I Drive The Electric Jeep Wagoneer For The First Time! Impressively Terrible Drivetrain Tuning

[@JesseSmtns]

Just murdering the car on KZbin while the sales rep sits in the back.😂

[@jeffreyjohnson3103]

I felt bad for the lovely Bella.

[@blakeogeris2494]

Diabolical 😅😅

[@volcalstone]

She's about to find another dealership to work for 😊

[@blast3001]

They were trying hard to point out the good things.

[@erhand82]

Better to know the truth and fix the issues than to be a yes man and push trash to the masses

[@rnodeprot]

Friends don't let friends buy Stellantis vehicles

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

😂😆

[@flatspin7]

Yeah.. there doesn’t appear to be a single area where this thing is superior to any of the competitors.

[@DavGreg]

When you have to change the name of your truck brand - Dodge to RAM…

[@Yielar1]

Cringe statement for an adult. Lol

[@Mrbfgray]

Seriously feel bad for the guy described who impulsively purchased one of these.

[@Pookgai420]

Its wild how the other automotive outlets are praising this car. It really shows who's a shill. We really appreciate your journalistic integrity Kyle!

[@KyleConner]

I really don’t think many in our industry are “paid” or “shills”. Most of our colleagues from other outlets work hard and some are incredibly knowledgeable. I have different points to look at than most when reviewing a car (also why there are multiple outlets) and also have a low tolerance for shit engineering.

[@Ultimatebubs]

Some car reviewers are just afraid to give a negative review. Hell... the MotorTrend review of the Dodge Charger EV seemed almost positive?

[@officialyasir]

I think a lot of them just don’t know any better. I cringe every time I hear some journalist say how all EVs drive the same.

[@Pookgai420]

@@KyleConner ok fine they’re not shills but they also don’t want to lose out of the press trip gravy train.

[@smig95]

Most reviews I have seen on this say it was a half baked first attempt at an EV. Pretty consistent from what I have seen.

[@jelloMohnny]

So....Stellantis thinks they are somehow going to punish the channel by not sending a launch invite? Or keep you guys from reviewing it? Childish.

[@chrisss73841]

That's the the new Stellantis management. FCA was a better company.

[@holmiumh]

Not the ideal behavior for sure but keep in mind pretty much all carmakers do this. The real difference is it's not hard to find good things to say about Toyota, Honda, Mazda, or Subaru and as long as it's a mostly positive review the marketing folks can live with that and maintain engagement (they have bosses too and ultimately they can't spend money to let people shit all over the product). But it's genuinely difficult to find good things to say about Jeep at times as it doesn't matter how good or well-intended the design is we all know the implementation is poor, it's only a matter of how poor it is.

[@ericanderson1753]

It’s not childish. It’s shrewd. Did the marketing department design and engineer the vehicle? What is their job? If they can do a thing which will have a negative impact on perception and sales, or do a thing that will have a positive impact on perception and sales, they have a responsibility to do the latter. Or we could all leave our jobs every time our companies make questionable or bad product decisions.

[@CFG39]

@@holmiumhI think nearly every review of the BZ4X/Solterra/MX-30 was terrible and for good reason. Even so Mazda, Toyota, Subaru didn’t ban people from reviewing their cars.

[@jelloMohnny]

@@ericanderson1753 It's petty, it's vindictive, and it shows their thin skin can't handle honest, constructive criticism. How are products supposed to improve if they don't listen to critics? Organisations who stifle criticism are poorly run. These guys are already late to the EV game and need all the feedback they can get, positive or negative. And no amount of "shrewd" marketing will hide the truth about a poor product. Ask Vinfast....

[@DrewPasta]

I love how honest this guy is

[@hnnotyy]

He's a moron

[@georgecostanza2695]

I think Stellantis squandered a golden opportunity, not just with this Wagoneer but with the entire Jeep brand.

