operatic vocals along with their music would be a truly magical blend.

[@ToastiestWaffle]

Commenting so she sees this

[@luz4433]

That would be awsome

[@mrnlp21]

Yeah ima definitely agree to this

[@UrbanistWaldeinsamkeit]

that would be DOPE

[@elix_]

Put in an whole orchestra as well!

[@DarkDoom1999]

The first one hit me and my girlfriend very hard when it came out, especially that bridge with 'Take what is left of my Life before you go'. Now my girlfriend (24) passed away nine days ago due to a Lung Embolism, and this Song hits harder than ever... I can hardly listen to the intro without crying like a baby. We actually listened to the entire Album when she drove our car for the last time in her entire Life, on friday when it finally dropped. Still didn't listen to it since then, means I never listened to it entirely cause I know that it will fuck me up completely... Rest in Peace my Love...

[@brunox7257]

Im really sorry about that :/

[@iamjdx]

Sorry for your loss. The story of you two, touches people when told and she’ll live on through you. Keep strong my brother

[@DarkDoom1999]

@@iamjdx thanks a lot for your kind words.

[@russell6167]

My heart goes out to you, brother. What a terrible tragedy.

[@DarkDoom1999]

@@russell6167 Thanks a lot, friend...

[@MaajkTarkir]

A year ago you sat here looking disgusted yet impressed during your reaction to Into the hellfire. Now we are here, weeping and admiring this amazing band.

[@Universumi99]

So true, and isn't that just wonderful? I'm so happy and amazed having witnessed Elizabeth's journey from cautiously trying Nightwish to this, crying to the beauty of a violent metalcore song. And I love it 😍

[@stormcorrosion176]

Shut up

[@jeremypreston5009]

Maybe kind of disgusted. Really more just confused and fascinated. And then she met will who is strangely wholesome himself and now they're all buddies and she's kind of a metalhead herself lol it's so adorable

[@nhogan84]

"I finally see a world without you wasn't meant for me" Excuse me I'll be over here lying in the fetal positions crying my eyes out now

[@spunkrok13]

Same

[@beano_burrito]

Within the expanse, I can finally see. A world without you isn’t meant for me.

[@Lidocain777]

That brings me in tears every single time. Wheteher I listen to it, think about it, or even try to sing it. It's overwhelming.

[@LacedwithLacey2424]

Do I sing? No. Do I watch these? Absolutely. Was I wondering why the heck she was crying? Yes. Could I understand the lyrics? No. Did I have to look up the lyrics? Yes. Did I realize why she was crying after? …. YES! Wow! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@LacedwithLacey2424]

@@JB-mh5xy 💗💗 back atcha. Thanks for the nice comment. 🫂🫂

[@bradengoldsberry]

@@JB-mh5xy yeah. I saw the video and heard the tone of the song and that alone almost made me cry lmao. On 2nd listen and beyond this song hits pretty hard

[@devinaschenbrenner2683]

Everyone always think this loud violent music is only about death carnage and devils music, when in reality it's just a bunch of sad bois screaming their feelings out through guitars, sounds vocals. A every part of metal sinks into and you can feel it in a way no other music really does.

[@sokras1998]

The pure emotion that part 1 gives you is enough to give you chills all over your body and make you tear up. Reading the lyrics makes it a magical experience.

[@djchubbs]

I love this. I love the friendship that Will and you have developed over the last year or so and your reaction to this is akin of a proud Mum.

[@TheCharismaticVoice]

That's so true!

[@ProngedStag]

"...a world without you isn't meant for me" is everything

[@ruKUSS_.117]

“Am I’m just a ghost just like you” is where I need a reminder I’m alright …

[@Baron_Von_Nachtfalke]

OMG Yes!

[@steelelearning]

I'm a pretty big guy 6ft plus 250 big beard tats and this trilogy has me ugly crying no matter how many times I've listened to it . Ive shown it to so many people who didn't expect to be hurt crying with me but this is lightning in a bottle . The guitar solos go into the depths of my soul .

[@jodiecoronado6180]

6" 4' my self bearded and have tats myself but that line A World Without You Isn't Meant For Me Has me ugly crying still

[@fredericchich144]

When Will screams "where do you go when i close my eyes" it just breaks my heart in a billion pieces, everytime i listen it. Pain remains is something really unique, its construction, the emotion, it is really powerful and reminds me classical requiem. In fact it is a requiem.

[@joshhale9355]

I’m amazed at how Lorna Shore has become her favorite band, it’s honestly adorable.

[@KCsFunHouse]

Yeah it is

[@juddgeshredd]

Will was the missing piece to Lorna Shore’s puzzle and now they’re all elevating each other and putting out their best work to date. In a genre where far too many bands blend together and sound very by the numbers I think that Lorna Shore are truly carving out their own spot at the top. This was an absolutely stellar video and deep dive into these masterpieces, thank you. 🤘🏻

[@aidxn3110]

After 12 years they've finally proven that they can do it at the top level of metal. They've already broken boundaries by playing at lollapalooza, who's to say they won't be headlining festivals anytime soon!

[@daIllestVillian]

That’s subjective, because I personally love the Tom days the best and CJ is know slouch either… Will is the missing piece for them to go mainstream. Mainstream will dumb down your music and change your whole sound. Hopefully that doesn’t happen to Lorna Shore. My one critique is for them to stop using the same pattern structure with every “Will” song…

[@ondrejlukas326]

@@daIllestVillian I mean totally not? They found their sound with Tom continued it with CJ and will just fits alot better to it that's all.

[@ThorsShadow]

@@daIllestVillian Have you listened to the new album? It couldn't be any more varied unless they were playing a different genre in each song. "Same pattern" my ass. I mean, the "Pain Remains" parts at the end are basically "Deathcore ballads". And no, it isn't mainstream. At all. Because no "mainstream music" person would ever listen to Will-era Lorna Shore, because it is too extreme and too "heavy". No idea what you're on about, mate. Have a nice day.

[@peytonsnead3114]

She needs a Rockopus to go with her Octopus.

