I love it just because *tornado* but objectively it is just not good
@ДАНЯ_МГЕ Жыл бұрын
Anything is good against american CAS wallet warriors
@Pioneer_DE Жыл бұрын
It is, at least the event one, 2 Aim 9L's are good, combined with good speed + bombs this is a viable plane, the techtree variant not so much
@ICYROKKR Жыл бұрын
@@ДАНЯ_МГЕ American tech tree will be one of the best once we get 5th gen jets
@BroDog555 Жыл бұрын
my love for tornado was reason enough to get it by grinding harder than ever before... the fact that it isnt that good against other jets other than the fact it has 2 AIM-9L my love for tornado will always be the thing that drives me to try harder... loved the vid btw
@SpriGgEx Жыл бұрын
as long as you dont get caught pants down by an F5C that just turns on a 10m Radius right into your Back
@iglasty2597 Жыл бұрын
i was grinding for it too
@SomeOrdinaryJanitor Жыл бұрын
Hoooooooooo man, that Thundershow Clip didn't age like milk, it aged like rotten meat.
@StealthyShot Жыл бұрын
Facts
@SPFLDAngler Жыл бұрын
I am shocked but not surprised that they would OFFICIALLY say that there would be no premium vehicles for top tier. All WT cares about is money and if they didn’t want to people to buy their way to the top they would not only have to keep no top tier premiums, but also remove convertible research points and remove GE entirely. Since you can literally just use GE to research vehicles and use more GE to spade vehicles.
@ijnyamato643 Жыл бұрын
"Hurr durr all Gaijin cares about is money." The playerbase makes this claim all the time. That statement was made 6 years ago, almost 7. That's nearly a decade. The game has changed an INCREDIBLE amount in a decade. Change. Happens. THE GAME. WILL. CHANGE. Could you imagine if Gaijin stuck by their word and we were still only playing WW2 and Cold War vehicles in War Thunder? You would be the same person shouting from the rooftops that "Its been 10 years and we are still in Tigers! Where are our Abrams? Our Leclercs?!" Games - ESPECIALLY Live service and F2P games - CHANGE. They EVOLVE. They PROGRESS. Yes, Gaijin officially said they won't add premium jets. Guess what? Gaijin also has the power to change their FUCKING MIND. Good LORD it's always an echo chamber about how Gaijin is this spawn of satan and doesn't care about the player base. Christ you people are so toxic and have such an incredible amount of entitlement for a FREE TO PLAY GAME.
@user-qw8hk6ei4b Жыл бұрын
Rank 5 was top top tier at that time, migs, and sabers. Gaijin didn't want anyone buying directly to the top but tier 4 3 2 1 premiums are technically fine.
@Xackory Жыл бұрын
@@user-qw8hk6ei4b F4-S???????????
@user-qw8hk6ei4b Жыл бұрын
@@Xackory that is rank 7
@figbloppa7183 Жыл бұрын
Well game is free so they have to make money. and gaijin does put good effort, they make big updates every few months. And they also do special events all year and listen to the community.
@justincase9033 Жыл бұрын
To be fair with the Tornado IDS (interdiction, strike) it was desinged for one job and only that job: fly behind enemy lines->strike infrstruckture->gtfo, no mater the weather and time in a "one pass haul ass" type of attack (same as AJ37 Viggen)
@preslav1943 Жыл бұрын
ngl the tornado looks like an aircraft carrier runway from the top
@rydersanderson8225 Жыл бұрын
I discovered your channel after watching the 104G video and am enjoying your content, keep up the good work!
@WalvisYT Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@LM-oh3vw Жыл бұрын
Step 1, up! Step 2, down!
@Marder_IFV6 ай бұрын
@@LM-oh3vw this is what i be doi- wait what
@Forkuh Жыл бұрын
The IDS is literally the only jet I’m VERY positive in. I KNOW it’s bad, but I think because I know that, I play differently.
@ivanvukadin3194 Жыл бұрын
Well it will get soemwhat better soon as Gaijin will re-enable the Radar of the ISD to lock ground targets again
@WalvisYT Жыл бұрын
Apparently it won't be able to lock onto player vehicles, so I doubt it will change much.