[@DNHarris]

sighs

[@cynic256]

Jeep are hilariously terrible vehicles. Genuinely don't know how they are still in business

[@paulp6549]

Stellantis needs to pay you guys a few million for this review since you just educated their engineers on how to build a competitive vehicle. You should host a session with their R&D team.💵💵💵

[@rogerrussell9544]

Would they want to travel to India, Morocco or Brazil where they have engineers?

[@markdc1145]

Just what R&D team? Most have been let go.

[@benhaze1010]

Here I disagree with you and you don't know much about vehicle design: Engineers have a much higher standards than automotive executives who take all the wrong decisions for the wrong reasons. You are targeting 100% the wrong target; get a grip on reality if you want to make a meaningful message. Your statement is truly shameful.

[@andrewfast6530]

I promise its not the engineers, do your research.

[@OrdoXenos1020]

This is such a sad comparison coming off of your China car videos.

[@Trades46]

That Chinese is running away with the EV market very fast while the USA sits on their tariff wall?

[@Radek3887]

China is working on making their stuff better for less while everyone else is working on making their stuff worse for more.

[@msawyer110]

​@Trades46 the same tariffs we are subjecting the world to we have been charged since day one. Why do you think there are so few American vehicle manufacturers in China. Think McFly think!

[@SM-bu4fw]

@@msawyer110Untrue. China charges tariffs on engine displacement so G wagons or Lambos get the same treatment as American V8s. There has never been a tariff against a specific country like the U.S. did to China. And U.S constantly complains about leveling the field or market access. lol. Come on, until you can buy a BYD in U.S. You already lost this argument. Also GM made its lion share of profits until Chinese EVs picked up the steam. Don’t act like you are a victim. American ICE cars simply suck and you all know that. Look at the sales figures within America. Other than trucks, no one is buying American. RAV4s even outsell any Stellantis model including RAM1500-3500s.

[@OrdoXenos1020]

@@msawyer110 the problem with your thinking is that even Adam Smith believes in tariffs to protect infant industries. America isn't an infant. It's just bad at making something despite having a longer history and way more subisidies than any nation in history. And it's targeting specific nations that it struggles against. They had 100% tariffs against Japan and then wrecked Japan since that's just a vassal state who has to adopt any policy America asks for. Then they did it to China. Americans just suck at manufacturing and had a small golden era when the rest of the world was recovering from major wars America was insulated from

[@barryw9473]

Thank you for your brutal honesty.

[@patrickharper1798]

Largest charge port door in it's segment!

[@anton_grahn]

Award winning!

[@26longlongtime]

Largest wing in segment by far

[@travellingslim]

I think it's totally fair to compare the software experience to Tesla and expect better from every automaker. Route planning and responsiveness are the two most important things to get right in the software of an EV. Like Andreas said, it reinforces the negative stereotypes of EVs.

[@you2be839]

It's totally fair from the simple fact that there are $200 smartphones with faster and more responsive systems (and more useful EV navigation too!), so to find this kind of stuff on a +$70k vehicle is borderline insulting!

[@theyruinedyoutubeagain]

The Dodge charger pun caused me physical pain

[@rickslife]

The caharger has been reduced to a wall ornament 😅

[@officialyasir]

Me too! From laughing too hard! 😂😂

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

😂😆

[@concinnus]

Nah, physical pain would be if you were sitting on a Jeep PHEV bus bar that shorted out.

[@ultrastoat3298]

2:46 I really hate access journalism. And I do appreciate Kyle’s persistence in not participating in that corrosive game.

[@Charlesbjtown]

It might not have been the honest review that did him in. It was probably the "WTF" in the title.

[@hnnotyy]

You're an idiot

[@lexiconthx1]

Really appreciate that you guys don’t sell out. Lost lots of respect for other channels that have the obviously awful charger ev a great review. I will keep watching you guys because you tell it how it is. Great content especially lately with all the Chinese ev coverage. Keep it up love your channel.

