I DELETED The TAC Vane Video...Here's WHY

I DELETED The TAC Vane Video...
Today we are discussing arrows, vanes and broadheads with Levi Morgan, Josh Jones and engineer Rick Forest. We took down a reaction video that we published last week that raised some eyebrows. Some of the information was wrong and we made some assumptions...
So, we got everyone together to discuss the TACs production and testing protocols. This was a fun conversation and we hope you learn with us! #elkshape #abt ‪@tacvanes‬ ‪@ManimlMindset‬
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[@drewolm]

Might be hard to watch this. Seems, at face value a couple minutes in, there’s a lot whining on one side and walking back on the other. Fact is, TAC vanes are hard to get to stay on a arrow. Everybody knows it. All the primer this, adhesion that, it’s stupid. Somebody from TAC once proudly posted they had 13 pages of FAQ’s regarding their vanes sticking to an arrow on their website. 13 pages?! My response was and is if you need 13 PAGES to explain gluing a vane to a arrow shaft, the vane is the problem. Hope there isn’t some kiss and make up sponsorship after this. Archery is now just like the rest of the world. Whine and everybody will tap dance for you. Bows with 90% let off for all the weenies, social media influencers all over the place… what’s next?

[@randyringler6847]

Industry needs more videos like this. Thanks for this! Good on all of you for working it out in a civil way and then committing to working together on some projects. This is how we all learn and grow together. Great work men.

[@stevejohnson18]

A lot of people run from conflict, takes some big people to face it head on. Thanks a ton for putting this video out. Some great people coming together so it's a win for everyone!

[@tylerweeding5610]

Love when Dan runs into conflict, puts himself aside and does his best to make things right. Good on everyone for coming together.

[@stefanc2242]

This is awesome, thanks for this video. I understand the skepticism in the TAC video and it's great you sat down with them and went over things. This shows such integrity on both sides and now I'm super excited for some future vids with them, especially since I have Shwackers in quiver as we speak!

[@dwightlawrence3125]

I’m so impressed with the class act you’ve modelled. It takes guts to be humble and apologize. Well done!!!

[@jackbuendgen389]

I had a feeling your vid would get taken down. But I'm really glad you guys were able to connect. I've had so so luck with TAC vanes

[@papaschuette]

Good on the 4 of you for coming together to properly get the correct information out to all of us that are interested in improving. I have used Swhacker #207's and the #202 broadheads in the past and getting pass through shots on whitetails. Same thing when I shot Levi's 100gr and 125gr version. No issues other than not having 100% complete confidence like Rick does. There's a chance that 1 or maybe both blades don't deploy correctly. Not likely to happen, but it is possible. A fixed blade takes that variable out of the equation. So, I'm currently back shooting the 125gr Stinger Buzzcut 4 blade. Until I can afford some Iron Will single bevel's. I think pairing some 125gr Iron Will's with some Victory RIP Elite 300's would be a sweet setup.

[@smalls207]

Levi, didn't like you calling out their BS. I think your video was accurate. DCA was still under represented. Instead, Marekting said, " spin the message and smooth this over". Or a marketing ploy to create a storyline and create more discussion about everyone's products.

[@luisvillalba9409]

Great content, didn’t get to watch the TAC video but I get an idea on what it was about. It’s just amazing how everything needs to be perfect come into place. Personally I haven’t been able to build the right arrows with Tac vanes, but like every product out there just because I couldn’t make them work for me doesn’t mean they don’t perform well for others. That’s the beauty about archery keep tinkering… 🙌🏼

[@EthanPageHunter]

This was exactly how to handle something like this. Well done boys!

[@SWMissouriOutdoors]

Great way to clear the air and make things right, good solid conversation and back and forth explanations. All 4 of you are standup guys!! Not an elk, but whitetail I shot this year had an entrance hole about 3" across and exit over 2" with full pass through. 25 yards from a treestand 15 feet up with slight quarter away. It went 40 yards and Ray Charles could track it.

[@davidarrieta3995]

Levi is NOTHING but a cry baby, he always was.

