I Hate Range Rovers. Has A Week With One Changed My Mind? (Vogue SDV8 Drive and Review)

This week I've been driving a 2019 Range Rover Vogue SDV8, courtesy of Jaguar Land Rover UK. I've never had a fondness for a Range Rover, but can this one convince me otherwise?
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[@dh1380]

"I've recently been driving a lot of McLarens" most casually delivered line ever

[@idcman6692]

Title: I hate Range Rover Me: give me that damn car

[@MrAnderson321]

Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. It’s okay people on here to slag them off but until you’ve driven/owned one you’ll never know what a lovey car they are to drive. I can get out of mine after a 4 hour trip or more and feel like I’ve just popped to the shops. Love it!

[@tombell7670]

We need a review of your shirts some time......LOL

[@Dutch94]

He looks like James May's estranged cousin

[@ignignxkt]

"for the last few days, I've been living ..with these shirts. Most of the people who get them would be better off getting normal shirts."

[@betterireland1]

Like grandma's old arm chair :-)

[@douglas_drew]

Tom Bell - Thanks for bringing this up, as the only question I had was whether a safari shirt is mandatory for proper Land Rover etiquette, or simply advisory if you want to be taken seriously when you walk into the dealership?

[@tombell7670]

No comment from the great man I see. I think we need to petition for a Jayemm shirt review .

[@VWkid4life]

Range Rovers are perfection. Literally perfection. Hating Range Rovers is like hating puppies. You are just a terrible person at that point.

[@rodinjohnson8233]

puppy's meat is tasty

[@maman1817]

Paul Thiel I agree

[@VWkid4life]

@@rodinjohnson8233 So is your dads.

[@Coordinator61]

Perfection, hahahahahahaha what a joke.

[@xRoRox]

Rodin Johnson *coronavirus entered the chat*

[@lukestocks4370]

All of your downsides that you speak of are only because of where you live. In Australia it works fine. I currently own Every series Range Rover that's been made from the classic to my new Black edition I picked up 2 weeks ago. They are all amazing pieces of art and engineering.

[@johndarby4503]

Totally agree. We are on our fourth - a Sport. Freakin awesome. Makes every trip an event.

[@armaankang2882]

I live in Canada and all the rovers are perfect. The roads are big and wide so you really don’t even feel that big on the road and when it snows (which there is a lot of) it just cruises over everything

[@insayn7995]

Hi, If you don’t mind me asking, how’s the reliability been your range rovers? I’ve always appreciated these beauties but have always been told that they are the most unreliable vehicles one can buy, just want to know to what extent is all that true.

[@Matthew-ll9ke]

​@@insayn7995I'll jump in, 95000kms in an SDV6 Sport and haven't had a single issue

[@edsmith4821]

The greatest car in the world within the warranty period.

[@Alan_Mac]

A RR reliability quip. Oh the wit!

[@stevenjr6582]

Own a 08 L322 tdv8 ,no problem whatsoever . If it were so awful nobody would have bought one!

[@jeff1595]

Yeah people have to plan before they buy and make sure it's like a quarter of there paycheck otherwise it will be a terrible financial decision and reliability won't be such an issue for money

[@danielmarshall4587]

"if I had the money" I'd buy one in a hot second, if I had even more money I'd buy a pre-owned one. Great review AND good to see it caked in road grime... another fantastic video thank you.

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Thanks dan!

[@Alan_Mac]

If you want to get the best out of a Range Rover then pull a horsebox or a boat for tens of thousands of miles and then you'll discover its true value. My L322 tdv8 is just the most brilliant place to be. It has done 115,000 miles with about 75,000 of those being done pulling various horses up and down the country.

[@stevenjr6582]

Alan Mac did you had any problems? Also own a 08 L322 tdv8 and it's glorious , i achieve regulately 28 mpg which for a V8 is mega. Also i bought the car for my own family safety,as all know l322 is a battleship weighing almost 3t with full tank and people inside.

[@Alan_Mac]

@@stevenjr6582 It's heavy on brake discs and pads but then I do tow a lot.so not a surprise. I also probably over-maintain it but it's a big, complex car so, to me, that makes sense. Apart from consumables (which are many and expensive with fluids, filters and gaskets) I had to replace a rear wiper motor, an air suspension sensor and a gearbox seal - which happened pretty much on 100,000 when I had planned to get the gearbox serviced - so really nothing worth commenting on. I have a friend who has a petrol Land Cruiser he uses to pull his small dingy and not only is the RR vastly superior to drive but his V8 petrol can't pull the skin off a rice pudding. Now that my daughter has gone to Uni I no longer need a tow car but if I sold it I'd get less than £14K for it. So I'll keep it until it needs scrapped - it is just such a lovely vehicle.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Great review , pretty much as you say, its a masterclass in control calibration. A 4x4 ripe for EV power, will lower the C of G so suspension calibration refined and roll reduced, space utilisation gets 7 seats, economy transformed, civilised progress torque and thrust all scaled up. So then you end up with no real argument it being a monster other than its size........Big, Medium, Small follows.

