I have some concerns about Arena Breakout: Infinite...

Arena Breakout Infinite has some things we need to clarify before it comes out to the masses.
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[@NicholasAdamDemonte]

Free to play always means excessive monetization. I’m skeptical until proven otherwise.

[@FreemanBgTV]

Like me.

[@fubarexress6359]

Is they claim pay for looks/convenience BUT WE WILL SEE lol. I also remain skeptical

[@your-MrLamp96]

​@@fubarexress6359 pay for secure case. Battle pass, buying bundles. Supposedly p2w melee.

[@jorgel4867]

Their mobile game is a hit

[@Septicshites]

@@fubarexress6359 if its only cosmetic stuff i wont be mad but it wont be

[@EtherEcho-kr6ep]

Even though I didn't get access to the PC test, the mobile version of Arean Breakout is still quite enjoyable. At least I don't have to spend $250.

[@Hoodini0126]

went from "enough to say fuck tarkov forever" to "i have some concerns"

[@SirMcMuffin]

Companies be taken us on emotional rides lately, Helldivers II was the biggest one for me.

[@rickfastly2671]

@@SirMcMuffinwhat happened to helldivers

[@SirMcMuffin]

@@rickfastly2671 Sony sold the game with no region restrictions or PSN account requirement. Several months after launch when the game was bringing in a lot of players, Sony decided to region lock the game, preventing people who paid for it initially in those region from playing and they started to roll out PSN linking requirements. Imo I wouldn't have minded the linking requirement if Sony didn't get its data stolen every god damn year.

[@nicobenji0248]

I guess this is separate from the base game of Tarkov.

[@j0gi]

Remember everyone, streamers and YT content creators are an excite able bunch that have a vested financial interest in hopping on to the next hottest thing as fast as possible with little room for skepticism. Do not spend your money based off of just a youtuber or streamer.

[@PixelPulse119]

Trying out a free-to-play game comes with no loss, so why not give it a shot?

[@Victorgreat4]

Mabey worried about the rootkit kernel anti cheat?

[@realstasis]

Let me get my tin foil hat

[@1111Tactical]

@@realstasis You're mocking it as wild conspiracy theory, but that's literally what happens with Valorant though. The truth is even more tinfoil hat with that game, it's a rootkit kernel level anti-cheat...beholden to data sharing with the Chinese Communist Party

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

@@Victorgreat4 I hope you don't have Helldivers 2 then.

[@Victorgreat4]

@@ninochaosdrache3189 I don’t! Good comment 💪

[@godthor-gr9ti]

After playing for a while today, I feel that Arena Breakout Infinite has the potential to surpass EFT someday, at least it won't take 7 years of testing.

[@aldwynaustria1758]

I do agree, they just need to tinker with how they make money like the "cases", and fix a couple bugs and optimization for lower end pc's. If they can pull that off tarkov will have crazy competition

[@JustJulianMusic]

Yeah too bad it’s pay to win. With monthly subscription. And they’re not gonna add all those features Tarkov has. People don’t realize how unique BSG as a studio was, sticking to their game with a 1 time payment for 7 years of service updates and game leading mechanics. I mean they did these things in 2017. Why are games 7 year later subpar and being accepted by the community. Makes zero sense. Seems like people don’t truly understand video game development processing

[@justgaming8099]

@@JustJulianMusic monthly subscription is justifiable. You get a free polished game and pay for premium stuffs. Every weapon and armor in game is free you basically don't even have to pay unless you want cosmetics or supporting the devs.

[@eliteghost0001]

@@JustJulianMusic​​⁠​⁠”one time payment” of $250 lil bro😂. How a game can be tested for 7 years and make ZERO progress forward is what’s baffling to me. Audio still doesn’t work. The game still runs horribly (funny because grayzone runs better than tarkov for me). Seems to me that you’re the one who doesn’t understand game dev. Why you are meat riding tarkov is unknowable to me. That game makes no progress ever. They put more work into the new “unheard edition” than they ever did into their actual performance or game fixes

[@JustJulianMusic]

@@eliteghost0001 have fun with your tencent game. Not riding just stating facts. I’ve only spent 150 so idk what you’re yapping about and plus you’re just like everyone else trying to use belittling words to make yourself feel big. Must be 19 years old. Come with some real facts then we can talk. Saying Tarkov hasn’t progressed in 7 years when these clones don’t even have mechanics implemented that work flawlessly in Tarkov. And bruh it’s 2024 these games are shit. They ain’t doing nothing Tarkov did and nothing more than Tarkov did back in 2017. Talk about riding Tarkov. None these games can even be played with out Tarkov being mentioned…

[@Lucas93253]

Today's experience with "Arena Breakout Infinite" was fantastic. The server latency is low, the matchmaking speed is fast, and there's no lag while playing.

[@dusanvukobratovic7659]

are you even a real person?