[@jayb7775]

This is better than any 90 minute movie I've seen in the last 5 years. Or more.

[@ifoch1838]

puss in boots is really good though

[@JeffreyRitter-gr7zs]

Not since T2 Judgment Day. ❤

[@fromheartfeltplaces_4627]

So it turns out, the quickest way to cry over these songs even more, was in fact watch a hour and a half long analysis of them that allows you to hear all of the pain and psyche-breaking melodies + lyrics 5 times each... God, what an awesome set of songs.

[@Yence_Eli]

The first song has seriously helped me cry for real for the first time after my dad died... I finally could let go of all the stress my family caused me after that and just cry.

[@matttheman3923]

I’m happy the song was able to help and I send my deepest condolences about your father, I wish you peace and healing!

[@withlovefalseortrue9839]

@@matttheman3923 What he said ^ Thank you for sharing your story, it may help someone else who reads it as well. 💙

[@thereflextester]

Everyone grieves differently bro. These are very emotional songs and im glad you got you're release. RIP.

[@lumberjack0716]

Part 1 of this song and white light by the ghost inside get me really hard after my dad passed, so I feel you on this

[@LumanilTheMentor]

Same, just for my grandma who raised me. I just shut down after, and i cried like a bitch for hours after this.

[@jxstified7558]

It really means a lot when a professional can understand that screaming isnt just noise and should be enjoyed just like any other kind of singing and you showing it on your channel allows others to enjoy it as well!

[@Siberius-]

I've always heard heavy genres as pretty much just noise, and kind of still do (even though I know a lot more is behind it)... but then I heard Lorna Shore's stuff and I was instantly a huge fan of the genre. Hopefully I can find other bands in the genre that have a similar impact on me. I just don't know if they have the same abilities and qualities... which includes the whole band and the amazing production. Like these 3 songs with the music videos for example, is probably the best way to introduce someone to deathcore (wasn't my introduction to the band, but still). Music videos can really help to properly connect with the sounds, even if one doesn't know what is being said, the emotions are very clear. Also the video where they put a camera down his throat would be a really good initial introduction before hearing the trilogy, to gain some more of that curiosity and appreciation for the talent and skills.

[@youngtundra478]

@@Siberius- Shadow of Intent has some great storytelling as well as some beautiful musicianship. Ben Duerr is getting better with his pronunciation. Check out their latest album Elegy. My personal favorites are “From Ruin…We Rise” and “Blood In The Sands Of Time” Although you really can’t go wrong with their discography.

[@Siberius-]

@@youngtundra478 - Awesome, I'll check those out. I think the production is the biggest part for sure. Lorna Shore's whole band and production is really good, and they really know how to emphasise and showcase Will's amazing vocals in the best light, and then are able to fit it to really emotional story telling, which is crazy (not that I need the story telling, but it's cool). If you put Will in an average to good band with production that is average to good, then I would have likely not given a shit about listening to more of his voice, which would have sucked, but it is what it is. Or even if he was in an amazing band with amazing production, that doesn't mean they are going to be something that I enjoy listening to. I think a big part is how well they can work WITH Will's voice to elevate it, and also their ability to replicate and communicate human emotion so well. Also how they have a lot of interesting stuff going on, including with just the vocals, they're not afraid to have pauses and slow it down and use contrast to their benefit. A lot of bands will just blast a lot of sounds at the same time non-stop, and that's very fatiguing and boring for me. Like the more chaotic the better, but unrelentingly so. I think a lot of those bands have missed how deathcore can be beautiful and very emotional, and Lorna Shore certainly understands and demonstrated that. What other genre can really communicate maximum anger, genuine rage, suffering, to the extent that deathcore ideally can. There's so much more here than just the typical headbanging stuff (not that there shouldn't also be that, but it doesn't usually seem to be done very well in my view). I typed way too much! Can organising my thoughts. Maybe my view will change a bit as I listen to more stuff.

[@TheRoboticFerret]

@@Siberius- Fit for an Autopsy and Whitechapel both have recent releases that are excellent, lots of emotion and complexity to the sound

[@Siberius-]

@@TheRoboticFerret - Hell yea, I'll check those out too.

[@aaronmessick9143]

I love how they actually wrap up this trilogy at the end of the third song with the lyrics; "Dancing like flames After all that I've done I'll salt the Earth and dissappear in a sea of fire" It's so simple, yet completely genuis at the same time.

[@HickyZX22]

First metal song I’ve ever cried to. It was weird. I don’t cry like that. Lorna is too damn good. Will is definitely what they needed. Cj is a beast too but will is just unreal.

[@leachofsouls]

Angelmaker has some songs that get me . Particularly What i would give.

[@tim.noonan]

Will apparently gave CJ vocal lessons. Lorna Shore went from student to teacher.

[@thisismyrealname2860]

Were you able make out the lyrics or did you have to read them first?

[@HickyZX22]

@@thisismyrealname2860 I can very easily hear the lyrics without looking them up. Been listening to harsh vocals for over 20 years. It’s like learning an accent. That being said, some lyrics in metal songs aren’t meant to be clear. They’re used as a texture. Bands will replace whole words with just a pig squeal. No attempt of even saying the word. But will tends to articulate well.

[@thisismyrealname2860]

@@HickyZX22 yeah I grew up a metalhead from a young age but starting in the 80s so I was adapted to more easily coherent vocals, just a personal preference choice

[@Pygmyer]

17:17 Heartbreak Deathcore Also, 90 minutes, You're blessing us, thank You so much, Elizabeth!

[@josuediaz3123]

The final line of lyrics harken back to the first two parts, Dancing Like Flames and After All I've Done, I'll Dissapear. The circle becomes complete. What a masterpiece. "Dancing like flames After all that I've done I'll salt the earth and disappear in a sea of fire"

[@Theasaurus]

I didn't notice that until my third listen, but they also pulled in the first chorus orchestrations in the background during that bit

[@plazmamasta193]

@@Theasaurus I was hoping she would realize they did put the first chorus in that last part

[@yarenestrada8253]

I noticed this first listen around and was floored the way they incorporated both parts in the final part absolutely amazing

[@floutsideoutdoormore7392]

imagine how many people are crying too during watching this and everyone has another reason, all brought together by music, take care of yourself if you`re reading this

[@musirasta]

My dad is dead of cancer, and one of my joung sister have 2 cancer. This song touch my soul. I can't hold my emotions everywhere.