[@ashishpatel350]

id rather have a range over an s class. an sclass is just a large sedan. you get alot more with a range

[@jandersen6802]

You get a lot less with a range rover. Less passenger space, less ride quality, less noise insulation, less technology, less quality, less reliability and a lower status brand. Land rover is like a toyota compared to a Mercedes.

[@SenszR]

@@jandersen6802 all your points are absolute nonsense 😂😂🤣

[@edwardmullan2724]

I find that a lot of RR owners are reluctant to go anywhere near the verge on narrow roads. Usually ends up with me putting the two wheels of my small 2wd car on the verge on my side and negotiating past them

[@justinsymonds8470]

As a new Range Rover owner (picked up an old sport) I now know why this is… believe it or not hitting a verge is how you roll these things! It even warns you in the manual against it. That being said it is easy to place and I personally try not to take up the whole road with it

[@Blankadoodledo]

In my opinion...RR is the best looking suv on the market. Better exterior than bmw...benz...jaguar...audi...Aston...lambo. To me it simply is art. Gorgeous. Timeless. Proper lines and curves. And sexy. I hope they won't change the exterior anytime soon. As far as their electronic reliability goes, that's a diff tale. I can only have one vehicle, and have always wanted a RR. But i end up going with german high end super sedans... currently have f90 m5 competition. One of these years ill just get a RR...i need it.

[@tantanman2852]

Would love to even drive one, let alone own one!

[@kausarde4974]

It is very unfortunate to see this off road monster turned into an ego-mobile

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@Strange Reviews the land cruiser too is a serious drug dealer car, you can even see it in news all around the world, but fortunately toyota still makes many other different models like 70 series and patrol

[@davidjohansson2282]

@Strange Reviews Absolutely spot on!!

[@v12-s65]

Kausar De everything premium has

[@specialboye4910]

@Strange Reviews maybe you're the one with bad taste, old man

[@douglas_drew]

@Strange Reviews An American here, so please feel free to disregard, but in the states black is a highly-rated color among those liking the elegance of maximum shine (they love to look at themselves in the mirror - like finish, especially those with huge egos that want to look "Presidential"!), while the drug dealers use much more nondescript vehicles and the drug runners go for the most disposable (drop the drugs & abandon the vehicle). While I agree with your color choices for Rovers since such a large vehicle looks overwhelming in any brighter colors, I will always favor smaller SUVs in brighter colors and specifically regret the one black vehicle I have owned as a concession to my wife's taste for black, as it was the dark color that was a factor in an accident that gave my son his TBI. Even our present burgundy vehicle is so much less visible than our silver vehicle that I drive with the running lights on most of the time and both my wife and I have agreed that we will not likely buy another dark vehicle. Silver has become my favorite as a balance of visibility, appearance, and maintenance (I too live in farm country, yet need to navigate the streets of NYC). As for dictating who gets to buy what vehicle, sounds way too much like where some in our government would like to lead US.

[@herbie53opf]

It's really sad to see the direction Land Rover is going. I grew up in the countryside and we had and still have quite a few Land Rovers. They just do what they can do best: go Offroad if you need to get somewhere nothing else can go. Fast forward to 2020 and noone seems to drive Land Rovers offroad because of the paint, 22 inch wheels with borderline slick tyres and most importantly: who can see you drive in your Range Rover when you're alone in the woods? Noone, so there's no need whatsoever to do it. Just drive into the city and you get the attention. It's ridiculous. And it's only gotten worse after Tata bought JLR. Don't get me wrong, I still like Land Rovers, or should I say Range Rovers, since it's the only one left that looks good. The thing I don't like is the thought and company behind the brand and of course the pretentious people who buy them.

[@mattevans4377]

The 2020 Defender is now the workman's Land Rover, not the Range Rover.

[@specialboye4910]

@@mattevans4377 2020 defender looks like a 3D printed toy car

[@earthstick]

@@mattevans4377 But they need a farmer spec version.