[@jaredanderson6121]

I’m glad to see yal come together and talk about this and I would like to see all 4 of come together and do testing and I’d like to see yal add a few guys like ranch fairy and the hunting public guys so they can put the input from broadheads on the heavier FOC with the same vane configurations to see if any of that makes a difference in groups and drops

[@jordanhudson5075]

Rick seems like he’s not a happy person at all

[@DanielMcleod-z1q]

I'm not gonna say what he looks like . But to keep it as clean as I can. He's not happy about being called out period. Even in their testing video he tried to build stuff up bigger and better , and Levi at least kept it on a level. Me personally, don't think the broadhead is all that, and if you don't get a complete pass through , it will cause tracking issues as mfjj stated. As far as the group testing at 100 yards, blazer was clearly the tighter group, but Rick just kept on talking about how tighter the Tac vane was. Not the case from the pics I saw. But all this is pointless and irrelevant anyway. Who hunts at a 100 yards. I haven't found a vane or a broadhead that wouldn't get the job done for the average whitetail distance of what?, 20, 30 yards. I know the Tac 3.75 is the worst vane I've ever had on an indoor arrow. Even with primer pin and glue, some didn't stick well, and even with them in my quiver , after a couple weeks, the vanes, rippled, bent, and rolled and just looked like crap. I cut them off and went back to the 4" AAE . The vanes or broadheads are clearly just not as superior to everything like they were made out to be. He can sit there blowed up if he likes. But that's just my opinion

[@progradepainting3755]

@@DanielMcleod-z1q”who hunts at a 100 yards?” Come on out to Arizona dude, and you will quickly find 80 yard shots at deer all the time. At 20-30 yards, who needs vanes at all? Lol, I bare shaft tune out to 50 yards.

[@ny-co3039]

Engineers...

[@macbarb12]

I can’t wait to see you guys test the beastbroadheads!

[@ericgrant8783]

I’m glad you’re getting this all squared away. However, I love Tac Vanes. I shoot the 275s with the 4 mm match grade axis however, I mark my arrows with the dynamic spine so all of them come out of the bow exactly the same I can hit the same hole and I give a lot of credit to the Tac Vanes. I’m also running the titanium 50 grain inserts with match grade field points. There is a reason they have a five spot target and this is it. And this has solved the millimeter issue for me. I practice out the 110 but I don’t kill anything past 60.

[@bloodlines9610]

This was pretty cool. Instead of one sided back and forth bickering you sat down and talked it out. I enjoyed this. I shot TAC vanes for years but recently i couldn't get them to stick. I tried everything. I switched to DCAs because they're quiet and fly great. But ill always enjoy TAC vanes

[@WildTines]

This all sounds like a civil trial lmao 😂 I guess making opinionated content isn’t what people can do anymore, then again that’s what we get when sponsors, and having friends in the industry can do.

[@gabrielhouston5660]

Just when I thought I couldn’t like you guys more. You all are solid for making this happen! Great Job!

[@mikemarion4799]

Interesting discussion. I too would like to see the Sevr 1.5 and 1.75 in your test with Levi. Plus, I'm curious how a 4 vane using TAC 2.75 would compare. This is what I'm running, and comparing it to the 4 vane TAC 2.25 and 3 vane TAC 2.75 might be interesting.

[@RobertWilliams82-22]

The fact that you and MFJJ backed down from your original thoughts made yall loose a lot of credibility…. Yall had legit arguments in the original video…

[@RKeaton]

This is a great outcome. Nicely navigated!

[@tfrost33elkhunter]

I think when you stick your neck out there and provide content at such a high quality level as yourselves! All 4 of you fine gentleman! That, when doing so, you will eventually make mistakes for better or for worse. It is those that recognize it and address it, that separates the men from the boys. You guys did just that in this video! I have nothing but the upmost respect and hold you all in very high regard! THIS is being a man! Bravo!!!

[@ApexPredatorOutdoors]

Still sticking with my Easy Vanes - custom made for the arrows and they are 20-25 grains total for a 4 fletch with a wrap. Attaches with one drop of glue too.