[@Lucas93253]

@@dusanvukobratovic7659 God damn it, of course I'm real.

[@Hoodini0126]

p2w and micro transactions will end up being the death of this game. I hope I'm wrong but we'll see at release.

[@aldwynaustria1758]

​@@Hoodini0126a lot of people called it out, and hopefully like helldivers 2 the community wins and the company takes the knee

[@bangkokstallion]

180 ping is not low. Servers seem to only be based in the depths of asia

[@VALLANCEGAMING]

I just want to unlock shit by doing shit

[@negative6442]

Too rare in mp games these days

[@michalob21]

U unlock good equipment and many free rewards including season skin if you play well, all for free. Y'all complain wayyyy too much

[@user-lm2lt9uo5g]

You literally can do that in AB....

[@atlas2296]

So do that

[@Alex-vz2jz]

That's how the game works. You have to grind for all the items. You can buy items or trade in loot you find around the maps. By buy i mean in game money, no item in the game cost real money. Every single item can be obtained by a f2p player except for cosmetic skins and a few cases for storage.

[@bluetherobot]

Bro, I don't know who's gameplay you were showing, but it was hard to watch at some moments. lol. Great video as always man.

[@Falcon197]

Appreciate the fact that Bigfry addressed the issue with Tencent. Even beyond the CCP connection, the company has an abysmal track record with anti-consumer practices in their game production. I personally was hype about this game until I found out who was making it.

[@arkdowngaming]

PUBG is also from Tencent

[@chargedx5768]

​@@arkdowngamingpubgmobile is from Tencent Pubg I from krafton

[@thespiralgamer5374]

Tencent owns 40% of Epic

[@philippedrosi1335]

its tencent or bsg

[@dangluan92]

@@arkdowngaming PUBG *Mobile* ☝🤓

[@xlM3RCxl]

He said that there would be no p2w but convenience lol. Yeah that's also a problem! That means they will make things inconvenient on purpose?

[@oceanforth21]

it's a free game, yes that usually ends up being the case

[@xlM3RCxl]

@@oceanforth21 not always, there are plenty of F2P games that just have cosmetics only.

[@soullette]

⁠@@xlM3RCxlmobile player since launch here. I m an f2p, things r pretty convenient. The devs know how to balance things out.

[@xlM3RCxl]

@@soullette great to hear, I'll give it a try in beta this week!

[@hackerman1647]

on the mobile version the p4c is not a problem getting killed by one of thise players is not different than beig killed by a f2p. not to mention most of that stuff can be found in game or bought on the market. granted it will be more time consuming than just buying them (obviously) but you could have the best gear possible and still die to some naked rat with a mp40 and dum dum rounds

[@xsellcior]

I don't know how people didn't expect this kind of stuff from a Tencent game it's really not surprising

[@mikedebakker5820]

What kind of stuff?

[@ollie_2469]

@@mikedebakker5820payed cosmetic etc

[@xsellcior]

@@mikedebakker5820 micro transactions and pay for convenience, that sort of stuff

[@michael-zv5xq]

Pubg is tencent

[@ollie_2469]

@@michael-zv5xq and this? What’s your point

[@frostery1483]

Arena Breakout mobile already exist with microtransactions, but it really doesn't influence the game much. Sure you'd come across some pay-2-win players, but god damn it, those players are walking loot and they just don't know it yet

[@evelyngaming3299]

Arena Breakout Infinite's anti-cheat is excellent; so far, I haven't encountered any cheaters during gameplay. The gaming experience is much better compared to EFT.

[@JJ-ft6jb]

Are you a bot, the game just came out no shit there is basically none cheating yet, also its kernal level so its probably going to be less but at the cost of basically owning your pc so fuck that.

[@HolyXerxes]

@@JJ-ft6jb he talking about mobile version, it still has cheater but there is an anti cheat.

[@JJ-ft6jb]

@@HolyXerxes Well mobile literally has nothing to do with pc so i dont get the point.

[@michael-zv5xq]

@@JJ-ft6jbBattleye and easy anti cheat are also kernel level lol. More so EAC. what are they gonna do with your pc? Lmao this games gonna have micro transactions and p2w because its free to play itll fall off

[@wiwi_]

guys dayum, i play the mobile version and, at the end of the day, p2w player and f2p players gonna get obliterated by some leg meta gun main as well

[@MicavityCatYT]

I think its funny when people "click off because TENCENT" like Tencent doesnt own 80% of the gaming industry in the states already xD. Most popular games have investments from tencent these days. Epic games, Riot Games, Grinding Gear Games, ubisoft, funcom, splash damage, techland, bluehole, activision blizzard, paradox, hell even DISCORD. They are an investment firm with a heavy vested interest in gaming. MOST popular games these days are atleast 5%+ ownership from tencent.