[@mattevans4377]

@@specialboye4910 OP doesn't care about the looks, he cares about getting a specific job done.

[@CorpoPsycho]

Who the hell even cares that someone drives a Range Rover? They're more common than Corsas on the road at this point and no one knows if it's the base model or top £100,000+ spec. Every chav with a bit of spare money buys one.

[@misterjefferson6707]

0:03 why would you even do that?

[@The-Sea-Dragon-1977]

I bought one! 2015 SDV8 Vogue SE and the engine / gearbox is so well suited.

[@jaysmartin]

I couldn’t imagine owning / using something so big and boxey that doesn’t have a bed and a kitchen in the back ... plus I bet my sprinter doesn’t throw as many codes! 🤙🏼

[@gOtze1337]

i liked the previous design of the Range Rover more, i like "boxy" suvs, 4x4/SUV`s shouldnt look streamlined, just my opnion :)

[@Jon-zj2nj]

gOtze1337 In comparison to other current LR products (with the exception of the very recent Defender), this car is boxy. That’s one of about 100 reasons why I replaced my last Disco 4 with one of these rather than the oddity that LR thought was supposed to replace it.

[@stevenjr6582]

The shape is made for having off road ability ,newer ones are more rounded than l322 p38 etc.

[@TheSpoovy]

Why do car reviewers all speak like Jeremy Clarkson? That cadence, it's weird. Is it deliberate?

[@Qwertycritical]

As far as the country goes I reckon JLR made a big mistake getting rid of the Defender. There is a big market out there for affordable, simple 4x4 with hose down interiors that not being addressed by anyone properly.

[@AD-rl4jv]

I love the look of Land Rover's but the reliability issues mean I will never buy one.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

A D Don’t listen to the rumours. This RR is my 6th LR product, having completed over 300,000 miles, in 8 years, I have no reliability concerns 👍

[@TonyEG6]

@@Jon-zj2nj really huh. Just drove past a new RR broken down on side of the road

[@tavvenbizzy07]

It's a nonsense myth.. I have had mine for over a year and no problems whatsoever, if anything the more you have it the better. I have actually loved my car more as I got to know it. I used to own an S Class, I tell you now, the RR is simply amazing

[@Jon-zj2nj]

Tony Badivuk I drive 35,000 miles a year and have done for over 30 years and I can’t remember the last time that I did (excluding 25+ year old ones, which is hardly a valid comment on the marque). Besides, driving past just one broken down at the roadside is hardly a statistically valid sample size.

[@Atamanxxxvii]

It's a bit of a myth, nothing has gone wrong on my Discovery and it's coming up for 7 years old, I put it through its paces too.

[@jamesmcmillan2656]

We don’t see many of those in Australia because they have a bad reputation in general but especially off road. I’m sure they would be ok on a green British field.

[@cinimod1077]

Woah, big man is from Oz, won't get one because he doesn't like British things where all we have are green fields.. Alright James from Australia, did anyone ask?

[@rickc2102]

@@cinimod1077 "He doesn't like British things" is a rather defensive way of saying, "He likes reliable things," innit? Land Cruiser is the real deal, mate.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

Rick C If I lived in Australia, I’d probably own a Land Cruiser too. A widespread availability of new and used parts, widely understood by bush mechanics and often fixable with a crow bar and/or a hammer, with an easy resale. No particular reason to have to put up with them in the U.K though, where the situation with parts and specialist mechanics is usually reversed.

[@pitbox6497]

The trouble with JLR products is that they *can* be reliable, but you have to look after them a lot more carefully than other premium brands, which is where the terrible reputation comes from. Things will go wrong, and you have to get them sorted properly and quickly. Otherwise, you're in a disaster zone and you're going to bankrupt yourself.

[@TheAnnoor]

I worked at one of the UK's largest car auctions at blackbush and these were like one of the most sold cars even though they're expensive.

[@davidjohansson2282]

The way I see it is, there is nothing out there like a Range Rover. Volvo XC90 and Audi may ride better and maybe are better quality and so on, but they are no way near as practical or good offroad as a Range Rover. It's not only JLR products that have been turned in to luxury vehicles so have Volvo, Audi and a lot of others, the days when the motor industries made cars for the averages family is long gone...

[@lordmartinofleithandcuddy6541]

At 4:10 you were passed by an amazing car!

[@StephenButlerOne]

That's very impressive mpg, better than the mpg I get from my 18 Leon FR St 2L tsi. I've averaged 26mpg over the last 15k miles.