@ivanvukadin3194 Жыл бұрын
@@WalvisYT won't know for sure until they make the change
@Fl3iR Жыл бұрын
@Walv!s it's been debated on forums its either going to come at some point or not at all so better not get our hopes up. Also AFAIK the techtree one wont recive the as-34 or anti radiation missile what a joke I get it's not naval (marinefliger) and we suck off russian anti air ("to small to see on radar")("No ARM's")but common there is evidence of tonado ids carrying the exact armorment needed to suplement for this aircraft shitty airframe and performance.
@Hadgerz Жыл бұрын
"we don't want people buying their way to the top... ...but we're gonna make the ovewhelming majority of players do it by making the grind impossible to grind freely unless you got 1000 hours to spare, then offering premium pack planes that face top tier."
@thunderouspasta Жыл бұрын
Rip wing off because too many turn but still fly? Go fast and EXTENDO WINGO to rip the other one off, then you literally have a rocket jet
@HondoDogman Жыл бұрын
Love Walv!s really reminding me of the old days of war thunder when Zetaris posted missile shitposts when they first came out fr.
@tiev-4210 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable review my man. Fat props!
@GeneralLee2000 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE STEALING BASES
@SpriGgEx Жыл бұрын
espially from Premium Turds and Bots, Because these Premium Turds could often as well be bots.
@ottermanuk Жыл бұрын
People always get pissed when I "steal" bases. Bruh I'm doing M1.1 and you're 3km behind me. I can't steal what I'm blatantly going for. Nobody respects the ping why should I lmao
@SpriGgEx Жыл бұрын
@@ottermanuk Nobody respects Pings of a Slowpoke. But if 2 similar fast Jets try to steal their bases its a different story. Example several Tornados in your Team and each of them can kill 2 Bases alone. How is anyone else even getting something then? xD
@f18gamerboy Жыл бұрын
@@SpriGgEx i just take enough bombs for one base so i'm even faster then those 😆
@SpriGgEx Жыл бұрын
@@f18gamerboy i do that as well depending on map and jet but not some jets already get enough speed penalties even for a small loadout that can't finish off a base. And some can only kill a base using napalm. But rewards for using napalm are a joke even using a smaller bomb load generates more rewards and napalm can still get your base stolen when you dropped them first
@lordofstringss Жыл бұрын
What a way to make a point right at the start! :D I am on this since 2013. We have come a long way comrade!
@leo_leo6345 Жыл бұрын
It's not the best Jet. But you get instantly with no grind one of the best rockets. All Aspect better than R60s. Fast flying brick that can hurt. Fly it like unburned brick and your fine. It's my first Hightierjet from the Germans and I'm researching the whole tech tree with it.
@davezhang22798 ай бұрын
wtf,I just saw new air superiority updates about new premium tornado ids and this video been recommended to me.
@FM-hw8yv Жыл бұрын
Even with all the shortcomings it has. I still absolutely love playing it And I didn't grind it in the event for nothing
@maxstonecro1 Жыл бұрын
This video gets a like because of the sound at the beginning. It's also a very cool video.
@miren46310 ай бұрын
and then gaijin was like hey lets put this mid aircraft up to 11.0, which is basicly 12.0 lol
@bornonthebattlefront4883 Жыл бұрын
The tornado is the perfect example of how bad compression is in this game That and how poorly gaijin implements aircraft
@MokkaHai Жыл бұрын
That shooting range episode aged like milk
@finnkraus5824 Жыл бұрын
I actually have the IDS and I can’t complain, 1-2 bases and 2 kills every match is very good. In my experience I rarely get shot down.
@user-sb6tt7qn1b3 ай бұрын
Should i buy the premium ids or the mig 21? Which one gives more rp
@aronlakatos6700 Жыл бұрын
Because of your step 3 i have 1-2 teamkills every match, but they always deserve it :D
@S0n1cB00m4 Жыл бұрын
The music be hittin it different
@MidnightSilv Жыл бұрын
Maaaaan. That tornado vs tornado 😮
@marcoalbanese8313 Жыл бұрын
you know what? the intro gave me enough confidence to abbandon the game after 6yrs, i wish yall luck
@sndrc9 Жыл бұрын
nah bro violated that Japanese Sabre
@thepro08 Жыл бұрын
pay to be food for missiles the next update..... br......
