I KNOW What's Coming in Kill Team SEASON 2

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

My read on “unique terrain” is that each set is going to be tweaked to evoke the part of the hulk you’re exploring that expansion. They implied in one of the hype videos that there’ll be parts that are from Xenos or Chaos corrupted ships, so I can see wall sections with eight pointed stars etched into the walls or where unfortunate victims have merged with the bulkheads or a Genestealer lair.

[@tiberiumnp8030]

And I believe they said in some article that they indeed work together.

[@philurbaniak1811]

That would be awesome! 👍👍

[@ArynCrinn]

"The Gallowdark has a history that stretches back long before its discovery by humankind. More recent Imperial additions to its ancient mass give way to strange alien craft as explorers venture further, and its time in the warp has merged its constituent parts into strange new amalgams of alien and Imperial tech." The fact that they don't specify it predating the Imperium, means that those strange alien craft could be anything... Aeldari, Necrons, Tyranids, Ork, T'au.... even things from minor races that have never been on the tabletop before. I just hope they don't try and pass off the Pariah Nexus box terrain in one of the expansions...

[@philurbaniak1811]

@@ArynCrinn I love that description! 😊👌 It's almost October, just launch me into Spooky Space already! 😆

[@ArynCrinn]

@@philurbaniak1811 Yeah, the description makes Jay's prediction pretty tame to be honest.... I think we may see some more unique stuff from the non-Imperial teams this season.

[@thomasbrittain4343]

"Greyknights won't get anything because they haven't gotten anything for 20 years" Preach it Brother!

[@mrgoober6320]

We got one thing in the last 20 years, and it was the baby carrier. Sadge.

[@KaldorDraigo66624]

As a fellow brother of titan, it makes me sad haha 😂

[@Gablork]

I felt this in my soul. Just give us something that is not a Power Armor!

[@AzraelFM]

There are more chaos cultist than grey knights kits now.

[@pingASS_]

@@mrgoober6320 that baby carrier is probably the model I dislike the most.

[@OrangeRustyMetal]

I love the Pariahs idea. Would be great if GW returns them like that.

[@Sleeper_6875]

If they did genestealers vs terminators I’d absolutely buy it with my brother, would be absolutely awesome to see a ton of genestealers vs very few but very powerful terminators

[@slanahesh]

If they resurrected classic space hulk teams in one of these boxes it will probably be the best selling thing in recent GW history.

[@Deus888]

Sadly, they missed a great opportunity. GW will never learn

[@titusthehuman8922]

I hope we get that

[@ArynCrinn]

Would rather get a separate Space Hulk game that just happens to use the terrain. A single kit of 5 Terminators would be a big downgrade from previous editions of Space Hulk... and Genestealers just don't really offer much in the way of specialists for Kill Team (not unless you include Genestealer cultists at least)

[@thenerfkid9228]

I think shadowvaults might be custodies, more specifically shadow-keepers.

[@Tical386]

That would be awesome! Only thing I could see them not doing that would be that the unit count would be small

[@Tical386]

Unless they have lots of time interchangeable units for custodes that you could switch out in the roster, but that would be a lot of work for them I think lol

[@khaosbydesignuk946]

I really want Daemons but I feel like they'll be more likely to get a team in a WD article than a box.

[@glovehandles]

Putting Terminators into Kill Team seems less odd when you consider the fact that they already have a Custodes team. Based off 40K stats (and lore) Custodes are stronger than marines in Terminator armor.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

Even more so when you realize that spacehulk isn't that far off in scale

[@joshy7759]

I'm thinking that there's gonna be an Inquisition kill team (featuring gland warrior!) Given the rumor engines.

[@gro3302]

Honstly I'd be really happy if they did a custodes KT box and just rereleased the custodian guard box with a saggitarum upgrade sprue

[@henrybartholomew3314]

Here's my prediction for the 3 kits: - NEW Custodies vs Squats (with the idea being that they're both after the contents of the vaults) (also, I'm fairly curtain that Shadowvaults is a custodies thing) (Also also, the very first trailer that we got for the new Squats was one arriving onto a space hulk, so maybe that was a secret indication that they would be in a kill team box) - NEW Inquisition vs Reimagined Demons (or some kind of World Eater unit that has to do with souls) - NEW Necrons vs Reimagined Tyranids (tho that is a total shoot in the dark)

[@MorphicGalaxy]

I’m betting something Demonic is going to be in Soulshackle. Maybe Daemons… But I’m thinking of a form of Chaos Space Marines. Maybe Thousand Sons, as they have a bit more to do with Souls than World Eaters in my opinion.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

Given that no terminators for world eaters have been announced other than the special wh+ model, they could be saving them for a kill team box. I'd love to see an inquisitor or legion of the damned box, but I don't think we'll get either. Terminators vs genestealers would be very popular though, evoking space hulk memories. However the rumours are that next year, 10th edition will drop with new space marines and tyranids, which could line up nicely if a kill team box expanded on those new models.