[@tpraveenkumar]

Well said brother 👍

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

All while having parts made in China in their PCs

[@MicavityCatYT]

@@ninochaosdrache3189 bro right? Everything is made in china lol

[@OhhBlimey]

Man I knew this video was coming😂 Glad I'm not the only with these concerns

[@mightymushroom4980]

People moan about Tencent but forget that nearly every gaming company has Tencent as backers 😂

[@jvsv_5602]

there’s a huge difference between tencent being a parent company of a dev studio to tencent being invested in other games

[@cedricdavis513]

The Tencent argument is redundant because they own a majority of nearly every major developer and publisher anyways.

[@mastersnu810]

this , people bitching about "oh noo , its tencent, its ccp" while forget that tencent have share in almost every major game industry, also don't forget RIOT is owned by tencent

[@snikrepak]

​@mastersnu810 what's a riot? Get outside here ccp bots

[@locdogg86]

@@mastersnu810 the difference is the game was what it was before it was aquired. A game made by americans and then being bought is not the same as a chinese developed game with free to play monetization practices built with those in mind from its inception.

[@btiiithug9585]

@@locdogg86a game made by Chinese developers is almost better every time due to its optimisation and monetisation model not every Chinese made game is p2w look at arena breakout mobile it’s not p2w u can buy the same stuff for Ingame money

[@mastersnu810]

@@locdogg86isnt monetization that's basically most state of game currently? regardless where its being developed , but why hate on chinese developer especially is boggling my mind

[@everettatkepgroovin]

Why is anyone surprised that a free to play game is asking you to spend extra money? They cost money to make and maintain...

[@DemothHymside]

The concern is how much money is going to become necessary to compete down the road. Some f2p games end up costing exponentially more than normal games because you have to keep spending to stay competitive

[@justgaming8099]

​@@DemothHymside as a AB mobile player, they don't charge much(I only paid for battlepass) and paid elements are not game changing whatsoever. Although I could agree with Camouflage cosmetics being harder to see but it isn't much of an issue.

[@birbmafiamember4781]

@@justgaming8099 i don't think camoflage cosmetics makes you harder to see. Instead it makes you more suspectible for being a player.

[@justgaming8099]

@@birbmafiamember4781 wdym? Thats what camouflage do. You can literally differentiate a player from a scav from miles away, even with default clothing I would immediately know it's a player

[@deadlywrath.8636]

@@DemothHymsidethey don’t really charge much for stuff and they’re not particularly game changing that gives you a massive advantage, only real P2W thing you can argue is spending a few dollars a month for extra safe space that guarantee smaller potential monetary loss from each match

[@dipstick1031]

I'm a simple man. I hear tencent, I turn the other way.

[@btiiithug9585]

That’s why u haven’t played any game made by epic games and riot right

[@VORTEXPLAYXYZ]

better than 250

[@MarioTehNewOne]

I played arena breakout and ngl, as a free player you'd get more than enough equipment and rewards to be ln same footing as paying players. Even more if you got to kill them, since you could loot them and get whatever they paid for for that match.

[@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmz]

You say that to justify these predatory P2W microtransactions. Why are you blindly accepting having the ability to pay your way to progressing in the game?

[@ishuikamakura272]

​@@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmobile player here, I could say the same, I have 2 F2P account and 1 P2W, honestly didn't feel much of a difference

[@soullette]

⁠@@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzcoming here after spending extra money for the more expensive version of EFT to get to p2w? Arena breakout devs aren't as pathetic as BSG.

[@soullette]

@@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmake things up that don't exist. Predatory? Lol

[@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmz]

@@soullette I havent purchased EFT a day in my life, don't assume shit of me

[@FVDERS]

Did you see the shots they took at BSG's anti cheat while they were discussing their anti cheat? at 4:17 look at the image on that card he's holding.

[@mamrdevpraze]

Shturman my G.

[@TheMrPandabeast]

That’s the hacks that have been shitting on Tarkov.

[@CHA1Ntv]

lol

[@ajs3637]

Lol

[@shiro8493]

I downloaded the mobile version on my pc and before I started a game I suddenly got banned. NGL, their security is kinda good

[@ProdUnknown757]

you can’t use emulators. always an instant ban.

[@J4ygaming615]

Btw the closed betas in mobile microtransactions is turned off until the game is fully released(which fully released a year ago)

[@kpler_chen]

Nikita tries every possible way to swindle your money, unlike Arena Breakout Infinite, offers free play and doesn't expect anything in return.

[@Hoodini0126]

dude you're smoking pure copium just wait til release when they try to "swindle your money". they will 1000% be like "hold my beer Nikita". Tencent is known for ruining their games with p2w and micro transactions. To get a secure container it's $5 & $8 a month and that's just the container wait til people spend hundreds on in-game money and items.

[@lukask2489]

they expect you to either suffer or to buy their subscription based secure containers ROLF

[@AwesomeGuy2x]

​@@lukask2489 you dont have to though. Its supposed to be there for convenience as advertised.

