Alex, the paper you want is "Thermal Modifications of Starch During High-Temperature Drying of Pasta" (Cereal Chemistry). I believe the complete pdf is available online.
@looh2 жыл бұрын
I work in the Print and Media Technology Industry, and even tho its sounds weird, when making paper and drying it, there needs to be a little bit of moisture left inside the paper otherwise it will get brittle. I assume thats the same with pasta, it needs to be dry, but there needs to be some percentage of moisture left in them to not get brittle.
@ThatVideoGuyTom2 жыл бұрын
I think also, the fact some dry different means that the moisture might not be evenly spaced throughout the grains.
@kys76152 жыл бұрын
yeah this might be the case, when we make fresh pasta at home and let it dry naturally overnight they still retain moisture, also another point the drying temperature was too high in my opinion, for pasta I'd say 45C max
@FrenchGuyCooking2 жыл бұрын
12.5%
@dmaifred2 жыл бұрын
@@FrenchGuyCooking you'll just have to moisture probe each piece every few minutes. :)
@brentrebrab2 жыл бұрын
@@FrenchGuyCooking tried to take the likes from 12 to 12.5, but to be honest...my like button sucks and i ended up making it 13. I feel as tho i needed to monitor my like button, and leave a percentage of unlike in there to achieve the desired result. I will try again, in the next episodes comment section.
@shadowmage362 жыл бұрын
Chemical engineer with experience in high-solids mixing and drying here! You're running up against film formation in your pasta, it looks like. As the pasta is drying, the outer layer of the dough is forming a skin, like if you left any sort of dough out for too long uncovered. If you were just air-drying it, or weren't using heat to speed up the process, then there would be no problem. Then water could just evaporate off the surface as it made its way there, regardless of the skin slowing its movement out of the pasta. However, by adding heat, you're generating a driving force within the pasta that's forcing the water out of the interior of the dough. When it runs into that skin on the outside, it acts like the shell of a kernel of popcorn. The pressure inside the pasta builds and builds, until the shell cracks and the water can get out. Sometimes it gets out all at once, like your shattered pieces. Other times it causes the dough to move as the moisture within moves around looking for the path of least resistance. Tl;dr: I would suggest just running your dehydrator on its lowest temperature setting, or without any heat at all, and just letting the convection fan do its job. I'd be happy to explain the details of what's happening inside and at the surface of the pasta (in excruciating detail, if desired), but I don't know if your viewers would appreciate half a page of differential equations describing the effects of kinetic vs. transport limitations on drying processes...
@davideselmin801821 күн бұрын
yes.
@ChuckLeclerc162 жыл бұрын
Hello Alex, I am a food technologist and I suggest you to find on the internet the diagrams of drying for pasta. You should alternate heating and resting phases with different air humidity. It's a little bit tricky but you can do it!
@FrenchGuyCooking2 жыл бұрын
This.
@jpjay15842 жыл бұрын
@@FrenchGuyCooking if you had a separate Dry Aging Fridge for making Salami, Coppa, Jamon, ... you could dry the pasta there) set temp and humidity. DIY fridges can also heat (not sure, yours can do it) or you build a humidifier into yor drying machine....
@doolittlegeorge2 жыл бұрын
@@FrenchGuyCooking yes absolutely. Great addition to going Insane Mode already with Espresso so for that I thank you.
@Mr_Chaffee2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex! First of all, love the pasta series! Secondly, I have some experience with extruders and one thing that you're doing "wrong" is using a steel knife to cut the pasta at the bronze die. Remeber that using a material with equal of higher hardness will lead to scratching. This can, over time, cause some trouble (uneven extrusion pressure). Also NEVER use a steel tool on the extruder screw! I have seen 10.000 euro screws ruined because someone scratched it with a screwdriver when trying to remove some stuck material or forcing materials down the hopper. So, for the bronze die I would advice you to use a plastic knife of fine plastic wire to cut the pasta as this will be unable to stratch the die itself. As for tools to use on the screw itself, we used bronze or brass. They are both still hard, but less than the steel of the screw. Love your video's! Keep up the amazing work!
@nitraM3212 жыл бұрын
he should buy the electric rotating knife ? or make other, longer types of pasta, you just can’t cut rigatoni by hand in an effective way
@ophello2 жыл бұрын
*videos. Not “video’s.”
@christopherkarr18722 жыл бұрын
@@ophello Pedantic, not pedestrian.
@ObservationofLimits2 жыл бұрын
A couple scratches on the extruder auger itself won't be an issue. The bigger issue is creating burrs on the die edges.