[@DB.KOOPER]

I run the TAC 2.75 Drivers on Sirius Orion arrows with Iron Will and Sirius single-bevel fixed blade broadheads. Total weight 465-525gr depending on what I'm doing and shooting a V3X 33 @28.5" and 78# DW... hands down the best vanes and arrows I've EVER used. I hunt in OR/WA/ID/WY and where I've broken a lot of arrows over the years I have yet to break a Sirius arrow or have a single component break/come loose.

[@cruebeedoobie]

Dude, I wish you hadn't bent to the whims of Levi Morgan. You are all about united archery not divided. Levi is not. He has proven that time and time again. If he doesn't agree with you, you are blocked, regardless of how respectful you might be. You reviewed the video they launched with a critical lens, and regardless of mistakes being made for inaccuracies or whatever, bottom line is, this guy didn't agree with you, and muscled you into changing your opinions, and bending to his whims. I mean, good for you, which is why I'll never stop following ElkShape, because, you are making things "right" in your eyes. But I can't get behind anything Levi does anymore. I disagreed with that guy one time. Did so respectfully, and he completely blocked me, despite my reaching out to make my own form of apology, because I saw another one of your united not divided videos, and I felt bad I had maybe burnt a bridge. However, I didn't do anything wrong, or disrespectful, and despite that, I tried to appeal to him and argue united and not divided. I was ignored. Then I saw this.. their video is biased no matter how you spin their testing. Period. They shouldn't have edited the video the way they did if they didn't want these claims to be made in the first place. You shouldn't have to defend a truthful video. You said yourself. You rarely take down content or edit content after the fact. Because even if you mess up, you just correct it and apologize. You don't bully someone else into changing their content because they disagree with you. This is an example of someone in the industry just throwing the weight of their name around. Again, no less respect for you or what ElkShape does, but I'm disappointed that a guy like Levi Morgan has enough clout to make you feel you needed to change anything. I don't think you did anything wrong in the last video. You should be able to have a differing opinion from other people without it being a huge deal.

[@alexjones519]

I don’t claim to be an expert but my TAC vanes experience so far was they flew great but they would NOT stick to anything I tried with any glue I tried.

[@brockpeck7073]

Acetone whip down the shaft. Then use tacs primer pen and glue. They will stick

[@adamvoorhees6028]

9/10 time it’s due to improper jig setup.

[@longshotdiedtired1582]

MFJJ is always bashing products glad to see him finally called out

[@illest-nl2xj]

Ain’t that the same as throwing a friend under tha bus especially a friend that’s trying to sell something,kinda like cockblocking!!

[@Longxdog]

Too bad he couldn’t engineer some better WiFi, my god.

[@davidemerson1233]

Been using Swhacker for many years and done great with deer. I just recently switched to SEVR, but I have both in quiver now. I had a bad shot w an elk last yr where it hit shoulder and dangled down the leg. Didn’t really get to see my setup work. 60lb Solution, 430 Gn standard shaft. Last two videos that popped up on my feed is about LRP.

[@jonathansnyder8686]

Im sure you had good reason to take the video down (legal issues?), but imo this is a problem within the hunting/archery community. On one hand its good to see people coming together instead of tearing each other down. We all want to see that. On the other hand it speaks to the issue of everyone knowing each other and not being able to criticize without backlash, regardless of accuracy. Burning bridges ruins reputations and opportunities with manufacturers. From the outsiders perspective this boils down to getting in good with the typical 'good ole boys club' or risk getting dragged through the coals for speaking out (see RanchFairy). In the future I'm sure we'll see something like this come out before more of the first video, which is good, but its a little disheartening to see you can't call BS without getting some form of retribution from it.

[@papajohnsy6659]

Rick definitely seemed happy to be there.. Maybe that's just how he is This felt very forced, I'm wondering like others if there was a threat of legal action. Maybe there wasn't I love guys like John Lusk and Aron Snyder, 0 or very minimal brand affiliation, just a desire to test things for the sake of testing. It doesn't leave the maybes

[@longshotdiedtired1582]

I cannot wait to see John test the swacker LRP , I already know how it’s going to go but still like to see it

[@austinhall5933]

​@@longshotdiedtired1582 why would lusk test it? It's the same swacker, screwed on different. He has a ton of swacker tests already.