[@KCsFunHouse]

My favorite lines too, take care of yourself everyone ❤

[@samhorst9928]

I hope this comment will still reach you... it took me a long time to have the courage to watch this, as a survivor and recovered man. I didn't want to watch it alone so thanks for watching with me and dragging my attention to the music theories. thank you

[@Mr.Manta5988]

What do you mean by survivor?

[@robertking5618]

@@Mr.Manta5988 maybe he meant he had attempted to end his own life, but survived it and then got help?

[@professorcarl1508]

hope youre doing alright.

[@normcollison2659]

"Dancing like flames after all I've done, I'll salt the earth and disappear in a sea of Fire" what a Haunting verse to end this trilogy on. bringing the 3 subtitles of these segments together is really powerful.

[@Deekthagnome]

Elizabeth - "He's still alive! I saw eye movement!" Those of us that have already watched the whole video - "Yea... About that..."

[@kode-man23]

Hahaha, yeah that was an "oof" moment right there.

[@jebus456]

i kept thinking this too lol

[@kataramenoss12]

I came to the comments immidiately after I heard her say that searching for your comment

[@Left2Suffer]

Elizabeth..I really hope you're reminded often on how much you doing videos like these can help not only the band but the genre as a whole. You're literally a catalyst with the ability to open this type of music to other groups of people with different musical tastes. Please never stop doing this. You are great. Your content is great. This video is great. Keep up the great work ♥

[@austinspare6214]

I've went through a lot, and didn't realize how numb I was getting inside by bottling things up and pushing thru for years. That approach isn't sustainable, but once you go numb you just kind of coast in auto pilot and slowly start to want to leave rather than feel this dead inside anymore. I wasn't extremely far along on that journey, but still further than reasonable, and I wasn't in a good place in spirit. This beautiful song about loss and suicide is well done and very moving, as is your thoughtful analysis. However, your genuine sharing that you've been in a dark place, and most importantly your several direct pleas to the viewer to get help if they are somewhere that's losing hope, really touched a part of my soul that got bottled up along the way with my pain and suffering. When I saw an internet stranger that's a KZbinr visibly freeze and feel trapped several times at a portrayal of suicide done by another stranger that's an actor, it really, really got to me. I realized how much my loved ones would truly miss me, and how big of a waste that loss would be to even the least of my acquaintances. I ugly cried for the last half of your video, all while continuing to watch and really leaned into letting it all out and feeling again. I'm not saying you saved a life today, because that might be a bit over-the-top and missing the mark. What I will say is that you were a BIG part of an experience that helped open me up BEFORE it got into those "almost too late / too late" stages for me. From the bottom of my slowly feeling heart...Thank you. :')

[@wretchedSymphonyBR]

I know how what you mean, man. Growing up, I had some family problems that really destroyed me mentally in an age where I didn't know how to process all of these new, negative feelings. So the coping mechanism I learned at the time was to shut these emotions down and escape from reality. And in a way, it worked, I wasn't feeling the pain anymore, but that also made me unable to really emphasize with other people, which made it really hard to interact with other people and build meaningful connections, all of it in puberty as well where things where so chaotic. During those days I had a feel friends, but still aways felt kinda left out, since I felt we didn't connect as deeply as they did to each other. It was only much later in life that I looked back and noticed that the problem at the time was with no one but myself and my inability to express myself in order to create a real connection. Anyways, a feel years after that I was finally able to meet some other friends who were able to make me see these flaws and try and deal with these issues that I kept buried within, so now I can proudly say I'm becoming half a functioning human beign. So as a person, I can honestly say that I'm very happy for the self discovery you made with this video, and I also hope you were able to get more in touch with your feelings, nothing makes me happier nowadays than shedding a few tears after experiencing a work of art such as this trilogy

[@__belial__]

Amen brother

[@B2PSoppy]

Also can we talk about how amazing the actor in the music video is. He displays sorrow so well.

[@SGGaming1]

We have to take a moment to appreciate the actors on this video. Well done. It adds so much to the song.

[@benzion7640]

Music platforming a superb story

[@GnarlyCow]

"Lorna of the Rings" was the comment of the day for me :).

[@MosselG]

LOTR and Lorna Shore are both GREAT :).

[@dialsoap7610]

Not sure if she is just really focussed or if she is in love with Will as all of us. Not like a relationship way, but artist. The way she nods when the greatest parts come in.

[@tim.noonan]

You might be right in both ways; if I was Kirk I’d have my head on a swivel whenever Will comes to see them 😂

[@eatgluedrnkpaint]

Oh man I thought today wasn't going to get any better, and here this drops too?! I'm so stoked for the 3rd song. The first two have found a special place in my heart. You can hear the pain and sadness is everyone's instruments, and the lyrics are so heavy. Major props to these boys for creating beautiful art out of tragedy we all know, all too well.

[@birberking6999]

It’s actually the entire album out now!

[@thevolta89]

I just heard the new song and near the is such Amazing melody

[@Basit_nabi]

@@thevolta89 fr the third pain remains is my favourite one

[@TheCharismaticVoice]

This song is filled with so much emotion. I really have to hand it to Lorna Shore, they captured that essence perfectly.

[@digitalmouse3314]

Dude I'm vocal nerd heaven and have a competition coming up for metal vocals.

[@Andy_from_de]

Music (and crying to it) literally saved me in 2016 when my wife passed. The first two parts of Pain Remains are terrifyingly relatable to me as I have been through it all (minus the actual suicide in part 2). I was wrecked and taken back to those dark times after each of the first two parts. Wondering and at the same time fearing where the journey will go in part 3. Bracing for impact.