[@Ianmundo]

if you spend $75k on an electric Jeep you need your sanity checked 🤪

[@joshhuang2279]

people who spend 75k on a electric jeep does not care about the jeep or the 75k, and they don't need the sanity check they are perfectly insane

[@jayh6900]

@@joshhuang2279 And will be $28k in about 18 months

[@2moe]

Aesthetically, this car looks gorgeous. The exterior and interior design...the red interior. Beautiful. I hope they can adjust all these weaknesses . After all, many EVs came out of the door with major defects and they get ironed out with time.

[@olemissjim]

I love the pre roll style before the channel intro! Give your editor a raise!!!

[@brenrob7403]

Keep it up. Your reviews are…..unvarnished 😂 and we appreciate it

[@Mark-ff9en]

Bought a new van from this dealership and had it delivered to my residence in Texas. Probably one the easiest transactions ever buying a new vehicle.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

I'm glad my Cadillac Lyriq came with a portable charger that has 110v AND 240v - swappable plugs. I have never needed to use it, but I have it just in case.

[@tobyray8700]

Just like Tesla.

[@trendel13]

Nothing makes me feel better than a review of a bad Stellantis product.

[@tigercub2468]

There’s only so much engineering talent and we have to consider that Jeep’s engineers are likely not the cream of the crop.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Not EVen the creamed corn in a can 😂

[@zephxiii]

Well I think it had more to do with Tavares cutting costs and laying off a lot of engineers as then it becomes too many things to do not enough people. Jeep has dialed things in really nice before with other products.

[@jordanhart9441]

Whoever is gonna pay 75 grand for an electric Jeep Compass is insane and will be hit with depreciation like no one’s ever seen lol

[@amigajoe]

I think the charging number all reviews should use is ‘X minutes to add 100 miles in best conditions’ The 10 to 80 % value results in a large variation of miles added depending on the vehicle.

[@supamario3055]

Stellantis dont like any disparaging review. They get journalists to sign a contract to not say anything disparaging about their cars. Its probably how the Avenger EV got 2023 European car of the year. Carwow had problems with the Avenger EV and were forced to remove their video.

[@TheJ1s]

Yeah, I saw that video and the next day it was gone. Carwow didn't say nothing about it. Maybe Stellantis just do what Toyota is doing until they have someone who knows how to build a decent EV.

[@tobias_k01]

Yup, it happens again and again that when one car reviewing channel says something negative that they are 1) not invited to press drives anymore, 2) get a friendly recommendation to remove the video or 3) get treated harshly or ghosted by them if they are smaller creators. It is extremely embarassing, especially the case with carwow where they uncovered dangerous flaws with the braking system throwing errors and not working correctly. But at least that video got over a million views before being deleted, so enough people got to see it. It is a really bad look for this company. If they would make better produtcs, they wouldn't be in this position.

[@andrewsackey5728]

Wow can't believe this😂

[@joetacchino4470]

Nobody is signing contracts. Stop making crap up.

[@MattBlank0]

I would not have been able to restrain my laughter during the Charger reveal with the fake engine noises.

[@nerdbikes3841]

If this ends up selling halfway decent then Rivian’s R2 should sweep the floor with this segment. I think we all know Rivian’s tuning out the factory door on the R2 will be killer.

[@Charlesbjtown]

I think it's safe to say that Kyle HATES all things Chrysler 😂. And i SERIOUSLY doubt Chrysler will bring him out to another one of their events. But i don't think he cares.

[@Australiaisupsidedown]

Good 👍

[@cynic256]

Anyone who knows anything about vehicles hates Chrysler/jeep. They are literally dumpsters on wheels.

[@vegajf51]

He doesn't, he likes real Jeep's like the Wrangler and Gladiator.

[@Oklm23]

Stellantis needs to hear the truth though, if all journalists could do the same maybe Stellantis would get their shit together when it comes to the poor infotainment and software stunning. This is what's stopping many people from purchasing one of their EV, including myself...