[@hammerrough4204]

Educational first atta boy! Everyone has their own spin to anything you do brother!

[@adamyoder1]

Stand up act boys. Makes me respect y’all more

[@snapcrack55]

How about a link to the videos you mentioned in this video??????

[@sawyertward2655]

One hell of a squad right here and a hell of a video! Clarified so much and brought so much good to the table. Rick is a wizard in engineering and brought up some damn good points that blew me away! Thanks guys

[@josephr1198]

That video made me want to try Schwacker broadheads, just wish they made one with a titanium ferrule and 125gr I couldn't find one, their website kinda sucks.

[@DavidBowCrazyBabyak86]

Thank all four of younz for making this video and answering some of the questions that we all had. I don't think Dan and MFJJ's video was bad or anything. I completely can see where Levi and the other guy. I forget your name. I'm sorry would get mad or you know feel certain type of way. I'm so happy that Levi explained to LRP system because I had no idea that's actually what it was. I want to look into it and try it out, also maybe I'll get to see or even better meet Levi at the meat eater live show at the Carnegie music hall in Munhall Pa on December 14th. I hope he shows up for the guest appearance that he was invited to by Steve Rhanella himself.

[@wingman327]

Forget ballistic gel. The new testing standard is a Cyber Truck door panel!

[@klc6482]

Awesome video! MEN getting together & overcoming! This is how it should be when we have differences. Thank you Gentlemen for rising above!!!🙌

[@aaronshorter864]

I have a new level of respect for you and MFJJ that would take a video down and then apologize and talk with the others and set it right. I can’t wait to see the new video with all 4 together.

[@mikewhitehead677]

I myself loved your video. It had very valid questions/opinions in it. It was also great that Levi & Rick came on & the 4 of you had a respectful conversation about everything. Kudos to you all. Especially challenging the greatest archery that ever lived, lol.

[@williedunn-rj6nq]

So much respect that y’all can get on here and admit faults and talk about it like adults without bashing one another to only prove you’re right and nobody else’s opinion matters unlike another guy’s video on KZbin discussing arrows. Good job guys keep it up

[@SkyHounddroneservices]

I find it interesting that nobody is discussing the poor adhesion of the TAC vanes . Don’t come and tell me my jig isn’t setup correctly or I did it wrong Because I followed instructions and tried many different things, never an issue sticking any other vanes . I gave the vanes a fair shake and only the white actually stuck to an arrow . The colored vanes will not adhere and stay there .

[@evi2083]

So yeah from what I am getting from this is that they changed equipment in the middle of tests and that would mean none of the test data is legitimate. You can't go from a drop away to a wisker biscuit and call the data consistent.

[@andym5782]

👍......to Dan and MFJJ. Never really cared for the crybaby Levi and Rick didn't impress either.

[@mattguzman73]

This is a great follow up video! Can’t believe y’all did this. This is what the archery community should be! Thank you. TBH, I went away from the first video with a negative attitude towards TAC vanes. This was fantastic. Thanks again!

[@drewolm]

All the social media fan boyism is the only thing saving TAC vanes. If people went to the shop and bought these vanes and the vanes fell off the way they do, people would stop buying them. Put Levi Morgan out there and run the social media circuit people will keep buying them and pretending the vane doesn’t suck.

[@mattguzman73]

@@drewolm true. And I’ll never use tac vanes, but the way the follow up video was done was with class.

[@BergyBowsmith]

MFJJ is inaccurate information so might aswell take him down to

[@african7498]

Good on you for taking down the video and correcting things. But if things are wrong - no matter who is involved - don't flinch from the truth. I believe this was a good outcome.