@nitraM3212 жыл бұрын
@@ObservationofLimits yes ok, but he should have bought the machine that has an automatic knife if he wants to make short pasta, his method is just not accurate and sustainable, i have visited the site where he bought the machine i spent HOURS there, it's easy to buy the wrong model, and he did, it's just not compatible with any automatic knife
@hoodwynk13892 жыл бұрын
Alex has now transcended and BECAME Skill Share, itself!
@QckSGaming2 жыл бұрын
Just a "small" thing. The extruder head seems to be made of brass, which is softer than most stuff, which means that almost every knife you use, will cut into the brass on every pasta slice, mixing brass shavings in your pasta. You will need a special knife setup for this.
@wich12 жыл бұрын
And also mangling up the die, which might be negatively impacting extrusion quality
@thalanoth2 жыл бұрын
use plastic knife, problem solved haha
@giovanni-cx5fb2 жыл бұрын
If it's a decent pasta extruder, the head is made of bronze, not brass.
@maqywhaq2 жыл бұрын
Fimar(the machine Alex has) suggests a bronze brass die, so the exact hardness is kinda up in the air. On the other hand, even with brass, unless you've got a very textured die or are cutting at very aggressive angles, you shouldn't really be cutting INTO the die...
@PierceyeG2 жыл бұрын
Go back and watch the first couple of episodes in this series. The bronze die is integral to high quality pasta. It roughens the surface of the pasta, creating much more surface area for sauces to stick to. Typically speaking, the cut is going to be made at a precise alignment every time, specifically to avoid contact between the blade and the die.
@459_nilavratbera42 жыл бұрын
11:03 The problem here is that you dehydrated them too quick.....which just extracts all the water from inside the pasta.The pastas cracked because it extracted all water from inside it at a higher rate. You need to dry them while keeping the air flow at minimum and temp. at 47 - 49°c....to dry them from outside yet maintaining some moisture to hold it's shape and not getting warped.Some pastas were getting warped because they're drying too quickly from inside..before even drying and setting into their structure.
@tomazulaga56692 жыл бұрын
What you are stating about the drying technique is nonsense. The dehydrator is a heater with a fan, which means that the primary type of heat transfer is by covection, followed by a far lesser impact of conduction. In simple terms a dehydrator just blows hot air around in a closed space.
@thalanoth2 жыл бұрын
@@tomazulaga5669 seems like he's confusing a dryer with a vacuum dehydrator.
@459_nilavratbera42 жыл бұрын
@@tomazulaga5669 So.....if you are correct;Alex just needs to turn down the temperature to 47°c - 49°c with a lot less air flow.
@459_nilavratbera42 жыл бұрын
@@thalanoth Yep. I got Confused.
@Cosmopavone2 жыл бұрын
Noooo, 47°- 49° is waaaaay too high.. Home made pasta has to dry at 40° for 12/24 hours..At least it's what tradition says and how my grandma used to do it.
@peter23272 жыл бұрын
Lesson from potting with clay in elementary school: do not set it in the sun, let it dry slowly in the basement, otherwise it will crack in the oven. the other reason for cracking was using too much water to make a fine even surface.
@christophpoll7842 жыл бұрын
I did pottery semi-professional for some time. We had an old fridge back then, put the stuff inside and left the door open (and the fridge off) for about a week. Also evened out the moisture in the parts. That may be an important part: extrude the dough, then let is settle at relatively high moisture so the water can even-out. And then dry slowly.
@Ewr422 жыл бұрын
does it actually become proper ceramic tho?
@KainYusanagi2 жыл бұрын
@@Ewr42 Ceramic is made by firing the clay after you let it get bone-dry, since firing beforehand will cause the water contained in the clay to boil, causing it to rupture the piece. No bueno.
@Ewr422 жыл бұрын
@@KainYusanagi makes perfect sense. Thank you
@mukinha2 жыл бұрын
This man is so good at story telling... Jesus, 12 minutes of making dough, extruding, drying and it is awesome! 😆
@michelhv2 жыл бұрын
Alex from the past: “I want professional-level quality at home but I don’t want to setup a factory.” Present-day Alex: buys industrial-strength gear.
@RealAndySkibba2 жыл бұрын
This series changed the way I shop for pasta. Fantastic. That is a gorgeous pasta machine.