[@timoliver8940]

The electric Jeep in Europe is called the Avenger and it’s a lot smaller than the Wagoneer. It has a small slow charging standard Stelantis 50kWh battery common to many Stelantis cars over here

[@im4udevco]

Oh boy, Stellantis is not going to like you Kyle. We're glad to see you review this. They may not like the truth. Maybe they should have consulted with you before they released it.

[@jeanviloria1988]

I used to work at a jeep dealership as a salesman and the amount of times my customers would come back in days because the car had an issue is INSANE 😭

[@Parody-bx6pc]

He is in a no bullshit mood and I am here for it it’s entertaining

[@bikergeekgd]

Great, thorough evaluation. The audio brand is pronounced "MacIntosh" just like the computer. Interestingly, back in the early 1980's, there was legal action between McIntosh and Apple. Apple planned to call their computer "McIntosh" but added the "a" as a concession to McIntosh.

[@Rom3oDelta7]

Turns out that was a good thing! Otherwise, we'd be calling it an iMc now 😉

[@LJLion]

Kyle and the crew are persona non grata at Stellantis debuts. They can't stand your rightful criticism.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Kyle is more welcome than Karlosh Tovarich😂

[@ACMichler]

That drop down screen is the smartest UI implementation.

[@wikn8r275]

I love that middle screen that goes up. Something different, very innovative.

[@dtemp132]

I look at that and go "yep that mechanism is going to break someday and I'm going to have to spend $700 to fix it.

[@ruly999]

It's worse than the Chinese knockoff version of itself, if that existed. Not that the Chinese would bother, their cars are better than this now.

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

😂😆

[@needles_balloon]

It's worse than a C-tier Chinese startup's imitation of an off-roady SUV

[@Trades46]

Chinese EVs are so much better finished and tuned than this, and they churn them out by the dozen for 1/2 the price of this...Jeep thing.

[@jackie2-g8l]

$75k american junk, there are cheaper chinese EVs has more tech and better specs than this

[@James__Gregory]

Temu Grand Cherokee.

[@msbgone]

Making of the next MKBHD vid, too bad, it looks pretty nice!

[@vegajf51]

Jeeps always LOOK nice. looks have never been their problem.

[@igormac88]

How they managed to make an SUV lighter than the sports car whilst using the same platform and powertrain is wild 😂

[@screenPhiles]

Kinda funny that (mainly) Kyle insults this vehicle with a representative of the dealership in the car.

[@flatspin7]

I see zero reason to choose this over the Caddy Lyriq or Polestar 3. I just leased a P3 and it’s awesome.

[@GadielVaStar]

How is your Polestar?

[@emanuellycabrera6859]

Or Model X

[@jasonharrison601]

I guess "Cherokee-E" would be too hard to pronounce

[@frumpd63]

Cherokeevee

[@yournumberonepal]

E-Cherokee.

[@MichaelEilers]

The Wagoneer was historically smaller than the Cherokee to my memory.

[@PhilKulak]

I can just picture the conversation with the dealer: "We're probably going to trash this car somehow. However, if you let us drive it, we can trash it WHILE shouting out your dealership." Honestly, I'd take that deal. haha

[@RysterARCEE]

Kudos to Bella for sitting through the brutal honesty about the products she sells. It cannot be easy being a Stellantis sales associate these days.

[@vincentvega4390]

Oh let me tell you, Stellantis dealers are the biggest haters of Stellantis atm, so she probably hates this car even more then Kyle lol. They don’t sell well for a reason.