@medicgaming7476 Жыл бұрын
I am 69th like, btw like this vid and since i have the tornado IDS i totally agree
@Dinogamer-qg5mh8 ай бұрын
Bro predicted the premium tornado
@LuisFernando-ov6mg Жыл бұрын
The legendary boat plane
@ricolives1166 Жыл бұрын
They'd make so much if they make a Tornado prem lol
@SpriGgEx Жыл бұрын
WOW i have seens lots of Bots in Naval but the first time witnessing Bots in Air RB? Is that the reason they crash at start all the time? xD We always had Issues with Cheaters in Ground RB and SIM but Botting wasnt an Issue until Gaijin released Premium Ships for Naval like the USS Moffett and Helena, that have almost no Repair Costs and Such high Firerates that they almost always hit enough to come out of the Match without negative SL
@SpriGgEx Жыл бұрын
Found already dozen off bots in air RB since I know what to look for. Them crashing at start or flying into nirvana after bombing are good indicators, they also use only premiums as other jets are too expensive and have horrible stats.
@Crembaw Жыл бұрын
Unfortunate/extremely funny that they showed off the F-4S just hours after you released this, considering it seems to just be a better EJ Kai but for America who doesn’t need it and for real money.
@honeyspringshomestead14116 ай бұрын
Guilty as charged. In my defense I work 50+ hours a week and sometimes even 60+ hours. So, I do not have the time to invest to keep up with my friends. I also get 3 of same ranking as to not be a one death and leave wonder.
@RonaldReagan1242 Жыл бұрын
Now I not only have something to fear in top tier but now I have something fun to fly in test fly
@DM-qm5sc Жыл бұрын
Sad that people are going to watch this video and be prisoned to his ideology. The IDS is great and the 11.3 version is even better. Its not a fighter and notevery plane in the game has to be.
@WalvisYT Жыл бұрын
I have one question: have you played the F-4F?
@stoyantodorov2133 Жыл бұрын
Problem is most fighters adapt to the bomber role better than the tornado and most other strike/bomber aircraft. I get my bases constantly stolen by phantoms and other fighters. Thank god the more frequent EC maps now give more opportunities for bombing and cas in air rb.
@josephthebig2889 Жыл бұрын
Its 11.0 now... also if you actually got it through grinding this does not comply to you... you earned it...
@n1co2017 Жыл бұрын
this thing’s wings are less structurally intact that the paper airplanes that people throw around in the back of my class.
@remus907 Жыл бұрын
I mean, you still cant buy your way to the top, but you can as you always have been able to, buy your way to the attic, just cant go on the roof with money.
@WalvisYT Жыл бұрын
This depends on your definition of the 'roof'. In my eyes any tier 8 = the top, regardless of BR.
@shamgamer3915 Жыл бұрын
how to fly attackers (half a joke): step 1: imagine you are playing ground rb and commit side climbing. step 2: fly to a bit bellow contrail altitude and make sure to be at least 17.5km away from any red dots on your screen. step 3: once to the side of the bases turn and dive as fast as you can without wingripping, or use CCRP (cringe). step 4: get da heck out of there and rearm, maybe get some ground or air kills if u can on the way. step 5: repeat. or just bomb toss i guess but no one knows how to CCRP.
@StrayGuard Жыл бұрын
4:30 The little difference between the F-4 and the tornado is that the F-4 gets AIM-9Es and Js at the best, this makes the stock grind really unpleasant but the Tornado gets AIM-9Ls stock, those witll get you 2 kills for doing nothing while beign stock.
@henrycastle6584 Жыл бұрын
Gaijin be like *insert clown meme here* as always
@hungryhedgehog4201 Жыл бұрын
engaging gameplay, why would anyone even want to play top tier jets?
@spitfiremn95 Жыл бұрын
Aged like fine milk...
@airwook1682 Жыл бұрын
The intro while me having both tier 7 us premiums ☠️
@tylersmash7134 Жыл бұрын
I recently got the AV-8 Harrier, my god it's like night and day on how different my games are now, I'm actually good, it's def p2w.
