I FINALLY Got It Working: RTX 3080 TI Vs Ridiculous MSI Pre-Built

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I finally get the RTX 3080 Ti to run in the ridiculous MSI Pre-built. Well it kinda runs.
The first video where I "accidentally" killed the original MSI system: • This RIDICULOUS MSI Pr...
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[@riven4121]

Drinking game: take a shot every time Dawid says "thiddy"

[@williamhoward9121]

That would make me so drunk I would forget how to pick up a glass

[@aaz1992]

GeeTee Ten Thiddy!

[@ciclossickasssideshow]

My liver can only take so much

[@Void_Dweller7]

When does he say thiddy?

[@gameface6091]

@@Void_Dweller7 Thiddy-eighty tea eye

[@egnatius79]

Dawid's moans whenever he wrestles with PC components never fail to crack me up

[@mad82827]

My mom weighs 400 pounds because I feed her 50 big macs a day

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

*moans*

[@philtkaswahl2124]

"Almost sexual, isn't it, Smithers?" --Mr. Burns

[@orangedealer6931]

​@@mad82827 the fuck? 🤣🤣🤣

[@PokèMyBalls]

It's literally PC Pr0n!

[@AnnaDoes]

What an adventure! You traversed the PC of Death, conquered the Proprietary Valley of Hell and eventually got your noble Stead (the 3080Ti) to perform on the Battlefield... at 75%... which is better than the fainting it was doing at the mere sight of the Battlefield when it was Gung-Ho at 100% Knightly done

[@justurboi3806]

lol what a great way to describe the video!

[@CougarCat21]

An adventure indeed!

[@Eremon1]

I'd say he earned an honorary engineering degree.

[@darrenfalconer3267]

Steed

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

You have such a way with words. 😃

[@RedBairnMedia]

Can you consider them "hot swappable" if you've got to spend half an hour getting to them? 🤣

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Haha!! That’s fair.

[@stragulus]

They'll still be hot from all that restricted airflow in the case.

[@codygrinnell8676]

🤣

[@broodjenoodles]

@@stragulus yes

[@darkmadrap]

war thunder american tanker male voice . III AGREEE !!!

[@miha493]

9:30 David: "My finger can barely fit between the bracket and fan." Some effective manager from MSI:"It's still fit whole finger! In next generation we should build case half inch slimmer!"

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Haha!! That’s exactly how they would look at that.

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

It's not meant for fingers !

[@krypton1260]

5:51 ...or the replacement psu is not compatible even with the adapter. Those motherboards that use proprietary connectors are quite picky about the PSU that you use. You might get it to start if you hold or press the power button at the exact time that you plug it in AC power if it's anything like HP's proprietary junk.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Dell engineers have worked on this case design, with the hotswap bays hidden behing stuff you can't get at

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

It does seem suspiciously like Dell design was involved.

[@alantherock225]

I bought one of the original Aegis models back in the day because it claimed that it's easy to upgrade. Good God I quickly found out that that couldn't be further from the case.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

That's as close to the truth as the similar claim for Dell's Alienware laptops. The one where they got a class action lawsuit for

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

They really sold it as being easy to upgrade? 😂

[@roowut]

@Michaels Carport it’s easy to upgrade* *the keyboard

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

You have to upgrade your head if you’re seriously claiming that

[@Grimmwoldds]

I dunno Alan, it seems to me the problem is not "further from the case", but actually IN the case.

[@meestasqueed5867]

Im pretty sure Silverstone is one of the few, if not only, reputable companies that makes power supplies in weird form factors lol.

[@paulmeyer1001]

They make a lot of weird stuff

[@werewolfmoney6602]

Silverstone can be pretty hit or miss I've heard good things about them But in my own personal experience, I had a 750w 80+ gold Silverstone power supply burn/melt the 5v portion of the SATA power cable that came with it. All that was connected to it was a fan hub with 3 fans on it, so it wasn't an issue of too much power draw, and it also wasnt a case of a loose connection, cause it was fitted snugly. At least it didn't take any other components with it, but I'll still never buy a Silverstone PSU again.