[@MelancholieT]

❤️

[@awg6397]

I just finished part 3, there is a TON of anger. Im sitting here at my desk at work dabbing my eyes

[@MasterIceyy]

Congratulations for still being here 6 years later, and keep walking, the journey isn't over yet

[@MasterIceyy]

I really like that they had the Pain Remains triology at the end, it let them have 7 songs of brutality and then have a lot of emotion included in the album

[@countbiscuit3274]

Dude, that's rough... Music will always be there for us to comfort us, relate to and sometimes just keep us from going insane. Music is not just art, it's an emotion. Big hug man 🍀💚

[@bradcase6121]

These 3 songs are the absolute masterpieces. I’m 36 and much doesn’t impact me anymore. But I cried my eyes out watching these. It took me back to the loss of my father. Just brilliant and such a gut kick.

[@maxadam6517]

Sorry for your loss man. I'm 31 at the time of writing this. I've just recently lost my grandma and watched my dad deal with the grief of losing a mother. I am yet to go through the inevitable and I just don't know how I will ever be able to deal with that. I am rather the same, it takes a lot to get me going, but these 3 songs captured the emotion and helped bring it forward. Brilliant work by the band and everyone involved. Best of luck to you pal

[@bradcase6121]

@@maxadam6517 thanks, I can tell you it’s been over 2 years and I’m still not over it. You never get over it or never gets easier. You just learn to live with it

[@GeeManZeFinn]

I feel that man, lost mine not more than 24 hours ago, the release was needed watching this video

[@bradcase6121]

@@GeeManZeFinn im sorry for your loss

[@GeeManZeFinn]

@@bradcase6121 thanks dude, one foot over another and ill be alright 🤜🤛

[@VinzBlitz]

I saw a video of a couple at a Lorna Shore show and in the verse "A world without you isn't meant for me..." he got on one knee and proposed. It was so beautiful, and just with the context of the song and the strong emotion it was so beautiful. Such a powerful trilogy. Loved how you covered this and of course, broke it down and analyzed it so wonderfully!

[@DTLSinger]

The fact that Lorna Shore has bridged a gap among a lot of music fans. Not to mention the imagery with these three songs. Watching people having such a strong, emotional reaction to them is amazing.

[@jasonpaganelli9259]

After hearing this track I immediately had to message the drummer Austin. Austin and I grew up together aince we were roughly 8 years old, all throughout grade school and played little league together. I couldn't be more proud of him. This song pulls every ounce of emotion to the surface for me. The entire trilogy is absolute perfect.

[@Axe_Slinger]

You know when a video helps magnify the story. Right after the analysis at 22:19 Elizabeth is smiling, enjoying the song and vocals just as they cut to the Hospital room scene. At 22:20 she shuts her eyes and her mouth shuts as she puts together this romantic video is turning tragic and at 22:21, just 2 seconds from smiling, enjoying it joyfully, the GRAVITY of the story has her fighting back tears already. GREAT Cinematography personified right there!

[@couragebuff5060]

My father committed suicide and then years later my best friend did the same. These three songs capture loss so well and I truly felt them as I read the lyrics. These songs are a masterpiece and have been so cathartic for me. Nearly 32 years of pain wrapped up into three songs with a brutal bow. Absolutely beautiful and thank you for showing Lorna Shore to me. You are amazing and I cried with you.

[@jcubed824]

So not only do we get the third video from the Pain Remains Trilogy but we also get a breakdown of Will's vocals? Best Friday in a long while!

[@withlovefalseortrue9839]

Couldn't agree with you more!!

[@TheCharismaticVoice]

Woooot!

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@TheCharismaticVoice this video beat the official video drop by a few hours! You were blessed with a pre-release viewing, Elizabeth? Nice! Guess that sort of thing happens when you've got a connection with the frontman!

[@zynosgd9982]

Lorna Shore sounds like Eldritch music. It's massive, grandiose, scary but ultimately, you can't help but to be in awe, forgetting yourself in the moment and basking in the grandeur of this monstrous sound.

[@demon-hp4wq]

That is so true !! Even people that don't like deathcore end up enjoying the experience because of the undeniable quality of this band's songs

[@dvaikael]

Very well put!

[@kayarnold3151]

@@demon-hp4wq I'm not usually a deathcore fan, but Lorna Shore pulls me in and leaves me wanting more every time.

[@nickleinapickleofficial]

The whispers into the harsh screams… That’s what loss and grievance truly feels like. It goes from acceptance of the situation to the raw anger that accompanies it or that inevitably follows. I felt that.

[@Mr.Manta5988]

I lost my father when I was around 12-14 years old. He comitted suicide by poisoning himself with Co2. The last time I saw him we were on the couch watching tv. I was cuddling with him and didn't know this would be the last time I would ever see, feel, hear him. I went to bed and woke up the next day with him already gone. I didn't think anything of it as he always left very early for work and just went on with my day. When it was around 5 pm and was waiting for him to come home. I always jumped into his arms when he came home. He and I had a very stron father-son relationship and it meant everything to me. But he didn't come. I thought maybe he was out drinking something with a few friends. The next day I woke up and he was still gone. I was starting to worry. Mom tried to reach out to him but no calls were picked up. It started to dawn on us that something terrible had happened. We contacted the police. On the third day the anguish was unbearable. I was panicking because I just didn't know what was going on. When the phone rang I was sitting at the pc playing games, trying to distract myself. The crying from my sister was enough to know what happened. I got to the living room already pale. And when mom told me he was gone my whole world shattered. It was like someone punched me out of reality into a deep void where everything around me was just a meaningless version of everything I hold dear. I broke out in tears. I cried. I screamed. I didn't want to accept it. My insides felt as if they were pulled inwards, consumed by a hole that my father left behind, sucking everything inside. This feeling of being both squished together and ripped apart at the same time by your own body is the worst thing I ever felt. The kick in the guts is something I can still feel today. And Lorna Shore managed to make me feel all of that again just with notes and voices. This level of musical mastery is something that I don't know if I want to experience again. The songs will forever hold a great place in my heart for how they make me remember my father though. The time after I learned of his death was probably even worse. I only felt empty inside. Nothing meant anything anymore. I didn't know how to continue, how to live on. I was ready to give up. It got so bad at one point that when no one was home I went the kitchen, took a knife and held it before my stomach. I was so close to just move my arms back and end it all. But I couldn't. I couldn't make my family go through the horror of losing a loved one through suicide again. I put the knife back and I ran out of the kitchen, horrorfied at what I almost did. It feels good being able to write this out. It gives me a feeling of closure...

