i finally got the rarest vigilante achievement in town of salem...

[@Jdrunnin]

The real rarest vigi achievement is the friends you make along the way, and by that I mean the towns that vote you out

[@batgames8933]

Nah, the rarest vig achievement is shooting the mayor

[@Moleoflands]

You mean the sussy townies you shot by mistake

[@jaminmccurley]

My names Rick astly and I approve this message

[@jumnei5159]

Or the second vig that shoots you

[@batgames8933]

@@jumnei5159 can't forget about that one. Does dying as a vig and the necro getting confirmed as vig by using you count?

[@KarmaKins]

I feel so bad for 1 he and Pipe carried the town just for Vamps to drag him down with them qq

[@jumnei5159]

That's why everyone hates vamps.

[@claiminglight]

@@jumnei5159 I don't understand why vamps are in the game. You can spend the whole game carefully dismanting the opposition just to have one guy drag you onto the team you helped destroy at the last minute. It's almost like you shouldn't try if there are vamps in, because you'd only be weakening your future teammates.

[@Warpzel65]

@@claiminglight And the only way they could find to balance it is to make a role that hardcounters the role. Thats telling by itself

[@10thletter40]

1 looked heartbroken dude. He got really lucky and also played an excellent towny game by finding mafs and then got converted. It sucks he threw but we can all understand why. He also was on the same wavelength as pipe, said the same thing about 10 being confirmed. He probably already assumed the VH figured it out along with Pipe. Those are my thoughts on the matter

[@josephbolton5893]

I mean, when it was pipe, vh, and 1 left there is nothing that 1 could do to win. Even if he could convince 10 to hang pipe a vampire cannot kill a VH.

[@ordalca2939]

Honestly, he didn't throw. His ONLY path to victory was convincing Pipe to throw and get converted after hanging VH. Even if Pipe got hung instead, it's 1v1 vamp vs VH, which is VH win. Maybe they win if no one hangs, but VH would know that only the vamp doesn't vote there.

[@lyaneris]

VH just needed to vote out one of them (stake the other), so I wouldn't even consider it a throw.

[@SebHaarfagre]

But the "VH" wasn't VH lol. Am I going crazy?!? It feels like I'm being gaslit to believe he is. But he isn't and he didn't do _anything._ I think he was doc? Either that or the most useless VH. I'm finding it _extremely_ weird how nobody found him sus and it's down to pure luck IMO that it wasn't 10 that was vamp and vamps won. Edit: NVM he was VH.

[@glaive120]

I dont think vampire hunter loses even if its 2 vamp vs 1 hunter right? Pipe wouldve had to vote 11 for them to win which wasnt going to happen.

[@MayFleet]

That moment when the Vigi kills more vamps than the VH lol

[@Dragon_ait]

They literally outted themselves as vamps once vh finally landed a kill... That's such a pain + it was a 3 vamp start

[@LAZERAK47V2]

NK roles: *exist* Surv claimers: "Oh boy, there I go getting lynched again!"

[@apertioopening3425]

PipeTron, congratulations on obtaining that rare achievement in Town of Salem! Your dedication and skill in the game is truly admirable. Keep up the great work!

[@well8250]

to be fair town was guaranteed win at the end cuz VH just cant die to vamps, i think, tho you may have lost being bit

[@stevencampbell348]

Technically they weren’t guaranteed win, had VH staked Pipe again instead of 12 they could’ve stalled it another day and then bit Pipe to make it a 2v1 and then they vote out the vh

[@twilightwisdom5139]

Vamp could have talked pipe into converting so more people won and had pipe lynch vh with them but that was it.

[@Moleoflands]

​@@twilightwisdom5139 but it is Gamethrowing for a townie to do that

[@jimmythornseed8605]

Against the rules for town to side with vamps. Throwing like that is bannable

[@Deathwing21]

@@jimmythornseed8605 🤓☝ umm Thats actually bannable!

[@otrof6203]

in that spy defense, not posting until esc/cons claims to rb 11 and then confirm he is cons is decent enough since if he did post cons would never claim escort

[@burningfox4974]

Yeah waiting on that is good, but he should’ve posted as soon as he saw esc claim. They waited till they where focused on.

[@bartudundar3193]

@@burningfox4974 I would have probably shot them because they didn't post anything the day afterwards. When wills from TIs suddenly stop coming in Vamp games, its an automatic KILL trigger for me.

[@KAMUPhobies]

the jester stayed around since his death on n1 just to say the jailor was a nerd, good job mimyuu, ur mother mustve been very proud

[@ChouhouinNeko]

can we say pipe was so distracted he didn't see that Giles Corey was NOT Evil for once!