[@timm7305]

Is this similar to how you knew genestealers were in the kill team box out next week?

[@BB-pn2qv]

Yeah, getting that vibe as well.

[@TheSkeletonVA]

Kek

[@aydengartenlaub]

Yea I dont watch Jay for his ‘informed’ speculation

[@trovarion]

My mom did indeed love the plastic DKOK.

[@carcionpetto]

similar situation, my sister kept asking for DKOK so I bought the box. All in all Kommandos ain't that bad, same with kriegs but she looked kinda disappointed to me

[@EonsOfBattle]

My mom was going CRAZY with excitement!

[@fredrikhultman557]

My wishlist: Grey knights vs demons Squats vs nids Adeptus Arbites (not Custodes as I wrote first) vs someting Kasrkin vs something else, perhaps Drukhari...

[@euansmith3699]

Squats vs nids: revenge is a dish best served on over-heat!

[@mrmartoo3079]

You've missed that the Warhammer+ Worldeater terminator has also this spacehulk base. So probably a Worldeater faction in the third or last Killteam.They also habe their codex comming so its very safe to asume that the Killteam with these terminators launches to the realease of the Worldeater Codex

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

Given no terminators have been shown other than the wh+ model it is a pretty good option to do. They know world eaters will be popular, putting their terminators in a kill team box to coincide with the we launch would certainly boost sales, though probably with some complaining.

[@Crossbow-xy4xg]

I'd be ecstatic if Dark Eldar and or Craftworlds got rule upgrades. They both need some love as they are criminally neglected as for now.

[@davidgarcia-wb1yn]

They were addressed with the Voidscarred. They are an amalgamation of both factions, and to the better I'd argue. Both Drukhari, and Craftworld were lacking something in their Compendium versions. I don't see them building new teams for factions that have already received the "bespoke" treatment. Sadly, that also means that my beloved Tempestus are not going to receive different rules.

[@michaeljdauben]

@@davidgarcia-wb1yn like the OP I'd love to see a bespoke Craftwould Kill Team. To me the Voidscared are not an acceptable substitute. I'd like to see a Craftworld team with some Aspect Warriors mixed in with the Guardians.

[@ArynCrinn]

@@davidgarcia-wb1yn Counts as Kasrkin?

[@ChrisHeinking]

You forgot about Daemons, Custodes, and Dark Eldar when you mentioned which factions don't have a bespoke team. Last season, we had four white dwarf teams alongside the four boxed sets, so its safe to assume we'll have the same. That means 12 slots for new teams. We know two of them are the kroot and breachers. Then there are 7 compendium teams without a bespoke team that are most likely getting one this season. Karskin are likely as well, leaving only two slots for entirely new teams. Then we have World Eaters and Votann which are new 40k factions that will probably be the last two slots. As much as I want an Inquisition kill team, it doesn't look likely unless GW is gonna have more white dwarf teams

[@MekBoooooi]

40k Terminator fans! I'm actually homebrewing Terminators for kill team rn! Nothing op, I just translate what we know based on how they have done things already. Basic stat M2⚪ APL 3 GA 1 Def3 SV2+ W 18/19 Heavy gunner will have M🟦 Deathwing Termination Squad 4 models Leader: Deathwing Terminator Sgt, Librarian, knight master Specialist: Apothecary Knight Heavy gunner Warrior I'm also adding unique Abilities and ploys for each if the variants Deathwing, Blood Angels, Space Wolf Guard, Deathwatch!

[@primeknight4274]

How can I keep an eye on this because you are a GENIUS

[@tiberiumnp8030]

Actually most of these are quite plausible! Especially if the rumors come true of 10th ed (starter box?) having new terminators and tyranids, I can see a KT box supplementing that.

[@flipnutdodad8841]

I want there to be no leaks around this. I am actually excited about this. The suprise of the upcoming release was awesome.

[@annasstorybox7906]

I'm still waiting for my guard codex... Wanted to start into the hobby with 9th edition, picked my grim dark army-men and now I'm waiting. I got the octarius box for the Kriegsmen and the terrain. I've yet to have the patience to put up the Orks for sale. And I'm waiting for the blood bowl amazons that they already showed. I'd love to finally get at least a release date for both that codex and the amazons and I'm still hoping to see some more plastic artillery for my masked guys.

