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[@TrevorAllenMD]

This is actually Farfa’s confession he’s been a member of the Ghostrick community all along.

[@Caleb-zl4wk]

ikr

[@canirunitDOTio]

Either ghostrick community member or altergeist fan club member 🤔

[@heulg.darian2536]

one of us, one of us

[@amangill1752]

The Genex gang

[@TheoJay615]

I thought the Altergeist fans hated MBT too lol

[@LazyLee]

farfa doesn't understand that fun is irrelevant it's about causing as much suffering as possible

[@maltenuchter7134]

Thats why its called the MASOCHIST banlist after all.

[@thegwallitn5337]

i find causing suffering to be fun :)

[@GzzGtu20]

*THE PLEASURE OF PAIN*

[@Machiroable]

Farfa is really hufing on that copium implying current YGO is fun even with all these cards banned, especially because most of the overpowered getting banned are a must of in rogue decks.

[@maxh7085]

One man's pleasure is another man's suffering.

[@TheWitchBoi]

Damn Farfa just going through his Joker Arc rn.

[@austinnowak5414]

The point of the Moron Banlist Tournament is too unban as many cards as possible. It's not about fun

[@lollojojjo6612]

Can I be honest? I think smoke granade of the thief can return now since auroradon is banned, I don't think infernoble will do other than discard 1 or 2 card, expecially now that they unlimited trishula and mermail still exist

[@esrohm6460]

but mbt perfectly understands how konami works. they too don't ask whats the most enjoyable or sensible or has any explanation at all

[@airsoul366]

Mass Driver is definitely not coming back with Morphtronic Telefon on its way now.

[@williamaldred335]

The Delinquient Duo logic is the same level of brainworms as people that say pot of greed can come back.

[@igoretarded5524]

pot of greed could come back to one it would be extremely generic and would see play across every format but it wouldn't be a problem card for most decks

[@cerberos1]

PoG can come back because you can draw Dasher + Celestial

[@otangakudyokeman7124]

Some cards do have a logic tho. Oh well ... and key word is "Some cards" =) I didnt say Djinn can comeback =)

[@infiniteshay8660]

In a world where every deck has a 3K beatstick I don't see Masterpiece being near as powerful as it was, personally. And I think the point of Verte being better than Fusion Destiny is that you don't have to draw it. And whenever your normal combo gets stopped you can just make Verte and that's it.

[@alan3998]

dude same but for some reason i can't stop watching him

[@NyaaPaw44]

Tempest on endymion pendulum. The Jackal and the king as well as some of the magic beasts therr Gain 2 Spell counters per spell Activation. Spell counter Generation for a Deck that solely revolves on doing just that is FTK city waiting to Happen because of Tempest. Without it, it just gets a lot of Resources for Arcanite. So, youbmight as well play The Endymion stuff Instead of Spell counter turbo.

[@TheKastellan]

Already pointed out but when your goal is less whether they should be banned and more "can we get this off the banlist without completely breaking the game" your mindset and what reasons are valid change.

[@ArchangelJuicy]

Farfa, the combo is Ultimate offering + Athena(1 or 2) + Honest

[@riku2193]

Maxx C should be unbanned

[@kaiserauthoria]

MBT broke ... I think he needs to take some relax pills.

[@anakinsmith4770]

Yugioh has one severe issue. judgment could come back judgment isn't an issue you pointed out jowgen there is the issue. remember the festive fox people thought it would be busted because it could bring out a barrier statue once again theres the issue it's not cards that search a floodgate it's the floodgate itself simorgh got banned lets be honest because of a floodgate. look at scythe for example a completely busted card when accessible does this mean the searcher should get banned no however the floodgate should. it's like calamities vs zexal. one could be summoned easily in any rank 4 decks the other only in VW personally calamities is as healthy to the game as mystic mine for those slower decks zexal however is just plain unfair. when the turnover for calamities would be 1 in every 30+ decks compare to zexal being accessible in 1 in every 2 decks.

[@dantefree3837]

Does it need to be gone?

[@fhffvgju6299]

Why did u stop reacting to prog

[@spezialist7674]

He wanted to bring servant of endymion back to 3... At a reasonable price 😅

[@Serge-25]

You gave him your brain worms...you should be ashamed of yourself (?) Still...he was right sending Meow Meow Mew to hell so all is forgiven

[@FreyaTheSuccubus]

What is Farfa's deal with cutting body parts?

[@ChuuniKaede]

master piece isn't even the problem it's literally the floodgates lol.

[@MBTYuGiOh]

Cope, seethe, mald.