[@torturapesnorrarape]

Feelsbadman 1 , this is why vamps are the most frustrating to go against, they always take you down with them no matter how well you played, nice shots.

[@raptormaster666]

Must have been 2 vamps at the start to have that many at the end, congrats on the achieve.

[@solidmoon8266]

With the way they were going. It couldve been a rare 3 vamp game.

[@imrqa]

Pausing the video at 3:40, but I just want to say now that I think 12 not posting as spy immediately is the BEST thing you can do as spy. If 3 truly is consort, they never would have admitted to RB'ing 11. Not instantly revealing there is a spy leads mafia into making mistakes like that, and I genuinely think that type of play as spy should be used more often (honestly annoys me it isn't).

[@Moleoflands]

Whilst fair, that doesn't mean people should trust you

[@imrqa]

@@Moleoflands Just gotta be trustable/town in other ways besides insta posting, but I guess I just have my style of play already down.

[@danas5846]

i agree with you, i've been outed like this before as consort/consig/pmer and it's a smart town play

[@Kronosfobi]

Once we had a 2 hypno game, I was one of the hypnotist's. Our Godfather claimed transporter and we'd ''transport'' his targets. Spy didnt reveal till d3, blew out our entire cover. Got hung because nobody trusted the lad but afterwards it was pretty straightforward. They hung GF the next day, Invests dropped the rest of us like flies.

[@glaive120]

My thoughts exactly, even if the meta is spy reveal instantly, using spy to cc a consort or consig is more powerful imo. He not only outed consort but the forger as well. Even if he dies they know escort is fake.

[@MasonSeamancer]

Next video is the 1000 video on channel, gotta be some crazy rare achievement to celebrate

[@insertsarcasm]

The fact that that VH was real was genuinely surprising to me

[@tishabyte]

"The cleaned nerd was jailor" LMAO

[@airmanon7213]

Congratulations on the win, Pipe!

[@DracoHC]

When Pipe uploads at a time I have freetime. I'm instantly watching

[@phil880]

When PIpe uploads im instantly watching

[@Czesnek]

I am watching Pipe when I get to work.

[@phil880]

@PipeTron0 seek help

[@toddseligmann2982]

Congrats on the win bud!

[@kikagezumi]

I'm surprised he didn't shoot 12 earlier, since he only posted will once that I saw.

[@Raisuu]

The VH really didn't stake anyone with so many Vamps around till later lmao rip

[@SebHaarfagre]

I was 100% certain he was not VH and they won just cause of pure luck, so I'm amazed this is the first comment I see mentioning that (and my like is the first one)

[@TheNorfAndOnly]

Vamp games are perfect for sinking all of your bullets without dying, wow

[@solidmoon8266]

I wouldn't call that a throw. 1 knew the jig was up since they couldn't convert that night and 7 called 1 out for not voting 12 and stalling.

[@headempty8642]

this is why I hate the vampire role. I will carry town the whole game just to be converted and lose a town win :/

[@DiakronYT]

Finally cleaned myself as jani.

[@derpigun1316]

I still have yet to get my first vigi win. My luck stat is inverted when playing this and I always die before I shoot a correct person.

[@antwanterrl3307]

7:13 time Pipe says “I don’t trust 1” then at 7:42 he says “get 2 there is no reason not to trust 1” like what lmaoooo

[@antwanterrl3307]

I guess idk math was adding had a change of heart

[@antwanterrl3307]

No way at 11:13 “See I don’t trust 1” lmaooo

[@HydraWerewolf]

On day 7, the vampires coudnt have win even if 1 didnt throw. The onlt way for vampires to win was for the town to vote their own confirmed vh. So basically unwinnable

[@shadowkahn9415]

GG Great video as always :) - Brim

[@coppercrow9087]

I actually got this achievement in a TT game, and shot 3 coven members. Small problem, I killed the last coven on the night the Jailor executed the second to last coven. We lost that game because of that. I got yelled at…

[@mrtopher7485]

How can you get this achievement and lose

[@coppercrow9087]

@@mrtopher7485 Timer. TT stayed hidden.

[@arandomgamerrr]

i keep finding your videos earlier and earlier lol

[@chefboyardee1148]

Ain't no way frickin Mimyuu was in that first game. Trust me you guys are lucky they died first

[@GeeGeezy]

Not a throw, VH just needed to either of you two and stake the remaining one. And if the vamp didn't vote its obvs who they were

[@kitthekat6844]

Poor 1, he did a great job and lost because of the bite. Can you really call it gamethrow to side vamp as townie in such a scenario? I would've let 1 win, Pipe and them both earned that game

[@SebHaarfagre]

3:53 Vamp is killed by Mafioso, jailor says "I had to kill them". Why tf is the jailor framing himself as mafioso?!?