[@luckyu6273]

If I had to bet since we just got Daemons, guard should be next followed by Leagues of Votann then World Eaters. Unless GW decides they actually just hate guard players as much as they hate tyranid model releases.

[@XVDAW]

@@luckyu6273 Votann is almost certainly going to be next and proably pretty soon, they had almost their entire roster revealed already and they were announced a while ago. Guard is probably going to be end of the year and WE is going to be early 2023, with Space Marine 2.0 afterwards.

[@luckyu6273]

@@XVDAW I'm pretty sure they are playing the slow game with the Votann release trying to build hype for a November/December launch while people are willing to also spend extra for Christmas. Where as Guard is probably gonna drop late September/mid October. Unless they think they can pull bigger numbers coinciding the guard release with Darktide in late November. But only time will only tell what GW thinks will make them more money.

[@XVDAW]

@@luckyu6273 They already reveal 99% of the Votann roster, they said there will be a big announcement for Votann tomorrow at Nova and they have been building up hype for them since April. The only reveal for Guard they have done so far was a leak that was shown several months before they planned (same as WE). The chances of Guard being before Votann are almost zero. Votann will be Sept/Oct and Guard will be no sooner than Christmas.

[@creon3866]

You should have waited and bought the Vet guard box on it's own.

[@ripdot1904]

Compendium Factions/Subfactions that do not have custom teams already released - Grey Knights - Adeptus Custodes (and Sisters of Silence) - Necrons - Chaos Daemons - Tyranids - Death Guard - Craftworld (counting corsairs as Drukhari) - World Eaters - Leagues of Votann (squats) Lore Factions not currently in game which wouldn't surprise me if they get teams in boxes - Dark Mechanicum - Haemonculus Coven - Inquisition - Officio Assassinorum - Adeptus Arbites - CSM Raptor Cult - Traitor Sisters (Sisters of the Night) - Exodites - Other Astra Militarum Regiments (probably Catachan or Kasrkin) - Ork Freebooterz - Eyes of the Emperor (Retired Custodes) - Black Ships Crew (Sisters of Silence) - Space Marine Specialist Units ( Bladeguard, Eliminators, Eradicators, etc.) It seems like GW doesn't like to release box sets for specific legions/Subfactions that don't have their own book in 40K or which you can't include into a broader array of armies. Therefore, I find it pretty unlikely that they'd make a KT box for someone like the Legion of the Damned. Extremely curious about Terminators inclusion in KT. Putting aside the spec ops theming problems, it seems like the models cause problems with Line of Sight. Because their heads jut out the front of the body instead of sitting on top of the body, it means that the rotation of the models becomes an important factor, and that may be a level of fussiness that GW doesn't want players to have to litigate at the table. "My genestealer is standing in the open directly behind your terminator, but you cannot overwatch it because your Terminator only has Line of Sight in the way it's facing"

[@DanaHowl]

I think you're basically correct with your predictions (but I think we'll get one really weird Kill Team thrown in there that no one could predict) and I really like your idea that the new season of Kill Team will more or less tell a single story. One thing I think you missed though is that this story will be the precursor to Warhammer 40k Tenth Edition, with the events aboard the Gallowdark serving as a sort of leadup to the new edition and a preview of both new ranges.

[@stormlives6051]

It would be fun if Gallowfall featured Squats/Leagues of Votann, where the destruction of the Gallowdark is caused by the squats mining the space hulk for resources. But I wouldn't mind if the squats came in one of the earlier packs. While terminators and genestealers are a perfect combo, I think it would be cool if squats opposed nids since they are the cause for the previous squats' extinction.

[@adambeckett8394]

Hopefully GW will let some imaginations run wild... For instance: Druhkari Haemonculus Cabal (Loads of freakish fleshcrafted wracks, etc), Fabius Biles' Chem-warriors (warped & enhanced Emperor's Children Chosen), A team of Tau Empire Mercs (Vespids, human allies and maybe even some xenos we haven't seen before), Inquisitorial agents (Take a leaf from the old Ordo Hereticus Codex from 4th ed, Dark Heresy, Inquisitor, Darktide etc). Maybe teams based on individual Ork Clans/Aeldari Craftworlds. The possibilities are vast, when you put your mind to it.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

Could be a good way of replacing the resin models they withdrew from sale this year, which included some drukari, ork and space marine models.

[@caveychip7]

I had some cool ideas being: Necron assassins Skitarii with a nautical theme Inquisitorial witch hunters And chaos corrupted tau Because..... why not?

[@beng6149]

I'm excited to collect a bunch of models and terrain from such a cool environment. I wouldn't be mad if I was tempted to buy every box!