[@colingarner6175]

Absolutely love Land Rover /Range Rover . I just wish they would make them less complicated and a lot more reliable.

[@jonathancollard3710]

In the USA (key market) these actually are considered small 🤨, easily fit into parking space ☺️ and petrol is dirt cheap 🤓. Just as a Fiat 500 is perfect for Paris and Rome as it fits into the narrow streets, “it’s horses for courses” with the RR model range. Having said that my new Discovery 5 td6 is near identical up front with same instrument display, leather seats, has same engine, but I’m happy chucking logs, building rubble or kids in the back BUT it did cost whopping £70k + 🥴. Have kept my old Disco 2 for green lanes and off reading. 😜

[@Jon-zj2nj]

No SDV8 in the D5 in the UK 🙁

[@Chazaxl]

The SQ7 has an electrically assisted boost pressure which gives torque from 1000 rpm, not sure how you can say this is better. I drove one of these the other day, its 'flat' unless you really stomp on it. Suppose that's why I'm shopping for a Cayenne 4.2 TDI at this stage.

[@will-lg9ze]

They are a perfect town car. You are sat up high so you can see all around you and others can see you !!

[@skimmingstoness]

Looking like a extra from Narcos with that shirt, it's louder than the SDV8 exhaust

[@GasGuzzlers]

There are many legitimate reasons to hate range rovers... but like you said those looks are stunning. Great review!

[@robinholmescnx]

I've been put off a Range Rover, because most of the critics say it's huge. Well I have a Ford Everest that I've just measured across the mirrors and it is indeed smaller in width than the Range Rover by 1mm! Therefore it's the same size as a Ford Ranger. Get over how huge it is, because it isn't. Length and weight isn't a worry, or height.

[@nickmatthews4939]

Creeping towards 100k subs hehe Great and balanced review for a car you didn't hold hopes for. 👍🏻 again

[@owenh1713]

Great review James.. you gave us both sides of the biscuit as well as the cream in the middle. Honest and to the point. It was so interesting that I nearly didn't notice your JLR Shirt (nearly) ;-) Thanks again.. keep them coming.

[@marcnobel3938]

I had a Toyota Land Cruiser J20 with the Turbo-Diesel V8. It was a great car and in the city and a bit overland, it wasn`t so much more bad in fuel efficiency compared to my Citroen Berlingo at this time. Unfortunately, I need to drive mostly on the Autobahn and there it was drinking Diesel like hell. So after a while, I was going back to use the Berlingo more daily and just took the J20 for the weekend family excursions. It was just twice the price to use it and for just reaching another destination it wasn`t worth to keep it. - It was really a great car. Never a single problem - but not for my use. I guess with a Range Rover you would have the same problem under the same circumstances.

[@jesseharfield3582]

I’ve had bentayga , xc90, x5m , sq7 and I’d take the Range Rover everyday for everything > you can drive 500 miles get out do a meeting and do the same all over again > it’s seats are literally 300% more comfortable than the others and it drives so soft > yes they break a lot but until somebody builds a better car I’ll be in an autobiography until then .....

[@clairemosby8127]

Got the 4.4 Autobiography. Can’t think of one other car I would now have after this. Had the 2.0 petrol ( 4 cyl ) F Pace before this and averaged 26 mpg. I drive this like it’s going back to dealer tomorrow and STILL get 26 mpg so if I drove it conservatively it would be well into the 30s 👍

[@buckleyjteams]

I have a gen 3 shogun lwb and love it. Its big stupid and drinks diesel but its feels utilitarian

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

I want one so much, but I keep taking myself out if it. I might just bite the bullet and accept the higher running costs, I'm in Bulgaria and have a fantastic independent specialist near me, to be honest the costs here aren't crazy, you can refurbish the entire air suspension system for 1200 pounds fitted, a small service is 120, a major is 300. In terms of fuel economy the 4.4 diesel can give unbelievable figures if you drive carefully, I've been in an l405 doing 120km on a level motorway and the computer showed 52mpg with two adults in the car, my friend who's car it is said he gets 30mpg average on a tank, but that's with a lot of town driving

[@fhurley8447]

There’s really nothing else that compares to the full size Range Rover. People moan about the reliability but in my experience of owning several luxury car brands, it’s a market segment brimming with tech glitches and niggles because of the sheer amount packed into them as the flagship models. S classes have strange electronic glitches, so do 7 series’ in my experience. A8’s have been the only true reliable luxury saloon in my experience but I’d still buy one of these. It’s the people who have to sell their kidneys just to pay for the tax who moan about the reliability/running costs. It’s an expensive product, be realistic and know that a set of decent tyres on this cost at least 600 and you’ll be paying 100 plus just to fill it up.

