I Ghosted My Fiancee after she asked for a 'open relationship' Before Marriage.

I Ghosted My Fiancee after she asked for a 'open relationship' Before Marriage.
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[@ill_steal_your_pbj7363]

Let me get this straight; she wanted an open relationship, and her reasoning is “I feel like you’re gonna cheat and it’s gonna ruin our relationship, so let me cheat right now so you don’t later.” Devious work right there

[@mohamohai3932]

Wow, just reading these stuff is really hard so I can't imagine how hard ppl have it in the west

[@WeebRemover4500]

@@mohamohai3932 my dude, the west has spread very far. japan is good example, its worse then the west, infidelity is 80% in japan where its about 50% in USA i think same moment someone asks for open relationship, then the conversation is over. they have desired someone else than you and they broke the commitment, not only did they fantasize about it but they felt it was reasonable

[@mohamohai3932]

@@WeebRemover4500 you're right

[@angeloliver7613]

How is asking for an open relationship the same like cheating? It's okay to separate over that topic, but don't act like it's cheating.

[@WeebRemover4500]

@@angeloliver7613 i hope youre single, you will never acknowledge your wrongs

[@notinspect]

OP: Confronting the person that changed his life forever. Paul, literally in the other room: Rizzing

[@Genburthing]

>Helps his friend >Goes with friend to talk with his ex >Rizz Girls meanwhile friend talk with his ex >Leaves Truly Gigachad Grindset

[@lemone630]

Bro is just that guy

[@josephcool981]

I laughed so hard at the part where paul told him about the job and said "its a bitch position, but its still a good opportunity to prove yourself" Thats a real friend right there, straight up telling your boy that the job sucks but will look good on him later 😂

[@WhiteDeath2002]

I love Paul

[@Mischa21xo]

Rizzing isn't even an actual word, lol, but okay...Parrot speak for idiots I suppose

[@thetactician2787]

Remember fellas that if you’re not good enough for a girl you’re good enough for Paul.

[@CHADFUTUREHAN]

Best homie ever

[@bekleedee]

I imagined Paul looking like Paul Rudd for some reason 😆

[@wocgachalife7236]

“If you can’t find a date, try your homie” - some random person on the internet

[@Lt_Koro]

@@wocgachalife7236 and always remember. its not gay as long you say no homo

[@realSerran]

Based and redPauled

[@VeganLatte]

Paul is the kind of friend we all need

[@sacredseraphim3987]

Was gonna say that everyone should have a Paul in their life.

[@Bushido_Brown.]

Paul is the reason this all happened.

[@bryantguevara183]

​@@Bushido_Brown.Paul is a canon event in OP's life.

[@Big_Boss194]

Paul is johnny cage

[@thetrollman6596]

​@@Big_Boss194was just about to say that

[@stopcensoringmen5044]

Who wants to bet with me that the 'friend', Tammy, was a jealous snake who put those ideas into Jenn's head to make her insecure?

[@ianmoritzplatapino3684]

Even if she did Jenn was stupid enough to comply and follow her advise. So It doesn't matter

[@Smiley957]

It wasn’t a friend, it was a cousin.

[@bazyl3357]

@@ianmoritzplatapino3684 Jenn was stupid enough to get back with OP after he was done whoring around.

[@sovereignreaper1955]

its the same as the saying " if your friend tell you to jump off a bridge will you just do it", even if tammy was a toxic person his to have been wife is the one who jumped on her own accord. if tammy really was like that his ex should have been aware enough to tell her to stop or remove her from her life if she continued after warnings.

[@ANAHlTA]

Either way, Jen shouldn’t have listened.

[@TheGreyParse]

Asking your fiance for permission to cheat because you're insecure about difference between the number of partners you've had is top tier bullshit.

[@fredericksaxton9782]

Just to clarify, whe she was doing is cheating, but *CONSENSUAL* open relationships are factually not cheating. You can't "ask for permission" to cheat. If it's allowed, it's not cheating. Cheating is, by definition, "Without one's knowledge".

[@redcell9636]

Hold on now; Body Count *Does Matter* between both partners. It does infact diminish your ability to pair-bond. More so in women than men. That being sad, it is not a direct indicator of the propensity for infidelity. However her concerns about the inability to satisfy in the bedroom are the same as if she was the one with the high body count. That being said, wanting to open the relationship for the soul reason you _think_ they will cheat is a whole different story.

[@MrMonnTM]

@@fredericksaxton9782 But she was intending to cheat with someone did she not? HE clearly stated that he refuses but she did it behind his back with setting up the meeting.