[@TRAYBAG926]

⁠@@AwesomeGuy2xkey word “supposed” honestly the only free to play game that does it right is Warframe

[@cheeseteats]

You are an idiot if you think they're making arena for you out of love.

[@malekhekal4238]

Well, this is how every free mobile game ends, p2w

[@MyDaoust]

Quite the opposite.

[@MouldyCheez]

It's expected for a free game to have P2W or ads because they need the money for profit and support the servers.

[@ahmedbulje8318]

@@MouldyCheez but on mobile it is not pay to win so i dont see how would it be pay to win on pc

[@MercyB3ats]

It’s very hard to not win in this game as a solo, and without buying something at least on the mobile version of the game

[@clxireee1]

arena breakout on mobile isnt p2w,you just waste money on cosmetics nothing else

[@Ccubed92]

The same people talking about pay to win legit paid for eod on tarkov which gives your way more space in your inventory in game and your stash lol

[@sickmit3481]

If Stalker 2 is a great Game i really would love if they invested money into a second studio maybe in czechia or something that makes an extraction shooter in the zone. It would be so cool collecting artifacts with other Stalkers while shooting Mutants, Monoliths or Bandits and more. Could even be made like Gray Zone Warfare where every faction has a base and you venture out to do quests or go on loot runs in an open world.

[@Nick65444]

I dont care about buying kits but man the secure container being only paid on mobile is ridiculous its a monthly subscription just to get one

[@conflictvideo3014]

It's b**l S**t . They should have just include that in the battle pass. And make way for players to get it for free if not the biggest secure container atleast the middle

[@tpraveenkumar]

​@@conflictvideo3014 uhmm there IS a free secure container in ranked shop (temporary for 3 days) . You can buy it 2 times a week hence 6 days , the ranked shop will replenish, the cycle continues like this for me

[@Solidcambo]

That's what has me fucked up about this game too. Let me one time like tarkov

[@thisisalltrue922]

I mean what do you expect from a free mobile game. They gotta make money somehow. Its gonna be the same with the PC version. Battle Passes, Monthly subscriptions, P2W cosmetics or getting good loot early. Its sad reality even with like Tarkov or G2W

[@aiyumi5]

True but nothing game breaking or P2W.

[@CaptainTusk45]

It would be nice to get some.more of these shooters to console. Vigor is okay and DMZ was fun while they where still supporting but besides that theirs not much so hopefully they consider a console release in the future.

[@ForrestFPS]

If you're turned off by "tencent" uninstall anything Discord, Riot Games, Epic Games and more... Lol

[@sadig_alhadi5463]

concerns aside 2morow is the day we will see how things will go

[@TeamGodzilla-dw9on]

if you spend money on gear in the end you enter the raid with the same gear as everyone else. in the mobile version if u enter with a high loadout value the other players also have the same loadout value. its sort of like skill based matchmaking but for loadout value

[@justgaming8099]

No its not, I fought with thermal players with minimum gear. Even a rat will kill you in your precious Tier 6 armor. Their matchmaking is like the old cod lobbies even if you enabled rank points or not.

[@birbmafiamember4781]

@@justgaming8099 and tbh, more nicer that way. Easy t6 with dum dum rounds

[@AfkaSound]

TBH id sell my soul if just one of these companies that are jumpin on this train could bring back (the good parts of) 2019 Tarkov PVP. Labs as a game would be all many of us need. please! Anyone?

[@Blowkewl]

I left another comment but I think it got autohidden for mentioning another channel. Look at mobile gameplay for the TV station and armory maps. Very similar to old labs. A lot of raiders, pvp, and there is no fir, so you can sell player gear.

[@Stoaneh]

" Come on man " is fry letting us now he's got no Fucks to give anymore..

[@powerthrustr]

All he does is bitch about games with no good information or evidence, dudes a loser lmfao

[@freebrums4018]

Micro-transaction for this game will be for the locker box which like the gamma box for eft and expansion of ur stash. If you pay money for the battlepass, u can get stash expansions and premium currency. Mobile version does this so I'm expecting the same thing to the PC version.

[@panzerhund7836]

the convenience microtransactions have been in the mobile version since the beginning and i think it has not affected the game on a large scale. you pay for ingame currency, cases, and storage space and nothing more. anything you pay for can VERY quickly be earned by normal means. for perspective you can very easily hit 1 mil within a day, with a large Ebox being worth only 700k

[@lokucy77]

2:53 Alright what was that moan

[@BigfryTV]

You tell me

[@spinechiller567]

​@@BigfryTV pete diddy jumpscare

[@someguynamedmatt2907]

​@@BigfryTV*velcro sounds* 😳

[@aiyumi5]

Anyone who’s played the game knows it’s not P2W. You don’t even have to pay a cent to advance. Only thing you pay is skins and secure case but none of that is game breaking or takes advantage in-game. Anyone whose used real money only used it because they have no more Keons from losing so much or expand secure case. You can earn Keons in-game if your a good player you don’t even need to expand secure slots. Nothing in this game is P2W. It’s a free game that everyone can enjoy without paying. No game has a perfect anti-cheat programs. It’s how they maintain it. Compared to tarkov they already made a clear excuse why they can’t handle cheaters. So comparing the game is mostly just how cheaters handled and gameplay. For money there is no comparison.