[@KyunaCookies]

Witness as true Draco wins yet another MBT

[@darkmagicianfan3423]

All I know what to do anymore is summon fibrax, it's been so long. I don't know what yugioh is anymore. The other day, I drew Veiler and tried to normal summon it. In Plant format. Everything has become fibrax to me. There are no other monsters, no spells other than tuning. The only trap i know how to activate is conquistador. Occasionally I add back a card with barricadeborg, and I cry a little. I attack for game but wish I was being gamed instead. It's become a joke of sorts, or maybe it's just my life. I can't go anywhere without seeing auroradon combos. I went to feed my dog the other night, but instead of eating she turned into a link 1 and summoned 2 tokens that can't be used for a link summon that turn. I had to put her down. I sit in the corner now counting down the days, the days where we shall see sweet release from this torment, the day when synchro summoning was about 2 monsters having a special bond and creating something beautiful. Those days are long gone. I have seen God, and I have seen the devil, but they are one and the same. I stared into the abyss and screamed, and it screamed back: "summon linkross effect”

[@LostEndgame]

@@KyunaCookies spoilers: it didn't

[@KyunaCookies]

@@LostEndgame oh god I can't wait, no spoil. I'm guessing maybe uh Despia

[@captainchaos5705]

"are you trying to bring it back just for the sake of bringing it back?" Yes. That is precisely the point. What is the maximum number of things we can bring back without destroying Yu-Gi-Oh Also something I've noticed with MBTs banlist is that he unbans pieces going "well this thing alone doesn't break them" and then he does the same thing for the other pieces so it is busted

[@Supergupo]

(Looks at Djinn) "This alone doesn't break Drytron" Proceeds to unban Eva.

[@youngdoodle]

@@Supergupo herald build is way better than including djinn anyway

[@suezuccati304]

@@youngdoodle yeah, Drytron doesn't really synergizes with Djinn but it's terrible for future proofing

[@lorenzolombardi3369]

Procedes to unban master peace that ruined all of his tournaments. Way to go.

[@flogos989]

@@lorenzolombardi3369 dragon ruler lost round one 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@WhiteWolfRQ]

“Are you bringing back Victory Dragon just for the sake of bringing it back?” Yes Farfa, that is the entire point of the Moron Banlist Tournament.

[@jonatassilva2605]

A shame, because it used to be better, a thought out list of cards that could come back....now is indeed just 'cause.

[@geiseric222]

@@jonatassilva2605 yeah I will agree, bringing back cards you know are only there for technical reasons rather than playability is pointless for an online tourney

[@TheSaicoKiller]

Previous Moron Banlists were more thoughtful because they were made with the idea of actually releasing cards that don't need to be there. Last time MBT said himself that now that he has done that, the goal is just to release as many cards as possible, basically for the sake of it. If you want a more thoughtful Moron Banlist, watch previous videos where he did that. No point making the same video over and over again

[@geiseric222]

@@TheSaicoKiller eh this is a bit silly as the meta changes and cards will interact with them differentky

[@TheSaicoKiller]

@@geiseric222 A the point is to be silly B yes but realistically there has been little cards that changed because the cards he originally picked are just bad. There are exceptions like Time Seal, which sucks, might not suck as much since Labrynth is a thing. Surely he could make another more serious one but refer to point A

[@ryancondon2246]

FARFA the point isn't to make the game more fun the whole thing is "how many cards can I take off before the game is destroyed"

[@prosamis]

This, lmao

[@exzyyd392]

>Starts with Victory Dragon

[@ryancondon2246]

ALSO im raging that they banned verte that was my whole joke, makeVerte :(

[@ashikjaman1940]

The question isn't "Is this good?", it's "Did Icarus really go high enough?"

[@lilgrabbo6142]

I get the critique of master peace, that is a clearly broken piece he should know from his other mad science experiments

[@galesturms]

Just like watching this when it happened on stream, no one can tell if Farfa understood the bit for about half the video.

[@Haruhater]

Farfa and MBT need to duel now with all the strats they can think of.

[@bl00by_]

Farfa only knows 6 decks: Evilswarm, Infernity, BA, Ignister, Adamanciptaor and Draco Pals. So it's going to be alittle hard.

[@Ign0rantP3rson]

@@bl00by_ I have definitely seen him use more

[@saif19845]

@@bl00by_ I have seen farfa play infernoids and ligthsworn grass

[@GrugGangGrugGang]

@@saif19845 Have you seen him play them well?