[@stevenjr6582]

F Hurley glad you brought this up. I think on a scale of 1 to 10 ,in the top this is the car that attracts the most hate because of it's status and pedigree.

[@usandutz]

The choppy ride, for me personally was a deal breaker when I wanted to buy one. You just don't expect those jolts from a Range Rover. So I went for a Cayenne 4.2 diesel - rides sort of the same but at least it's much more sporty and it's much smaller and maneuverable.

[@stevenjr6582]

REMUS UMA ,Porsche is an ideal Suv much sportier than Range Rover but nowhere near with the pedigree for go anywhere ability. The transaxle joint disconnect when in off road and tough up when going on road. Range Rover is a true luxury off roader which can be driven anywhere even in 1.5ft water. Hope you enjoy your Cayenne as much as i enjoy my RR.

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

It should be on the 20" wheels

[@romani835]

Ended up buying one of these because I have 3 kids, wanted something big and safe so the choice was one of these or a Volvo XC90, needless to say the wife preferred the range rover.

[@steve-bs3qp]

Don't see point of the V8 over the TD6 in practical terms on the road

[@bj6469]

Drive them back to back and you will see 11 points.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

Because: 1. It has a much broader power delivery with a huge amount of bottom end grunt. 2. It has much nicer 6 piston Brembo brakes. 3. The suspension is better, with a great deal less body roll. 4. It’s smoother. (And yes, I’ve driven both)

[@stevenjr6582]

Steve C this kind of vehicle demands power/torque , this is only possible with a bigger engine. Aerodynamics is poor on Range Rovers so it needs power from almost idle level. The same thing cannot be said about the petrol syblings which have more pwr but at higher revs, which results in a best day 20mpg and the worst 10-12.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

I often hear comments from people who suggest that “there’s no point in buying a V8, when the 6 is plenty fast enough” (read the same for “there’s no point in buying a 6, when the 4 is fast enough”. If all anyone wanted was a car capable of cruising at the 70mph limit (UK), then we’d all be happy driving ultra sensible, 1.0 litre 3 cylinder, economy hatchbacks. It’s doesn’t have to be down to speed, it can all be about power delivery 👍

[@camberwellcarrot420]

Something like 18s would probably improve the ride a bit and be better off road. Plus, I likes me a bit of sidewall.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

CamberwellCarrot 20” rims are the smallest wheels that will fit over the 6 pot callipers on the SDV8.

[@camberwellcarrot420]

@@Jon-zj2nj Doesn't surprise me. They should engineer their way out of that. Off-roading works better with some meaty rubber. Maybe it needs a 4" lift and keep the 20s. 😏

[@Jon-zj2nj]

CamberwellCarrot Indeed they do, which is why I’ve fitted 255/55R20’s in place of the standard 275/45R20’s. The 55’s work pretty well off road, but still retain the ability to track a very straight line at high speed 👍 I like the idea of fitting my L405 with a 4” lift kit, but I reckon that my 88 and 89 year old parents might struggle to get in and out and I’ll have to forget about getting in to a car park again! 😉

[@kkiwi54]

It makes me laugh how some Range Rover's are labelled "Sport" and have firmer suspension. What sport would that be? Gymkhanas don't need firm suspension, in fact the opposite. Maybe it's for track days :o ;)

[@MrPeterthepilot]

All ‘sport’ cars have firmer suspension - X5, Cayenne all ride firmer than a RRSport and arguably handle better as a result. And Sport doesn’t just mean road handling or speed. I need to tow a boat, drive the forest tracks, pack up the skis and head for the snow all of which the Rangey is extremely good at.

[@thamimaluki7586]

A brilliant review as usual.👍You have a way with words Sir. South Africa.

[@NetMillionaire]

Super video I was thinking about getting the supercharger but might buy this 4.4 now. Good performance and decent fuel returns...

[@keithshop1]

Only one big ‘basically’ and a sneaky little one. Maybe you are changing your approach....I love the ‘on a basic level’ version!!

[@dedge12858]

I do sometimes wonder if it's time that road tax took into account the size of a vehicle as well as its emissions. Not that I don't like Range Rovers but they just take up so much space!

[@robertoonesti4429]

Probably still the ‘best’ family car you can buy.