@kaspetto2 жыл бұрын
you're a star, glad you're back at it here. i'm a western food restaurant owner in china. I can't tell you how much greater my food has become by watching your vids and learning from your processes. I love your fearless nature. cheers
@riccoratzo2 жыл бұрын
We have a similar, but bigger machine at work with different pasta forms and a automatic cutter. We dont dry the pasta, we put it in the freezer. We make a lot pasta at once and store it in the freezer, when we need them, we take it out into the boiling water... works perfect.
@riccoratzo2 жыл бұрын
We use SSS semolina, our machine can take about 4 Kilo of dough, it mixes it self. The ratio is 3 litre of SSS semolina and 0,5 litre water and 0,4-0,5 litre whole eggs, 3 ts salt
@PascalStifani2 жыл бұрын
Alex, I'm such in admiration when I see the comments. It's like everyone is trying to help you succeed. I love it.
@3darkn1t2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has worked in a kitchen that made our own pasta with a proper heavy duty extruder, first thing I was taught was to do a 2:1 ratio of flour to liquid. We used a mix of egg yolks and water with semolina. Next thing, when making the dough, we would have everything mix in the extruder on the knead setting until it fully combined and came together as a crumbly dough, not crumble. While the point made in the factory episode by Monsieur Felicetti holds true at an industrial scale, you also have to consider temperature and humidity, the two hardest factors to control when making a dough. Finally, in the drying process, it was mentioned that their method of drying included gradual removal of the water from the pasta in phases. From my experience as we freeze dried our pasta, the goal is to minimise damage to the gluten present in the dough which holds the key to maintaining the shape of the pasta. As such, it can be hypothesised that your drying process was too aggressive for the pasta to handle with the rapid water loss. There are pointers from Pastaevangelists who noted that homemade pasta made with the recipe you used should be dried at room temperature and for 12-24 hours and i'm guessing that you did the same back in episode 4 of the series where the orechiette you made were left to dry on the bench overnight. Just my thoughts and comparison between what you've done to my experience. Issues like these have a lot of factors and more than likely, for yours it's just too aggressive and too rapid drying. i would suggest 32-38 celsius and check in 2 hour-4 hour intervals to see how it goes.
@chilipez29342 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Your dedication and perseverance has paid off! For drying, I strongly suspect that your temperature is the problem: too high. Gradual is the key, not only for maintaining shape and integrity, but for colour, as well. Cheap dried pasta is a darker yellow, as it appears it's how your dried pasta looks like. Low and slow!
@maqywhaq2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the same thing, and I suspect what Alex needs to do is not use a dehydrator so much as use a high pressure/low volume airflow and do his drying with low temperature delta drying... I'm sure it can take a decent amount of temperature input, but the amount would probably depend more on experimentation...
@Lou_Snuts2 жыл бұрын
Yes, low temperature and time spent drying is the key. If you look at the labels of the "top quality" Italian dried pastas, you will see the words "calore basso" (low heat).
@KainYusanagi2 жыл бұрын
60*C is actually pretty common low temperature drying for pasta, but it requires moisture control!
@ophello2 жыл бұрын
It’s “how it looks” or “what it looks like.” Never “how it looks like.”
@maurosmorto2 жыл бұрын
I used to work in an Italian restaurant and the chef used the very same machine for making his pasta. I hated it. Because I was the cleaner 😂
@TheGogeta2222 жыл бұрын
The friend of my sister has to do the same so he took his Kärcher with him for cleaning xD
@gnewman182 жыл бұрын
What is the machine ? What brand?
@whomegaluul40312 жыл бұрын
Alex you forgot to put this video on the pasta playlist!!!! huge fan btw you're a big inspiration to me. I'm lucky that you document everything you do through these videos, so I as a teen can watch and learn without having to go to italy myself (: you are helping shape the new generation of chefs
@arthursnoeck2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was about to comment!!
@ntotao2 жыл бұрын
Just an hint for you as most of the comments are already reporting the right suggestions: The drying process requires a balance between temperature and humidity, you don't just put pasta in a dry oven! You need to let water come out of pasta from its core, gently and slowly, so you need to keep the oven humidity minimum at 60% in the first part. Afterwards you can lower humidity and set temperature to 70 Celsius degrees and you are good to go ⚡
@Lou_Snuts2 жыл бұрын
The type of extruded pasta is also important. In your illustration, you went straight for the widest "rigatoni" shape, approximately 38 mms, if my guess is correct. This type of tube pasta has a wide space, allowing more air circulation,and alternating ridges of different thicknesses. This needs a minimally higher hydration of the semolina mixture. Also, a combination of equal parts of coarse ground and finely ground durum would help. As a suggestion, first try a very narrow buccatini die with a longer noodle, a lower drying temperature and a longer drying time. The narrower space of the buccatini would be better to start the drying process. One additional factor is important. Specifically, the proportion of the durum and water mixture needs to be adjusted for each type of pasta that you plan to extrude. You can get some clue to the proportions for specific types of pasta which tou plan to exyrude by speaking to the Mono Grano people.