[@WinterGray8888]

The thing I think he’s misrepresenting here is that MBT has to hit a quota, he doesn’t genuinely think these cards should come off but he’s saying that if you have to un ban 90 cards then these are the least bad

[@pmrobin8]

@@alexYu-gi-oh he literally put them all to three tho

[@TheMatt_SD]

@@alexYu-gi-oh He put the Exodia pieces to 3, though? They're on the last slide of cards to unlimit

[@WinterGray8888]

@@TheMatt_SD yeah, he did.

[@Unknownz000]

@@pmrobin8 well yeah. What does putting every banned card to 1 even do? You get staples but that really all it is. It'd just be already existing decks running these one of staples and nothing else. When u unban cards to 3 then you introduce more decks that can be played so it's actually entertaining rather than watching normal yugioh with a strong card every now and then.

[@alexandruandros1271]

@@Unknownz000 what does putting every card to 1 do? Uh you get trad format

[@UniGya]

I thought Joseph was pretty open about how this one and the previous banlist "prediction" lists were about seeing how much you could take off the list without actually changing what the best decks are, not making the game more fun. Like no shit this list sucks ass, he's not actually advocating we do this

[@saif19845]

@UC3y55kzpWt7Jty6PTP4SriA still a dumb concept

[@theauberman]

He even calls it "The Masochist Banlist"

[@Meanlucario]

Saying that Konami could unban these cards today and it wouldn't change anything implies otherwise.

[@UniGya]

@@Meanlucario by “it wouldn’t change anything” he meant “the current best decks would remain the best decks,” not that the game would be complete unaffected

[@Meanlucario]

@@UniGya He says as True Draco, Syncrons. and the latest tournament says otherwise.

[@menekenkack]

Danny in chat: "I love this tournament for the reactions" while Farfa is losing his mind over the banlist

[@squidge477]

"Flip it over and summon and ftk and also extended." Truly a legend

[@DallySkyeAnims]

He was obviously referring to extending the handshake for such an amazing match. :)

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

The card does read "you have infinite normal summons per turn", and can explicitly be used during your opponent's battle phase to normal summon any number of monsters. Are we pretending that special summons aren't good specifically because you can do as many as you want per turn?

[@agushernandezquiroga9064]

​@@dontmisunderstand6041 The problem is that since it's a trap card, the earliest you could use it is during your opponents battle phase, and at that point it's definitely going to get either destroyed or negated.

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

@@agushernandezquiroga9064 Baiting a negate sounds good enough to make it in a deck to me.

[@agushernandezquiroga9064]

@@dontmisunderstand6041 I mean, if baiting a negate or destruction on a card that can only be activated in the battle phase is good enough, might as well be playing Drowning Mirror Force. Mass, non-targetting, banishing removal for no cost or need to have normal summonable monsters in hand to activate and is searchable with trap trick. But nobody plays it because the opponents battle phase is too late to activate trap cards.

[@Farfa]

Guys it's just a joke relax lmao, no we don't have beef.

[@신언범-m8y]

Is justa joke why hab to be mad?

[@Hempujonsito]

Too late I'm already seething, boiling, malding and coping even

[@crusaddy982]

When the copium needs to huff copium to keep up

[@dougla517]

I'm still seething with rage. How dare.

[@mekklord]

MBT: "Here's a list of cards that could come off and not make all that much of a ruckus. It's not a wish list - just a list to test my own, admittedly degenerate format." Farfa: "WOAH I CANT BELIEVE MBT WANTS ALL THESE CARDS BACK IN THE GAME"

[@Mani-en9lw]

I think i saw you in duel links Reddit

[@glover683]

Feel like Farfa is kinda missing the point of the video

[@Marqrk]

I think he believes (or chat told him) that this was MBT’s genuine banlist prediction/wishlist rather than a challenge to god to smite him for his hubris

[@LilyApus]

doesn't he usually miss the point?

[@TheFourthBlackReaper]

Farfa. This is not a wish list. MBT does not want these cards unbanned to make the game better. It’s to challenge Konami into being more open to removing cards from the ban list that do not need to be there. Should Victory Dragon stay banned? Yes. Should cards like Trap Dustshoot, an ancient ban that was situational at best in its hayday of 20,000 years ago, stay banned? No. That’s the point he’s trying to make. It’s just a silly idea to have some fun with a wacky ban list for a tournament to goof on Konami.

[@fukou_da]

Yeah but his reasoning is still bad

[@Machiroable]

@@fukou_da Yeah, but in practice said cards aren't broken anymore or only broken in pretty specific situations.

[@fukou_da]

@@Machiroable It's still pretty silly to say something like "making Verte is better than activating Fusion Destiny from the hand"

[@spacepsycat]

You are a big fucking dumb dumb just as MBT. He is not trying to make a point, he is just an "entertainer" doing "entertaining" things for his stupid audience.