[@FalconGaming101]

I don't understand why these car companies don't think it would be a good idea to give it to the KZbinrs to review before they send it to market so they can make changes instead of sending it to the market and then asking them to review it only for them to shoot it into the ground 😂

[@DamyanTanev]

15:30 wow what a great job they did with copying the interior from the Jaguar I pace the interior R&D costs must have been under 100$

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

I’m impressed with the value the Wagoneer S offers from a feature perspective. Heated/ventilated/massaging seats up front. Heated/ventilated seats in back. Passenger display. HVAC display. Camera mirror. Heads up display. Less than $75,000. That’s not bad at all! The problem is that STELLANTIS didn’t understand how to make a proper electric vehicle even though they gave us features from the Jeep grand Cherokee 4XE parts bin. When you release an electric vehicle now, it’s pretty much expected that you’re going to have better than 400 V architecture. When you release an electric vehicle now, it’s expected that the tuning be done in a manner to prevent wheel spin and to deliver power directly to the road. We’ll spin does nothing but grind your tires to dust. And that’s always been a big problem with early electric vehicles. Electric vehicles are heavy and they go harder on the Taires, which is part of the reason why tire inflation tends to be higher than normal ECE cars. We have the Wagoneer S in blue. We have a Mercedes EQS. I also have a Cadillac LYRIQ. But the major issue that I see which is not inherent to the card itself is the fact that STELLANTIS doesn’t have its own charging network. When you buy one of these cars, you better make certain that you get your charger installed in your house. The EVgo network is trash. Electrify America is only a little bit better. The best network is Teslasuperchargers and they charge a fortune for you to use them.

[@crsp76691]

This jeep sounds nice and quiet on the highway which is very important for me. I just rode in a new model 3 performance on a road trip with a friend to tahoe. I couldn’t believe how much wind noise from the window seals at 75mph!!! Completely unacceptable for me. I had to crank the volume to hear my podcast. Carpet and interior fit and finish unacceptable to me as well. Performance and range and charging and state of charge upon destination arrival were great though

[@kemijarks]

Kyle great job man, thank you for being a pro and givins us honest reviews , Stellantis i know you are struggling but that s really very low of you,

[@boowiebear]

Thinking of Bella in the back while you are roasting the car. 🤣💀

[@MarcoPon]

I'm sure now you'll get plenty of invites for the next Stellantis events! 🤣

[@BH195829]

This is a great honest fair review. The truck looks great and the interior is beautiful. I’m glad the dealership gave you a free hand to be honest; the strong points are strong and it’s weak points a weak…. I think for the money personally I’d be buying the cyber truck.That being said people who find the cyber truck too weird - would probably really enjoy this Jeep, once they sort out the drive-through issues.👍

[@danbsimpson]

I saw a few quick reviews that were all pretty positive, i love this is honest and really shows where Stalantis needs to improve, this looks great, interior seems designed nice, but the flaws pointed out are deal breaking with the other options out there

[@daviidfm923]

The “phone holder” between the cup holders is not a phone holder. It’s a key holder. Many other jeep models have it too.

[@tobyray8700]

So what we need to cool the keys with a fan?

[@daviidfm923]

@ that’s a phone charger…..

[@ktwei]

This is what protection with tariffs gets you.

[@MDC_1985]

So how do you explain Tesla’s domination?

[@ktwei]

@@MDC_1985 Tesla was successful way before people knew what the word tariff existed. They were successful before the Chinese EV boom. I respect Musk's ability to create such a company "don't like the man". Tesla is probably the only serious EV manufacturer that has a change against the Chinese EV industry doesn't mean they can maintain their dominance.

[@fortyyearfitness]

Do they make this outside of the USA?

[@JesseSmtns]

@@ktweiyou know Elon didn’t create Tesla right?

[@ktwei]

@@JesseSmtns Yea, he didn't but he did have the drive to make it successful "still don't like the guy". EM usually has a clause in the contracts of company he buys to allow him to mention that he started them.

[@Alsacien]

I've been waiting for the fully electric Jeep Wrangler that comes out in a couple of years. This is scary. I'll probably end up with a Rivian R2.

[@new_nonsense]

How are manufacturers failing to read the room over and over again. The average car buyer is not going to buy a 70k ev. Automakers feel threatened by China but do nothing to build a cheaper EV in America.