@deesh63782 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that the drying should be low and slow, not high and fast. Drying too fast at a higher temperature causes a lot of stress to build up, which can lead to structural failure. Drying slower and colder ensures that it has time to balance out built-up pressure and dry more evenly as well.
@Lou_Snuts2 жыл бұрын
I use a Bottene Lillo Due, which produces uniform texture. But first, you need to heat the die. Place the die on a pan with water and slowly bring to just unde a boil. At the same time, mix the flour mixture with another die in the machine to prevent spillage and mix as usual. Once the first die is heated, stop the machine and remove the secondary die, replacing it with the heated die then extrude and cut. The drying process is your problem. It needs to be done on LOW HEAT over a long time. The temperature that you use was too high, causing cracking. Better to place the extruded pasta on a drying tray made especially for drying pasta and let it dry at room temperature for several days. As an example, top quality commercial pastas, like Mono Grano, are dried at "low heat" for several days in special temperature controlled drying rooms. On the packages of these high quality pastas, you will see the words "colored basso," meaning "low heat." But even I'd your extruded pasta is not fully dry, you can still cook it, since cooking it in water is the way to re-hydrate it. Thus, if there is some residual moisture prior to cooking, just adjust the cooking time and taste periodically to determine doneness. Bon chance e buona fortuna!
@davidpadfield83532 жыл бұрын
Alex i use a La parmigiana d55 pasta machine Just watched your video It appears to me your mix is too dry ( a little) you also air dry in ventilated trays You can also bag it fresh with a small amount of rice flour
@NonEuclideanTacoCannon2 жыл бұрын
The last job I had before my current job, they spent $30,000 on a pasta extruder to make "fresh" pasta, only to dry it out. It was very similar to this, just much larger. It was frustrating. The recipe was basically a fresh egg pasta recipe, which they would then dry out before use. One of many things they did completely backward. We had a few dies, but they mostly used the shell die, which makes for a really bizarre fresh pasta shape. But if they had simply not dried it, or used a semolina and water recipe, it would have been fine.
@fabiobarman2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex when I was young my mother had a dry pasta shop and i had working wit her, and the dryer were at room temperature between 25-35 and let the pasta dry for 2/3 hours, but the basic things was that the all dryer pasta machine has free flowing air , and not recycling the hot air, so for example new air from the bottom pushed up by the fan , and than is freely to disperse from the top o it. Hope you will find the sweet spot of the drying process.
@genussdersinne01 Жыл бұрын
May I ask what you used for a recipe e.g. how much durum wheat semolina and water ?
@Awreppe12 жыл бұрын
Great looking rigatoni! I own a small pasta company in the US. It's possible to make really good looking pasta with the Phillips Avance pasta machine. It's only $300. I use the Phillips machine at the moment to make all my pasta. On another note: you can substitute the water with beer or wine for your pasta dough and it turns out fantastic. But anyways my company is called Newport Pasta Co. located in Rhode Island in the US. Feel free to check it out. I have about 25 different pasta dies.
@coreym3675 Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, did you create the pasta dies to work with the Philips Avance pasta machine or did you order them from Philips? I only see four different dies on their website for this machine. If you made them, do you also sell them? Thanks!
@TheAndragn2 жыл бұрын
Used to work at an italian restaurant, and we found out by boiling the die before putting in on the machine would help us achive a perfectly smooth pasta everytime. The heat helps it to slide out og the machine
@tonybaloney58772 жыл бұрын
The DeCecco pasta box says it is slow dried for 18 hours….low temp, longer time. Love the videos!
@shiningarmor28382 жыл бұрын
The best part about these videos is the little progress bar in the sponsor section. I can skip the advertisement without chopping off little bits of the actual content that way.
@Cosmopavone2 жыл бұрын
...If you respect the content creator and appreciate his job you should not skip the advertisement...that's what gives him the chance to give you good content...this is basic youtube user knowledge..
@shiningarmor28382 жыл бұрын
Alex has told us about Skillshare many times, and his new course is mentioned at the beginning.