[@firstnamelastname7587]

@@fukou_da Which is more likely to happen in a game, you summon 2 monsters? Or you hard draw FD? I'm pretty sure that was his point and not literally that if you have FD in hand already you should make verte instead cause thats better.

[@effluxi9587]

lmao farfa really channeling his viewer's intelligence and reading comprehension for today's video

[@TwistedBOLT]

"The masochist banlist" Farfa: How is this fun?!?!?!?? Sorry dude but you need a big wooosh for the video as the entire point of this series kinda went over your head.

[@saif19845]

The idea is stupid itself since it’s not accurate this format is just for one event a realistic format is many events over many months where innovation happens.

[@lagxus7445]

Here we see three diferent Views of the game: Farfa - priorizing fun MBT- Prefers varieties of stratrgies instead of fun Konami: MONEY GOES BRRR

[@ashikjaman1940]

MBT - Prefers chaos

[@fosterdawson7339]

@@ashikjaman1940 theduellogs: gimmick decks and Akiza memes

[@DracoSenpai420]

Uhm, isn't having more cards available more fun? "Oh but other decks will be broken and stronger" spoken by the people that play some of the topping decks

[@otretzel7533]

Cry about it

[@Akoom]

Projection

[@nethius100]

The sad part is that MBT only gave like a day and a half for people to make decks with this list before submissions closed so probably no one got time to make things genuinely spicy

[@DuskoftheTwilight]

Yea that's the real flaw with these banlists. Ideally he'd give at least a week or so for people to lab stuff

[@lightningfarronxp8899]

Farfa: "YOU CAN'T UNBAN THINGS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF UNBANNING THEM!" Cry about it lol.

[@Xhalonick]

Farfa cries about everything from the state of us politics to really anything and everything under the sun. His entire channel is false outrage.

[@Pyrrha_Nikos]

This is how the endless conga line of content starts this year. I can't wait for Joseph's response and then Farfa's reponse to that and so on

[@AstralPhnx]

Oroboros once again

[@bl00by_]

I like how farfa either doesn't understand MBT's unban series or understands it but malds about it anyway just because he wants to.

[@ZelniteMH]

He knows but the "rage" clickbait is ez content for him.

[@bl00by_]

@@ZelniteMH Imagine you're so desperate for clicks that you have to do something like this, meanwhile most other yugitubers put out quality content.

[@melchior0184]

Imma search Change of Heart with Alembertian and nobody can stop me 2:47 Laplacian: "maniacal laughter"

[@Phoenix107]

I watched this live, and it really feels like farfa just didnt realize that the Point of the list is to bring everything back you CAN. "How does this make it more fun?" - DOESNT MATTER, thats not the point.

[@PhoenixLance13]

Didn't Farfa LITERALLY commentate one of these tournaments too?

[@ivanmaterazzo2631]

But the point of the list is not just nerfing powerful archetypes, but we also want to get rid of obnoxious cards. We are 100% sure plant ftk or "solemn cards+ last turn+ barrier statues" lists won't be any near to competitive, but boy if they can be ridiculous to play against. Farfa argument is not so weak and I believe the masochistic tournament while fun it doesn't prove at all if some cards could or couldn't come out from the list safely.

[@hyperion1644]

Its actually puzzling to me how engage is at 1 but harp horror is still banned

[@Rastaboulotte]

You wan't to Engage! banned? I can support that.

[@Tanka036]

I think the logic is, Harp at 1 is Harp at 7 for Orcust due to Girsu and Scars. Where as Engage is maybe at 2 on any specific turn. I would love to be able to have Harp Horror back just because the deck really hurts without it, but that might be the logic.

[@hyperion1644]

@@Tanka036 i know what you mean but yeah the deck is really crippled still

[@hyperion1644]

@@Rastaboulotte not that but want one horror

[@Tanka036]

@@hyperion1644 true, I want to play Orcust as well, gonna buy max rarity and cope/wait for horror back

[@simonlarimore1770]

It takes a unique set of skills to double the length of a video and still not get the point XD

[@Boristien405]

16:00 Verte is literally better. It dodges the most commonly played card in the game, Ash Blossom. The point is that with Verte, every hand can get to FD. Without Verte, you have to hard draw FD. Remember, FD as a spell takes a card out of your hand while Verte can just send from Deck and randomly dodges things like Crossout/Prohibition too.

[@Cassapphic]

The power of verte is any two monsters do it, in most cases you've already checked for ash before hard activating FD unless your hand is bad and you were gonna do DPE pass or something.