[@SillyRamen]

@@MrMonnTMThey’re clarifying that a consensual open relationship is not cheating referring to how the comment said “permission to cheat”. They know when she did it anyways it was cheating because she didn’t have permission. An open relationship is not cheating. What she did was. That’s what they were saying. They weren’t saying she didn’t cheat

[@MrMonnTM]

@@SillyRamen I kinda of understood that but needed to clarify this. I am a fiery advocate against infidelity in almost any kind. (The only time i approve of it is when a person is forced physically and through influence by someone more powerful than them to marry them or be with them and in order to escape this nightmare they cheat but that's 1% at best maybe even 0.5% or less). I'm a guy and I would no resort to cheating or any of the bs about open relationship or that mens infidelity is only physical while womans is also emotional. I don't give a crap, both are to be held to the same scrutiny. FYI i wasn't cheated on (to my knowledge) but had plenty of experience seeing it all around me. The devastation of cheating is something incomprehensible, If someone thinks they are only influencing their partner they are dead wrong and innocent bystanders who are close to cheaters are also taken in as casualties. The saddest part that in many places despite infidelity cheaters can roam without any sanctions imposed on them which wasn't the case 1 century ago.

[@kyleray9101]

Paul has main character energy, I need his story

[@CherryGryffon]

This for sure

[@corentin8634]

No, Paul has the cool mentor side character energy

[@JPD1990]

Paul is like to OP like jiraiya is to naruto hahaha

[@Olimar92]

Especially when they were in Japan and he had a drunk fight with a monkey.

[@claireharrington4352]

​@@JPD1990 Someone call in pain.

[@jmmh2472]

Some people seem to enjoy creating unnecessary drama and living through it

[@khealer]

They take guidance from reddit. That can never end well!

[@whyplaypiano2844]

Do you understand how many teen romance movies or disney movies are glorified in media? No shit! Drama sells, and people want perfect partners. You're going to get drama.

[@ThomasAndy-qu8dp]

I thought it was an exaggeration but there are people will create a problem and present themselves as a solution. Was there a problem to begin with no ? No. But they create one anyway. It's crazy.

[@theboss7930]

Damn Paul is a real W, every time OP talked about him I cracked up😂😂😂

[@MaryAX]

"Delights of the Orient" 💀

[@terminal.spyinx]

?

[@FlipTheBard]

I'm of the mind that, if your SO asks for an open relationship...you can be damn sure that they've already cheated on you or are currently cheating on you. No one asks that "out of nowhere", they only do so because they feel a bit guilty for being POSs and cheating on their own SOs, so they try to assuage part of that guilt by trying to influence their SOs into an open marriage so what they're doing now/did "won't be considered cheating".

[@BERKE-no1ds]

That's one thing, she also tried to cheat when the dude refused her proposal of OM, which multiplies the betrayal.

[@QueenMizu]

Eh I'd have to disagree. Yea a lot of the time the person asking already has someone in mind but that's not every/all the time. Some people do just want to experiment 🤷‍♀️

[@Lichor2369]

@@QueenMizu Still that's something that should come up BEFORE a relationship not before MARRIAGE.

[@QueenMizu]

@@Lichor2369 if it's not something you was interested in before you can't really bring it up prior. Any and everyone is allowed to change their minds about the way they want to live their lives but they can't expect others to just be ok with that change. Actions also have consequences. This is said consequence 🤷‍♀️.

[@Babidi111]

@@Lichor2369 I don't think I've heard of a story of the open marriage thing where the girl didn't have a person in mind. I'm sure girls who did that would disagree and want to imagine that somewhere at least in one instance a girl was legit "wanting to experiment". That makes no sense, you are marrying a person and its just them but they imagine that possibly maybe they would want to bang other people......nah that doesn't add up, they are all just cheaters are heart and don't want consequences.

[@Vikashar]

Ghosting is about as open as it gets

[@deusexmachina9776]

lost respect for OP when he said he and fiance dated other people - really out there wasting other people's time

[@yaxxydesu5776]

Finally, I feel like no one cares about it like it’s such an horrible thing to do 😭

[@wasabiingredient3171]

Exactly

[@distantdoll4974]

Felt the same way fr. He was also saying/agreeing with some really sexist and stupid ideologies. Was super surprised to see so many people on his side here

[@superstan2310]

Ah yes, how dare people date / have one night stands with others when not in any other relationship.

[@deusexmachina9776]

@@superstan2310 OP said ex wife was engaged to another man. it is immoral to marry someone when you have strong feelings for another person who you have known longer. so wasting time of the people they dated

[@oshinb7]

NEVER EVER EVER IN A THOUSAND YEARS RECONCILE WITH A CHEATER. It’s not just physical but spiritual too and the Implications in the Spirit are HUGE!!

[@firefox5714]

My motto is: If they have done it once, they can do it again.

[@nercksrule]

Nah bruh. Just treat her like a side piece.

[@oshinb7]

@@nercksrule if you want a curse to come into your life then sure go ahead.