[@nicka113]

I know i'm late the the party with this but you can't tell me an S Class or 7 Series is any smaller in footprint or any lighter on the road than a Range Rover.

[@seigliere1]

I want one, my next car for sure!

[@futbolplaya07]

The Land Rover lineup may make even less sense in the US. The Range Rover name brand is higher than a Land Rover yet not in price or size all the time. It’s nonlinear, which I guess doesn’t matter. I’ve just had a couple awkward conversations by people being a bit nebbie. Plus they really are a bit more rare here, but picking up a lot more popularity in recent years... also I do think the reliability is getting much better than the bmw days.

[@tomcardale5596]

9:08: little one, medium one, big one - I don't get it either. And where's the one you can put a cherry picker on? Or turn in to an ambulance? Or chuck rubble in the back of? Defender hasn't been replaced by anything, Land Rover or any other brand.

[@liamgell]

best intro to a video.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

The off road capabilities are irrelevant in the best off roader ever made? Eh? Plenty of people take these off road.

[@robt8620]

Its all about the driving position. fantastic cars i had the previous model a 2002 4.4 petrol vogue and i will probably get a new shape non diesel model sometime soon.

[@wesrobinson7366]

Well said about so much of the Rover. Though the Land Cruiser is better on road, and a bit less, well in your face.

[@anoobplays386]

Downsizing does work sometimes, but you can't really compare the fuel economy of a diesel to a petrol motor. If you compare a 5.7 v8 petrol motor to a 2 liter inline 4, the difference is astonishing.

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Okay then - the F Type V8 with a 575bhp supercharged V8 did 28+ mpg on a run versus the XE, with almost half the available power

[@N4CR]

S2000 swapped with a 6.2 LS3 is more efficient than the stock 2L 'LEV' rice burner. RPM and usable torque + increased efficiency in design (later v8 engine) is the key.. less piston friction on the V8 at cruise speed.

[@robbiekeyworth3986]

But that’s the normal Range Rover what about the sport, velar etc

[@stevenjr6582]

No , this is the proper Range Rover , the one you mentioned are normal.

[@robbiekeyworth3986]

Gas Racing Ik it’s a normal Range Rover but the other ones may be better please Ik my cars

[@whitecrowuk575]

Huh, never drove Range Rover, did sport and i could feel every bump, been told because its sport and air suspension is more for off-roading than smooth ride, thought RR will be different but i guess not that much. Might stick with my 7 series then or might go with X7

[@mikehodgkins2054]

would be the XC90 for me everyday

[@mattevans4377]

Plus the Vovlo's look better. One of the few SUV's I like the looks of.

[@Iceeeen]

I love to ask volvo owners how it feels to pay close to 100k for a fucking B20 . Easy way to get them angry 😆

[@AndrewSmall963]

Misread that and wondered briefly why you'd want a twenty year old Suzuki (X-90).

[@Jon-zj2nj]

Good for you. Why did you watch this review then?

[@DeAtHaToMiC88]

What I do know about range rovers and land rovers in general is that, they break... They break reasonably often and they usually are quite hard/expensive to fix.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

DeAtHaToMiC And you’ve bought and run a new Range Rover recently and are talking from experience, or are you just perpetuating the rumours?

[@DeAtHaToMiC88]

@@Jon-zj2nj well, I'll be honest with you pal... I've never actually owned a range rover... Or a landrover, they ain't my type of drive. But I have had mates and family who have had them and I regularly help out at my mates garage, so I get to see what comes in and out. They're really nice and luxurious inside but the amount of them that I've seen broken (mostly due to normal use) this past 2/3 years have been 'very noticable', I go to the garage at least once a week... There's space for about 8 cars and I've never seen at least 3 of the spaces wihh a land or range rover. I have asked my friend what the reason for them being so numerous and he blamed the local 4x4 centers being so overran by broken ones, he also said that the depreciation compared to how much and how difficult they are to fix means that sometimes its not viable to fix them unless you have a LOT of money to throw at it.

[@DeAtHaToMiC88]

@@Jon-zj2nj he did give me an example, he had quoted 500 for a new gearbox and rebuild in a golf, 900 in a Toyota hilux, a range rovers runs about 1500-2000

[@Jon-zj2nj]

DeAtHaToMiC That’s probably not a completely fair comparison. Which ones were autos and which were manuals? Was he referring to reconditioned, used or new boxes? Is it fair to compare a new gearbox for a small/mid-range FWD hatchback, with a workmanlike and agricultural pick up truck with a luxury 4x4, which might even be an 8 speed ZF transmission?