[@JBAIMARK3]

Dream: 1. Xenos Expendables (3 Tarellian (light grunts), Nicassar (psyker) , Loxatl (sneaky), 1 **xenos** demiurg + drone (techie) ,1 flashgit (heavy), 1 Nekulli (leader)) vs **New** Vespids, 2. Pirate mutants vs Pisceans (wildest wild card that I think would sell out) 3. Rak-Gol vs Inquisition (+Kasrkin) vs Hrud, Other xenos options: Stryxis (Slavers/war-profiteers), Hrud (??), Q'orl(mi-go??), Thyrrus (war crazed tentacle snails) 4 . Thyrrus vs Vostroyans (really out there), 5. Catachan vs Megarachnids (little vanilla but totally marketable) 6. Freebooters vs Dark Eldar Mercs (Sslyth, Loxatl, Kroot, Techno-Barbarian) Likliest: Truescale Terminators vs Genestealers (Less keen for genestealers tbh, but I get it's been a while for nids, I hope they throw in some special classes though) + Squats vs something else. A win for me would be seeing something extra other than Kroot, Aeldari, Tau, Necron and Tyrannid for the xenos. Actual demiurg that were xenos would be nice.

[@UnitRico]

I haven't gotten into 40k/Kill Team yet but two of my favourite 40k factions are Harlequins and Thousand Sons, and since both have an absolutely tiny range (maybe that's part of why I'm drawn to them, considering I've mostly focused on the LotR range so far) I'd love to see them get some love with a unit in Kill Team. Terminators vs Genestealers definitely seems like a given considering they're going for the space hulk theme, though.

[@PaxImbrium]

According to the Reddit leaks from last year/early this year, we might be getting a custom Harlequin KT they includes a new harlie unit. The only historical harlequin unit not currently in the game is the mime, so I'm seriously hoping that it's harlequins. Would certainly fit with the "reimagined old thing" role.

[@ArynCrinn]

@@PaxImbrium Yeah, very curious to see how that rumour turns out after they got the Void Dancer Troupe in WD... No other faction has had both a WD team and a boxed team.

[@TitanosaurusProductions]

Awesome predictions! I actually had an idea for, coincidentally, Inquisition vs Pariahs in Kill Team myself months ago, but I never thought anything of it. It’s cool to think that might be a possibility! One of my other ideas was Hereteks vs Knight Houses, with Dark Skitarii and Servitors facing off against an Imperial Knight and their household guard (keep in mind I’m referring to the human pilot, not the giant mech).

[@pauladair8998]

I got a feeling about the Space Wolves 13th Company... I would love to see something them come back in some fashion

[@frannyfranfrancis]

gallow fall is a reference to when you get hung. They called them gallows and the fall is when the open the floor under you and you hang from the nose around your neck

[@slanahesh]

I think we can 100% say one of the boxes are going to include daemons. Simply because in one of the reveal videos on warcom they talked about the next expansions to the gallowdark and they specifically referred to "denizens" which is usually used to refer to daemons.

[@captainsewerrat]

Prediction 1: Kasrkin vs Genestealers for the Colonial Marines vs Xenomorphs vibe. (Gallowfall) Prediction 2: New (Old) Terminators vs (New) Heavy Necron Infantry for the Robots vs Robots vibe (Shadow Vaults) Prediction 3: Dark Reapers (with extra sprue) vs (New) Space Marine Acolytes or Scouts. So they refresh the Scouts and don't overlook Marines (Soulshackle)

[@B__C__]

League Squats seems a good bet for the reasons you listed and because one of their earliest spoilers basically had them walking aboard a space hulk.

[@Writh811]

I feel like Shadow Vault would be Custodes and Genestealers box. If I recall right, around the time that Codex Custodes came out they were pointing out how the Custodes are fighting a Genestealer cult on Terra. I think it was called Shadow Throne I can't look it up right now, but Shadow Vault could be a follow up to that conflict.

[@_FoxHoleCharlie_]

From day 1 I have been saying an Inquisition kill team would be perfect!

[@The.Raxing]

The world eater terminator that's part of warhammer+ also has a similar base, MAYBE to tie into a WE terminator squad that's comming to killteam?

[@solomonwalker4132]

I think it's gonna be imperial vs something in every box with escalating levels of response. Box one breachers, an attached boarding unit already on the ship. Box two kasrkin, a higher quality unit called into the gallowdark Box three Marines, some kind of non terminator marines maybe heavy intercessors, called in when the guard can't deal with the threat Box four terminator's or maybe even custodes ( finger's crossed) deployed when even the marines can't contain the situation.