[@blinktwice296]

It’s really not, if your opponent saved an Ash for the final play then they already lost lol

[@andreamarini9940]

But if you ban FD, guess what happens, you can't neither hard draw it, nor use It with verte. But i guess It doesn't matter because verte Is now banned anyway, but still

[@Boristien405]

@@blinktwice296 One month later, guess I was right. Nobody except HERO is playing DPE after Verte got banned and Ash is still the most popular handtrap. Decks are now much more diverse now. Obviously there's still problems but we have Despia, Swordsoul, Flundereeze, Therion PUNK, Dragon Link, etc. as the top decks. Verte was "the problem" of the package.

[@blinktwice296]

@@Boristien405 ngl idk what I was on with that comment lol. I feel like I always knew Verte was the problem, but maybe it’s cause I was salty that so many people in the past did hard draw FD against me despise me negating Verte lol

[@alexcrawford5539]

"Sometimes his reasons are just a bunch of words". Wasn't MBT in law school or am I making that up?

[@rubenjerate5848]

Yes, he was :)

[@pinkdelicious655]

Doesn't mean he's good at it. There's sovereign citizens who studied law

[@DillonChichester]

I’m one minute in, but I can already tell this is gonna be 20 minutes of farda repeating his one bad argument about the list making things more “fun”…

[@DuncanHarbison]

5:35 - none of your fingers have effects that activate in the graveyard.

[@mikaela5938]

a lot of the unhits he lists are because it would be funny to unhit them, victory dragon is terrible but it's funny, mass driver is dumb but ftk is funny

[@alexYu-gi-oh]

How is that "funny"? I swear mbt's community calls everything funny just because. Like how is it a fun experience for you to go to a tournament just to play against some dumb player who plays last turn or victory dragon and u have to waste 20 minutes on judge calls instead of just playing the game

[@livingbeing4517]

@@alexYu-gi-oh Because the tournament you're going to is against other MBT viewers (hand-picked by MBT) and the point is to make the most of this banlist and so nobody will play Victory Dragon anyway?

[@luminous3558]

Mass driver is also absolutely awful. We have 3x cannon soldier who is infinitely more searchable and summonable than a continuous spell that isnt part of an archetype. Also as MBT said if you can summon 20 times you can make a billion negates or have already gotten nibiru'd. Pay offs are hardly ever the issue. Game is all about how consistent your engine is and how well it plays through handtraps.

[@alexYu-gi-oh]

@@livingbeing4517 he said victory dragon is "funny" so im trying to understand where the fun in that card. Please dont try to be a smartass

[@amethonys2798]

@@luminous3558 this. Back in Danger! Darkworld FTK that deck would've ran soldier over driver due to how flexible the card is over a continuous spell especially since if you discarded it you just went with plan B of 5000 negates and used the potential extra dark in grave for cards like beginning of the end.

[@sdquad6]

Farfa did you.... Just make this thinking it was a banlist wishlist or something? Do you not understand the actual concept of the ---> Moron

[@WarpedByTheNHK]

MBT is mostly right (some of his choices are insane). The forbidden list should only really contain cards that are meta relevant. If you ban every irrelevant off meta card that isn't "fun" then you are going to end up with a list clogged with trash like Gishki Gustkracken and Naturia Bamboo shoot. No matter how unfun a card is, once it loses relevance to the meta, it should leave the list.

[@Evil_Florida]

He is just very honest about what he wants to do, ok. He quite literally stated the purpose of this is to destroy yugioh forever

[@Rutrakpm]

The problem is that commenters don't understand that Farfa doesn't need to unserstand it, he's just being funny. It's fine, Farfa is dumb, MBT is dumb, we don't have to stress over it, just laugh it off

[@Unknownz000]

Idk if farfa realizes that mbt doesn't want the whole banlist to be at 3. This is basically how many unbans can I do without absolutely fucking the game over. And I honestly think his unbans are reasonable since theyre literally the ones that don't kill the game completely.

[@andrejv.2834]

They would in an actual tournament setting and time to do proper testing, but the point is to have a funny draw droll or lose tournament so we don't care about that

[@commander950]

"How would this make the game more fun?" Oh sweet, silly, naive farfa it was never about fun it's about succeeding where Icarus failed.

[@telepathicdragon]

Sorry Farfa, but I love MBT I came here specifically just so i had an excuse to watch MBT's video again.

[@DoctorFalchion]

It's called the Moron / Masochist Banlist Tournament for a reason, it's intentionally anti-fun, the only limit is that it shouldn't unreasonably raise the power level of top meta matchups, or in other words, straight-up break the game.