[@Hubble-M]

Dan we wanna see more of Josh putting in the work at the gym

[@justingarant9367]

I’d like to see what this new beast can do

[@Kujjiman]

I’m not very good with arrow building yet but I couldn’t get my pack of TAC Vanes to stick at all, even using their primer pen. Blew through a pack of them in about a week. I’ve gotten Blazer Vanes to stick and adhere soooo much better, which is a bummer because I had high hopes for TAC Vanes

[@adamvoorhees6028]

Usually if the shaft is clean and you use primer pen, the problem is usually an improper setup on the jig. I’ve never had an issue with Tac vanes not sticking unless the jig wasn’t adjusted properly to the arrow

[@Matt-de7eg]

Would there be anything wrong with me shooting a 150 grain swacker designed for a crossbow? I’m shooting 80# 30” draw and around 500 grain arrow weight

[@brownitsdown]

I am the senate

[@dxt6]

If it was the truth why take it down I think Josh was rite if it is the truth it is the truth Josh spoke the truth in my opinion and Dan but love your videos

[@seantimmerman2360]

I can not wait for the upcoming testing video!!!!

[@xforce708]

I liked this video much better than the other. Glad y’all made it.

[@C.Fowler]

My hats off to you fellas…. Makes me want to try them….

[@ohbla101]

Tac vanes have some pros and cons for me. I have 6 or so arrows still 4 fetched with the 2.25" driver vanes. They were pretty quiet, especially compared to a bohning blazer vane. With them being 4 fletch, they steered the arrows very well. The cons for me would be that they don't adhere great. I've had a ton of them come off the arrows. Thats with wiping down the arrows, using the tac primer pen, and tac glue. Another major flaw is vane memory. If you blow through your target be ready to refletch your arrow. These vanes are terrible about stretching and not going back to normal. I ran them for 2 years and they work great when they work. Just got tired of refletching.

[@huntsimple9527]

This is what is great about choices and different people. Some guys grab some stock Gold Tips with Blazers and Thunderhead 125's and kill bulls and bucks every year. Some guys fiddle with many variations of arrows, fletchings, broadheads, etc. and also kill bulls and bucks every year. That is what is cool about archery and hunting in general - you can be a nerd and fiddle with stuff or you can just take what has worked in the past and both can be successful.

[@makanalaureta6794]

I’ve been shooting swhacker broadhead (Levi Morgan edition) for the past few years, taken 4 bucks. I love them. Great penetration and devastating cuts. Everyone of them went down within sight, max distance they ran after was 50 yards and it was on the last one i shot, he was quartering away so i only hit 1 lung. 1st buck i shot swung his head around to look at my buddy who was filming so i ended up hitting him in the neck. Arrow went through the right side of his neck out the left and through the the right side of his body and hit both lungs, he didn’t go far. Best part about them is the accuracy, I can confidently swap out field points for broadheads and know I’m going to hit wherever my pin is when i shoot. (I do love broadhead tuning and the locking pin feature is really cool because you can practice with the broadhead you want to hunt with, but sometimes if i dont have the time to prep i can still go out). Overall i am very confident with these broadheads and will continue to use them.

[@johnnewcomb5162]

One thing is for sure, the Swhacker broadhead, is the most accurate mechanical broadhead made, no matter what type of fletchings you test with. Dan, I thought would have brung that up and what model it is.

[@Superior_Burrito]

I think Levi and Rick are good dudes, but when watching videos about their products versus others, there often feels like some hesitation from Rick to speak highly about other products that do well. It shows on their TAC vane video, as well as their Swhacker LRP video. I get it, it’s business. But it doesn’t feel 100% honest from Rick. Levi seems to be more honest, but he does seem to play up the good parts of the products he endorses more than others.

[@Vanhamj1]

Kuddos gentlemen for making this video. What all of you just did is what we should be teaching our children about how to handle conflict. Check the egos at the door, and talk through what you were trying to convey or how you interpreted something.

[@jolookstothestars6358]

Me to, i watched the Shwaker video and bought the 1.75 s. I look forward to making it official 😉🦌.

[@tree_monkey3120xp]

I have smoked a ton of deer with Swhackers they are a great head! I'm glad yall cleared the air! Crucial conversations many avoid them, but those who have them gain wisdom!