@malcontent_12 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex -- you're like a culinary Calvin & Hobbs, always adventurous, mostly trouble, reliably hilarious
@ophello2 жыл бұрын
*Hobbes
@melckyrva222 жыл бұрын
This has reminded a bit about cooling down VERY HOT GLASS . Molten or just extremely hot glass has a severe problem of un-even-ness (english isnt my first language either so bare with me here)of pressure between each crystal that makes up the piece, so it needs to go trough a process called annealing , where you basically make the temperature of said piece of glass go down little by little, over a long period of time , so that each crystal can cool down and relocate themselves and even out the pressure between its neighbours . Now i am no glass maker or pasta maker , but to me it seems like a similar issue is happening here , where certain parts of the semolina that makes up the pasta are getting hydrated at different rates and so drying at different rates, making for an uneven amount of pressure between each grain , which escalates over time to make for large patches of uneaven parts inside the pasta, which causes it to shatter and crack. I think maybe a slower drying process with lower temperature and or allowing the pasta to rest in it's water for a certain period of time before drying could make for a better result Although again I am no pasta professional or glass professional, (tho i am aspiring to get an astrophysics degree rn) so this is merely a guess , but i thought it could be cool to mention it Idk
@morristgh2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't going to be a smartass but you wrote about your astrophysics degree and so I think you may be interested. Glass is not a Crystal, although the raw material is crystalline. Crystallinity means something is ordered and has structure. Crystallinity means you can see diffraction patterns, glass is amorphous.
@iamchillydogg2 жыл бұрын
Bear. Bare means naked. 😉
@juliaf_2 жыл бұрын
@@morristgh heh yeah isn't the definition of glass essentially an inorganic solid with an amorphous structure
@ophello2 жыл бұрын
Dude stop typing spaces before punctuation. Do you see anyone else typing that way? Look at a book.
@juliaf_2 жыл бұрын
@@ophello some languages do that. English may not be their first language. Chill
@FlandraLabs2 жыл бұрын
I'm living on this pasta series. It's all I'm eating these days!
@HamelinSong2 жыл бұрын
@@sonacphotos Not if you it it with ragù, 😉😉
@BrooklyKnight2 жыл бұрын
I just always love how he gets really into the meat and potatoes of whatever it is he wants to make. Like for most of us, if we wanna make a pasta dish, we're probably gonna just use storebought stuff or maybe if we feel like it use an egg pasta. But Alex always just goes the extra mile to truly get behind the scenes into the dishes he loves. As a worldbuilder, and conlanger I respect that lol.
@TheSpartanMoose24532 жыл бұрын
I may or may not have shouted "we did it!" when the pasta extruded.
@FrenchGuyCooking2 жыл бұрын
🤩
@jodywhite72862 жыл бұрын
I'm a large scale pasta manufacturer, the problem can be the drying but likely it isn't in this case. From what I see it's either 1. The flour + water mixture isn't even 2. The flour isn't ground fine enough/ there are some larger particles that need to be sifted out that he cant see with the naked eye. #2 is the most common reason which is why on our equipment we have a built in filter before the die. Both cause minor clogging of the die, especially at the narrower parts/ lower parts of the rigatoni shape (the bottom of the ridges which are narrower spaces for the flour to be forced through). One small particle clog will cause it to not tightly form because part of the extrusion hole is blocked (extremely tiny and hard to detect while it's extruding) leading to hairline cracking during drying.
@frankblom85462 жыл бұрын
Love the fact the box says "FRAGILE, made in Italy" 😂
@14ther7172 жыл бұрын
This was a resounding success no matter the drying process. Congratulations Alex!!! I’m happy for you.
@ericlotze77242 жыл бұрын
On a related note, can you release the CAD for the pasta/ramen machine you and “This Old Tony” made? It would be absolutely magnific if we could replicate the design!
@KubedPixel2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video.. obviously.. without a doubt. Anything that's wet that cracks during any drying process means it's being dried too fast OR too hot. Try at 50c for the same time or 45c for the same time and see the difference. The next thing is, don't dry it out completely, get it to say 90% then let it cool/dry naturally, by doing that the pasta will acclimatise slowly and the tension in the pasta will ease as it's cooling.
@jabenhaim2 жыл бұрын
Hi, always a fan of your videos and can't wait to see the culminating of your journey through the dry pasta mastery. Would it be possible to post the brand and model of the pasta machine that worked well once this series is at the last episode. If love to add this to my home appliances, my kids love my fresh pasta but would be fun to start the dry ones too. Thank you for your eternal curiosity
@JakHart2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this series since the beginning of it, and it's been quite the journey. A few weeks ago, I started a new job, working for an Italian pasta restaurant. Everything we cook is from dry pasta, except our lasagna and ravioli. I'm really starting to understand and appreciate dry pasta so much more thanks to what I've learned here, and what I experience there. (The thing I'm really loving, is learning how to make such amazing dishes like spaghetti carbonara, Fusilli alla Roma, and Capellini Pomodoro.)