[@nathansieg4467]

Wow....within mere lines of your story i was weeping. My biggest fear in life is to unexpectedly be gone from my children's lives. Sometimes I think about things from their perspective if that were to happen and it rips me apart. I cannot imagine the pain you and your family endured. I am so sorry. Music is so powerful and it's amazing how, seemingly recently, metal artists are making it ok to wear their hearts on their sleeves. I am glad you are finally getting closure

[@Mr.Manta5988]

@@nathansieg4467 Sorry, I didn't want to make you weep. I got acustomed to it and sometimes just forget that what I have been through is just the worst. I hope you've gathered yourself

[@nathansieg4467]

@@Mr.Manta5988 totally fine!! I’m ok with having emotional breakdowns every and again lol Guess it was almost cathartic in a way….I just couldn’t imagine what you went thru

[@Mr.Manta5988]

@@nathansieg4467 Think of it as someone ramming a knife through your heart over and over again from the inside. One of the worst things that carried into my current life was the phone. It still happens sometimes when I'm home that the phone rings and when I don't recognize the number I'm hesitent to pick up because I fear that someone else has died. It's like a fucking trauma. At least this doesn't always happen and has happened less and less over the years

[@dmphax]

My condolences. xoxo

[@CapnRiggs2k5]

Before I start to watch this, I wanna give a huge shout out to Adam of Lorna Shore. He basically wore his emotions on his sleeve for this album and the lyrics and instrumentals show it. Such an incredibly powerful trilogy of songs. Something that no person wishes to ever go through.

[@burningtheevidence8038]

Is there some recommendable interview available in which they talk about these tracks and their creation?

[@KfuknBenz]

@@burningtheevidence8038 Finn McKenty from his channel the Punk Rock MBA just interviewed Adam and they talked on the writing of this album for a solid part.

[@paddytutorials]

@@KfuknBenz thank you :)

[@burningtheevidence8038]

@@KfuknBenz I'm not a big fan of Finn McKenty but that interview was actually pretty solid. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@Worhan]

Deathcore that makes you cry. What a time to be alive! Jokes aside, what a great analysis of this amazing trilogy. Lorna Shore skyrocketed to be my favorite band

[@olgapisova6207]

I used to be a pianist before stuff happened. Later, for a couple of years, fronted for a garage rock band. Then I kind of buried my inner musician. When I found Lorna Shore's trilogy, it kicked in heavily and made me wonder - like a strong itch on my mind - how would it sound with my non-deathcore skillset? And also made me feel a weird mix of regret, anger and satisfaction. Yesterday, I tried to pick up the different rhythms and melodies and approximate them on piano. I was only half successful, but I immensely enjoyed the process. I'll continue. It's already turning out to be the best thing I could do against any kind of trauma. I already promised elsewhere, that if I make it work, I'll post the cover online. Now, I can safely say it's not an "if" but a "when". Huge thanks to Lorna Shore and everyone involved in the making of Pain Remains. I needed something brutal but complex and you guys delivered in all the wall-of-sound glory! Elizabeth, I love your openness. Thank you for the massive analysis. Seeing you geek out about vocal techniques always cheers me up, I'm not as experienced but I'm a bit of a vocal geek, too :)

[@jeltehoekstra2952]

5 months later, hows the progression?

[@olgapisova6207]

@@jeltehoekstra2952 totally stuck after figuring out the calmer parts, about 10% of that is due to lack of skill, the rest is mostly just bad time in life. Again. I haven't forgotten about the cover, but can't promise anytning. Will gladly write about any progress, though.

[@olgapisova6207]

@@jeltehoekstra2952 Also, tried to do fast staccato to keep at least some of the drums' feel, cannot keep up with LS at those speeds :D need other idea.

[@jeltehoekstra2952]

@@olgapisova6207 Awesome that you're still trying after 5 months! Good luck!

[@olgapisova6207]

@@jeltehoekstra2952 Thank you :)

[@lucrecia0005]

Whole trilogy in a nutshell: "I am crying at a deathcore song, I've never experienced this before" ♥ Honestly I never listened to harsh vocals but now I love listening to Lorna Shore, their incredible music, beautiful melodies and Will's voice! But this trilogy is something else, I feel like it's helping a lot of people dealing with their emotions ♥

[@jeremypreston5009]

They have transcended deathcore

[@BigBoy4004]

So true, THIS!!

[@420trippyhippie]

Welcome to deathcore friend. However this is a league on it own entirely. Lorna Shore have raised the bar so high

[@zackgeldhof1206]

This one hit me extra hard especially now. Just a few days ago my husband was hospitalized with both heart and kidney failure. The thought of losing him became so very real that I felt very lost and horrified to face my life without him. He is out of hospital at the moment, but there's so much that is still lingering. The threat is still there. Hug your loved-ones today. You really just never know when you'll lose them.

[@CantKillACowboyTX]

My heart goes out to you and your husband. Here's to y'all making it through this tough time and having many more years of joy together!

[@zackgeldhof1206]

@@CantKillACowboyTX Thank you. I hope you never have to go through this.

[@lordskysixss]

I wish he recovers and you both can get older together.

[@Universumi99]

❤️

[@briancady3271]

Omg im so sorry 😞 i lost my mom on my bday this February and this hit me hard best wishes to you both

[@_jaber1]

This trilogy, as absolutely epic and brilliant as it is… the acting and clip points throughout the video allows people who don’t have the ear necessary to understand the lyrics to feel the full emotional impact of these songs. The producers and actors don’t get enough credit. 👏👏👏

[@caseyalexander1705]

The mouthed “I love you”…. is so important, as it gives the emotion everyone can feel.