[@leeperry7068]

Seems like the Solar guys and Kroot is still one new thing and one reimagined Compendium team of the Kroot. I agree and also think they will do an Inquisitor team, it's such a slam dunk. I'd love to see a hyper elite Guard Bull Ogryn group like the Custodes of just 4 super studs. I think that could be a blast.

[@tylerpeck9754]

Yoooo Jay!! It was so cool you popped into my buddy’s twitch (Vericur) the other night!!

[@blaholtzen]

another thing with potential could be teams similar to the gellerpox but of other chaos gods, rag tag team of unique tzeench or khorne followers, maybe even slaanesh

[@eneaceribelli8023]

Here's what I think the next killteams contained in the future boxes. ShadowVaults: Custodes against Tyranids; the custodes defend the vaults on terra where whatever is stored there, and tyranids because albeit Shadowtrhone had Custodes against Genestealer Cults it is part of tyranids. SoulShackle: Necrons against Druhkari; literally the rematch between the traditionalist Aeldari against the thing that they needed to destroy, the Necrons (recall to the War in Heaven iirc) GallowFall: Grey knights against Daemons. It's falling, probably drifting back into the Warp, and so it would be fitting to get THE Chaos faction against THE Anti-Chaos faction (also in line with the inquisitorial killteam everybody keeps talking about). I would also remind that both the new Karskin model and the Khorne Terminator for WH+ have the same bases as the one of the miniatures inside "Into the Dark". Make of that what you will, so while the karskin could be based for killteam the terminator puts many doubts on the presence of karskin into one of the boxes Always open for debate

[@blkjet117]

I'd like to see the Eldar get some Kill Team love, with more aspect warriors joining the fray.

[@egnaroelprup]

More aspect warriors? They need to rescue the old ones first from the depths of 2nd edition

[@TheHollerofBluthulu]

Oh man I hope you are right about this, but I'm also hoping they bring out more individual teams like the rogue trader stuff coming out would be great for some of the daemon teams

[@Mrpetered33]

I might be out on a limb here but I think it would be really unique for the Shadowvaults expansion to have an upgrade sprue for custodian wardens so you can run a Shadowkeepers Kill Team, fitting with the theme of the name. Perhaps ancient xenos tech on the space hulk that is too much to bear for your average Imperial force...

[@nickzilla656]

I feel like you're half right with these ones. Shadowvaults - it'd be a shame to have that name and not have space dwarfs in it, but I don't think GW would put kasrkin up against the squats. Both are too human (I know, I know, Moroch was double humans, but I think chaos nullifies the human factor). Just going off of the name, DEldar have some shadowy vaults. GW making a Mandrake kill team would be the least likely thing ever, but the name fits and the rules would be insane. Squats vs. something evil has to be pretty close to a sure thing for this one. The only other option is Admech vs. something evil(er) Soulshackle - Pariahs make tons of sense with the name and would be so cool (and only slightly more likely than Mandrakes), but for the opponent I'd say you're more likely to see kasrkin here. If it isn't them then I'd imagine some other soul/magic oriented group, like daemons, Grey Knights, or Eldar. When I saw the name I thought it'd be Eldar vs. Daemons or maybe Eldar vs. Nids a la the Doom of Malantai, but Necrons in general and Pariahs specifically seem too perfect. Gallowfall - I can't disagree with anything you said here, unless they save the kasrkin to fight the genestealers in this box. But I hope not, because your idea is so much cooler than that.

[@danielairola3236]

Shadowvaults has got to be a custodian killteam because the shadowkeepers shield host guard the “dark cells” below terra which are a bunch of vaults.

[@sellis5716]

I agree with your suggestions! Love to see all of them, potentially something chaosy in soulshackle, maybe daemons and grey knights? They have got to do genestealers and terminators!

[@drewparks4363]

This video has aged spectacularly! Way to go EOB.

[@Sitiya]

I'm going with the slight change of: Shadowvaults= Inquisition vs Squats - Both hunting that forbidden tech Soulshackle = Necrons vs Demons - All having your soul trapped themed GallowFall= Primaris Terminators vs Genestealers - Take our money

[@michaelcasteel9307]

I bet you get some right. The Terminators, Genestealers, and Pariah are my favorite suggestions.

[@Edithae]

I want more Death Korps! Grenadiers and Engineers would be perfect for this kind of Zone Mortalis themed Kill Team season. You could do a hybrid dual use kit for Grenadiers and Engineers, they use similar armour so they could share a torso, just need head and weapon swaps.

[@ArynCrinn]

When they only have 8 teams per a season... they're not going to do multiples of a single Guard regiment.

