Agreed with all your points. I find it incredibly strange that someone would complain about getting dropped. Or it's like you said, wrong ride then😂 cuz I go to group rides hoping to get dropped cuz then I at least know I was challenged and failed. Great video Jonathan!
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thank you
@dgassert2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comments unless the group ride is posted as a no drop group ride. You obviously have to ride in within your limits and select a group ride that is right for your level as well.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
yes!!
@JDirom2 жыл бұрын
Really depends on the ride. I have seen a lot of people treat group rides as a race, or purposely push the pace to drop people, and it becomes a real ego thing. I also have known people getting turned off for that reason. A good club will have sweepers to ride with the weakest rider to ensure someone new to the sport doesn’t get left behind, and in the case of a mechanical doesn’t end up stranded. For many people it is a recreational thing, as well as a social thing. Wanna race, go race. Want a fast pace do a training ride with your peers. Ultimately club should be letting people know the goals of rides and direct people to the right group. Just my two cents.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment, appreciate it
@aaron___6014 Жыл бұрын
I just had this experience today. It was a race ride not a group ride. No etiquette. Ive been riding in groups for years but I'm realizing fast race rides aren't for me anymore. I want a group ride. Two abreast, turns out front, consideration for slower riders on long hills, etc. It's not a weeknight road race that im looking for anymore.
@bubby3722 жыл бұрын
I don't do club rides anymore because the coffee stop became too long. It was more like lunch hour for most of the other riders. I come for the workout not the food!!
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!!
@no1bermyboy2 жыл бұрын
Lol I just started cycling about 8 months ago I get dropped every group ride I go on, but I make it further and further every time.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
nice!! keep it up!
@gandul12342 жыл бұрын
I do not go group rides because first I work weird hours and have no time and second my time on the bicycle relieves my stress from my daily routine, I go as hard as I can or as easy as I want.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
Nice!! thanks for sharing
@denisbassom1722 жыл бұрын
Depends on the type of "group" ride. If it is a "social" group ride, nobody gets left behind without their permission.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment!!
@veggiechowder88772 жыл бұрын
Those are some very simple but hardly ever said kind of things, good points
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thank you
@RossTheNinja2 жыл бұрын
I like group rides irl more than zwift. They don't go faster by half a watt per kilo than advertised, usually. And the cake is better
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@Jam7892 жыл бұрын
It is the beauty of group ride. It is a good lesson to get drop
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment
@neilmckenna2362 жыл бұрын
I ride 99.9% on my own, its the inly way to train efficiently. However, i LOVE the shoot-out type group rides... the only thing is were i live THERE IS NONE!! Its the exact opposite.... everyone plods about, stops for everything.... waste of time... completely does my head in 🙈🥴🥴😖
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@lomilomi35352 жыл бұрын
Also if you wanna get stronger you need to go out with people who can drop you....simple as that...
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@MoneyMakerRealty2 жыл бұрын
Love group rides but I ride with the same guys every weekend and we stop for the guy with the flat and help.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@davemacklin92442 жыл бұрын
your points are valid and i do agree except for the mechanical drop. Things happen I dont see the need to stop a whole group and wait while fix a flat or what ever went wrong. Fix it and better luck at the next ride. Now a wreck yes stop make sure all is good and then start back up.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment
@sherwin3williams2 жыл бұрын
I was one of the slowes riders 5 -6 years ago always in the back or coming 36th out 65 riders in races. This last two years and currently I always in the front putting it down ,have a set of KOMs and PRs . Coming in the top 5 . No one can't keep up with me on group rides ,Some riders does quarrel . But they were faster than me . They had no mercy ,even if they had stopped to wait, as soon as I reached up to them . They does say ,no rest for the last man. But now I putting on the pain to them 😂😂. Only if it have new riders in the group ,I does stay in the back and show them some tips. It up to you to become better. Someone told that I have the potential to represent the country , just have to work on my technical skills on the Xc mtb courses.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!! appreciate it
@daryl48412 жыл бұрын
I insist if I'm not fast enough that the group drops me. I don't like the feeling of holding others back. One time in a group I hit a pothole 5 miles in, and both my tires went flat. I felt embarassed and told them to continue on without me, but they insisted on helping me swap my tubes out, in record time. Very nice people. Ended up being a long great ride where we all smashed it.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
Nice!! thanks for sharing, appreciate it
@JAEagan24292 жыл бұрын
Agree with this 100%
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks
@danielballester1342 жыл бұрын
Group ride recommnends in Central Florida?
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
Windemere Roadies Ride. Its really good!
@321bytor2 жыл бұрын
...I ride on my own and still get dropped...
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
Lol
@andarenbici2 жыл бұрын
I think rides that drop people and don't wait to regroup are unfriendly and a big part of why cycling is not as popular as it could be. Why do something that makes you feel bad? Is that really why you got better? Different ways of viewing the world. If it is a semi-race, it should advertise as that, not a group ride. Not waiting on a flats is what makes people faster?
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
good points to reflect on, thanks for sharing
@marcpolsinelli53342 жыл бұрын
I know the shootout one tough ride Hard to believe you came off.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thank you
@MaxRothFitness2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thank you
@mikel916732 жыл бұрын
I enjoy getting dropped, it makes me a better cyclist. Well put
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thank you
@waynosfotos2 жыл бұрын
If you are in a 30 to 32+ km/ph average, yep, up to you to hang on, as you are considered competent rider who knows the route and is fit to keep up, flats included. It is a fast lets go ride. But many group rides are advertised as a "no drop" rides and lets be real it is a "group ride" not a crit race. But in many of these rides people have to much of a ego and race, or drop riders who flat or just do stupid things. Many of these people in these rides are wanting to be involved in a social event NOT race. Group rides are a great thing, but many people treat them as a show off event and this destroys it for others.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment!
@salva.2 жыл бұрын
It happens to me. I got dropped after a 180° turn. I didn't have the skills to hit that turn correctly, then I was unable to catch the group again. Is true, it takes a lot of technique. If make a mistake in the precise moment, is the kiss of death.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@creative9072 жыл бұрын
As a newbie cyclist, I would feel intimidated by group rides. I usually ride solo or with a few friends.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment!
@donwinston2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to join a club. You'd think where I live there would be lots of cycling clubs. I live across the river from the White House in the USA. I've googled around and all I see is a few defunct clubs with little activity. But if I find one I'd be leery of joining because I'd be afraid of causing someone to crash riding in a peloton. I'm a little erratic. I've crashed all by myself three times in the last 15 months.
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment!
@freddyfinance667117 күн бұрын
I ride solo, I can go when I want, how far I want, where I want and I can stop anytime if I want to take in the scenery or for any other reason. Life’s too short to be bossed around in your leisure time . Group rides always have the inevitable egoistical asshole or two who treat the ride like their personal fiefdom. FUCK GROUP RIDES!!!. Ride solo or maybe with a trusted friend and clear your mind.
@AOL03212 жыл бұрын
It’s the modern trophy kid mentality Jon. Sounds like these riders writing these letters to the clubs want a warm blanket, hot chocolate, and a comfort pet. You only get better by riding with people faster than you. The snowflake mentality doesn’t cut it in the real world 😁
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment
@ilgour2 жыл бұрын
Hold the wheel or go home. The only reason i reached good fitness is because i got my ass kick. Only then you realised...
@jonmaloneycycling75932 жыл бұрын
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@samuel85902 жыл бұрын
Shame on you for showing up to these rides and not knowing what you're getting yourself into. Talk to people, ask questions. Other riders will tell you; this is a smash fest or it's a casual ride. HAHA write a letter crying about getting dropped.