[@kojetono5853]

@@werewolfmoney6602 I'd assume it was the fan hub doing something janky, did you reuse it?

[@1986Hikaru]

Enhance make flex u1 psu too, i think the 7660B is better than the Silverstone one.

[@werewolfmoney6602]

@@kojetono5853 it wasn't the fan hub, I have been using the hub for about a year since this happened with no issues. The sata power cable itself burned up about 6 inches before the connection point, so I've gotta assume there was a short in the cable itself inside the rubber insulation. It was brand new, first time powering it up with the cable connected, and I didn't do anything to it that could have broken the cable inside or damaged the insulation and exposed the wire. It just comes back to Silverstone having shitty quality control standards, but try telling them that. They refused my RMA for something that was 100% their fault and could have potentially burned my whole house down. Never again. I buy Corsair PSUs now. They've got Johnnyguru working on their power supplies, and while I know you can't just blindly trust big companies, I trust Johnny.

[@802Garage]

Solid retrofit though! Makes sense to just remove anything extraneous you won't use and have a modern system inside. Switch to like a 3060 Ti and you'll basically have a 1080p beast machine.

[@an3k]

Maybe it always crashes in the menu because it's allowed to render as many fps as possible. That kind of behavior was killing dozens of 3080s and 3090s in that Open World Amazon game I can't remember. You can try limiting the fps using RTSS to eg. 120 fps and without the power limit set to 26 %. Then if that works and you are actually in the game, you could disable the fps limiter using a hotkey (Afterburner settings) and see the whole system slowly melt into a single blob of magic goo.

[@quentinduch1625]

4:59 Love that classic Top Gear reference

[@dickeyseamus]

The fan on that thing is as thick as it is wide! Good to know about the Cybernetics rating too, thanks for that!

[@Al3ksandrOrlov]

Dawid, nobody else makes tech stuff quite like you, thanks for the excellent content as always

[@yogibear2k220]

Every time I watch a Dawid Breaks Tech video followed by a Dawid Mends Tech video, I always think I am watching a mad scientist rather than a PC builder.

[@fred_derf]

Where did you get the strange idea that Dawid was a PC Builder?

[@BoykaTheRonin]

But Dawid that power supply is only 600W :( btw my name is Gary.

[@The117th]

I saw this coming and im not surprised congrats for getting it running again though!

[@koonzipher4692]

takes mad skill to turn a 3080 ti build into a grade A dumpster fire. Love the content

[@raven4k998]

Look at it Look at it

[@Zerbey]

Wrestling new components into proprietary cases is always fun, I've done it a few times now. It's oddly satisfying when you get the thing working.

[@the_beefy1986]

Looks like you need a 3D-printed shroud to direct the CPU airflow out the gap where the stock heatsink was originally positioned.

[@bud6961]

I used to work at Fry's Computer Repair department and we had one of those come in. It had a 1080 (not sure if TI) with a 650w psu and the costumer was wondering why it would shut off when he loaded some games. He was lucky it didn't fry the other parts. Due to the form factor there wasn't much we could do so he had to go through MSI and i believe they installed the wrong PSU unit on that model. I was also shocked to see laptop ram in desktops around that time. It was normally used in low end, sub 300 dollar computers. It almost looked like they took a laptop they didn't sell, pulled out the MB and put it in a rejected case and sold it. People tried to upgrade them, but the motherboard lacked PCI slots, the power cables and heat sink were all proprietary, and the ram was sometimes soldered onto the MB so literally nothing was upgrade-able.