[@mathewricafrente5984]

I kinda want MBT to do a tournament where everything is at 3, just to see how badly the results would destroy Yugioh.

[@masterduelzero1795]

You literally have to play Droll at 3 to have any chance of seeing turn 2

[@joshleake3517]

@@masterduelzero1795 But then they draw one of their three called by and three crossout anyway so it doesn't matter

[@DrDrao]

@@joshleake3517 You also play 3 if just to guarantee you draw the out.

[@waskithonugroho3955]

well unlimit all draw card lead one ppl to play floodgate masterpeace and win the tournament soooo

[@Spxngxd]

Play IO turn 1 win the game

[@zuleanservant]

To play devil's advocate about fusion destiny: activating verte can't be ash'd vs raw activating destiny. There's also the variable of not needing to have the destiny in hand to make use of it whereas verte is always live so long as you can put 2 bodies on the board. Which is statistically more likely than topdecking a 3-of. In a vaccuum raw dropping destiny is the better option when consistency isn't a variable however you will have a greater likelihood of just being able to make verte and banking on your opponent not having imperm, vieler, or gamma.

[@andrejv.2834]

So verte can't be ashed but can be hit by 3 other commonly played hand traps Also that's the point, you use verte for when you don't open fd and make something better than verte when you do open it

[@zacharycannaday6075]

I guess I'm missing something. How can verte dodge ash?

[@tcoren1]

@@zacharycannaday6075 first off, sending the fusion card to the graveyard is part of verte's cost rather than effect, so you can't ash that. But what about verte's actual effect? Well verde's effect reads "this effect becomes that Spell's effect when that card is activated, also, you cannot special summon..." so verte's effect is "copy the fusion cards effect", which is not something ash can negate, even if she would've been able to negate the copied effect

[@Nocturne989]

I thought bringing back things off the banlist that didn't impact the meta...WAS THE WHOLE FUCKING THING EVERYONE WANTS FARFA "Are you trying to bring it back just for the sake of bringing it back?" Oh no, the judge call at YCS Chalislime will take too long, jesus dude you posted cringe.

[@Shazam1998]

Farfa doesn't seem to understand the point of the video and neither does his chat.

[@GentlemanBones]

I think an important thing to note about MBT's banlist tournaments is that: 1) Eveyrone knows everyone else's deck list going in, so you can play specific counter cards like Eschatos with precision, and 2) He's lying anyway, because he gives himself the ability to veto certain decks from being entered, so you can't just freely take advantage of the ban list he curated.

[@orga7777]

Exactly. Everyone is on Droll in every one of these tournaments. It is frustrating. It is always "See, FTKs and endless draw power doesn't work. Just draw Droll." Like... hello? lol. Nobody like formats where you either play Droll or lose.

[@Trojanexe-gk8kf]

@@orga7777 but the point isn't to make a good format the point is to unban 90 cards

[@orga7777]

@@Trojanexe-gk8kf That is fine and all, but that isn't what Joseph says in the videos. He honestly thinks it changes nothing in the format.... Except now everyone is forced to main deck Droll and Lock Bird or lose in seconds.

[@ryansanagustin6553]

@@orga7777 He doesn’t genuinely think removing all these cards won’t have ANY impact. He’s just trying to prove the point that the banlist should be more lenient by taking it to extrema. And if he’s sorta wishy-washy ab his argument, it weakens it (tho I will admit his rushed arguments for each card and curating which decks can be allowed in the tournament also weakens his argument but really it’s about clickbait and about getting his point across about how stingy the banlist is currently)

[@darkblade9924]

Its funny how the winner of the tourney was:.... Infernoble.

[@YuseiTheSynchroHero]

I mean TBF, if I see _AQUA_ and some other BS discarded by my Delinquent Duo, I would be like... (๑•﹏•) Also... Speaking of, FARFA, WTF was that comparison with Delinquent and your _FINGERS GETTING CUT OFF_ ಠ_ಠ

[@gubigubigubigubi]

I don't agree with his list. But I agree with the concept that Konami needs to just send it with stuff like Yata and Change of Heart and just see how it goes. To be fair about delinquent duo theres a lot of hands in Orcusts I wish my opponent would send my shit to the GY and if I'm playing Tearalaments sending 2 cards to my gy on their turn might end their career lol Like imagine activating Delinquent duo and seeing 4 tearalament monsters and an orcust monster and going :l Against 95% of other decks though its unmitigated cancer lol

[@ballom101]

The issue with the "See how it goes" approach is that Konami is very inconsistent with their speed at removing problem cards. If they did shift to this experimental phase with the banlist. They'd have to be much more on top of what is becoming a clear problem and dealing with it.