[@jxeral]

I really love your passion for cars Kyle 🙂

[@redvivid]

Honestly the spoilers are probably the coolest part of this car. Forgetting the visual aspect, the actual function is cool.

[@alsheremeta]

I don't think they understand the functionality... As in directing the air flow to sweep the rear window clear of rain, snow and dust, every vehicle of this design should have this. In the days of station wagons, many people mounted air foils to do the same thing, I installed one on a 1991 Subaru Legacy wagon and it worked great, only took 30 plus years to start seeing the same idea on vehicles.

[@chaozi6688]

This kind of electric vehicle is an old antique compared with Chinese electric vehicles

[@jxeral]

At 12:25 "This can't do the Rubicon trail" ... "if this becomes a rental car, it conquering the trail no problem" 🤣🤣🤣

[@arthurs7882]

Just one thing to mention about the price is there are ridiculous lease deals. Also, I suspect in less than a month you won't have to pay anything near MSRP

[@jacobB1290H]

I feel like they purposefully tune the drive train terribly to make their more profitable ICE cars more appealing

[@ervin9805]

49:03 bella did NOT know what she was about to be in for... 😭

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

Bella love you long time.

[@DunDun-e43]

Stellantis never fails to depress

[@GlitterGuru]

They didn't invite you because they knew you'd be honest 😂

[@simplygregsterev]

Iirc Top Gear had the same issue getting a Challenger back in the day because they were always ripping their cars to pieces

[@dominickbrookes5103]

They want $75k for this😂

[@ROBMACDUI]

You need to understand who their customers are. I mean, They have no issues paying that much for a wrangler.

[@Lucid911-k2i]

In EU Stellantis put Google-system an their Renault Scenic. Maybe Jeep should also go towards Google…

[@monaezytwo6513]

More Bella please.

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

Pacific Rim

[@NadezhdaAndreeva-nt5ox]

This is truly great! I'm proud of how you make us laugh!

[@wrdominicas]

its good that they tell you how it is , save you money and time wasted on tech that dont work

[@HJW018]

Stellantis strikes again.

[@mikeintampa250]

Kyle described the buttons as a "hodgepodge," LOL

[@adnivara777]

That rear wing is an extreme version of what the Rivian R2 is going to have. I personally prefer the R2 implementation which does not drastically reduce the usable cargo space

[@guse1219]

It's $75k. That should have been the end of the review. How many options are there, ICE and EV, for that price? EVs need to be able to complete with ICE cars if they have any future and based on this review this Jeep can't even compete with other EVs.

[@ervin9805]

kyle: this is bad, wow this is so bad, this is bad bad bad. bella in the back: 👁️👄👁️

[@MrBaskins2010]

bro took the glasses off so he wouldnt have to see what they've done to the jeep lineup lol solid review, no sugarcoating on out of spec

[@mikerpm4x4]

I actually really like this vehicle a lot. I can overlook some of the driving quirks. I can even overlook the bad charging map with a phone app. However, not having an estimate of the state of charge on arrival is honestly a deal breaker. Stelantis, please fix this asap.

[@DanielZajic]

That was a great review, and hilarious. Also, it's pronounced Mack-in-tosh.

[@Nebula1701]

Depends on what you consider touch points I think both this and Lyriq have good interiors. The V looks to have fixed things too... can't wait for it to be out.

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Its a good looking vehicle. Still works for most ppl daily trips

[@bassistdc]

If you need to plug in an air compressor to inflate a tire while you aren't in your car you need a start button. I have a VW ID.4.