[@cessnacitation-x]

The 1080 has a recommended wattage of 500. so I'm not sure what you're talking about

[@kylemueller]

You should try adapting 2 molex to an 8-pin so the load is split between the daisy chain 8-pin and molex cables 😂

[@fleurdewin7958]

1 molex connector is rated to put out max 54Watts . Even with 2 molex connectors, there is not enough power to replace an 8-pin which is rated to do 150W per connector. A molex connector has only 1 cable for 12V rail. An 8pin PCI-e cable has 3 cables for 12V rail. In the worst scenario, the overheating cables can catch fire. That 3080Ti can pull over 300+Watts.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

That would make for a very interesting PC fire. 😂

[@dragos2010full1]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff i managed to melt a molex to pcie adapter just with the help of a old radeon 6950 2gb direct cu2 that thing is even bigger in size than that 3080ti you had LOOOL

[@TechIOwn]

My only PC fire was when the molex connector burnt out on a fairly new at the time Radeon 9800, and that was when cards and peripherals were actually powered off molex. Never trusted them since...

[@disposable_hero1725]

To make it work in that case, there should be a "Insert 20c" slot on top of the case, when you insert your money this will then make the system turn on for 30 seconds and you can ride it. I remember seeing these cases when I was a kid out side shopping centers next to candy machines.

[@someguyoninternet802]

Damn that case tho. Prebuilts today are made likes bricks

[@greenprotag]

Oh and also thank you for giving this build a chance. I did NOT know the PSU was going to be that much of a struggle. I am also sad about the original main board.

[@raven4k998]

it shows just how over design that pc case is when it has stuff that's not even used on it🤣

[@tadfibonacci4926]

I like how at the end of the video, he replaced all of the PC's main components lmao

[@justinedge5061]

Dawid you make the best funniest tech videos I ever seen man hope your channel keeps on growing man wish ya the best dawid

[@gameface6091]

Yes! I look at his subs and wounder how I can like in a universe where he isn't over 1million? C'mon people, we need Dawid to have the Gold Play Button!!!

[@IronwingTechHaven]

Dawid has far exceeded Linus when it comes to comedy. I bet Dawid could even do a successful standup act about PCs.

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

Totally NOT funny ! I think it is just sad !

[@IronwingTechHaven]

@@gertjanvandermeij4265 why sad? Does someone need hugs?

[@capralmarines4043]

@@gertjanvandermeij4265 You know what pal, I will do you a favor and look for who ever asked.

[@martmeister]

talk about commitment and following through...WOW.

[@CrayCRussain]

I don't know what was more entertaining... The video or the amount of work Dawid put into making the video. Great job man!

[@CarbonPanther]

Dawid is about to become KZbin's deep investigate Hardware Power guru, and i'm all for it! Now he just needs to figure out that 6950XT from earlier... But seriously toying around with efficiency, powerlimits and undervolting is super interesting and should be touched on more often!

[@theholyberserker]

You ran into a lot of trouble to fine tune this Frankenstein's monster of a computer... Great vid !

[@rpgmaniac420]

I learnt something new, didnt know the cybernetics badge might be a better indicator of safety than 80 plus. thanks for that!

[@punkshoo]

Great video, Dawid! I do wonder if you were to draw power from another PSU lane (SATA/MOLEX?) and use a 120MM AIO (would be fun to watch you rig that up top) if you could actually get some better performance out of it. Regardless, fun video and thanks for making great content!

[@codygrinnell8676]

You should make this a series!! Seeing how powerful of a Flex psu you can get, and how much of the 3080ti you can use!!

[@therattrap1997]

15:12 Ouch... that really hurt man... it's happen to me when not warming up the cpu before changing CPU Cooler... also fear that Pin will bent like that tho

[@rustler08]

If you pull straight up, it's damn near impossible to bend a pin. Its when you try pulling at an angle or twisting that you'll have bent pin hell. So, try to put some downward pressure when you're twisting the cooler to free it. MX-5 thermal paste is like glue and is always monstrous to disengage, heat or not.

[@therattrap1997]

@@rustler08 oh... i'm just using Thermal grizzly... sometimes i'm using stock thermal paste that including with CPU Cooler

[@tylerconley5576]

Nice vid love to see you do something with that case But the original configuration actually wasn’t that bad

[@papaglock6587]

1:47 noo please stop I’m offended!!! Great video Dawid 😂👍🏽

[@safedave9689]

what a start to a video. get it to run terribly even if it costs me a finger. what a legend

[@Agusito]

In just a few days dawid has become my favourite tech youtuber, awesome videos and sarcasm

[@rexdink]

Dawid's local tech recycling place have to just look on in awe at some of the stuff he brings in.