[@ClemFwhe]

Bonk

[@cloakedcarp]

So what’s like the rule for it being considered throwing? Because I had a mayor game where I intentionally got turned because it was the only way I could win is that still game throwing? I don’t know because she the vet that had stayed not bit says they reported me and said some very not nice things

[@KyXnline]

11:31 bro I'm calling it rn this spy is extremely fake how is he still alive!

[@cooldrools6360]

I’m so confused at 9:50

[@ununicorniocon2gbderam787]

3 am uploads

[@pyye3379]

fax

[@10thletter40]

Oh seriously? Sweet nice to see someone from... Uh. Braziillll?

[@ununicorniocon2gbderam787]

Almost there, im from Uruguay

[@10thletter40]

@@ununicorniocon2gbderam787 Ah well tried my best, very cool though

[@nicholas930]

Potato

[@FishyJ]

4 town win lol

[@aj_style1745]

Last Edit: Not last anymore

[@Vestige_]

HAHAHHHA, YOU FOOL! I AM THE LAST ONE HERE! for now, at least.

[@shadowyct]

nah me

[@aj_style1745]

This bot reply really tempted me to just delete this entire comment.

[@Vestige_]

@@aj_style1745 welp

[@glisteningicosa]

Woooo

[@Mech3001]

999th vid

[@jeraldscarlet9493]

Discord Noti Gang

[@lucker1996]

When mafioso or GF dies, it's worth saying publicly the number you're shooting that is an escort claim. If it's real escort, you'll be roleblocked. If it's consort, high chance is they're turned mafioso. The only rare scenarios it won't work is if both GF and mafioso or two consorts are in game. Or CL, otherwise you will guarantee you won't shoot a townie.

[@princessatellaluma]

can you explain this a lil more i think this strat seems interesting

[@lucker1996]

@@princessatellaluma When mafia needs to have a member promoted into mafioso due to lack of mafia killing, consort takes the priority. It means that when an original mafia killing dies, you may think that promotion took place and you can publicly announce that you're shooting an escort claim since consort commonly claims escort and could have turned mafioso and asking to be roleblocked by the escort claim that you're shooting. Since mafia has no roleblocking power (if their only consort turned mafioso), they can't prevent their member from being shot. The real escort (contrary to consort) will never lose the roleblocking ability to prevent you from shooting, unless turned into vampire which is not bad too shoot after all. There are also other unlikely but possible scenarios, that sometimes may make evils take advantage of your public claim, such as GA protection, Coven abilities, basic defense, but this is rare and more often you help town by calling the shot than trying to surprise since you're usually faced with escort-consort scenario. Let me know if you want those unlikely scenarios explained though.

[@burningfox4974]

@@lucker1996 downside is if town, you basically lose 2 night abilities (Esc and Vigi), but you trade that for information (which is important for vig since they don’t want to just shoot blindly anyways).

[@lucker1996]

@@burningfox4974 You've got a point. This strategy should be limited to situations where the vig has a suspicion that the escort claim is not real.

[@wollowollo1]

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[@acodyne]

Pipe is based???

[@roguehellothere5334]

I got popular target but did fully get the achievement and the system glitched so I never got a forum account because it glitched I can show screen shots to you or a mod I tried to make a account but it hasn't worked idc enough about the achievement rn but I need help spreading the word to others and it getting fixed.

[@roguehellothere5334]

@PipeTron0 I know your a scammer try someone who is smarter so you still can't fake people out

[@Waffl3B1T]

Early gang!!

[@MKAyyyju]

Please play Traitor in salem again!

[@jasperwildlifeassociation5828]

If vh didn’t vote up vamp and got bite converted cuz he wanted to be only winner, it’s not a throw is it?

[@SebHaarfagre]

VH can't become Vamp, I'm pretty certain.

[@Moleoflands]

Vh can't be bit A vig not trying to win as town is Gamethrowing

[@speedup2784]

Bro these 2 dudes dont understand. Ok so what jasper wanted to say is "Is VH throwing if they didn't vote 1, knowing vh wins anyways just to get solo vh win?" And to answer this: yes, it is a throw.

[@Archetype2k]

@@speedup2784 W reply

[@chrjsnt]

First

[@ClemFwhe]

Second*

[@Big-MenINC]

Nice

[@Person-named-Fai]

Bonk