[@DCTag]

The lag is astounding

[@newscoulomb3705]

31:36 I would say that "different from Tesla" is not synonymous with "bad." I feel like there's a bit of Tesla groupthink going on here because a lot people don't travel the way Tesla owners have gotten accustomed to traveling, and that is to say, tethered to the Supercharger Network. The landscape of public charging is changing rapidly, and it's not 2018-2020 anymore. Even if it were, at that point, it was possible to travel in a non-Tesla EV without using a route planner. Some people simply want to see the fast charging stations that are available on their route, and they have no interest in optimizing their trip based on the fasted cannonball run time. And they definitely have no interest in optimizing their trip around the needs of the car. That's not how ICE drivers travel, so asking them to adopt Tesla's model for travel and navigation is likely a non-starter. Especially in light of recent events.

[@vegajf51]

The problem is many people coming from ICE cars just get in and drive, they need a car to make EV driving easy for them. This will quickly disappoint and feed into the anti-EV fud. If an EV hater drove this it would confirm a lot of their bias, if an EV hater drove a Tesla or Rivian they would walk away pleasantly surprised.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@vegajf51 We're making the same argument but coming to a different conclusion. The use case for this EV is, hop in and drive. If it's less than 300 miles, no worries. Just charge at home. If it's a road trip, when you need to stop or are starting to get low on range (say less than 100 miles), bring up the "show fast chargers along your route" feature, and it will give you options of where you can stop. That is FAR more intuitive for people coming from ICE cars, and it's been primarily how I've traveled in a non-Tesla EV for the last 8 years. What consumers coming from ICE don't want, though, is to be made to feel that they have to adjust how they travel solely for the benefit of the car. Getting to chose between a 31 Flavors, Buc-ee's, Pilot, or even Walmart when selecting their next charging stop means they can make their trip about their needs, not just the charging needs of the car. It's also worth noting that Tesla's route planning is NOT customer centric. It's focused on keeping people in the Tesla ecosystem while reducing the time-based load on their Supercharger Network.

[@vegajf51]

@@newscoulomb3705 I disagree, as someone who is a Turo host we get constant complaints on the Kia Niro, and ID4. We get the opposite on the Tesla's, as an EV enthusiast we shouldn't want to feed into the anti-EV crowd's bias. The kia and VW are great quality cars but are badly implemented EVs and ICE drivers come back feeling like it's a lifestyle change to own that car, they make you want an ICE car for road trips. I am also in Oklahoma so a DC charger isn't always perfectly along your route.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@vegajf51 Your past experiences might be leading you astray here. Neither of your non-Tesla EVs had plug and charge, and they both barely get over 200 miles on a charge, especially on long trips. Add to that that the Niro EV is an extremely slow charging car by modern EV standards, and you have a recipe for disappointment. The big factors you need to be aware of now are a movement toward universal plug and charge, credit card reader requirements on each charger, and a significant buildout of public fast chargers along interstate routes. As I noted in my original comment, it's not 2020 anymore, and things are developing quickly. Even in Oklahoma, we're looking at three to four 350+ kW charging sites every 100 or so miles of interstate, with a plethora of different site hosts to chose from. Get a 300-mile non-Tesla EV with 10-80% charging in under 30 minutes for your Turo fleet, and you might be surprised at the feedback today.

[@sirishkumar-m5z]

Toyota’s bZ4X offers a state-of-the-art cabin, complete with a digital speedometer, multi-information display, and a driver-focused layout that makes every control feel within reach.

[@vsc604]

after watching your last video and now this.. made me realize how much we're getting hosed here in Canada & the states, yet people will still gobble these up.

[@bobhawkey3783]

I suspect a lot of uncommitted car companies are just trying to meet emissions targets that they knew would be going away. 😢

[@crushbaseball4270]

Also owning a vehicle with Uconnect 4 that is right before Uconnect 5 came out, I can definitely say that I like Uconnect 4 better it is less glitchy and runs better then Uconnect 5

[@Yielar1]

Well, I will say the exterior looks and interior cabin design blows the doors off of the Telsa Y. Considering it's their first model release, I'll give them some slack and time to tighten up the infotainment UI and charging mapping....things that can easily be improved over time.