[@Orain88]

Oh man, Dawid, with some proper gpu undervolt tuning, I bet you could make this system work excellently.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

That’s true! Although to be fair, any reasonable CPU pairing would still catch on fire unfortunately. 😞

[@Orain88]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff ah right, I was forgetting the cpu and kitchen cupboard case limitations. I've just been amazed by how well ampere undervolts and I don't see it discussed much. With my 3070 I can get higher benchmarks and performance with an undervolted overclock than the stock config. And for about 10% less performance, I can tune it to draw about half to 60% of the full wattage. Great content man 👍

[@Dennzer1]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff I still cant get over how that motherboard had not only 2 M.2 drives, they were on the back of the tiny dead mobo, and they were different brands.

[@zetectic7968]

This project is a masochists delight 😁 Bravo Dawid for sticking it out 👍

[@badhusband1902]

1u psu is super fun, built several htpcs with em. The enhance 7660b is amazing (the silverstone one you are using is probably a re-brand of it).

[@gaminglowspecs]

Cool! A lot of knowledge in this video, very interesting experiments we have here. The most relevant thing for me was the Ryzen 3600 doing bottleneck to the 3080Ti. I didn't expect that.

[@lunchie80]

The single pcie cable won't be an issue. There's 3 12v conductors each carrying less than 100w(PSU end) which is around 8A @12v. That's really not that much. Your car stereo (head unit) draws more than that (10A+) on the same sized conductor. It's because the 3080ti can have short term power spikes that are tripping the PSU. That's why when you click in the BF menu it was failing at less power level than when you slowly increased it in-game. There's something in that menu causing one of the short term spikes. You then exceeded the trip point in game(long term power plus spikes) at 60%+, but it wouldn't get out of the BF menu at that level (tripped at 60% in menu, could game at near 75% if increased after whatever causes the spike in menu) It wasn't the cable (in fact GN actually tested power over a single split 8 pin in one of their videos and needed to draw crazy power to cause an issue on a big PSU. Even with a crappy extension added)

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Yes, the 3090 also has big short term power spikes. I had it paired with a 700W 80 Plus Platinum rated PSU and that would still trip. Put a 1200W in for good measure. Also, consider the PSU rails. If you have multiple, you can split the components across them. I think FlexPSUs just have a single rail, so also not ideal.

[@danielq250]

"Explode under load" 🤣 god I love your content David ! 😆

[@Sundayinthelife]

Thank you for your service, Dawid.

[@Poifix]

The amount of effort put into this video. 👍🏼

[@Enakaji]

I actually somewhat like the design of that case. I wonder if you could turn it into a "useful" system with something like a 5700g on that ITX board and maybe an AIO as the cooler with the Rad beeing externally mounted.

[@justurboi3806]

Uploaded at the perfect time lol (after work). Thanks!

[@barackhusseinobamaii3303]

Watching the sponsor segment while in the comment setion, making dawod money and boostinf the video, now that's peak productivity (also like and sub)

[@Iceheart721]

This video brought back memories I've had suppressed for decades from my first PC like ptsd. My first ever pc was a Dell back in the 90s. Pentium 4 powered for those that remember that old tank of a single core processor. As I was getting into gaming it became its baked in graphics just wasn't enough. But it did have an open slot for AGC? I honestly can't what the old slot was called before PCI. So we picked up a radeon graphics card. Keep in mind this was before Amazon, and there weren't really any pc hardware stores around so taking a week or two for parts was the norm, keep this in mind. At the time would have made about the most powerful gaming combo for the time. I was so excited. Only to find out, there wasn't a plug for it off the factory psu. Not a big deal we ordered a new psu. After it arrived we went to install it to find that dell had proprietary connections on the Mobo. They literally were switching wires around and we likely had fried it. But reguardless, that meant we now needed to order a new mobo. Went to install it and wouldn't you know it both the factory cooler and the case mounts were proprietary. In the end what we thought was going to be a graphics card installation turned into literally months of ordering and then waiting on parts which resulted in an almost entirely new PC that could only repurpose the Ram, HDD, and disc drive. Which of course in the era of PCs literally moving leaps and bounds was already no longer the top of the line powerhouse we had hoped and was completely outdated by dual core processors a year or so later. Such is life.