[@saintlucia1596]

Yes you are right

[@iamintriguing]

​@@saintlucia1596saint Lucia 😂

[@conan2096]

fist fighting a snow monkey is now added to my bucket list alongside fighting a swan and canadian goose lol

[@popdar2129]

LOL why do i wanna correct you that in Canada it has become a thing to call geese murder cobras.....lol XD

[@DamienDemiGod]

Corba Chickens*

[@Homiloko2]

Monkeys are scary, dude. They are little balls of pure muscle. I've seen a video where they tore a person's face apart with their hands (it was a chimpanzee, but should be similar). Wouldn't touch one of those buggers with a stick.

[@popdar2129]

@@DamienDemiGod LOL true we do call them that as well

[@iamdragonkrys]

😂😂

[@yaxxydesu5776]

The facts that both of them got in relation ships while being in love with each others 😬😬 I really can’t like any of them moving forward bruh

[@T3n50r]

It's pretty normal to seek romantic relationships even if you're not completely over your ex. The main important thing is to be upfront and honest about it when involved with someone else while seeing whether or not emotions dissipate over time or not.

[@yaxxydesu5776]

@@T3n50r it is not normal but normalised, it’s different

[@marianogigahertz9212]

@@T3n50r Its not normal to start relationships with others knowing that you will never be able to love them, and they are just a way to pass the time until the true love returns That is basically manipulating the other person, that might really fall in love and want something serious, and the partner will always be unavailable He did it with tons of quick encounters She did it with some short relationships, although it seems her boyfriend/s knew about the ex, she might have mentioned him a lot

[@T3n50r]

@@marianogigahertz9212 I agree. In the end it's about honesty, right? Not pretending that whatever you got going is something that it's not.

[@marianogigahertz9212]

@@T3n50rThere are lots of people that have gone through stuff like this. And it not only shatters your heart and gives you trust issues, its also a massive waste of time After all, a decent relationship is an investment and a commitment. If your plans are to make it permanent, and the other person acts like it is, but knows that will never commit to it, and return to his/her original love as soon as possible, you are just wasting your time and feelings, even when you enjoy your relationship while it lasts. Time is not free, specially when you are young

[@App-8491]

paul is basically the only friend that you need

[@madambutterfly1997]

This is the epitome of delusional. Being friends with your ex and then dating other people with the expectation there your relationship with these other people are temporary and that you and your ex are definitely getting back together.🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@sonickles_]

I can’t be sure if she was already cheating before she asked to open the marriage or if she truly was insecure, but regardless I think this is super tragic because some communication could have fixed the problem.

[@yasminecastillo7507]

True, I felt like if he already had strong opinions about it, why did she continued with it. He already said that he didn't want that and yet she still did it. If they would of communicated after the argument, they wouldn't be in that situation.

[@olorin3815]

Communication would have fixed the problem eventually maybe but when she booked that hotel and lied to him about working its already done

[@devshashOG]

She planned on cheating while they were discussing opening the relationship secretly planning to sleep with someone behind his back. Do we really have to pretend that somehow she wouldn’t have cheated on the OP coz of her oh so pure conversation with the OP? Coz all cheaters say they did nothing lol

[@crowbarviking3890]

this was unfixable from the start. ever since she first considered an open relationship it was over.

[@salguodrolyat2594]

Females can't communicate💩, feminists claim that females can communicate.🤣

[@crimecartelshorts]

Paul is the real main character of this story

[@WereDictionary]

Paul is the MVP here. Get yourself a Paul if you can.

[@PhotoJeticPoet]

This is why sleeping around is a bad idea and when you have a good relationship you don't do damage by creating distance and sleeping around in the meantime. She was the last one wrong but they were both moving dumb the entire back and forth relationship.

[@kinosaga21]

Thing is, he slept around before they were in a relationship, she wanted to open a relationship. She already cheated and he wanted to settle down.

[@Homiloko2]

They weren't in a relationship, and she also had her partners in that timeframe. That's absolutely NO excuse to ask open the relationship or cheat after they got together. In fact, if they stayed together since high school she could still come up with another excuse to try to open the relationship later.

[@milkiesLoverboi69]

did u even watch the video lol

[@AECH_CH]

It never works... People that have adventurous sex lifes aren't the ones that are loyal usually - If you don't judge people by their past, you can't judge them at all and thus you lack information. So check into who you're investing your time and nerves before committing to a marriage.

[@PhotoJeticPoet]

@@AECH_CH via the reason I said sleeping around doesn't work

[@kinosaga21]

She wanted an open relationship? She already cheated

[@koresaliva]

She hadn't cheated yet at least physically. But it's very possible she started texting men after what he did

[@Made_In_Heavenn]

@@koresaliva nah, maybe she already did.

[@loneIyboy15]

@@koresaliva Definitely already did, and if you think otherwise, you're naïve. She's trickle-truthing the guy, and the only reason we don't know otherwise for a fact is because he bolted the instant he saw anything out of place.

[@koresaliva]

@@loneIyboy15 In the video it's said nothing had happened yet, the encounter at the hotel was the first time, hence why I mentioned physical cheating wasn't a thing yet. Though I'm not naive enough to believe both did incredibly wrong things

[@loneIyboy15]

@@koresaliva So? OP bolted the moment anything happened, and she's a liar. When they bring up "Open Relationships", they're already cheating. This isn't up for debate here, I'm just telling you what's up.