[@southernairgun7744]

I have no problems with these broadheads but I have experience. No blood but the deer only runs 15 yards max.

[@amarotovar7256]

Tac vanes do not i repeat do not track down range and group like aae vanes, i did the shooting myself to 80 and compared what levi and rick did w a machine, was a little disappointed on how levi and rick mislead the results of thr shots down range

[@Hubble-M]

First impression, Josh has notes..... something fun is going to happen. Also did he really have to look like the giant lol

[@smallbatchsessions6892]

Instead of Zoom use PARC

[@austinhall5933]

After working with engineers for a decade... someone stating they are an engineer as a qualifier means nothing to me. Sorry, just how i see it

[@corycook7879]

Great video guy, it was very respectful that you admitted to the errors and made it right. I have even more respect for y’all now even though it was very high before

[@jolookstothestars6358]

Something in me says the Sever's don't always latch in the open position and that is critical to that style broadhead.

[@blackstream8351]

Vanegate!

[@glenncharles6622]

Dan, this right here is why I love your channel and the content you put out. People sitting down and talking through tough questions is what we need more of. Well done!

[@brianmalick2946]

Great jobs guys.. very true the Swhacker does provide a bigger entrance than one inch. Also big props to the whisker biscuit..

[@adonisaviso7834]

Hey Dan I love your channel, the data is what is upmost important and you and your friends stand by the hard data. I moved to WA 4 years ago and I want to start bow hunting up here but I haven’t put the time in with my bow, it hasn’t been sighted in it just been a 20yd bow you have motivated me to go out put the time in. Your content is very well received and keep it coming.

[@shanedavis6306]

A perfect chance for sides to be picked and sling crap at each other. Which is what seems to be the trend today. What a awesome way to come together for the good of the archery community as a whole. Well played sirs

[@jmharrison1968]

Great vid guys, Dan/JJ hit them up next time about building these with titanium ferrules. My view of these is add durability of a Sevr/ blade quality of a Beast and you would have perfect mechanical.

[@gordonneverdies]

The whisker biscuit slo mos in that video were awesome.

[@02LM7]

I’m an aae guy myself but I will say the customer service at tac is top notch.

[@andyanderson4493]

So what’s the verdict on the DCA Sabres that they stopped showing? Switching to 150gr Iron Will wide single bevels next season and still trying to figure out how to steer them the best without the noise that you get with the Max Hunters.

[@Orr_s]

Prob 3 fletch Tac driver 2.75” with a helical if you can get them to stick well on your jig. Or a super saber 3 fletch. I really like the tacs so far but they were a nightmare to adhere. Even following all the directions and watching vids and dialing in my Bitz perfectlyyy. But i just really like the stiffness of the tac and how light they are. Super sabers are like almost 3 grains heavier per fletch than the same size tac im pretty sure

[@andyanderson4493]

@@Orr_s I've read too many horror stories about TACs not sticking that they're really not even on my radar anymore, i just don't want the hassle. I thought about trying the mini sabres in a 4 fletch because I like the lower profile but not sure how well they'd do. I sent DCA a message asking them that question like a week ago but never heard back.

[@Orr_s]

@@andyanderson4493 ive had good customer service there but that was couple years ago before he came out with those vanes…i read lot of people saying they have zero issues with the tacs sticking also then lots had nightmares…then i tried and did everything by direction, watched the videos and even cut my clamp at the top off a little for clearance issues. Sanded down the clamp to make everything flush because i bought a new clamp for left helical and they took me 3x longer than any vane ive done, and that was only half dozen arrows. Its not like im new to building arrows so idk, frustrating for sure. Theyre on there really good now but i couldn’t run a mean helical and get em to stick like i wanted to try since i only did a 3 fletch in 2.25”. That was with no wrap either. The mini saber in a 4 fletch should be plenty id think, but if the 3 fletch is close to the same weight as 4 minis id prob opt for the longer 3 fletch with an iron will. Just my thoughts

[@glenncharles6622]

I have been playing around with the Tac’s on my 5mm/IW Single Bevel arrows and I just can’t get them to fly as well as the Max Hunters. I will say I did not have any problem getting them to stick on clean arrows, with primer pen and the Vane Master Pro 3 degree helical.