[@Overlycomplicatedswede]

Making a shit load of money in the game isn’t hard if you have a couple good keys and are decent at pvp

[@aiyumi5]

@@Overlycomplicatedswede that’s the truth that’s why it’s crazy that people who never played the game or just barely played it think it’s P2W.

[@Overlycomplicatedswede]

@@aiyumi5 the game has mechanics that could be called P2W but in reality, having a lot of money and buying the best gear doesn’t mean you are at a unfair advantage as gear you use doesn’t indicate skill.

[@maulosujo8603]

You can buy kits in arena Breakout mobile, and you can earn builds doing missions and and challenges, daily logins, and levelling up on free or premium battlepasses. The cosmetics can be obtained playing ranked modes or buying battle passes. Arena Breakout is kinda rough at times but they give a bunch of gear for free players.

[@searchking91]

The spending money for convenience thing isnt a big deal, its like 3$ a month for a 2x2 safe container or 6$ for a 2x4 and fairly unnecessary, you can get a free 1X2 for bullets for 47 hours each week with in game points, theres also a hige keychain you can soend money on but the one you get from questing is more then enough.

[@searchking91]

oh yea, you can buy in game currency but whats the fun in that anyway, the people who are good at the game would never soend a cent on that

[@allen99525]

It is a Chinese free to play game, what do you think is gonna happen.

[@Joe-kl4vu]

Seriously, it would hurt their player base too much

[@BrotherO4]

gray warzone has p2w aka pay money to gain convenance too with extra weapons & stash sizes in their "Supporter packages"... no youtuber said anything. so Now a Free to play also has p2w is pointed out? ehhhhhhh i refuse to buy EOT due to that i refuse to buy Gray Warzone due to that and I will refuse to play this game due to the same thing. consistency is key, So at least you provided me with the information for this game so i wont even have to bother checking it out Edit: unless the game has a PvE only mode... where i dont even have to worry about facing mister Deep pockets

[@birbmafiamember4781]

Played the mobile version here. The cases are not really that of a game changer unless you are a bad and you can also get them for a free at the seasonal store. Even if you face some dude who uses irl money it's useless because you can still them and claim the gear they got.

[@Nuppy11]

Nobody say they gave a lot of free conteiners for 3 days, and you get 2 free conteiners from the free battle pass for 3 days, also the rank store you can buy 2 conteiners

[@STROOPWAFFELgg]

can anyone help..i have been accepted to the beta however the website isnt reachable..ive tried on phone laptop pc desktop tablet nothing..it wont open so i cant even download the beta and i have heard nothing on the twitter

[@justgaming8099]

Try again on a different date or with better internet connection

[@STROOPWAFFELgg]

@@justgaming8099 thanks man it worked this morning!

[@Dcully]

Any idea if there will be a pve only chill mode?

[@justgaming8099]

None

[@ajs3637]

No.

[@poskitrol]

If f2p means it will be p2w, can tarkov be considered p2w? cuz u have to pay for cheats to have a chance

[@SSG1445]

Tarkov is 100% p2w sir, there is no question about it

[@renarenacat]

I don't mind paying for convinience like stash size,xp boost stuff like that as long as its pricing is reasonable. I think paying you should be expected to pay some money to fully enjoy the game. I think having a premium subscription like in ESO is the best way to secure stable income for the studio and not making the game "Wahle-able". Its healthier for the game to have crucial feature behind paywall and have most player to pay like $10~20 every few month than have $100 skins.

[@joshuastowe4618]

I’m amazes me how expensive things like insurance are in these style games. Tarkov and vigor alike, hell vigor is like $1 or more each match for insurance

[@GamingGrenade1]

You have to appreciate the irony of a studio called "More Fun" offering microtransactions to make their game more convenient

[@ahmedbulje8318]

we dont have any pay to win microtransactions in our games. Everything in arena breakout is and will be cosmetic

[@MosinMan12]

@@ahmedbulje8318not in arena breakout mobile where you can buy money

[@FTECH_MARAUDER]

Batter then 250$ lol

[@boolshit234]

As if current paid games don't have microtransactions.

[@Obnax]

you dont need it tho lmao,you just gonna get fancy jacket and thats all,just that

[@FINALB]

Dumb argument to not give any data to Chinese developers but there is no problem to accept any terms of service from any other app or software with live service that you download on your phone or PC for data collection. 🙄🙄

[@tryctan2399]

if they go the path of exile way selling inventory space or xp multiplyers i woudn't mind honestly, as long as the free to play inventory isnt just 2rows.. also more f2p games should have a free version and a payed one..