[@GirlPainting]

didn´t the necrons get a box called paria nexus already with the flaid ones? i doubt they get anything killteam related anytime soon.

[@Sigmaprime369]

I have a feeling you're right on the money with these. Especially gallowfall. Rumor has it that there's gonna be a huge indomitus style box for the 10th launch. The rumors go on to say that it'll be devastation of baal themed. That means tyranids v blood angels. There's no way they don't pair the finale of this kill team season and the start of 10th this summer with a classic space hulk style genestealers v red terminators release. Octarius got paired with the orks release for 9th. It all adds up I swear!

[@makeitrain280]

I love the idea of a space hulk kill team either bring blood angels or dark angels. I also would like to have a kill team where it’s genestealers vs ad mech, maybe iron hands immortals vs emperors children and grey knights vs maybe a mix unit of daemons and chaos space marines.

[@king-kazma888]

Shadowvaults= GSC vs Necrons Soulshackle = Grey Knights and Demons GallowFall= probably space marines vs something That's my idea at least

[@arkslippyjunior7773]

I think that we will get world eaters in a new box in someway. I could see it being World Eaters versus Kasrkin during gallowfall since its kind of established that if the world eaters get their hands on something it's basically gone and not worth saving so gallowfall could be the kasrkin versus world eaters in a last ditch effort to save the space hulk

[@Tutorp]

I don't know about Squats and Kasarkin in a Kill Team box. I think it's 50/50 that or they'll get a White Dwarf release. That said, Necrons Vs Ordo Xenos is a cool idea, and I hope you're right about that. And Gallowfall being basically Kill Team: Space Hulk would be pretty awesome! However, your predictions are all "Imperium Vs Xenox", and I kind of suspect that GW won't go quite so far. My predictions: Shadowvaults: Squats Vs Necrons (story: Squats mine too deep into the Gallowdark, comes across ancient Necrons ship and awakens the slumbering Necrons inside) Soulshackle: either Eldar Vs Slaanesh-themed Chaos team, or Dark Eldar Vs... Someone. Gallowfall: It's gonna be Genestealers, isn't it? Genestealers Vs Terminators :-D

[@merengueatang4]

I don't think it will be the generic hearthkin squats because of the bases. It's the normal gw bases for them. Also, the plague marine kit has a bunch of options as well, so more special things is no guarantee.

[@77loka]

You know what else is really cool? Getting home after welding pipes at work on the hardest day of the week, Monday, eating a hot cheesy Lasagna and watching a EOB video about basically nothing and just chilaxing.

[@commanderguardian7292]

My personal hope is that - Shadowvaults is Custodes vs either Alpha legion or Death guard -Soulshackle is eldar vs necrons -Gallowfall is primaris terminators vs Gene-stealers Shadowvaults makes sense for custodies after the dark cells breaches. Soulshackle is perfect for the two species that are losing their souls. And I agree that Gallowfall is best terminators and gene-stealers.

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

I do agree that Kill Team is a good opportunity to field more novelty lore focused teams instead of just Codex rulebook loadouts. I would actually want Genestealers vs Squats for Shadowvault, Nids vs Daemons for Soul Shackle, and Gallowfall to be Inquisition vs Dark Mechanicum. Although if they threw something out far left field like maybe even Rak-Gol killteam vs a Rogue Trader Killteam I would buy it in a heartbeat.

[@WordTweak]

A Space Hulk reimagining would be sweet. While I wait for a Space Crusade reboot I'm down for a genestealer/soulsucker kill team.

[@ArynCrinn]