@nikitaananjevs40942 жыл бұрын
Love these series, I have made huge improvement in my pasta cooking. Thanks Alex for revealing all the Luciano secrets;))
@scacchino2 жыл бұрын
Come on... not exactly all of them. :)
@ManWithBeard19902 жыл бұрын
It might help if you try drying them at a lower temperature, and rely more on air circulation and less on heat to do the drying. That could help the pasta shrink more uniformly and avoid breaking
@tamastorok24432 жыл бұрын
Finally, can't wait to watch it
@timurshahauthor2 жыл бұрын
Your visuals and sound design just keep getting better, which is awesome! The cooking and pasta content, however, has always been an A+!
@sifrade2 жыл бұрын
why does this series feel like a thriller? I'm at the edge of my seat: is it going to work, is it going to break?
@gregmuon2 жыл бұрын
Success! Or at least most of the way there. I love this series and I'll be watching with bated breath for the next episode. FWIW, my Italian nonna/grandmother dried pasta on coat hangers indoors during summer. Maybe this isn't the most helpful hint for rigatoni... 😁
@VidkunQL2 жыл бұрын
_Bated_ breath. (Sorry, I can't help it.) And maybe he could use the teeth of a rake.
@gregmuon2 жыл бұрын
@@VidkunQL Ugh, no worries, you're right. I didn't proof read. Yesterday I typed _hear_ instead of _here_ ....
@ShayanGivehchian2 жыл бұрын
You can't deny the content that Alex makes is like no other culinary channel on KZbin. Hats off to his never ending creativity.
@Dlehnerswe2 жыл бұрын
Salut Alex! You know that you really need some extremely overengineered arduino-controlled knife attachment for that pastamaker ^^ As always, wonderful content.
@lechatbotte.2 жыл бұрын
Alex the only French guy I know whose obsessed with the perfect Italian pasta. I love when he shops online successes and fails. Water content is a big part of food, art and so m any things. Now I’m lusting after his pasta machine marone.
@ericlotze77242 жыл бұрын
What model machine did you get? Also if i ever get one I’d love to use an affiliate link to support you!
@gagamba91982 жыл бұрын
Appears it's the La Fattorina. Runs about 800 euros. It offers plenty of bronze dies as well, each starting at about 100 euros.
@schmu792 жыл бұрын
The failure in the pasta drying looks like what you see when wood is kiln dried too fast. It’s referred to as case hardening. There is likely an optimum moisture content in dry pasta and and specific drying curve. Too fast or too dry and the pasta breaks from the internal stresses. Might need to brought down to specific moisture level then left for a while so the stresses can work themselves out before taking it to the final level.
@luc74782 жыл бұрын
this Series made me apreciate how lucky we live in the 21st century where everything is prepared to us, you dont need to make pasta from scratch at home, just go to your supermarket and buy whatever you like.
@Anthony-jf4ns2 жыл бұрын
Not only pressure but we use to refrigerate the dies . Pressure creates heat keep them cold . Pasta will dry reasonably quick
@karamfaiz13242 жыл бұрын
Ok but that first piece of pasta... His expression changed from smiling to wtf did I just waste a shit ton of money.. 😭.. but yes.. it was just the first few inches..thank God ... They look so niiiiice tho 🤌🤌🤌
@pedrodinis202 жыл бұрын
To make this right, you have to experiment, sample and map different drying curves T(t) while sensoring moisture content (etc.) in order to see which sweet spot returns the perfect output :) An arduino-based solution to automatically control your Sahara oven would rock! Also, as a future TODO thing, it surely would contribute to perfection trying to mod the extruder's mixer so you could do both pre-mix / final mix in a approx. vacuum environment and feet it to the extruder screw
@Trotaaa2 жыл бұрын
First the pasta machine from This Old Tony and now this! 🤩
@LazarusWilhelm2 жыл бұрын
Finally! the carbonara deviation was nice, but this is the true purpose of the series!
@2DevilliveD2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I thought you would make you own machine xD
@MrBlueBurd04512 жыл бұрын
If anything I was hoping he'd give Tony a call again.