[@sdquad6]

This isn't a banlist prediction or wishlist, it's a specific unbanlist for a "Moron Banlist Tournament" to try to get the most cards off the banlist as possible before the game breaks. This has happened over time and he's inching up more and more cards unbanned.

[@gubigubigubigubi]

@@ballom101 Konami is normally pretty quick with rebanning cards if they are really big problems. The only time they take forever to hit problem cards is with stuff like Firewall, Verte, Sky Striker Engage, etc when they are still making money off it and refuse to ban it until its been reprinted.

[@lamthejamman5468]

Farfa having numerous mental breakdowns over MBT’s decisions is fucking fantastic.

[@matthewsouden6998]

Farfa has officially lost his mind and then lost it again

[@League____]

3 mins in and the video is painful to watch. Farfa the point of his video IS TO UNBAN AS MUCH CARDS AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE GAME LITERALLY BREAKS IN HALF. It's not a wish list, it's not a banlist anyone wants to happen. You are missing the ENTIRE point of the video it's absolutely unbelievable.

[@kindlingking]

Thus the cycle of MBT unbanning Masterpeace, realising how terrible this decision was only to then unban it again in the next moron banlist shall continue.

[@antrondon3654]

The game is fun when you get to play with your cards. Every card that doesn't break the game should be unbanned.

[@CheckpointK]

Turns out when you skip the explanation at the start of the video you have no idea what the entire point of it is, and create a 20 minute bad take. Who knew?

[@amethonys2798]

2:13 how is that any more egregious than flunder? Flunder can also protect the statue way easier than books can protect jowgen and can play through Ash.

[@Caleb-zl4wk]

He skews this so hard. Mbt chillin

[@dubiousbrick4483]

Really you are doing your opponent a favor with Duo letting them choose what card goes to the GY, totally fair and should be bumped to 3. 1000% Sorry, i was really high when i typed that first part.

[@ViperineHero]

THANK GOD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS MBT'S BANLISTS ARE WHACK WE KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE GAME CHANGING CARDS AND HE'S LIKE you lets bring back delinq duo

[@Dw7freak]

About the cards Farfa has an issue with: Victory Dragon doesn't work in closed tournaments like this. With the amount of resources it would take to normal it, you could just win the game. Even then, match winners only work in the ocg where you can't just scoop on your opponent's turn. Djinn doesn't work in Drytron, the only viable ritual deck currently. Unless we see some Nekroz, I don't see anyone playing it. I agree about Duo. It should stay banned. Truedraco... He just wants to watch his tournament burn. Misc is literally the only reason Dino could be competitive. The deck still loses to a bunch of the meta. Even without Verte, every deck is still gonna splash DPE. The third copy of Fusion Destiny won't do anything but clog your hand after turn 1. Tempest Magician is only plausible in Endymion and we all know how unviable pend is.

[@Edanite]

I swear, anyone who doesn't understand why Duo needs to stay dead are likely the same people that thinks PoG and/or Graceful Charity are fair and balanced cards. These individuals should quietly return to smashing their heads into cinderblocks. And that unlimited list.... Dear god, it's like he wants Deck Destruction FTK/OTK to come back. Card Destruction, Macro Cosmo, Dimensional Fissure, Morphing Jar, and Necroface all at max and you're golden. Flesh out the deck with hand reload and draw cards for yourself, and deck destruction spell and traps for the opponent and you're golden. Heck, with a Deck Destruction build like this you could run almost all the Pot cards without any issues.

[@Koirittle]

Did MBT every actually say hes removing cards to make the game more fun?

[@jk844100]

No

[@sdquad6]

It's a series of tournaments over time that are trying to see how many can be unbanned before the game stops being playable

[@CZPC]

Farfa jesus. The point of the video just flew 80mph above your head.

[@netcat22]

The funniest part to me about the moron banlist is that it put duo to 1 but not COH

[@bigman94755]

COH is just a weird unban from Konami. Just put Mind Control to 2 and you have the exact same thing as now but not as strong.

[@gonzalogarcia312]

I just want Infernity Launcher and Archfiend unlimited damn it. They can unban whatever they want but it's not fair all these decks get to roam free or get soo many of their cards back and be a good yet Infernity still has to limited to hell and back. Bruh if they unlimited Launcher and Archfiend Infernity would tier 3 at best probably not even by today's standards of power. There's soo much negation and disruptions in the game now that Launcher to 3 should be fine! I love love love Infernity but they're not even that scary anymore!! The meta game has evolved to the point that Infernity can be stopped indefinitely before any of the Launcher Archfiend shenanigans get online!!! DUDE like c'mon!!!