[@DeAtHaToMiC88]

@@Jon-zj2nj I mean, that's just the price they cost to have the transition bought and replaced, in general. I wasn't comparing the cars only the prices in comparison. For example, you could go pretty much as exotic as you want as far as cars and 4x4's generally the more a vehicle costs the more the parts are. But concidering how often range/land rovers seams to break even then not using them off road, concidering the depreciation the repairs are quite expensive. Personal story time, we know a guy who let's just say... Is quite well off. He's got 4 veichiles and brings all of them apart from his daughters for servicing. In late 2016 - early 2017 he bought a land rover vouge SE for £60,000ish. Since then about 3 years have passed and the car spent about half of it with ongoing faults, the trim/interior has mostly worked flawlessly. By the time we got it, it had already had an alternator, 2 blocked fule filters, random intermittent days of limp mode that went away on there own, rear suspension hub bushes, faulty fule gauge, then the car started to leak oil (when we got it) so we yanked the engine and replaced the seals, not long after the air suspension started to leak, and which it was on the way back home the auto transmission started wobbling and had to be towed back. He threw a LOT of money at the car finally got it back on the road in December, last I heard he had it back up for sale for £28,900. THREE YEARS!... I wish that wasn't just the only case because when they work they actually look nice and are very nice inside. But there's loads of them coming in, old and new... They're a pain to find parts for, people here prices and then get cold feet, almost twice the labour of anything else going and depreciate like hell.

[@AlexLR]

I’m grateful for the perceived unreliability and the egotistical maniacs that buy new Range Rovers as I get an incredible second hand bargain!

[@DavidLedbetter12]

Shhhhhhhhh...

[@lightbox8019]

yo shut up we don't need the world to know our secrets.

[@MegaRetr]

Range Rovers are perfection.))))

[@BrandinooWOW]

Congrats on 75k brother

[@dylanh1978]

Loving the videos these days, fantastic content and work👏

[@tnetroP]

Great review

[@scottyp1348]

I absolutely love mine and I’ve had many many cars

[@Pitttdog]

Doesnt BMW make the V8 Diesel in this Range Rover?

[@animationcreations42]

Having been in both an XC90 and Range Rover, I'd take the XC90 any day of the week. Sure, it doesn't have the same brand appeal, but it's not far off in terms of quality (and in some regards better), the ride is on par (if not better), nothing beats a Volvo seat, and most importantly, I think the XC90 looks better! Having said that, if I wasn't paying, I'd take the Range Rover because why wouldn't you!

[@MarkPenfoldfarmfilm]

The 4.4 V8 is Peugeot derived not Ford, entirely different motor from the Ford derived 3.6 V8

[@stevenjr6582]

You are wrong 2.7tdv6 is derived from peugeot ,tdv8 sdv8 3.6/4.4 is the only engine specified only for Range Rover as a ford lion engine.

[@liamollen3105]

3:44 Jeremy Clarkson?😂

[@Dan23_7]

12:35. I'm not being funny but my mk2 Clio could do that

[@mattevans4377]

Front wheel drive cars are surprisingly capable in mud. But I would still prefer 4 wheel drive in those situations (not an SUV though).

[@jackrobinson3392]

Tbf to it I had a mk2 Clio and it was a bizarrely good off roader.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

Huh?!

[@Dan23_7]

Jack Robinson Haha really ?

[@jackrobinson3392]

Yeah they've got loads more ground clearance than you think, no traction control and they're cheap so it doesn't matter if you break it.

[@peanuts2105]

Going by that logic, I hate all Audi A3's. What a ridiculous statement

[@interestedparty7428]

Poor man’s Jeremy Clarkson with a bad shirt. Glad he likes the Range Rover though.

[@virgozulu5581]

U can get the RR sports with 7 seats option

[@leenevin8451]

I was in Sport with the 22s. Slow speed over speed bumps were a massive jolt and the ride fidgeted constantly because of the high suspension travel I think. A 7 series sport has the smoothness advantage for me

[@mawaboutcars671]

I just think that, for £100k, i’d just make the tiny little leap and just spend £10k more on a Sport SVR. If the full fat Rangie isn’t a 7-seater, and the Sport offers essentially the same space. Why bother?

[@Jon-zj2nj]

Mitch Ward Because you get a lot more space, a proper split tailgate, a much better “command” driving position with a better view out with a much larger glass area and a higher roof.