[@JustAYouTuber1991]

All of these issue are giving cost cutting to the max. I know this car cost less than 30k to build and they want 70 for all of these issues. I can’t believe how many people support Stellantis it’s absolutely insane. Explains why the Hornet isn’t selling.

[@B0xlife1]

Found a loaded hornet for 25k off MSRP brand new already.

[@arthurs7882]

I'm wincing when the shot goes back to Andreas and he's putting his body weight on the armrest!

[@TheDrivenDave]

That screen lag is PAINFUL. Great review guys!

[@jmf1134]

I just got the dodge charger joke 😂 Man I’m slow lolol

[@vincentrobinette1507]

You actually want identical front and rear motors. Rear for the "go", front for the "whoa". (full regenerative braking, where the "whoa" matches the "go") This is necessary, because of weight transfer during acceleration and braking.

[@johnsullivan8673]

Tesla doesn’t do that for their performance models

[@vincentrobinette1507]

@@johnsullivan8673 Tesla is looking for much more forward acceleration, than the Wagoneer. The regenerative braking of a Tesla is similar, or slightly stronger, but has much better acceleration. Tesla doesn't have "full regenerative braking", because it's whoa doesn't match its go, but it still has excellent regenerative braking. The high performance Tesla models have 2 permanent magnet rear motors, and a single induction motor with differential in the front.

[@johnsullivan8673]

@ nobody relies on full regenerative braking. Everyone has blended braking. How are you gonna pump large amounts of current into a high SOC battery pack?

[@vincentrobinette1507]

@@johnsullivan8673 You can't! That's why you need to allow "hill top reserve" if you live at the top of a steep hill. If you charge an EV to 100%, you don't get ANY regen! To get 100% regen, you need to use cruise control, or, in the case of a Chevrolet Bolt, you use driver assist, without ever touching the brake pedal. (It can hold back as hard as it can accelerate, if the battery is down a bit, and at the right temperature) If the battery is fully charged, that feature simply won't work. You have to use the brake pedal, and use friction. I've never driven this new Wagoneer, so I don't know if it has that feature.

[@johnsullivan8673]

@ hmmmm…so you know all these EVs are brake by wire, right? I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say at this point

[@AaronHope_Sow]

Good to see them trying. They have had a lot of technology issues going back to the pandemic chip shortage. The biggest change here from their ICE vehicles is offering OTA updates vs having to take it in for a recall 👌🏾

[@mcar6592]

Heads up display is adjustable for size, brightness, location, and content. Also, the dash display is configurable.

[@timkline162]

I was looking forward to the jeep recon, this review scares me. Thanks for being honest and not sugar coating anything

[@YuenanCao]

There is always the VW Scout, available not for another TWO YEARS LOL

[@timkline162]

@@YuenanCao yeah I’ve been following that too, I like it.. but my current lease will be up in may 27, not sure the scout will be out by then .. not like I could afford one anyway though… I’ll probably end up with the equinox EV

[@fredm6421]

25k too high

[@TBCreative-10]

Avenger is the Jeep we should have gotten here you guys couldn’t remember the name of. I still don’t know why we don’t get it here. You’d think Stellantis would actually want an affordable Jeep they could lead the segment with. They could have dominated with a sharp-looking compact SUV that comes in full EV, hybrid and gas configurations, at a lower price than the Equinox EV. It’s no wonder they’re in trouble, as customers continue to complain about outrageous Jeep prices. Another fantastic video, guys!

[@dylancraver6960]

If you were to buy one of these used (or honestly new), it would probably be helpful to know which sensor has gone out for repair purposes. My 2016 Q5 just says “Sensors Unavailable” whenever ONE of them is having a moment

[@Rene-uz3eb]

Seems to be decent overall, an american non tesla option with decent build quality. The software probably was rushed for release, but since it can be easily updated I don't doubt they can add the expected charge level at destination.

[@Rom3oDelta7]

Just wait for the Lucid Gravity Touring later this year. A bit more money but better in all respects.