[@deadtake2664]

I love MBT but I hate his Banlist videos because he never brings back Electrumite

[@maysachan9921]

or Block Dragon

[@TheRobin120]

Tempest magician is ultra easy to get out with endymion pend stuf and with selen getting a million counters ...

[@vedremo9240]

Not that easy

[@paolol122]

Haha Farfa the man didn’t understand that Joph goal isn’t make Yugioh funnier 😂☹️ Bad but unfunny cards shouldn’t come back unless they are finally powecrept

[@hannes_r]

i play goat format a lot and you know uhm, duo can never come back, the people who made it were batshit crazy

[@dubiouslobo9190]

Farfa freaking out over Masterpeace when there's Accesscode, Branded and Adventure stuff to deal with it. Y'all need to stop living in 2017

[@dhanyl2725]

The problem with master peace (or any true draco cards back at 3, really) is that the card makes ppl play floodgate.dek, it's not only about the master peace. True draco can have all their stuffs back at 3 except master peace and the deck will still be a pain in the ass

[@dubiouslobo9190]

@@dhanyl2725 Isn't this the same argument people have against Guru, Altergeist and Eldlich players?

[@KingLIFEDRAIN]

Let's see,unaffected by card effects,pops a card every turn,and us backed up by shit like monarchs erupt. And the ONLY real out is a kaiju. Yea okay boss you keep thinking this cards somehow worse than the shit you listed.

[@waskithonugroho3955]

@@dhanyl2725 and yet true draco deck need tons generic draw engine to make it work and tcg banlist already killed tons generic draw not to mention the Advanture engine gonna kill those Skill drain/monarch erupt anyway, so idk man imo masterpeace would mid at the best in current tcg format warping meta? sure on early few week before ppl realize how outdated true draco engine but i'm still willing to proven wrong tho

[@amethonys2798]

@@KingLIFEDRAIN despia literally just summons Guardian Chimera and smacks over it.

[@patchworkgolem]

2:03 do you think Konami ever asks this? Because I don't think they ever have so why should MBT?

[@d007ization]

The fact that this is an overreaction makes it very entertaining.

[@The_Doctor__]

The last episode of The masochist banlist series would have MBT removing every card from the banlist and destroying Yugioh once and for all thus saving the environment and preventing the end of the world.

[@supermonkeyqwerty]

Farfa, I just wanted to add to the sea of comments that start with "Farfa" and say something real. Also, play in MBT's MBT.

[@TheSuperf12]

Farfa, you guys should team up and make a unban banlist together.. you could keep each other in check and make it bigger and see what can actually be done

[@zRunes]

Farfa: How does this make the game more fun Title of the damn event: Masochist banlist tournament

[@DMD_Yugioh]

SECOND, FARFA PLAY DRACOPALS

[@maskofthedragon]

I also hate Mcock & Ball Torture

[@brianwilson7934]

The main problem with Yu-Gi-Oh is that ppl think the answer to each format is to ban a bunch of cards they don't like instead of just letting the power creep sink in

[@wonkybiscuit2760]

Yeah with all the going second cards that exist currently, I agree the solution isn’t always a nuclear banlist. We did need certain cards to go this format, just for the health of the game though.

[@Kris_King]

Wait, a reasonable comment? On a Farfa video? Did I enter an alternate universe somehow?

[@LilyApus]

in a game about back and forth plays the mentality that you need to ban strong cards instead of making other cards good/better is very ironic.

[@brianwilson7934]

I didn't realize anyone had even responded to me but cool Also real quick Verte is better than Fusion Destiny because the likelihood of you having two monsters left to make verte is higher than the chance that you naturally drew fusion destiny Fusion Destiny costs less to activate but can also brick your hand with multiple copies. A card's versatility and accessibility is sometimes more important than its stated effects.

[@luminous3558]

@@LilyApus To be fair there are lots of situations where the solution of "make stronger card" causes even more problems. We don't need a card that can out rhongo. That way you just end up creating cards that blanket out everything. Not that konami isn't already playing whack a mole with powercreep on bosses and outs, thats how we ended up with DRNM and Droplet.

[@luigirock96]

Change of heart is scary, use the meteor hand trap and change of heart on the token to one shot.

[@puppieslovies]

There are much stronger turn 3 plays if you get to resolve nibiru and your opponent has an empty field It's basically impossible to lose if you do that anyway