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

The conversation with the old man was the most old bro conversation I've ever heard in my life.

[@TheGamersRace]

Better call Saul? No no, better call Paul. 😏

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

They didn't wait for each other. If you "always knew we this was temporary and we'd eventually end back up together", how tf is this different from an open relationship except you're not calling it that? Who tf advised them that was a good idea? Either be together, or don't.

[@redcell9636]

The modern "se*ual" liberation movement and hedonism. It's plastered everywhere. Men and women have zero shame and are no longer selective enough in their partners. We have a society that active encourages carbal activities and relationships be transaction instead of constructive.

[@ulfenburg7539]

yeah i noticed that aswell and thought to myself these guys are far from the brightest bulb.

[@overdressed]

I think the same. If you always knew that you will end up together, why all this sleeping around.

[@shreyakumari5127]

If they love each other from childhood then why date other people and why have sex with other people.this type of situation never going to work anyway.

[@hollowmagnet5716]

he talked about how it was difficult to shorten the post and then goes on a rant about his move to japan

[@bazyl3357]

They already did the trial open relationship during the time when they did long distance, that was their biggest mistake. 1 year they couldn't last lmao, they shouldn't have gotten back together after that. If your opinion of your relationship is that it is pressure that controls you, what do you expect? Basically OP is no better.

[@Advark458]

True. While the girl did destroy everything with the open relationship and cheating, the op caused the rift to exist by sleeping around with so many women

[@booyah09]

This was a bad take. Most couples can't do a long distance relationship cause their needs aren't being met (and I'm not talking about sexual needs). They did nothing wrong by breaking up after the LDR. No one wants to sleep next to a pillow for a year lol.

[@booyah09]

​@xijingpooh5913 he caused a rift by sleeping with women when he was single? Sorry, but you must be a woman. This entire scenario was brought on by her insecurities that she could have went to therapy for. Fault is 100% hers.

[@bazyl3357]

@@booyah09 Oh please.. MOST people sleep next to a pillow and not just for 1 year. She shouldn't have went to therapy, what she should have done was date a different guy that didn't whore around so much. Fault for cheating is 100% the fault of the cheater, cheating is never ok, however OP deserves a woman who had a promiscuous past just like him.

[@Jesei1211]

@@booyah09They shouldn’t be couples if they can’t go a year without the physical part. LDR is hard but not impossible. The point you’re unintentionally making is that the physical affection of that person is so replaceable and unspecial that you can just look for someone else to fulfill it. Why be together at that point at all?

[@eshbansuleman9501]

I've read some comments. They are shiting on the girl for being bothered by this guy's body count? She is right to be bother but her approach is wrong

[@dustinhodges9987]

100%

[@skeetskeet7041]

“I got to sample the delights of the Orient” *…that’s gonna be a bit of a yikes from me dawg*

[@alwaysright3943]

Racist

[@MaryAX]

Anglos strike again

[@MegaChrisTerry]

I damn near vomited in my mouth at that part. Followed by "these weren't third world women" Sir, what the fuck.

[@tumultoustortellini]

It's just flavor text.

[@elseggs6504]

​@@MaryAX They got no other choice, their women are walruses in disguise

[@Io_Is_Here3]

Just hearing these stories gives me trust issues

[@mgntstr]

hearing these stories gives me solace

[@calebgrace4184]

You didn’t ghost her after she brought up opening the marriage; you ghosted her after she opened up the marriage all on her own. She gets what she gets

[@henriquefinger935]

Of all of the stories that didn't happen, this one happened the least.

[@georgidimitrov836]

Yeah, it does sound like a script concept. All the irrelevant details about his boss sound sus.

[@fruxo4218]

You know or you could just like, gain experience with your partner and be less insecure knowing they will always love you? holy fuck what a shocking statement i know.

[@knightsolaire8192]

I dont think it was about the experience... experience was just the easiest argument she could use to get what she wanted. And i think that when she noticed his experience she felt as if he was the more desirable one in the relationship... and that hurt her ego. And what she wanted was to basically get more people before the marriage to pat herself on the back and reinforce her belief that she is hot and desirable. People arent that stupid... if the stated goal does not match the solution... then it is very likely the goal is different than what was stated

[@fruxo4218]

@@knightsolaire8192 No it was not about the experience whatsoever, that's for anyone to see. If you love your partner, you don't have to feel the need or desire to fuck other people just to make yourself feel better. It's all about ego and wanting to make sure she feels hot and desirable because she sees that her boyfriend was very desired when they weren't together and girls flocked to him. It's all about ego for both of them in all honesty and either way I personally believe that relationship was doomed from the very start.