[@Orr_s]

@@glenncharles6622 yeah i think it might be a fletching jig issue, the Bitz is finicky, and i even have the aae receiver nob…prepped and cleaned the arrows as good and OCD as always. Used their primer pen and bob smith industries glue which i have found to be the best out of any fletching glue ive tried. Maybe i really do need their glue but its the same chemical in the tac glue. I did use no wrap maybe thats why it was so hard to adhere well because i usually always use a wrap but i wanted to get rid of the 10 grains in the back and go no wrap this time. Thats surprising and a bummer to hear though, they arent flying as well. Max hunter is a good bit taller and louder only from what i hear though havent fletched them myself

[@jaysonmathis9444]

Much respect for these gentleman- thank y’all for all you do!

[@Evasive14]

Love that a questionable video leads to a successful collaboration with the best archer in the world. What a turn of events 😂

[@Cpt-Pugwash14]

I LOVE Tac vanes

[@deemoulton6890]

Great take! Love to see a follow up. United and let’s get better.

[@darrenlowry7477]

Mfjj and Levi Morgan together testing things will be amazing

[@elchuyteg6305]

Great video, Dan. This is why I keep this channel in my favorites. Always straightforward..

[@jetjohnson1106]

Bro Levi. If you’re upset about someone criticizing your product then you’re not down with free speech. Grow up.

[@TheRealEricRose]

This is how you achieve a premium product!

[@Pwilson0046]

Awesome video and learned some new things too! Can’t wait for the next one

[@wrmartin73]

Sorry Rick you don’t get the same size entrance hole from a swhacker that you do from a fixed blade. I’ve shot them and it’s not the case. Entrance hole is tiny and makes for a long day if u don’t get an exit. I do like how the main blades are fresh for the vitals but you better get an exit. Just don’t BS people there’s no need for it.

[@nootnuh]

Archers united not divided. Dan and MFJJ, thanks for being men of character and integrity. Levi and Rick, thanks for making yourselves available to answer questions and share info. This video was informative and beneficial on many levels.

[@DavidBowCrazyBabyak86]

Thank you for asking the lrp question Dan

[@brianloeffler2245]

I wish democrats could take a page out from Josh. That's awesome , everybody should be able to say sorry I made a mistake. And apologize for the incorrect statement. Nice job MFJJ and that is one reason i purchase from Podium archery !!

[@tylerroberts2146]

Thanks guys! Awesome video. Unitied not divided.

[@gwiltz1123]

So you took down a video, because you called them out on their BS and they didn't like it....

[@adamvoorhees6028]

He took down his video because he didn’t know what he was talking about!! He admitted that

[@gwiltz1123]

You sure about that?

[@leroyjones769]

That was a whole new level in all aspects. Well done gentlemen, well done.

[@scottdavis2133]

I think you both made valid points based on the information provided by the video. The fact that Levi and Rick got emotionally offended and upset over unbiased criticism of what was if we're being fair a video biased towards their product speaks more towards their own emotional immaturity. You should have left the video up Dan and let your viewers decide for themselves. Sometimes you hurt people's feelings, Dan, and sometimes people get hurt not because your comments were mean or unfair, but because they were accurate observations. I like Levi, and I like John Dudley, but these guys with their "how dare you question me!" Ego, these past few weeks is hurting archery more than the differing opinions lately.

[@codysmith8042]

I saw it more as there were some inaccurate statements and assumptions made by Dan and Josh that needed to be cleared up.

[@danwattsmessick]

@@codysmith8042 All well and good, however, if clarification was all that was needed the original video shouldn’t have needed to be deleted. Could have been an “update” video or a “part 2” video. This whole thing was weird if the only reason behind it were for clarification. Apologies can be made in private, I’m not sure why this was necessary to be made publicly.