[@mawaboutcars671]

I don’t really think you do, unless you get a LWB Autobiography. As for a higher roof, no one notices the difference because both roof heights will be fine for anyone 6.5ft tall. For my money, i’d buy an SVR, as that’s more my kind of thing, though I wouldn’t fault anyone for buying one of these either.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

Mitch Ward: I’ve driven a L494 (RRS) for a couple of thousand miles and a L405 (Fatty) for around forty times that and there really is a great deal of difference in interior space. The much higher roof is put to good use straight away, with a much higher driving position - which shorties will really appreciate! The RRS SVR is a very nice car indeed, but these are surprisingly different cars.

[@justa1098]

That interior is gorgeous

[@sydneywicks3747]

There not built for these roads get a set of 19” I’m running 17” on the disco 3 but 19” wheel fit the superbembo but they need the correct 2013- offset

[@BeingSardar]

Nice video 👍

[@twig3288]

Retest it when it is actually eight years old with a few more miles on the clock. The problem with these car reviews is that they're always based on factory fresh models so never address the issues of reliability and true cost of ownership. BTW, does it have a space for a spare wheel?

[@alanwilliams1223]

Spare wheel in the boot.

[@twig3288]

@@alanwilliams1223 In or below? Is it a full size wheel?

[@RATTLER238]

In and full size alloy 👍🏻😎

[@stephenlaws1836]

How can you criticise them ? It's not their fault idiots buy them , is it ? Is that your best Clarkson impersonation? They are built to do a job & they do it well .

[@jaysmartin]

Wow .. best shirt to date 😍

[@HMCarReviews]

The vogue despite being a luxury car isn't a particularly relaxing drive. Nice to be a passenger but they accelerator pedal is too heavy and that isn't good when you are supposed to arrive at your destination relaxed.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

HM Car Reviews 78,000 miles in mine and I’ve never experienced a heavy accelerator pedal.

[@HMCarReviews]

@@Jon-zj2nj Jump into a bmw, audi or mercedes rival and feel the pressure needed to maintain a speed and compare it to RR. RR is heavier.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

HM Car Reviews You’ve got me there, I never have the opportunity to drive such things. I wonder if it’s one of those off road dedicated things, such as the steering feedback being softer, to reduce kick back over rocky surfaces, or pedals that are chunky enough to be used with wellies on. Might they deliberately make the accelerator heavier to avoid sudden surges of acceleration when he jostled over very rough surfaces? It’s just a theory, but it would be interesting if it were deliberate.

[@HMCarReviews]

@@Jon-zj2nj Those are incredibly good points that I had never considered. The RR being a true off roader and the others (SUV rivals) being a 4x4. I have never driven off road so can not comment how it feels there. Vogue, RR Sport, Velar and FPace all had a similar feeling whereas Disco, Disco sport, Evoque and Epace all had a really light accelerator pedal. Perks of working at a rental company you get to drive a wide variety of vehicle, primarily why I started a review channel of my own.

[@Jon-zj2nj]

HM Car Reviews Thanks. If you haven’t driven off road, it would be interesting if you could work out doing a review of one of Land Rover’s own off road training 1/2 day courses, all of a sudden a lot of the quirks start to make sense.👍

[@Z4coupeuk]

Strange intro but OK lol

[@WhiteMouse77]

RRs woud be addorable...if they never break....

[@ilieionutslobozia]

I don't understand how anyone can express an opinion about something they don't understand ...

[@Greatermans]

Pls do review for S-class . Good reviews

[@juanpablocorreiaecheverria2857]

I love the Range Rover!

[@benjaminagnic8763]

Sorry but xc90 is riding like 100 times worse tha range rover

[@Jennifer89Perez-o4q]

Farrell Plain

[@hughjarce9915]

Has anyone else encounter the suspensions issues Jay spoke of ?

[@Jon-zj2nj]

Hugh Arse No. I drove the first 44,000 miles in mine with the original 21” rims and that was fine - better, in fact, that my previous Disco 4 on 20’s. I’ve driven the following 35,000 miles on 20’s and they have provided a magic carpet ride, better even than my old Citroen XM’s 😳 Mine is a MY17 car though, one of the very last before the current facelift. There are more backwards steps that improvements in the new car, so maybe LR might have wrecked the ride in order to compete more directly with its German rivals? It’s possible 🤔

[@hughjarce9915]

John Hooker Cheers mate, good to hear some feedback from a long term owner

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Smaller rims and tyres with softer sidewalls would definitely improve comfort

[@Scotty-UK]

Accidentally watched this weapon in the RR and what a prat!

[@TINGSTARR]

Nice shirt