[@terminaljunk]

Just over 6 minutes in and the phrase "Trigger's broom" is very much in my head.

[@mix3ry199]

The PSU standard you say is "proprietary" is not. In Europe, for example, OEM manufacturers have to use the "ATX 12VO" standard, which is more modern than the current PSU standard (24Pin) we use for custom PCs. Also they can be smaller and are way more efficent than current PSU´s. I would say that this newer standard will also make its way into custom PCs in the next 1-2 years.

[@oristechreviews]

I expected linoooooooodddddeeeeeeeee, very dissapointed in you Dawid.😢

[@heinzmuller1616]

Good old TopGear references, gotta love it

[@patricktrakzel9657]

Dawid, you know you can extract the pins from the smaller MSI plastic front panel connector and put the in a standard plastic connector. That would make so much more sense.

[@glitchtrap1987]

If you put a black screen and put this audio this time 5:01 it will sound something completely different

[@sanidhyakumar5816]

bye in the end was so good

[@byronlefevre8266]

Glad youre starting to get sponsors like be quiet thats pretty awesome.

[@K4hhny]

I died when Dawid moaned after getting his fingers stuck in the pc 😂

[@HoloScope]

Wow those Be Quiet AIO's are sick! It has a frkn fill port!

[@alignedgames]

Dawid antwoord die vrae wat niemand vra nie :) Ons held!

[@LostHope...]

okay but those hidden hot swappable hard drive caddy's were actually pretty cool.

[@dbradford32]

I would love to see you actually modify this case... It's such a sweet little case

[@gamingtalent2888]

9:51 hopefully we dont cause some "silicon fusion" today or "silly confusion" today good one😂

[@JoseMariArceta]

I think it has to do with power spikes vs low capacity caps to absorb the spike due to the limited size of the flex PSU since full load is probably under 400watts for the system when gaming at 75% power limit. Recent nvidia and amd gpus have momentary spikes to about double their tdps

[@wayland7150]

I'm pretty sure it's just the single PCIe cable. I expect if there was a molex on that PSU it could be adapted to run the other PCIe connector.

[@JoseMariArceta]

@@wayland7150 you would be surprised at how much you can power through a single cable (I gpu mine) its the power spikes and since it was only one pcie cable out of the psu it probably was not expecting and was designed for 300w+ tdp gpus

[@nickkk420]

Wonder if a 3d printed directional shroud for the cpu cooler would help

[@nonametito2599]

Great video. The new PSU was amazing.

[@cppctek]

3D print a shroud for the cpu fan to fix the thermals on it. Or make one out of cardboard and foil tape and cover the foil tape with clear tape so it doesn’t short anything

[@sykoteddy]

That thing, with the CPU getting so stuck to the cooler happened to my Ryzen 5 5600G as well. I was so scared it had destroyed the mounting mecanism or the CPU but it was working well still.

[@shephusted2714]

the use of proprietary parts is almost unforgivable and subject to permanent banishment from the hall of computer justice

[@Wunnabeanbag]

Thanks dawid. Your videos are great entertainment for us tinkering geeks out here

[@zadekeys2194]

Nice video! Thank you ! Re your thermal paste application - use the X method. Pugeut systems, Cisco and I think AMD all recommend this and the former has done for for around 10years.

[@dakotamcclure6165]

You should build this case with all of the best stuff

[@travisdonotsuscribegototjs9323]

i mean follow the leads of the old font i/o and cut the old connection solder new leads to the appropriate io, the case is pretty neat to reuse and repurpose instead of going to Ewaste hell

[@an3k]

In todays episode you can witness Dawid creating an so-called "Elephant's Foot".