[@drjonesey5]

Yup, people use that excuse of gaining experience to just screw other people. They aren't man or woman enough to just say they lust for others which should be classified as a problem within themselves that needs fixing. Those people want to "try out" other human beings in bed because they want to, it has nothing to do with gaining experience. Sometimes specifically they want a certain person and just lying. I had 4 gfs I slept with before I met my wife, me and my wife has had way more bedroom time than the 4 gfs combined and it's much more fun and I gained more experience just with her. And it's not like I only did stuff 1 time per woman or something it was multiple. Things are just better when it's 1 person, long term. The insecure thing I feel really comes from society first and then the person you're with second. For example, many men fear revealing their size because society has preconceived ideas about that subjects which are false in my experience and many others. So they are insecure due to lingering pressure of societal ideas and then they have to worry about IF the woman thinks those thoughts too. There's some pressure on women too to know what to do, but it's not like men. That's why it's best both people are new to the experience or people just stop being foolish and adopting dumb ideals and be nice to your partner. Guide them, try stuff. This subject is not as complex as people make it out to be.

[@Attritionist]

Yeah having sex with your partner increases your experience in a way to pleasure him better, having sex with randoms increases your overall experience but not everyone likes the same stuff and you could just try different stuff to figure each other out with your partner to get better, really fucking stupid to fuck other people just to get experience

[@steven1671]

But it's not guaranteed that your partner will always love you. It happens all the time, people fall in love, then they fall out of love.

[@savannahmae3679]

I know this is not the point of this, I've only gone a couple minutes in, but I would love a job based in Tokyo where I could go visit other cities in asia, all expenses paid plus a salary. Sign me up

[@TheDevilEdo]

Obviously fake.

[@SkyEcho751]

Her claiming "Nothing happened" doesn't really matter. She intended to cheat on him when she booked the room, she intended to cheat when she lied about having extra work, she intended to cheat when she went up the elevator, and she only stopped when he literally screamed at her for attempting to cheat. Whether or not anything happened doesn't matter for such a thing, it's like with murder, sure if you don't kill anyone you didn't commit murder, but you can still be charged with conspiracy to commit murder.

[@esnatzea]

I believe wanting to open the relationship was her way of coping with him having a big number of partners, but still, you are choosing the partner the way they are, they can't change the past. Now, cheating is inexcusable.

[@iamdragonkrys]

He published all his chicks on his social, wrong, totally. He answered a question nobody in couple should ask😅. He is unfaithful from the beginning. It's a couple that won't work.

[@flamingrage100]

How is he unfaithful when he wasn’t with her in the first place. Also, shouldn’t she realize she shouldn’t ask question she couldn’t handle the answer to? It’s like a dude asking his girl was he the biggest and pestering her and gets butthurt when she says he wasn’t. Not her fault it’s his.

[@itachiravenn2671]

The middle finger after the thumbs up tells me all I need to know about Paul helluva bro

[@user-bj8rk4rj7w]

When he has urges to be with multiple women its quirky and a little cute but when she does he gets to act like a fucking psychopath

[@zengeki23]

I bet Paul trying to set up those 2 girls with him and Paul after the events unfold. Knowing Paul pulling that stunt with the boss.

[@tonisanich9243]

I wanna meet Paul. This man is hilarious.

[@dozydoe5245]

I'd be more sympathetic if he hadn't gone on a sex tour and called it "Sampling the delights of the Orient." What a complete scumbag.

[@marsi3251]

Kinda agree and disagree at the same time. Was he in a relationship? No, so not a scumbag, my man went and saw other life (I also think that Paul hardly influenced this boy, don't say he's a bad guy but his lifestyle was so different from OP that boy slided). Is he a scumbag for calling this trip like that? Obviously

[@shicobizous6154]

And then the whole audience clapped

[@mgntstr]

u must be a hoot at magic shows

[@longschlongsilver7628]

Old Man literally quoted Robert Mugabe

[@mgntstr]

Who quoted sage mgtow wisdom of the ancient past. It is known.

[@fala-zt9ep]

I love this Paul guy lol 😂

[@bandaralhoraibi2018]

All things aside Paul is the mvp

[@hauldencottenfield869]

“How fake do you want this story to be?”

[@R_S747]

Legit I can't believe anyone is believing this shit it's not realistic AT ALL

[@jajajasputin8927]

​@@R_S747yeah but it's entertaining so eh. Not like I'm using it for anything other than entertainment before forgetting it in a week

[@R_S747]

@@jajajasputin8927 true tbh like 90% of the Reddit stories I get invested into sound fake asf to me so who am I to judge

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

I hope its fake. Working a year in a foreign country sounds like hell

[@R_S747]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 eh Japan seems like a lovely place to live at least for a short time

[@yaxxydesu5776]

Paul and the Old man got me crying 😭🙏🏽

[@Zerif69]

LoL I am reading these comments and half of them have nothing to do with the main characters. All about Paul.

[@alwaysright3943]

W Chad MGTOW Paul

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

If someone suddenly wants an open relationship, they have someone in mind already or they really just don't love you.