@scottish_seal8 ай бұрын
well this didnt end well
@tigerpanzerkaphfagen8493 Жыл бұрын
3:30 I like how it locks on the sun
@Abigail_Nikolaev Жыл бұрын
it made sense at that time cause rank 5 jets was top tier and what theyre saying still applies rn, theres no premium aircraft on the final tier
@WalvisYT Жыл бұрын
That isn't what I meme about. They literally said they didn't want people to buy their way to the top. Their definition buying your way to the top was being able to buy a vehicle of the highest tier. You can now buy vehicles from the highest tier.
@Octi-ku4yf Жыл бұрын
"We do not want players to buy their way to the top" Gaijin High ups: mf how do you want us to make money, scrap that
@GeronimoWt Жыл бұрын
HA HA FUNNY BREADSTICK
@aidengao-yw5hj Жыл бұрын
Step 7: Break your wings
@farmcat9873 Жыл бұрын
The F4F(early) doesn't have much going for it on the German line seeing ALL the so much better planes it faces and it not having Flares. But to each their own.
@WalvisYT Жыл бұрын
I meant the F-4F (Late), not the F-4F Early (as it's just called F-4F in game). The late does get flares.
@jonahhuckel4838 Жыл бұрын
War Thunder: where iconic planes are shit because they are forced to do what they aren’t designed for
@lucasfescharek8345 ай бұрын
Dont forget that tornado has radar assisted! Guns. Lock onto a target with radar and the guns wil calculate where the shots will go. Very very useful for noobs like me to get some cheeky gun kills with a mediocre gun
@benjaminwiese2994 Жыл бұрын
You gona make a video reviewing some wacky planes people make in simpleplanes i have a few
@fritzfux1 Жыл бұрын
Phoenix Go boom (Only uptier to 12.0)
@thesparpanzer4151 Жыл бұрын
Bro I constantly carry entire matches in that thing even 1v4s no problem being the last person on my team
@WalvisYT Жыл бұрын
Again, you can still do well in the Tornado IDS. However, that doesn't mean its a good plane.
@josneyzim696810 ай бұрын
Now the tornado IDS is 11.0 and he play´s a lot on 12.0, gaijin just decide to make him useless
@SkinkUA Жыл бұрын
Bombrun
@AverageWTPilot Жыл бұрын
Tornyado.
@AlbionAirsoft Жыл бұрын
It’s so borked that it’s not 11.3 when the GR1 is but is like 250mph slower with less flares
@lukrenyt11 ай бұрын
It gets literally rocket propeled bombs
@AlbionAirsoft11 ай бұрын
@@lukrenyt and they make it so worth it being able to almost Bomb a base from further away than tossing a bomb but by sacrificing half the ordnance load….
@lukrenyt11 ай бұрын
@@AlbionAirsoft better to ground rb remenber gaijin is shit at balancing grb with arb
@viciousslayer Жыл бұрын
STEAL BASES ANYWAY LESS GO MAKE REDDIT COPE
@1990hondacivic Жыл бұрын
I bought my way to the top with the f-4s 😳 level 11 and I’ve been shitting on higher levels too
@cmanmaxwell5 ай бұрын
Wait... A swept wing that can tear itself apart?
@heliogt1961 Жыл бұрын
so i just looked at the techtree apparently there are 56 premium jets i saw in therer so gaijin lied alot xD
@muhammadhidayatpratamaputr7326 Жыл бұрын
When you use tornado wach your wing hahaha
@BADBADGER18 Жыл бұрын
Aged like milk
@saintgordon3387 ай бұрын
10 month later.... real premium Tornado is here..... Gaijin -> $$$
@oskarnilsson0712 Жыл бұрын
The marineflieger is actually good at grinding juat that it likes loosing a wing or two
@tomiokagiyu4931 Жыл бұрын
F16 with 6 aim9l’s: INFERIOR
@ThomasF4u Жыл бұрын
i remember 1 game i was playing against the germans and i had 4 kills and the last guy was a tornado it was a 1v1 and right befor i shot him down he ripped his wings
@Thatrandomguy001057 ай бұрын
Eurofighter typhoon? More like *Eurobrick* typhoon 😂😂😂
@mauriceelet6376 Жыл бұрын
I mean TECHNICLY the La 174 was kinda the same, but as you could not buy it from the market, it was no problem. you needed the La 15 for it. on the other hand, i dont think rank has any matter for the top. and thats two fold: you can have a highest rank lower br plane like the tornado, or you can have a plane that plays in the top br but is a rank lower. no matter what it is of the two, it should not exist. at least not to buy in any way or form. event vehicles where fine until the market. the solving of that problem would be simple with restricting access to activate/buy those planes befor at least unlocking the rank below, but money is money. in the good old days, and who am i kidding, there where good, tier 4 had a big difference to tier 5. jets where there for a reason. that kinda got blurry with tanks, but if you ask me: why even have ranks anymore? why should i be punished for playing a higher vehicle to research a lower? why isnt the lower multiplier enough to punish me from researching much higher vehicle? i guess we just need the grind... or pay up.