[@justgaming8099]

In full release there are no storage wipes, you keep what you keep. About the 2nd phrase, cod in general will benefit from this, multiplayer is shit and should be free, campaign should be paid.

[@NamelessPassenger]

They will have microtransaction but on the minor battlepass vs subscription. Where you use money to get certain advance when use real money. But i think it’s still fair cause they just use real time and money instead of spend hours to grind. And of all, i think it’s also a good one for those who want to jump in with friend and enjoy their precious time.

[@ajs3637]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[@hakzource8660]

Never heard of Chinese company called “morefun” yeaaah…….not touching it with a 10 foot pole

[@specialoperatorlolbit8671]

Microtransactions in a FREE TO PLAY game is better than microtransactions in a game who's best variant is literally $250.

[@MicavityCatYT]

this

[@conflictvideo3014]

The mobile version have subscription for secure containers on top of a battle pass which are pretty expensive.

[@ajs3637]

The secure containers are extremely cheap. The BP is 5 bucks and the ultimate one (that provides no extra p2w just more cosmetics) is 15 if you feel generous.

[@Faucco]

The thing is, if the game is like Tarkov, but free and without a container case (only obtainable by purchase) would it be pay for convenience? Yes. Would it be okay? of course. So we just have to wait and see

[@GamerZone3]

Ever wanted to buy Weapons, Armor, Rubles with real Money? Then it’s your lucky day you will be able to buy in game currency and Gears with real money in Arena Breakout Infinite. Good luck

[@REDACTED__007]

Goof comment

[@Nuppy11]

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[@ss-engage6243]

T5 gear on a inexperienced player hell yea😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋

[@pw6545]

I mean, their mobile game already is technically pay to win. The elite battle pass, you can pay for a bigger safe storage box, you can buy in-game currency and then used that towards lvl 6 gear that you don’t get in any free rewards methods. Yes, you could grind for all of it and the game gives you enough gear to work with but even those more expensive bullets topping out at over $1,000 per bullet, which you’ll need just to survive in some of the hardest levels and seeing as though I’ve been one shotted through a $200,000 helmet from a cheap gun with cheap bullets, it does have a very pay to win aspect and the the way they do cosmetics makes you end up paying $25+ for a weapon skin. It is a good game. Considering the levels and everything are essentially the same, it’s too bad there isn’t any cross progression

[@Teefs143]

You're right, Sade says RNG made this game p2w. Rng is designed to make us lose money.

[@madness_a]

Я за 2к часов не увидел снаряжение T6, видел только комплект Т5. Я должен проверить это

[@pw6545]

@@madness_ayou have to buy the t6 equipment from the market from other players. I’ve been in full t6 gear with the $200k helmet that blocks your whole face, whole head and I was undamaged…one shotted from a mosin to the back of the head with the purple bullets. Starting to think that the t6 armor is just a joke and not worth the money. Started sticking to tier 5 because I don’t see a difference tbh.

[@madness_a]

​@@pw6545я неправильно понял твой комментарий, я думал что ты про донат валюту.

[@adamware8639]

@@pw6545 Doesnt sound p2w to me if the cheapest gear can beat the most expensive

[@stevebutters306]

Gotta love optics mounted to a non-monolithic handguard. What's zero retention?

[@boppsicles]

Mag release on tha left is driving me nuts and why is the laser always on

[@chrisbenn]

WHAT! Why do players not write the game off for being a mobile game make for PC?! That's the biggest tell of them all!

[@ajs3637]

Cause it's being remade. Plus the microtransactions are fine on mobile unlike CoDMs and PUBGMs. Those are trash.

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

Because some mobile games are actually fun.

[@chrisbenn]

@@ajs3637 ok :-) lets see how it is when it comes out!

[@chrisbenn]

@@ninochaosdrache3189 if you can get an advantage with your credit, no! It is pure trash, and I have not seen any mobile game where you cannot just SWIPE your card and get an advantage!

[@adamware8639]

Ive played the mobile game quite a bit, The micro transactions are skins, a bigger secure container(like Tarkov) and kits. Most people wont even buy the kits for real money because you can loose it to a shitter with a double barrel shotgun. It doesn't give you more health or any major advantage, its a free game. How else are they going to make money? Should they have a 250$ version? Plus they have a in house anti cheat, which matters more for fairness that microtransactions. ABI's AC can detect DMA cards.

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

Having a 40e pack that removes all MTX like SMITE does would be a good option.