Definitely a few things I'd change. Firstly, in light of the recent 40k Codex Roadmap and Leagues of Votann Codex leaks, Kasrkin vs Hearthkyn seems pretty unlikely for Shadowvaults. The Kasrkin themselves are probably still a safe bet, since the box should be releasing around the same time, but the Hearthkyn will have already been released. It would kind of lessen the value of the box to just include a kit that's already available. I don't see them releasing another unit within a few months of the Codex either. Second, the predictions here have a notable lack of Chaos teams. The previous season had 3 Imperial, 3 Xenos, and 2 Chaos... I'd be very shocked if this season had none, with 4 Imperial and 4 Xenos. I agree that Death Guard (and Daemons) are probably more likely to be a WD team release (and a future Kill Team Annual), and I don't know if they'd have World Eaters in Soulshackle (which should release a little after World Eaters) either... maybe they could bring something a little more out of left field with Beastmen or Dark Mechanicum? Afterall, the Gallowdark is supposed to be ancient, existing before humanity discovered it; It would be kind of tame if they only had existing units and stuff. Necrons aren't a bad guess for Soulshackle, and they even fit the ancient nature of the place. If it weren't for the fact that they seem to be using the Cosair Voidscarred in place of both Craftworld and Commorites (who have had fewer additions to their Codex over the past 10 years than Grey Knights by the way) teams, I'd have suggested something for the latter. Tyranids could be either Gallowfall, or the start of the next season... It would fit with the rumoured Tyranid update in 10th edition next year. The problem with both Necrons and Tyranids, is that neither really have a single unit that with "specialists." Genestealers don't even have ranged weapons. They might be able to make up for this with something like a new take on Pariahs for the Necrons... but what do they do for the Tyranids? A new type of 'gaunt that has both guns and claws or something? Oddly enough, the Inquisition have the opposite problem. Short of something really specific like Inquisitorial stormtroopers/scions, a Deathwatch Kill Team, or even Grey Knights, an Inquisitorial henchman team would kind of be too specialised. It's one thing to give the monobuild Starstriders and Gellerpox Infected rules for the game... but to make a whole new Kill Team like that is kind of weird. How much customisation could the really give an Inquisitorial henchman team?

[@davidloganpatton]

I know its a sore spot, but Custodes don't have a bespoke Kill team (which I know they are already good and got nerf) but I think a bespoke team that embodies the Eyes of the emperor, the retired adeptus custodes that no longer adorn their golden armor but continue to surveil and hunt down threats to the emperor and imperium of man.

[@TheLordofMetroids]

As a Death Guard fan, I want us to get a white Dwarf list, but not a bespoke Kill Team box, like you said for the squats, Death Guard already feel like a kill team, they just need some abilities, and better rules for plague weapons. Now one faction I really want to see get a Kill Team, Dark Admech/True Mechanicum. I want to see what a team of wacky body horror tech priests can look like.

[@creon3866]

Your reasoning correctly terminators not being in KT is nonsense. A small team of terminators makes thematic sense. Sending "elites" to carry out a small tactical mission of strategic importance fits with the rest of it. The Blooded got an ogryn so there could be something like kill team cassius where there is one terminator with a squad of veteran space marines.

[@ianbabcock6802]

I don’t think the Squats will be in a box , but if they were I’d want them to be paired with Gretchin. I love the idea of Necron Pariahs as a Killteam, and I think the Necrons are coming sooner than later. The faction I want to see more than anything is the Rak’Gol. The setting is just asking for a Rak’Gol Killteam.

[@joshuaromeo9187]

I'm hoping that one of those boxes contains new genestealers. Space Hulks are perfect for creepy crawlies

[@jarenalfred66]

I just want a killteam box that has one team that is just 10 different Trazyn models, and then the other team is like 1 unique model of every different race, 1 Marine, 1 ork, 1 nid, 1 chaos, 1 custodes, 1 tau, 1 kroot, 1 thunder warrior, etc. That would be amazing, kind of hilarious as well, but super cool because having some lore where Trazyn's world glitches and teleports 10 random units that he has to recapture into this spacehulk. It would be incredible, especially 10 unique Trazyn units specifically because i'd love to make a trazyn army without every unit being the exact same

[@Teddyd583]

Shadow vaults is most likely gonna be an adeptus custodes force. Its literally the name of an area they are sworn to protect

[@Tharivol69]

Necron Pariahs and the last box being Termis vs Genestealers are cool, but I doubt we'll get so many imperial teams. One could argue that Kin are still very imperial'esque, which would mean 4,5 human dudes teams, thats over a half of all of the season's teams. With the Warhammer+ terminator model being based in the same way as those Karskins, it may just be just a new basing scheme GW is trying out, not KillTeam specific.

[@paulkasasian7990]

I think better than terminators, do heavy intercessors... but then give them a sprue with a bunch of parts that allude to the classic terminators (heavy flamers and chain fists etc.)

[@anthonywaggett9317]

I would imagine we will get new all new terrain and all new minis. Season 1 was coming off the back of the Pandemic and all the logistics problems associated with this so repurposing minis and terrain was a logical move to keep the launch on track but was really just a placeholder. They have now had a year or so of 'back to normal' working and production so I think we will see all original and revived minis. It's a good way to test out the demand for the factions for 10th edition 40K - I bet we see a big box of Imperials in 10th ed. as we have seen Krieg/Navy and the Rogue Trader team.

[@MayhemMiller95]

Id love if they like a "kill team legends" run just to give us First Claw from the night lord books

[@anotherzingbo]

When GW puts two factions in a box they like them to contrast each other quite well. Kasrkin vs Leagues of Votann would match some heavily armoured humans with a hi tech look and fancy weapons against some heavily armoured abhumans with a hi tech look and fancy weapons. They seem too similar to me.