@MyWillbot2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex. From someone who has a pasta machine like this (Bottene Lillo Due) you will need to make a bit more water in your dough when you extrude and dry the pasta. It is fine when you go right to water to cook. But your dough needs to be wetter before drying. Otherwise it cracks upon drying vs solidifying slowly. Hope it works.
@deborahokon665 Жыл бұрын
What's the ratio of flour to water you use normally?
@MyWillbot Жыл бұрын
@@deborahokon665 3 parts semolina 1 part water. 3 Cups Flour, 1 Cup Pasta. If using whole eggs; one whole egg per cup of flour, and then water to fill the rest of (1) cup total. If only making 1 cup of pasta for example, use one whole egg, and fill the remainder up of water, until 1/3 cup.
@MrKlarthums2 жыл бұрын
You should get a time lapse of the drying next time. You may need to do a staged drying process: start low and progressively ramp to higher if you need speed. Or just stay low for a long duration. Being too dehydrated could be an issue, too, which can be ruled out by adding some dried commercial pasta side-by-side into your dehydration process and checking. You could rule out the noodle shape having higher stress concentrations and being more prone to cracking by producing and dehydrating some spaghetti.
@mightyfp2 жыл бұрын
I love the vocabulary of ESL speakers! Luminosity is a brilliant word. Bravo for your use of such ... colorful .. word selection
@EduardoWalcacer2 жыл бұрын
The italian chef Vincenzo, from Vincenzo's Plate recently released a video where he rates commercial dry pasta and explains how slow drying is so important for the final quality of the product.
@marcobaldi96972 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Alex! it's great to witness the joy in your eyes from the gratification and the effort you spent in your passion!
@jean-claudevandal50692 жыл бұрын
Wow! Merci! What a great and very entertaining video. I was suprised when it was over and saw the video is nearly 13 minuts long. Very VERY interesting stuff you are doing and knowing i will probalby not be trying out any of it in the near future but it is still a great process to follow. Merci beaucoup, super video Alex!
@vwrocco172 жыл бұрын
Alex the intro has the respect line from a really great episode of CHUCK, it makes me smile every time thanks for including it!!!
@bozovrulez2 жыл бұрын
The reason why you are getting warped pieces right after extrusion is also gravity-related. The dough is still warm enough that, when it comes out of the extruder, its weight is letting it slightly collapse: to help with this issue, many industrial machines have the extrusion head facing downwards rather than sideways. So, either you find a way to cool down a little bit the dough (or the extrusion head) or you adapt the machine in a way that the head points to the floor 😅.
@oliverradio14482 жыл бұрын
I often make homemade pasta. I found that the best way to dry the pasta is at room temperature. In this way, the pasta dries slowly without cracking and the pasta becomes light in color. It will also give the best consistency.
@rand0mati0n2 жыл бұрын
4:55 caught me off guard cause Alex doesn’t swear often, but pretty perfectly encapsulates my reaction to that behemoth lol
@Joe___R2 жыл бұрын
Just let the posta air dry with a light fan at most. One other potential flaw I can see is that it might help to let dough hydrate for 1/2-1 hour before extruding.
@QwertiusMaximus2 жыл бұрын
Box: **FRAGILE** Alex: Drops it on the table
@sillygolf142 жыл бұрын
The pasta machine series is what originally got me interested in this channel so extremely glad to see another episode in the pasta machine saga
@Vormulac12 жыл бұрын
It's so good to see you get a successful result with the new machine. I imagine the drying process needs to be longer and cooler, but that's just an intuitive guess as I've never made dry pasta. Good luck!
@cephaspottery81932 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited to see how this works out. I've watched your ramen and pasta maker situations. You finally went for the big one! Thanks for the video @Alex
@neutronalchemist32412 жыл бұрын
The higher the drying temperature, the higher the humidity in the dryer must be, to allow the internal humidity of the pasta to migrate with the correct timing, without breaking or warping it.
@rexochroy22 жыл бұрын
Salut Alex. When you said 60 degrees, to be honest I knew it would not work, unless you had a wind tunnel. I have worked with freezing precooked pasta and rice. It has to freeze extremely fast not to stick together. It takes ca 85 seconds to reach minus 32 c . Wind speed in the tunnel is twice that of a hurricane. Invented in Denmark. So it needs to be slow and using a dehumidifier so it will have some humidity left and slowly so it is under control. Been here for a while so keep up the good work 👌👍
@strumf20072 жыл бұрын
you need to dry the pasta under controled temp+ariflow. Think about about Italy's wheather when u are doing this, replicate them in your garage and BOOM, you'll get the best results. Let's say for the start 32 Celsius, litle humidity about 60% and a fan on low speed will do that.