[@andybarber8898]

Also as a 2X suicide attempt survivor with severe combat PTSD, and someone who has lost so many friends and loved ones this trilogy hits all of these pains and is so cathartic, thank you for this and bringing me to them through your channel. And thanks to the both of you for using your platform to promote getting help.

[@ItsJustMe0585]

I've also attempted suicide over similar circumstances to this song. I had undiagnosed PTSD from that night, and the circumstances around it, that has been haunting me for 8 long years. I just thought I was going crazy, was too sensitive and touchy or maybe just a bitch. This trilogy somehow triggered me to get help. I'm so thankful that the pain Lorna Shore brought out woke me the hell up to get help I hope you are doing well. Best of luck on your journey to healing. You're not alone.

[@rolsen1304]

This is one of the aspects of metal you don't get until you experience it. It can be a vehicle of catharsis.

[@naturallyjosh]

Thanks for your service. The world is better with you in it, always.

[@DestructionGlitter]

I can't help but be touched by your raw emotional reaction to this. I suffer from a mood disorder and am thankfully medicated and stable, but I've struggled with s*icidal ideation and depression at several points in my life. I've seen the darkest of the dark and came out the other side. I see it in your eyes, I can tell where you've been and why this hits you so hard. Yes, it is possible to cry to a deathcore song (epic masterpiece). Any sort of art that carries meaning can spark our emotions, especially if the sentiment speaks to us. Your relationship with "extreme" music and harsh vocals opened a door for you to experience this range of emotion. I don't know you personally, but I am proud of you. And to everyone else who's struggled with s*icidal ideation and came out the other side: I see you, and I'm proud of you.

[@wjhrazorsedge76]

I haven't seen or spoken to my one brother for about 12 or 13 yrs. Mental health is still highly looked down upon in our society. I have never learned his official disorder, but when he would medicate for it, he was a very intelligent smart person. Meth & other stuff may have diluted his ability to stay on meds that normalized him. I'm not saying everyone needs to normalize, but when you cannot see the benefits of a loving family via a normalizing drug to allow that, it's very sad for all. I'm by no way saying prescription drugs can solve everything, but I can say not everyone is the same & it sucks losing a brother via mental illness for the last 14 years or so. My Mom has spoken to him sporadically, but it is always very depressing for her, so I never bring it up. Mental illness is real & affects everyone in a family.

[@WinkyDinkyDawg]

I lost my brother to suicide in 2006; and my father to brain, stomach and lung cancer in 2019. This song comes closer than any other to representing the sadness, rage, and frustration at being left behind, so to speak. I’ll see them again one day, hopefully, but in the meantime…this song has been a catharsis of sorts for me. Well done Lorna Shore!

[@TryptOut208]

Pain remains 1,2, and 3 were my top 3 songs of my Spotify wrapped. It’s such a beautiful song(s). It’s a shame more people don’t show more appreciation for Lorna shore. Will Ramos is an amazing writer and vocalist.

[@lindzee7410]

I cannot express the infinite respect for their musicianship, composition and overall raw fkn talent. I am seeing them live in two weeks...alone because nobody I know understands how incredible this music is...and I am beyond stoked. Much love to you!!

[@nomoresmorez]

I saw them alone too bc everyone was scared, but it was such an amazing experience

[@battplagg4472]

I feel you bro,got no one near me i would take to see them

[@beautyandthebeardedbeast]

Seeing them in Houston on Halloween. Not sure if I'm going to be alone this time or not. I'll have a damn good time either way though!

[@fredyhernandez1819]

@@beautyandthebeardedbeast I’ll be there with my wife and my 9 year old. He loves Lorna shore and he’s so excited to see them on Halloween.

[@kalebsmith4746]

I’ll be with you in spirit!

[@littlehellxo]

ive been listening to deathcore for about 17 years now and i don't think i've ever cried to a deathcore or even metalcore song of any kind, not until this triology by Lorna Shore. they really are a gem. thanks for this analysis it was a pleasure as always.

[@BananarchOfTedKacistan]

The only metalcore song that had me in tears was Firstborn by Silent Planet about a child passing before the parents, from the parent's point of view. But now Lorna Shore has made me cry to a Deathcore song for the first time.

[@kissingtheladder]

Everchanger by Invent Animate is the only album besides Pain Remains that has made me cry.

[@KrisMIW91]

August Burns Red had me cry before a few songs lol

[@KyleGaddy85]

"I couldn't think anymore, all I could do was feel" - I think you captured the absolute essence of part 1.

[@ddeezyd]

1. This trilogy has my entire heart and soul. 2. I absolutely adore this friendship and we need more content with you and Will!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@mattijohansen3471]

They glide so well together while being very different. The first one ending on. " Am I just a ghost just like you, caught between the Seams of two intertwining melodies? " Leading into the second song, where hope is gone, and he might be alive, but living like a ghost, the second song is the time between melodies. So the ending of the first song leads to the expressions of the second. And then to the 3 where it about getting past the empty space between melodies. Where he is no longer a ghost just acting, but the emotions he is feeling is acting through him. Pain, anger, everything. The attempt in the second part was the uncontrolled action, the lack of everything. While the choice in the 3 was made with and understanding what he felt his life had become. Ending the trilogy with the words " Dancing like flames, after all that I've done I'll salt the earth and disappear in a sea of fire " Dancing like Flames being part 1 All that I've done being part 2 In a Sea of fire being part 3 And the 3 also bind the first part into it again, after the half part of the song, with the sort of breakdown, the melody and flow goes through some of the same waves we heard in the first song- ending with the bells and string actually playing through the same notes, but it start before that leading up to it. So both the story and the music is brought back together at the end. Same way life starts and end the same place, in all forms. no matter the start or the end. You never know where you start. And when you are at the end, it does not really matter. It was the choices and feelings between the melodies you experiences along the way that guided you to what ever end you had. The two things in life that does not matter to you, is the start, and the ending. because you are not there to deal with them or experience them. Yet it is those two things that mean the most when all is said and done. Because what ever you did with your life, those you loved, and those you hurt is all because your life started. And your actions in between the melodies is what you will be remembered for.