[@andrewdelaittre1132]

Official Savlar Chem Dogs models would be brilliant.

[@cleeiii357]

It would be neat if they release models based on lesser known Xenos races like the Rak'Gol, Yu'Vath, Hrud, Tarellians, Fra'al, etc.. Or even Demiurg which would be neat going against a Squat/Votann kill team for some Space Dwarf vs Space Dwarf action.

[@cleeiii357]

I take back the latter part of what I said. Apparently, according to the Votann Codex. The Demiurg are Votann. They just got misidentified as Xenos by the Imperium.

[@joyahorrorshow]

i want a squats box against either the mechenicus or the necrons. maybe the mechanicus figured out that they're using ai or maybe trazyn decided he wants some deeply guarded votann ai core or something. alternatively homaging Mechanicus the videogame and giving us some tomb world terrain and maybe unique new models.

[@BigFrenchNose]

I honestly think that for this season of Kill team they're going to give us boxes with 2 completely new teams (sprue-wise). One of them a revamp of an old kit (like the kroot) while the other one is a brand new faction with no specific ties to 40k (like the breachers).

[@Lord_Vesh]

‘Soul Shackle’ sounds aeldari related but it could also be sisters of silence given they like to “shackle” psykers with there null souls

[@gavinjames1145]

I really like the space hulk terrain, but I agree 100%. Give me terminators and gene stealers to go with it!

[@davidmckay335]

The Warhammer+ Chaos Terminator appears to have a Kill Team base, so maybe there will be a World Eater Kill Team perhaps for Soul Shackle

[@runningcommentary2125]

I feel like revamped Furies could fit quite well into Kill Team. Don’t know how likely it is, though.

[@deepone_toe]

Interesting prediction. I see the Deathwatch. Maybe combined with the Inquisition or against Tyranids?!

[@Mrhonder2010]

I hope they bring out a Tyranid lictor killteam. New plastic kit that also builds deathleaper, it's still in the codex but they don't make the model anymore

[@aerouge4492]

I really dislike the lack of vantagepoints in the new terrain. But on the other hand I play Eldar with a Ranger group ... and boy is sniping fun ;-)

[@NeoNaiche]

Either Gravis Armor, or "Primaris Terminators," at the end of Gallowfall with 10th Edition

[@DFloyd84]

Glad to see new Kroot, but does GW really have to give us more space marines to fight them? (It's a joke: Navy troops are called marines, and the Imperial Navy fights in space)

[@derykfordham]

I think by unique terrain they mean you have to by the box set if you want it.

[@CMTechnica]

I will total buy a box of kasrkin if that’s the case. My custom regiment needs some heavy support

[@zacadam4129]

I might be misunderstanding this video, but I believe there is already necrons in a killteam box? Killteam pariah nexus has a chronomancer and 5 flayed ones?

[@robertmendoza3025]

If you (GW) have a box called Shadowvaults and don't include Shadowkeeper Custodians, Imma gonna be a little angery (intentional "e"). I think the Pyrrhian Eternals/ Legions replaced Pariahs, at least in name, sorta/kinda. Could tie in with the Pariah Nexus stuff, maybe. Vs Inquisitor (w/xenos, hereticus, malleus options?) w/ Acolyte Retinue? ... ...I still think Kill Team 1 came out in 6th-ish ed w/ Ravin' Guard vs (at the time) Tau (not T'au). 7th ed had Shadow War Armageddon (not a Kill Team), 8th had Kill Team 2: Electric Boogaloo, and now we have Kill Team 3: Space Hulk Drift. 11th ed we'll have Kill Team 4: The Quest For Peace.

[@durelljfg5217]

12:20 "KT is about troops vs troops.." Cough... custodes... cough XDDD. Funny bet video, keep up the good work!

[@Whitewing89]

It would be nice to have a ton of options for how to make your Inquisitor, but knowing gw i bet we get at most two options.

[@odharrison23]

I bet you’re right about the grey knights. I sooo soooo hope you are right about the last box I want primaris terminator!!!

[@rorycanning2087]

I see the kaserkans coming out as reimagined when I.G. is released. I also see the berserkers coming as a reimagined when they are released with the 40k release.

[@bauguilhugo9037]

Tabletop Impulse also did a prediction video, i would better follow his guesses

[@joshturnbull8330]

Think ill get a couple of boxes of kroot when they are out seperately, and hold out for the inevitable genestestealer v termies box

[@intobatts]

Very hyped for the next lot of kill team releases and glad to see it keep getting coverage on EOB!