[@lucca.machado_]

i play the mobile version, the things you can buy: t4 gear + gun (mid) season pass (gives u t4 + weapon ad ammo packs ) a safe 2x1 or 2x2 i only buy the battle pass and its more than enough for me bc i get high end gear the “legit” way and the t4 from the pass is basically a “casual match stash” that i use when i dont mind loosing loot also, the safe can be bought every week with ranked currency it doesn’t get in your way unless you suck at the game and compesate w wallet also if you dont play scav and use the market to make extra currency edit: theres also a monthly subscription 40k weekly/daily (cant remember) and a safe its 25-50 R$ here in 🇧🇷, imo this is a waste of money, id rather buy a 6 pack of budweiser with this 25-40 reais

[@Omygames]

More extraction shooters need anti cheat systems like The Cycle had. Where if you died to a cheater, and that cheater later got banned…you would get your gear back from that death. It made the frustration of dying to a cheater a lot more manageable

[@sgt.greenbean4155]

1 view in 27 seconds. Fell off

[@rig0rmort1s]

154 views in 2 minutes, irrelevant

[@ajs3637]

53k in 2 days. Washed up.

[@renarenacat]

1 view in 32 sec bro fell off Edit:you guys are so mad you should drink some milk lmao

[@stellarthealiendeer]

Screw off with this trend

[@zdono]

@@stellarthealiendeerwhy you mad it’s literally a joke 😭

[@renarenacat]

@@stellarthealiendeer Me too I'm doing this ironically

[@BeegBeegYoshi.]

Another original, super funny comment. Great job!

[@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmz]

@@zdonoJokes are supposed to be funny :^)

[@FlameOfRoyeca]

The mobile version has subscription stuff in it for free loot/storage space/kit and they're quite pricey but the game itself is pretty generous by way of daily challenges that grant free money and/or kit. Idk about its current monetization scheme but they were that way in the closed beta and launch of the mobile version. Never felt the need to subscribe to it other than extra storage space, and yes, there are stashes that the vendors are trading for some required loot just like Tarkov, so you probably dont need it unless you like hoarding stuff to sell more stuff in the flea market which is quite fun itself. One thing I can say about this game, even on mobile, it's polished as f. i hated it on mobile because i suck on playing fps on it, but it's actually beyond decent. You can see the money that went to it. It's as if they've consulted some experienced western devs to work on the game. It's a great alternative for the more punishing Tarkov and the game feel isn't far off either. Idk if I can trust Tencent software on my PC though

[@cldomed550]

None of these KZbinrs have actually played the mobile version, not even touched it, so I am not gonna be surprised of the reaction to the release

[@venturetales7131]

Dude can you stop complaining about games that build their own business model The mobile version is free to play you can pay for cosmetics as well as the convenience of furthering your gameplay just because it isn't the game you want doesn't mean its going to suck.

[@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmz]

Did the devs pay you to comment this or are you that daft? WE DONT WANT TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE INGAME CURRENCY OR THINGS THAT WILL FURTHER PROGRESSION. **What** don't you understand about that?

[@MX_RYDER]

We'll see how it goes, im jsut glad grayzone and others are emerging to challenge BSG and maybe overall improve the extraction shooter genre.

[@ishuikamakura272]

Okay Fry, if you don't wanna play this maybe don't join the beta, no one forces you

[@ogcookiemonster4649]

As an avid mobile player you can buy currency and you have to buy bonds which unlock more storage space

[@ogcookiemonster4649]

Also you don’t get gear back they half ass give you med supplies

[@ajs3637]

​@@ogcookiemonster4649you must be a newbie considering how Joel only gives painkillers when you have started the game.

[@rootntoot2215]

I can see them doing some cheesy things like exp buffs and bigger secure containers but idk we will just have to see but so far really enjoying my experience

[@birbmafiamember4781]

So far in mobile there are no exp buffs. Everything else is grindable.

[@darkshadowsaver]

Kinda makes me wonder how they will treat the steam deck / linux users that will be interested in the game

[@AndiKoehn]

Well, at least it's free to test a few hours or even days before throwing any money at them. I'm a simple man. If it runs well for me on my sys, if they will have good anti cheat, and I'm having fun, I'm good with spending a few bucks on some more fun. If it sucks, I didn't loose anything.

[@ajs3637]

Exactly. Wish everyone was like this.

[@chrow8649]

U missed the funfact while they talked about anticheat that the guy holds a Tarkov DMA card in his hand... :D was kinda funny.

[@Executioner59]

Here's what I'm hoping, they said personalization too, aka cosmetics. So they obviously know that's the lesser volatile option, lets hope they are smart enough this time to maximize that to the fullest first before they consider starting the convenience side of the monetization.

[@ajs3637]

Yeah. AB on mobile has cosmetics. Buy em or grind ranked for them.

[@Executioner59]

@@ajs3637 Well my comment aged like milk, you have to rent your gamma container, not sure why thats their first monetization option, should have been the last.

[@robertmravunac5765]

how exactly are they suposed to earn money without monitization?