[@aquanos]

This is super cool! The next thing I want to see you do is destroy the internals of the case and make it actually decent for thermals and get that 850w power supply for MAXIMUM POWER!

[@frodosgaming5884]

If you wanted to continue this you could try using one of the 1200watt server grade flex power supply's

[@DSSteve]

The inside of the pc Reminds me strongly of most dell desktops these days with weird power connectors and over engineered spots to put things like the hardrives

[@SibirLupus]

Dayum!! What a mess with that custom case O_o. Makes my Asus G20 case look like an engineering dream by comparison XD.

[@FEBEAULIEU]

You are a more patient man than I am! Cheers

[@All_I_can_say_is_Wow]

The thing about power....If they won't allow you to take away enough power on the slider, lowering the clock does everything. Lower temp, less power draw, and lower voltages too. Mostly only need to do something like that if you want to lower the temp/power. It's pretty impressive how much high end GPUs can do even with lower clocks.

[@konrad999999]

Great video! I am running a shoebox pc with a 5600x and a 3060ti with a 500w flex psu, and it runs perfect all day long but was curious what would happen if I upgraded the video card. Well, now I know, can't go to a 3080

[@fred_derf]

Any decent power supply will simply shut down if you attempt to draw too much power from it, not explode and kill the motherboard… So you should be fine trying the 3080 and see how it goes before upgrading the PS. Note: Make sure you have a way to measure the input amperage (wattage), then multiply by 0.8 to determine how much power is actually being produced during your testing. Note 2: nVidia recommends using a (minimum) 750 watt power supply with a 3080, so you'll probably need a more capable power supply.

[@andersbonielsen9104]

I love that Dawid got to do the cables and not Anna, Anna got the small hands and Dawid got the big manly hands so a few bruises and some skuffs

[@JowyyKazza]

Another fun video, thanks!

[@talos86]

You can just repin the cases front panel connector to a standard one. Done thins few times with HP Slimeline machines.

[@TrueDiox]

That big boy Ryzen cooler on that tiny motherboard and in that tiny case is weirdly satisfying to see.

[@truth6191]

I recognise the mobo from your ikea desk pc build

[@shaddow_24]

you should see if a gt 710 can kill an old prebuilt with a 240-250w stock psu.

[@Keither754]

Yes I would love to see that lol

[@sherizaahd]

the character's shadow at the end was doing all kinds of crazy stuff, but the rifle in his view was kind of stationary, very weird.

[@4RT1LL3RY]

The issue is that with high fps swings Ampere has really bad transient spikes, like 3x the normal power draw for a couple milliseconds. And small fort factor PSUs don't have enough capacitance to handle the wild swing. Some of the ATX 80+ Titanium PSUs have the same issue because part of getting efficiency up is reducing the amount of capacitance. Adding in a frame rate cap to reduce how large the FPS swings are going into menus helps a lot.

[@danielfisher1515]

This is super ridiculous and impractical. I love it! ❤

[@ashberic]

Had the EXACT same issue with my new 3080 Ti and my Seasonic Focus Plus 750W. Protip: being a savage would've (probably) helped. I was having issues even at 50% with RDR2 (had issues just loading into a game) but undervolting to 0.80v let me play fine until I got my Leadex Titanium.

[@capralmarines4043]

pog

[@kyzer6666]

Look at it.... LOOK AT IT!!... channeling the best Invader Zim there Dawid.

[@malibu8049]

15:15 "OOOOWWWWOOOOO"

[@QoraxAudio]

6:04 No, the next step is checking if the adapter cable you used actually has the correct pinout. It's actually quite common for obscure ATX adapter cables to be wired incorrectly...

[@maxlimited]

hmmm interesting.... are you somehow curious which part is really fried in the msi motherboard? I'm also curious.... I hope you'd use a microscope or magnifier to check an actual burnt pcb trace and also, you can try using a pen trace ink for repair.

[@EXOWill]

You missed a perfect opportunity to place a waste barrel at the end of the workbench and one arm sweep it in.

[@exactinmidget92]

Wouldn't be surprised if those hidden bays become not hidden with the "premium" version of this case.