[@francsesca3679]

Paul is such a vibe, also when OP said "are all of them the same?" I was like dude calm down.

[@TheSentinelStone]

Paul is a real one.

[@Vesper778]

This story cannot be any faker, OP seems to love portraying himself a gigachad that makes 500k and get laid with hundreds of chicks easily and marrying to this childhood person is merely a knight in shining armor act bs.

[@LennonnJohn]

Maybe don’t have sex with that many people? Always surprises me how it comes as a shock people aren’t comfortable with their partner having slept around.

[@mgntstr]

and being super cringe about it by posting on social media. Idiot never heard of kiss but don't tell. He just HAD to let the world and future generations know.

[@promotechs2540]

they weren't together at the time or did you not hear the story

[@LennonnJohn]

@@promotechs2540 you missed the point, of course I am aware of that.

[@VikingMakery]

@@LennonnJohn Agreed. That may not have stopped the fiance, but would have helped.

[@ebiitek]

@@VikingMakeryshe didn’t care until jenn started feeding her lol

[@rutherhood5961]

I wanna watch this as a movie

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

The real reason she wanted a open relationship was because she had a side piece lined up and needed the go-ahead or was already cheating and wanted to remove the guilt

[@Gaspa79]

The "You think I wanna be sitting here with my heart out and you crying? I want to be home playing with the baby we would have by now" killed me

[@BananaMilks21]

Why do people like ruining relationships

[@sadudas11]

Because stability is fucking boring

[@mgntstr]

Why do people like killing their enemy? She is sexual competition. Seek and Destroy!

[@wiresculptor5951]

Lol so both of there exes must have felt great knowing there relationships where purposefully temporary

[@0fbaimeg]

I had a best friend like that. Our families were best friends from before we were born, and we had met at the ages of 8 (me) and 10 (him). From the age of 10 (he was 12) I knew I liked him, it wasn't until I was 14 that I realized how much. We were best friends, had been since the day we met, and everybody from both families thought we would be perfect together. At the age of 14 I told him about my feelings for him whilst in France, but he told me he didn't feel the same. I respected his feelings and we remained best friends. Every year I would tell him at least once that I still had feelings for him, that they hadn't gone away, but he would always tell me he still didn't feel the same. This continued every year until he was 20 and I was 18. One day he told me over the phone (we were in different states because I was at boarding school) that he realized he has some not-so-friend like feelings for me, and if I still like him he'd like to explore them, and I thought that my dreams had come true, but I told him I wouldn't be home for another month because I was still at school, and he said he would wait for me. When I went home, I went to his house all nervous but excited. We went for dinner and drinks, and back to his place after. Throughout this whole evening he had not made one move on me, so whilst we were at his house I siked myself up to do it. Eventually I had worked up the courage and decided to pull his phone out his hands and kiss him. When I pulled his phone out his hands he responded; "Hey! Give that back I was talking to my girlfriend!", and a part of me broke. Long story short, a week after his phone call with me he got a girlfriend and never told me. I excused myself to the bathroom, cried a little, asked my mom to pick me up, and never mentioned it again. One other thing happened between us a year later where we slept together under the pretense that he had feelings for me and we would remain friends if it didn't work out. It didn't work out, and he blocked me on everything a month later without telling me why. After being blocked by each other for a year, we finally decided to talk about everything. It had been hard for that year because our families were best friends, and we refused to do anything that might result in us seeing the other, even though we spent time with each others' families. It turns out - after a year of reflecting - that both of us felt the pressure from our families to be together and gave in thinking that it was what we wanted too. For me, it started and ended that way, but there was a period of time (before and until he got a girlfriend after saying he wants to explore with me and didn't tell me) where what I felt for him was real, but from that moment on I thought I still had feelings for him out of pressure and habit. For him he never had feelings for me, but after 12 years of pressure and confessions, he began to think he did. We agreed we'd never be able to be what we were before everything went down, but for the sake of our families, we would be acquaintances at best and rebuild our friendship from scratch. It's been a year since then, and we still talk. We don't talk frequently, and we don't talk about anything too personal, but if we had to meet up right now, we could, with no hard feelings.

[@MizzShortai]

"She didn't know if she would have actually gone through with it" honey, you showed up to the hotel and checked in. You were going to go through with it. And when she came home with a few new tricks up her sleeve did she think OP wouldn't know how she did that.? She must have thought OP was a simp and didnt mean it when he said theyd be done if she went through with it.

[@StealthLazarusOfNod]

Asking for an open relationship is already a red flag itself.

[@ashutoshtiwari4398]

I know I am going to get a lot of heat for this but here it goes: If a woman sleeps around with a lot of men, people say it will be hard for her to find a partner who won't be insecure about her past. Does that not apply to a man?

[@RLSmith-jt8qj]

Nope. Because women like that shit.

[@Toches]

Nah, it applies across the board. The difference is that if the roles were switched and Jenn was the OP the boy counterpart would be getting NO sympathy, and she is getting some.