[@GreenOne01]

I think having a huge company backing it with an extensive track record of successfully monetizing games like this almost guarantees a higher level of organization overall. They'll have their plans for future development & monetization established in advance. The playerbase might not like it, but at least they know what they're getting into.

[@karsonturner-xt6ob]

its not pay to win you can buy a couple of gear bundles and their is a battle pass but their is a free version that still give you a lot of stuff and the monthly subscription is nice but you can buy containers with the money you earn from raids and if you do spend money on gear you can still get one taped by someone who is f2p if you don't have the skills to back up the gear you have on it doesn't matter you will still die. and you don't even need to spend money on currency you get it at the end of the season if you play

[@killpop9546]

Cant wait to buy my pink ghilie suit

[@J.E94]

If the only so called p2w or whatev is a big secure/safe case then that's fine imo, if you can get a smaller one from some type of grind, event or even battlepass then that's ok since it's a free game. I'm expecting cosmetics and bundles being pumped out like crazy and if the game is good, they will make good money from that. Do it like cod in a way.

[@bojeppe6828]

welo i really needed a video while sick :)

[@1xICExVIPERx1]

Well it is a free-to-play game if nobody likes it then you can just delete it and not worry about it

[@r4hsn18]

Been playing the mobile version since the first beta, it is S4 on the global version now. I have reached 20 mil without even topping up once. This game is completely skill based. topping up will only give you convenience like currencies to buy better weapons, but it doesn't matter because you'd still lose them if you suck.

[@JCityGaming10]

The “Chinuhhh” was gold.

[@GoodOlMericanGamer]

Shit fry you know we appreciate your opinion all the time my guy or we wouldn’t watch, keep up the good work as always bro! ❤

[@TorussB]

i hope that they are talking about container size and stash size but not actually buying credits or guns in the game in terms of monetization...

[@birbmafiamember4781]

Nope. There are nothing like that. No guns behind a paywall although there are guns locked in factions but are usually obtainable after completing faction missions and choosing a side

[@TorussB]

@@birbmafiamember4781 thats good, sadly players do have to buy containers with real money

[@tazuehl88]

Big shoes to fill. BIG shoes. If they deliver… game changer.

[@GamesforCykits]

Alright lets get into it but Big fry you should talk about the tarkov spt mod and give your thoughts

[@dhockedy1273]

What the hell did we expect its a free to play extraction game

[@FalconHgv]

Honestly I hope they keep most of their stuff from mobile and just build on it. I do not mind the monetization there at all, since mostly is just xp/skins and cases/items in the battle pass. Though one thing I'd like them to do is remove the ability to hear better with better headphones, cuz I'd argue that is kinda dumb, and optimizing it better for pc cuz damn 2060 + 16gb to run the game is crazy. Other than that I'm pretty satisfied with it's current state on mobile, and seems most of players are too, and I hope it at least delivers a better experience than mobile.

[@yea0276]

If minimum specs will be similar to gzw...than good luck to me

[@justgaming8099]

This is for first beta only, full release will be more optimized and have lower spec requirements

[@graygames8631]

they already said they are going to release subscription based monetization similar to their mobile, meaning a case for gear as well as cosmetics to your characters. people easily forget they run servers an keeps things updated by paying devs. i understand people not liking it but they need income or you get deals like bsg an there random bs unheard edition an terrible servers.

[@dimebag4204]

I'm conflicted about the paying for stuff in games although when a game comes out for free can you really expect anything less how are they supposed to make money there has to be huge costs associated with putting these out so you have to figure they have to monetize some ways so would you rather pay $100 for the game where do microtransactions I guess it's really a toss-up

[@FilthyPeasantGaming]

Convenience and personalisation is exactly what they should do in a F2P game, as long as you cant pay to buy a thermal straight up.

[@Unknown_Genius]

getting a thermal straight up quite literally would be convenience tho. In all honesty it can't be worse than gray zone warfare randomly starting to restart my PC without having any issues hardware wise and without me being able to force an emergency restart with anything I try otherwise - which then even forces me to restart again because I get lag spikes after running it for even 5 minutes or getting that emergency restart. Simply because that's just straight up not beatable by anything.

[@alexandrupatrascu2402]

If Bunny skins will be added = R.I.P.

[@rakeavicksanguiniusherald3415]

Straight up will not let me even play it because my 1070FTW that can run GZW on low decently does not meet their requirements and the game will detect that, and pull a Todd Howard.

[@justgaming8099]

Because its beta, they want players with capable machines to test it first before they roll out optimized versions. You'll get to play it on full release don't worry

[@FreemanBgTV]

3:17 and this game have high requirements!? OK my pc it probably good but my friends don't have and I want to play with them.

[@Qwertyen12345]

minimum is RTX 2060

[@FreemanBgTV]

2060 for Mobil game.

[@dvsdonz2063]

I dnt care about micro transactions for a game thats free to play i think all games should follow suite i mean its a choice if u purchase them not a requirement like it is to buy a game to enjoy it