@lukrenyt11 ай бұрын
The only thing the tornado can do is reversals with the reverse trust
@ChrryWrplan Жыл бұрын
That didn't age very well, now did it?
@akidafloof Жыл бұрын
F-4S: **exists** *also GIV ME MUSIC NAM* (at 1:14)
@dsvntest5287 Жыл бұрын
paper wings
@dylazabeast8182 Жыл бұрын
First one babyyyyy
@ashleyhamman Жыл бұрын
I was interested in playing the IDS since the event was pretty dooable, but the mixed reviews and lack of premium income bonus have meant I'm holding onto the coupon for now. If those anti-ship missiles became competent and naval targets became more relevant, it would probably be worth it.
@furos9383 Жыл бұрын
whats the deal with dutch wt ccs being good at the game and having the best outros
@ee8475 Жыл бұрын
It got moved to 11.0 it can’t survive a minute in matches now
@nero756 Жыл бұрын
well.... like many other things related to gaijin... that didnt age well
@mafk33s8 ай бұрын
whats the tune at 1:40 ? I remember it for some reason but not the name
@coolgamingsick7298 Жыл бұрын
Mate the tornado is one of the most infuriating and fun aircraft I have ever played I grinded for the tornado assta1 with the su-22 and then grinded the tornado ids with the tornado assta1 I had the most fun in the tornado ids bombing 2 bases on 20m fuel and firing aim-9LS at side on f-5cs
@alessiogennuso4389 Жыл бұрын
AIM 9L at that br is so broken
@JorgeGarcia-pv6qf8 ай бұрын
so now the tornado is 11.0 and is worst i buy the new premium tornado or not
@j100j Жыл бұрын
I think wing ripping should not be a thing in war thunder unless you do some fuckin snaprolls or something.
@zeta4687 Жыл бұрын
tornado speed flying brick but aim9j shit now so i don't know and the other thing I don't know is WHEN THE FUCK THEY'LL FIX THE KORMARON AND RADAR don't give us antiship missile if you don't care about it at all gaijin
@StealthyShot Жыл бұрын
Lmao i was dead when i saw that total bs they just dont want to sell u the best or most new jet they have to offer at the time so u need to grind but .7-1 br lower is completely ok somehow though
@averagesnailgodpraiser3840 Жыл бұрын
Least it’s not the ML that’s the same as the MLA
@ho4xd317 Жыл бұрын
Что скажешь насчёт Juno: New Origins?
@user-my5yk4vm9h Жыл бұрын
it 60 GJN now...
@Codename_Horizon Жыл бұрын
How the hell am I supposed to use it once I buy it? It doesn’t show up in the premium plane tech tree for me.
@WalvisYT Жыл бұрын
Did you redeem the coupon? (Also, its extremely bad right now I would not redeem it...)
@Codename_Horizon9 ай бұрын
@@WalvisYToh alright, didn’t buy it cuz i didn’t know if it was even redeemable but it’s back in the premium tech tree now anyways so my question’s been answered.
@fish2279 Жыл бұрын
I want aircraft cus looks nice
@typicalstar6310 Жыл бұрын
bro I cant even see bots cards
@jacospies7418 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, i bought it for 35 gaijin coins and now its 40, should have kept it as an item, could have sold it