[@octobermourning]

It would to me. If I felt uncomfortable with a man’s body count, I’d just break up then and there. She should’ve just broken it off, she clearly wasn’t okay with his past.

[@chessieray1465]

Not the monkey, child.😂😂😂

[@gloomyadolescent1234]

Its literally always a nurse bruh

[@Jdne199311]

"Dp you think i want to be here, No i want to be at our Home, playing with the Child we would have had by now" Gut wrenchign..

[@jetkirby]

1000 years in prison for OP

[@m4hunt3r47]

who tf needs jenn when they have paul, (Paul was the mvp of the story)

[@Buldogg345]

I don't get why women would think we care about their "experience" or "technique" in bed, I mean, come on. Yes, a little creativity is appreciated, but, at the end of the day, we actually don't care. Most efforts bring great results but not everything has to be a home run. Her insecurities are what brought them to this. Too bad. Both sound like good people. BTW Paul and the Old Man are amazing. Paul proved to be an amazing friend and that Old Man is very wise. At least OP has a good support system besides his family and everyone else.

[@AhmadAhmad-xv5cr]

disagree with this massively she sounds horrible trying to sneak in cheating after he screamed no in her face

[@Buldogg345]

@@AhmadAhmad-xv5cr Agreed. But that is a product of her insecurities. Now she'll have to live with the fact she lost OP. Just that.

[@sadudas11]

Yeah a woman with good "technique" is just the cherry on top. I'll happily take a woman who does practically nothing but lay on her back as long as I know Im getting it consistently. Maybe some women think that way because they require good technique from a man.

[@Buldogg345]

@sadudas11 I mean, if she doesn't do anything, not even react, then you aren't doing a good job, so... And about the last past, I don't think so. Maybe they think like that because of low self-esteem or something. Or maybe the biggest and stupidest mistake many people make, they don't communicate. You want to know how to please her? Ask her. You want to know how to please him? Ask him.

[@aksprkl6594]

The boss' quote was misogynistic bs tho. Women don't create the beauty standards, men do. The women who don't wear makeup just end up getting told they should wear makeup by men.

[@under-dog5390]

No the beauty industry is fueled by women and that is undenyable. Why is it fueled by women? For male validation. Women set the standards and keep trying to one up eachother for that validation and men literally just observe and be like "oh you look nice."

[@WolfODonnelfan]

Ah yes, because it is men that came up with the idea to shave off eyebrows and draw on new ones. Not a single guy I've ever met thinks that is pretty. His boss might be a tad misogynistic, but you showed everyone that you're a misandrist with your comment too.

[@user-zz6jx1qz5l]

To be honest Jenn should not have taken him back after 100+ hook ups.

[@AndreiaAndrade-zg8ms]

What he does when while single has nothing to do with her. He was single and young and in a foreign country he could have slept with 1000 women none of her business he wasn't hurting anybody...

[@user-zz6jx1qz5l]

@@AndreiaAndrade-zg8ms I personally would have not taken him back lmao. It becomes her business as soon as she is comitted to him. She should have left earlier, fixed her issues instead of letting jealousy eat her up

[@milkiesLoverboi69]

For once OP was not a simp. Ngl this sounds so fake by just how like a movie it sounds, got the "best bro boss" Paul and shit

[@Attritionist]

He took her back though

[@morganablackwater2017]

...lol the way op talks about women says all I need to know about him. He should be happy anyone wanted to marry him at all

[@Kinta02]

I particularly love how real this is

[@hansmemling2311]

Paul is such a gem.

[@bangpiktv2863]

"30 to 60 days? F*ck me" part got me rolling on the floor 🤣

[@SilverCraft15987]

The more of these I listen to the faker the feel xD

[@GreenTea-vf7sg]

The girl should have asked the BF for lessons not from other guys. sheesh girl, letting dumb people get in your head is very wrong. Paul is the hero in this story. We all need a good friend like Paul.

[@swgraphics9059]

"LDR"...Your trouble right there...She fooled-around then

[@husleman]

Paul is a fucking G. Best brother to have at your side. Paul is the type of friend to jump in front of a bullet for.

[@GrullaMustang16]

I may be perceived as the bad guy hear... But up until she rented the hotel room, I couldn't really see why it was such a HUGE deal to him after she merely SUGGESTED it. I mean the guy literally said himself about his body count, "take the total, divide by 3, and it's still a scary number" that's a lot of fucking people. A lot of experience. And A LOT of PRESSURE on his gf. Of COURSE she's going to feel like he settled or that she'll never be good enough. OF COURSE that pressure will increase once the realization sets in the closer the wedding day gets. Of course she feels like he's settling with her after he had "fun" and now is ready for the "serious boring" life with his "on hold" wife that their families basically set up. Of course she feels like she could never live up to any of his experiences or could possibly satisfy him long term. I can't really blame her for feeling that way. I mean who wants to be in a relationship where the balance is THAT skewed? Where you had THAT extreme of a difference in an important field such as sex. Idk, I can of course totally understand him being moderately upset about her suggesting it, but to absolutely lose his shit like that? To "have no idea where this is coming from"? Really? You can't POSSIBLY imagine why she feels insufficient? Why she's scared bc she's finally realizing you are her last person she's going to be with and she'll have no chance to "catch up" or "get better" in bed before settling down with you? Like, this is my opinion BEFORE the hotel room. I was pissed AF seeing she had that hotel room. Though, if she really TRULY couldn't go through with it, maybe they could've worked through it that night if he walked in and saw nobody there. Idk