[@lesalterman]

Maaaan! Thank you for this comment!

[@jeremykruszka5412]

Hoooooolyyyyyyyy 😱 thank you

[@tannerravsten7189]

Love the analysis of this amazing trio of songs! Brings me to tears every time. A Lorna Shore concert with a full backing orchestra and choir would be absolutely amazing!

[@matttheman3923]

I NEED this to be a thing that happens, I would literally cry at that show

[@schaeferlawncarepropertyma4898]

If dimmu borgir or Devin can pretty much do it, LS can.

[@rubensscotta]

I think they will make it someday...

[@adamsnyder7359]

At Royal Albert Hall

[@Beco96]

with Elizabeth as the opera vocalist

[@Falany]

Especially part I hits me like a fucking truck every single time. I hadn't watched the videos yet because I just couldn't, I didn't know if I could take it. I'm very happy I got to watch them 'together' with you, in a sense, that really helped a lot. Thank you so much for your heartfelt comments and knowledgeable insights, next to loving learning about techniques and systems and how everything works together, seeing you get emotional and talk about how you have gone through the same struggle as a lot of us really really helped. Thank you, truly. I hope you had someone you could give a big hug to and sit down with a cup of tea with afterwards to help make you feel better after such an emotional roller coaster. To anyone reading this: You are loved. You are wanted. And you are welcomed. And you absolutely, unconditionally, deserve to exist. I love you. Go get any and all help you can get yourself to accept in this moment, I believe in you.

[@noosense]

We must preserve will at all costs he is a national treasure

[@AdamGaffney96]

Honestly I felt the emotions throughout Pt. 1, 2 and 3 when listening, but watching you cry at the parts that almost got me made me cry. I think that Deathcore has always had the potential to have this sort of ballad structure where they essentially analyse what it's like to grieve, and never quite reaching acceptance. For me this song is the 5 stages of grief except you never reach 5, you're stuck at 3 or 4 (anger or depression). Just the feeling where the something tragic has happened and the world has left you behind and continued on but you can't accept it yet. This is truly an absolute masterpiece and I can't stop listening to it. I'm very lucky to have never experienced what the video talks about, but we all have that pain that can sometimes stick and can empathise with this.

[@H3artNSoul]

That’s how I felt aswellwith this. The different elements they show in both music production and physical makes this an absolute perfect representation of real human emotion. I’m blown away by their ability to tell a story with music. I only found Lorna Shore because of Elizabeth. Never listen to deathcore either and somehow…I fell in love with Lorna Shore. I saw an interview with Will Ramos and about what to expect with Pain Remains and he said “I just want to tell a story. I didn’t read a lot of books growing up and still don’t but I love to write stories.” Well it’s quite obvious he wrote a story. Absolutely beautiful band and music ❤️

[@thekursedone760]

Well said 😶👍

[@surfdeprived]

Who thought Elizabeth would eventually be crying to a Lorna Shore song when she first heard "To The Hellfire".

[@Goatzilla267]

This trilogy is a masterpiece. Whoever wrote this has experienced a great loss. It's heart wrenching to watch.

[@MrSob215]

Elizabeth, please, you HAVE to hear Alex Terrible's cover of part 1, it's absolutely amazing and a great display of his growth recently as a vocalist. Please

[@stiggyla]

I dont really have anyone that I can share this with so im just gonna thank you for showing your emotions with tihs video, these songs have had me sobbing since they have been out, my dad commited suicide a couple years ago and music is my therapy ive tried to share it but people dont seem to get it, this channel keeps me coming back with how intune you are with music. anyway thanks from nz

[@jebus456]

you're not alone, I totally get it!

[@opliko]

There are dozens of us, dozens! Hope you're doing okay

[@benjaminchristianhay]

We all love you. Geographically we might be distant, but channels like these keep us close and let us share the things we love. It's so nice to have everything we get out of this music be so thoroughly and clearly articulated by a third party when most of the time we're surrounded by people parroting some variation of 'how can you listen to that noise!?'.

[@shirazzza]

I'm so sorry for your loss, I'm sobbing as well. There are people who get it, believe me. Many people just don't want to say that they do because it's hard to go to those places. Music is my therapy as well to a huge degree & I think sometimes we do need to cry it out, more than we can even expect sometimes. Sending strength over from Oz

[@Mimarre]

I’m not going through your situation, but I understand some of the anguish you must feel. Nothing really captures it like this music does

[@SpaghettiWithMeatSauce]

That intro synth to Dancing Like Flames is an absolute gut wrencher. Gets me choke up every time before the song even starts lol

[@nicolasharrison3776]

For me, this song is the PERFECT example of experiencing the 9 stages of grief. The lyrics and delivery sum up so many feelings I’ve felt dealing with family dying, with friends losing their battle with PTSD. I will always cherish this trilogy as the epitome of perfect music.

[@Mori5446YT]

The fact that Will writes this, then is just the goofiest goof ball you've ever seen in your life is so wholesome!

[@LastPancake]

ive never been so invested in characters in a music video before in my life its actually ridiculous what the guys achieved with these 3 songs/videos. also, props to the woman playing the nurse in the first video, that look she gives the guy when she knows its wrong to let him stay longer but that theres nothing she can do for him is heart breaking

[@bmachadobrandao]

Not to take away any of their credits here, but talking about characters, take a look on the work of Defeater, all their albums evolves around one main story of a family, it is almost a audio book, it's incredible as well. Just listen from oldest to newest, and grab the lyrics online to help through the journey. Enjoy!

[@metalhead82891]

The “I love you” part breaks me every single time. As well as “a world without you.” My wife is everything to me. I can’t imagine spending a single second without her. Not only do I feel like this song is definitely about loss, but I feel like it can be about the fear of loss too. I’ve never had extreme metal break me like this before.

