I Hated Arthas Vs Illidan Fight As A Kid

[@ChristianMartinez-d8s]

If Blizzard cared about their games they'd make a bad ass cinematic remake for this fight for Warcraft Reforged but all we got was them roleplaying as Sylvanas, disrespecting decency, one-shotting the fanbase, then disrespecting our favorite villain, and trying to paint themselves as the hero. Classic Blizzard.

[@holyflygon]

mad?

[@Ar1AnX1x]

I mean they didn't even give the job to Blizzard, didn't they outsource it? it those freaking money grubbing executives and higher ups, and Blizzard is obviously not as good as they used to be but they wouldn't butcher it like that, they grew up on this stuff

[@dannysabbath2562]

​@@Ar1AnX1x I think you'd be shocked at how much is outsourced in the gaming and film industry.

[@alihorda]

What are you yapping about

[@1ycan-eu9ji]

@@Ar1AnX1x it's not about outsourcing (starcraft 1 remastered and diablo 2 remastered were outsourced graphics but yet they look great)... the issue is the art director had no clue whatsoever what he was doing, he came from working in age of empires 3, so of course his idea of good graphics were "realistic" and decided to change the style of the game entirely. The main menu was also, because they didn't want to train people in the classic FDF framework, built on top, as webui a.k.a a chrome instance is opened on top of the game to simulate a new UI, yes behind the new UI you have the classic main menu, you just can't access it. And lastly, mike morhaime left mid development and kotick decided to take away all their resources so the last thing that was done wrong was that all the stuff they planned to do additionally/fix the game was taken away. Now microsoft joined but instead of actually doing things right, 99% of the new assets/reworks were done by AI and look horrible, the new tiles were made in 2020 by the old team as a proposal for reworked visuals, but they stopped cause they got fired, the new team took those 4 tiles that were made for the proposal and just recolored them/fed them to AI, plus the actual models weren't remade just the tiles. It's just a disaster over and over again, the good news though is they are SO incompetent that a weeks ago they accidentally released the developer tools including the game compiled for development purposes (not obfuscated) meaning that we have now a few modders that have unrestricted access to the warcraft 3 source code (more or less), so we can do a moddeed version of pre-reforged with some of the improvements that reforged brought regarding modding stuff (better UI control and stuff like that) without the other garbage of reforged. okay I think I'm going too far deep, I'll stop.

[@Swix_FGC]

The thing about the wow movie was that they REALLY fucked up by not doing the WC3 Trilogy. The director was a HUGE wow fan and there are a fuck ton of really cool fucking details that fans can find in the movie, but he wanted to start from the beginning. He wanted to do the WHOLE story, which was a huge mistep. The Warcraft lore wasnt even fleshed out until wc3 and wc3 was the game that REALLY fucking got people to love the characters and world (of warcraft). I respect what he wanted to do but it was a huge fuck up trying to start from the 1st war when all that could have been like a 10 min intro in the movie and then once the movies were successful THEN going back to show the start of the franchise. Imagine the fucking hype if at the end of the movie post credits we get the arthus coming back to Lorderon and killing his father with a TOO BE CONTINUED. BRO THAT WOULD BE SICK.

[@primary2630]

Yeah I totally agree. If they took the LOTR approach and did the first war as the intro and then focused on the WC3 story like you said it would've been a lot better received I think. It's not like they couldn't still have the orcs but maybe he really wanted to show Durotan's story.

[@claustrophobicmole867]

FINALLY someone agrees, the only reason i liked the new animation of arthas vs illidan is because the animators actually remembered to make illidan use metamorphosis, every time i watched it as a kid i screamed in my mind "GO META GO META GO METAMORPHOSIS AND YOU CAN WIN AAAAAHHH"

[@jasonwowhero8147]

If blizzard let Theflyingbuttress direct anything warcraft film related theyd be the best movies ever and series ever

[@Foxcs_]

The WoD Lords of War ones were soo good too. Shame what they let happen to the expac though.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

yeah I think these animation series started with WOD

[@CarloRossiey]

Iv long wondered why WoW hasn't had its own series on netflix or continued with the movies. The movie is about a 3/10 and the only thing that carries it is seeing the occasional glimpse of something recognisable like the dark portal. I think we all agree that not doing the arthas story was a big mistake. If anybody has watched Nobbel87's 3 hour video ''the story of the lich king'' that practically is a full length movie but using old cinematics and novels, imagine that fleshed out onto a movie screen or over a series with a budget and directors.

[@stef-w5j]

i dont exactly remember if this fight was after Arthas was getting weaker or not. but im pretty sure he would wipe the floor with Illidan if he was the lichking at this moment

[@adblockonly4548]

I loved that fight as a kid haha

[@1ycan-eu9ji]

It's not that they didn't have the animation for it, they did, they had industry leading animation, starcraft 1 had better animation than this, the issue was that they were close to bankruptcy at this point and had to pick what to have as cinematics, this would be 5x more expensive than the other 2 cinematics from the frozen throne and for no reason. I do wish however that the frozen throne (expansion) had 1 cinematic per campaign like reign of chaos did but I understand that most of the team had moved on to world of warcraft at this point and it was only a portion doing the expansion (plus money).

[@minementalx]

I couldn't watch the Warcraft Movie. I was hoping for an animated one like in their games, but everything felt weird.

[@jobozo99]

They did spam that lich king position lol

[@ZrodyApo]

Illidan > Arthas He's always been the coolest and more badass hero/antagonist, good thing he's still alive while the other has been reduced to anima and forgotten

[@Thalaranthey]

just say you never grew out of being 12 yo girl, bro. Illicuck has nothing on Chadthas.

[@ThatGuyKB32]

If they have a rematch Illidan wins because arthas is dead

[@itscodyman2075]

Even worse than dead, his life force has essentially been erased (Unless Blizzard needs him in the future then his sister will probably restore his essence because sibling magic lmao)

[@shoog70]

Any dk can beat dh

[@gordianknot5260]

Bro Illidan has always been cooler than Arthas.

[@connorm3040]

L

[@nahh-iwould-win]

W

[@SethHarth]

L

[@Ar1AnX1x]

they're both in-arguably the coolest characters of this universe, but I always thought Arthas/Lich King is universally considered the main character, like he's HIM, but you probably like Illidan more because he's an anti-hero, when Arthas is an antagonist

[@mikeparradise9333]

Yeah Arthas is more known than Illidia. By a lot. You can ask many non wow players that are casually into gaming what characters they know from warcraft and Arthas mught be the only kne they know

[@bhaines2209]

When king dies sound like mudvix passing seat 😮 A premonition