[@ArtemSayapov]

He didn't break up with her because she suggested an OM, he broke up with her because after he stated his disgustment at the thought of an OM, she went ahead and tried to f someone anyway behind his back. Also, she made it sound like he would cheat on her if the marriage wasn't open, which really shows how little she trusted him, so he had every right to get mad at this suggestion. And anyway, even suggesting an OM is usually grounds for major suspision. The story is probably fake though.

[@mgntstr]

... You don't have great sex by sexorcizing with strangers. Fail to see the forest for the trees. The best sex you will ever have is with a partner who you have a vast experience of having sex with.

[@gaiusbaltar8915]

The sad part is that it's so easy to put yourself in Jenn's shoes. Imagine you're lovers with someone, basically since your childhood. You've lost sight of one another for a couple of years because they are away due to work, but that's okay. You know they will be back eventually, and you're keeping in touch anyways. In the meantime, you're leading a modest life in your hometown, having a relationship or two, but it's an open secret that you're waiting for your lover to return. Then they come home, and they have changed. The person you are in love with suddenly is *much* more evolved, much experienced. And it dawns on you that your partner has pretty much banged a swath right through south east asia while the two of you were on pause. That relationship is over. Like, guys, imagine this from the reverse position. You've stayed in your hometown, your girl has come back, but now she is acting like a porn-star in bed and it turns out she has been with like a thousand guys over the last years. Nobody has technically been hurt, but there is still no reconciling this. Demanding an open marriage, cheating - that's fluff. That's details. This would have gone wrong one way or another anyways.

[@viciousrape]

did this man just say Paul got into a fist fight with a monkey. oh holy fuck this guy is the best kind of fucked up

[@usneod9329]

I've heard this story on a few channels, and also first was exposed to it in Reddit. I actually had a short conversation with OP. He said nothing has changed as of now. That's been awhile ago. So I wonder if there any update at all to your knowledge? I believe couples in 2023 are starting to learn that if you truly want a successful relationship you should probably leave open relationship out of your vocabulary. This is not the first, and by no means the last we will hear of a stupid decision to present this to your significant other and it completely blowing up in your face. I would recommend if you have these thoughts stay single until you don't!

[@navaneeth3904]

Man paul is the chillest person know to mankind

[@wezzy9437]

I freaking love Paul xD that dude is a literal legend!!

[@robfeander3653]

I had a horrid thought that it was going to be Paul that she meeting in the Hotel, or when OP came home its who she had ended up with.

[@manueldelbono202]

I mean... She had a point, but when She asked She didn't have your permision so that makes her belong to the streets

[@CarlosMartinez-pz3mb]

this is actually so depressing the ending was so heartbreaking

[@bettybitchson9085]

This is definitely a fake story. seems too scripted.

[@somerandomguyinyt177]

Paul is HIM fr

[@domdrty]

She has done this before.

[@Polarbear00713]

I'm sorry. Did he just said he wants one person after years of whoring? Neither of them should be dating. She obviously needs to figure her shit out b4 she commits and he needs to understand that sleeping with a bunch of people will probably cause problems with most normal relationship-seeking individuals. Ive never heard of sleeping with more people improving a relationship. There are lasting implications to actions. They don't just disappear. I mean, just imagine a role reversal.

[@Heiura]

Don't listen to the old man's words ... They're dumb af , listen to you heart mah guy , your heart and your brain.

[@winterace2.051]

I don't get why people wants open relationships if you wanna sleep with other men, just breakup with your current man and be a whore

[@mgntstr]

because they heard a college professor talk about it being liberating and empowering

[@artemislove2941]

“i’ll try to paraphrase” process to right a whole dialogue from a movie. that’s when you know it’s an ai post

[@rohanshah7559]

Idk I can kinda get why Jenn was so insecure. Since OP had slept with that many women, it really probably did fuck with her psyche that she could never measure up to them. Although she probably should have just gone to therapy instead of wrecking her marriage with OP

[@SynthwaveCrusader]

Genuinely curious, would you have the same thought if the roles were reversed and OP was the one lacking experience?

[@rohanshah7559]

Probably, I don’t really see how it would change anything tbh

[@itzCasperHD]

this first problem is that WHY TF DID HE THINK HE WAS A JOKE, Joke or not i’m shutting that shit the fuck down… ain’t shit funny 💀