[@ddavis2354]

1:01:10 when you talk about how you’re relieved he’s bandaged and alive, my face scrunched since I’ve seen the video before 😂 love your analysis and insight though, you make my favorite band that much better ❤

[@Fuwret]

Me too everytime she said ''I hope he's still alive'' I was like Welp you didn't see the end of the video yet lol

[@lespaul36]

Did not expect this reaction. Deathcore is not easy for most people. This song I was in to the music and no idea of lyrics for a while and then a few hit me and I asked my daughter and she told me what the song was about. Beautiful song.

[@beautifuldreamer0811]

I listened to part 3 on my lunch break yesterday and idc who saw me in my car ugly crying. This goes beyond music. This is an exposé of the most difficult of human emotions to navigate. I have been grieving someone I lost, though not in death, and the rage that I now feel, after agony and that cold nothingness...this is it. They just put it all out there, in the most incredible way. Will said he loves to tell stories; he is indeed a master storyteller. I love watching your analysis. Your respect and reverence is beautiful.

[@RaixCore]

It's so absolutely insane to me that while this trilogy has the ability to make me cry all by itself, I can still watch analysis and review videos on it and they'll still make me cry as if I've never seen or heard them in my life. It's THAT powerful. And you were able to articulate every little piece so perfectly on exactly WHY. That's amazing to me.

[@neonknight5958]

It’s amazing how Will was able to covey grief in his lyrics and vocals. The disbelief, the anger, wanting to die because you feel that you can’t live without the person you lost, and feel numb on the inside. When my wife passed away this is exactly how I felt. I love these songs but I’m reduced to a teary eyed sobbing mess every time I listen to them.

[@wessutton8113]

I’m so glad that there are other people who can understand the raw emotion that one feels from music. Very rarely do people understand me when I say that a piece of music can bring me to tears, whether complete bands or instrumental works. ❤

[@chrisdeangelis4616]

When that original melody comes back in at the end, I just lost it… 😭😭😭

[@destructospin90]

I was wondering when you were going to do the reactions to Pain Remains and then you just do all three at once. Damn that takes some dedication

[@jessebergdahl445]

I think it would be so cool Elizabeth if you did a cover of this trilogy in your style of music and voice and convey this story of pain. I would definitely watch and listen to that!! Maybe you could even feature will as a guest vocalist.

[@mjvdg4194]

Kamelot’s ‘Poetry for the Poisoned’ trilogy is an amazing display of Roy Khan’s vocal prowess (and Simone Simons is featured!!)

[@pippafinland]

I have been listening to heavy metal, death metal and death core for all my life. I think metal people are the kindest and most gentle people in the world. I remember Elizabeth thinking at some point that metal singers just portray aggression. Well, well, well. We have come a long way to call something a death core love song, haven't we? 😅 When we lost our mom to cancer in 2009 I wish there'd been a Will R or a Lorna S to scream out all the pain, confusion, sadness and despare. I wish it would be allowed to play this trilogy at a funeral. This just portrays all the feelings you don't want to feel, but you do. Thanks, Lorna Shore and Elizabeth.

[@redfoxcorky2029]

Don’t know if anyone mentioned this already, but I love how Part I started with rain sounds then Part III ended with fire sounds. Such a impactful contrast in itself, and of course the lyrics and music throughout the trilogy, it just is packed to the brim with emotion.

[@KatieKatgurl]

never would i ever think id enjoy watching reviews of music as much as i do watching your videos. normally it drives me up the wall when people repeatedly pause music but your reactions (especially excitement and giddiness) make it so enjoyable. theres so much more to metal (and music in general) that people dont see or hear and your take on it is amazingly fun. thank you.

[@wesleytrott6397]

I watched part 1 a month ago and to my surprise, I was also holding back tears. Then the guitar solo came in and I couldn't hold back the years anymore. I'm 43 years old and not ashamed to admit Lorna Shore made me cry. A testament to their musical abilities.

[@darjanator]

I kept checking back to the channel if I missed it, but this makes sense. You wanted to save yourself for the entire suite at the end. Totally worth it.

[@Blackvan715]

She knows Will is going to watch this and value her opinion.

[@tylerneros1560]

The control he has is really something. Will’s timing with the peeps of annunciation between the spooky inaudible sounds is just perfect.

[@TheFlagnard2]

As someone who's former depression exhibited itself in the form of anger, the third song hits hard. It reminds me of who I used to be and the mental state I once was in. Catharsis is definitely part of it. The third song captured the visceral fury of my depression so well I couldn't help but weep. Partially from joy of having lived through it and come out a better person, but also out of fear for remembering it, and the relief that worse things didn't come from it.

[@dinokozidis3855]

♥️

[@janjg489]

The chill part after the Breakdown in part 3... I listened to this song a lot but I cry every time when the violin kicks in.

[@davelowman3574]

Listening to this in a car with planar magnetic tweeters, crossed at 5khz, coaxials with soft domes and a decent subwoofer. Oh my God, besides the band being unreal the production makes mp3 sound good. This is a new genre and they are the pioneers. Will is a once in a lifetime talent. And some of the best guitar and drums ever written.

[@TheGoobingGoose]

My(13) uncle(my dads older brother) committed suicide on the morning of halloween 2023. Holy shit that just all got to me! Remembering comforting my dad while he was crying, saying “i just can’t understand that I wont ever hear his voice again” and also coming back from school where we visited the cemetery and then coming home to my dad crying and mom telling me he died. But i can’t explain how proud I am of my dad! He hasn’t been able to even talk about bon jovi or hear it without breaking down, but yesterday in the car he put on one of their albums, and while holding back tears and smiling he was telling me about how his brother and him had listened to that album on repeat together when he was little. I really don’t enjoy the music but seeing my dad so happy and nostalgic about his brother made me un believably happy:)❤ i love you dad Rest in peace uncle, we will never forget you❤

[@preeceylad]

"I'm also routing for this person so much to make it through" She didn't know just how wrong she was and it broke me 😭

[@yarenestrada8253]

Ohh man it was hard for me to watch because I knew what was going to happen. Her hope made this more wrenching