@MJKay922 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode Alex! When those first great pieces of pasta appeared from the machine, I FELT that shift from nerves to excitement. Top notch cinematography!
@Miles79552 жыл бұрын
As some of the other comments have mentioned your temp is too high, They're usually dried either in a dry room or sometimes outside from what I've seen in Northen Italy.
@JonasDieltiens2 жыл бұрын
I work with fresh wood. The hardest part of working with green wood is the drying process. It has to be consistent and slow. If you want to dry too quickly, the pieces will crack because of internal forces. My first thought with the cracked pasta was what I feel happens with wood. You wanted it to dry too quickly. Lower the temperature! :D 30C is more than good enough I think!
@yumedan2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Alex, I love how you keep on taking us with you on your fantastic journey through the world of food. It always gives me so much pleasure watching your videos!!! Mercy beaucoup!!!!
@yumedan2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha typo mercy with a y.
@2vegetto2 жыл бұрын
Hearing you say you've got your own class on Skillshare, made me smile. So happy for you, Alex!
@CoolBriefs1232 жыл бұрын
At the restaurant I work at we use 30% hydration for our pasta dough. We mix it in the machine itself only, but we add water in two batches. We also dry it at room temperature, but for an hour at most. It should be hard but still a bit playable
@PiqueMacho12 жыл бұрын
My guess on the dryingproblems would be Way to High temperature. At 60˚c you Will likely start to cook the pasta so the starch Will start absorbing the water. If you look at the closeups of the dried pasta you have some very shiny areas which are likely hydrated starch molecules. This Will reduce the free watercontents localy around the molecules which could make Them very brittle. I appologise for the radom Capital lettering - the iPad is acting up apparently
@helentsay2 жыл бұрын
Alex, so excited to see you created your own skillshare class! I clicked and joined in without a second thought.
@draetsch2 жыл бұрын
Very dramatic, I love the reverb on machine assembly. Nice Video, Thanks!
@guypehaim10802 ай бұрын
It looks as if your mixture is too dry to start with. It is true that you want it somewhat dry so the individual pieces of pasta don't stick together, but you have to strike a balance.
@careylee25952 жыл бұрын
Congrats! My motto in life (one of many) is “2 forward and 1 back, still good!” My other one is “better than before”. Keep up the good work.
@bunssmith99882 жыл бұрын
I think you had amazing results not because of the pressure, but because of the metal extrusion dies.
@eriklee6786 Жыл бұрын
@frenchguycooking Alex your Dry Pasta Series playlist is missing THIS video, which I believe follows “I Bought the Cheapest Pasta Machine…” Much appreciation 🙏 Salut from California!
@robohippy2 жыл бұрын
With the first pasta samples, my first thought was your mix was too dry. Not any kind of pasta expert, but do love to eat it. With the cracked pieces when you put it in the dryer, I am thinking of wood, since I have had a wood shop for 30 years, and most of the wood I work is green and I make a lot of bowls. #1 rule about drying wood, is that if you attempt to dry it too fast, it builds up stress, and stress is relieved by cracking. I would guess your temperatures in the dehydrator was way too high. I would go with air drying, unless you have large quantities. Maybe just a small fan and in the kitchen.
@NickBlacklidge2 жыл бұрын
I don't even like cooking but I keep watching because you're a great storyteller and I enjoy watching the process. well done!
@warrenhawk2232 жыл бұрын
Alex, would you please post the model number and perhaps where you got this machine? What about runner ups? Not sure if this machine is affordable for occasional use or not. My KitchenAid extruder is so slow that an upgrade would be sweet.
@mathieucretier85232 жыл бұрын
Alex, i guess this is why you're french. Precision, precision and precision.
@jklphoto2 жыл бұрын
My adage: "Never buy cheap tools." Well done Alex, that is a beautiful machine. You'll get the drying process sorted. I'm interested to know how they do it in the industrial setting. There in, lies your answer.
@sengchiang19922 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Alex! You made it! Been following nonstop through out the process. Salute!
@Nilguiri2 жыл бұрын
You're getting there, slowly but surely. Can't wait for the next instalment!
@nonohino2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex! Really loved the filming, editing and the pace of this episode!
@tony_25or6to42 жыл бұрын
The crack is where the tube comes together once through the die. Basically, the seam. The center of the die cannot free-float, so it is suspended on the sides.