I'm Done Teaching The CAGED System... Here's Why

[@NicoViergever]

Always enjoy John's approach to theory. There many many channels out there on the same topic. What makes John different is his simple, common sense, down to earth approach while some others make things unnecessarily difficult while often being pretentious. Well done again John.

[@goosegander1647]

Thanks for the explanation and the practical application example.

[@davidrjbrown8808]

Nice clear thinking. This rings bells for me. I think that I've been edging this way but hadn't formalised it.

[@SeaDrive300]

For those of you who don't reside in the U.K., "tuition" means "instruction", as opposed to the amount of money that you pay for instruction. You're welcome! :-)

[@trackerbuckmann1627]

Appreciated.

[@benjuneau189]

Brilliant John - you're a star - thanks very much and I will definitely be subscribing (when I've caught up with my backlog of study material) - Ben (Reading)

[@stevemusky5438]

A lightbulb moment! Thanks John. See you Friday.......

[@wesmatron]

That was so damn useful. Thankyou.

[@SidBonkers51]

I think youve just given me a new practice regime, many thanks for this one John.

[@OzzyMandias]

When you had your moment of clarity, how many cans had you had?

[@JRobsonGuitar]

More than one 🍺😀👍

[@TheFunktipus1]

Clarity cans 😄

[@TomClarkSouthLondon]

Awesome!👍

[@throughthefog-go]

Thanks John 👍👌 always a pleasure

[@no.7593]

Very good - always easy if it's a key at the bottom end of the fretboard and you can play the scale up the neck but if the key is C or D you are restricted at the top end unless you know the pattern going back down the frets - which I didn't. Thank you.

[@johghurt9863]

Thank you for making this video. As a beginner it filled for me the gap to move easily close by from one chord to the other. I don’t understand why I haven’t found any reference to this elsewhere.

[@DirkGentley42]

Hi John. Are the guides that you showed on the screen (the penetrating shapes next to the chord looked useful) available to print out anywhere?

[@DirkGentley42]

That was meant to read pentatonic! Not pentrating! Damn spell check!

[@JRobsonGuitar]

I think the CAGED patterns are up on one of my Patreon posts from a couple of years ago, mate 👍

[@calbrockocat8728]

Another great lesson on how all these apparently contradictory notes fit together as the "mirage" of chords link together. Now, that was a mouthful.

[@Chip_57]

John. Ding! A brilliant lesson.

[@andygring3601]

The great thing is, that this not only appies for the pentatonic scales but also for the chords. And to be aware of the existence of 5 different shapes, I still like to know CAGED. I find it a little bit unusual that you mirror the circle of fifth, as I was told to it.

[@jetset9561]

Really good explanation John - but don't throw those CAGED shapes away just yet. If you do a whole 12/24 bar solo just covering the notes from fret 5 to 8 then it's going to sound very samey with all the notes in the same register very soon. Using your CAGED shapes to jump from fret 5 Am to fret 12 Am and then back into your pentanoic wheel for a bit will open up the neck even more for your students.

[@DJMerck]

God i wish i understood what your talking about...

[@jetset9561]

@@DJMerck If you watch John's video from Sunday where he plays through a solo using this technique - he doesn't just play using the Pentatonic Wheel positions he showed in this video - he moved further up the neck to make the solo more interesting by playing in a higher register. That's what I was talking about above.

[@DJMerck]

@@jetset9561 I can already play up and down the neck I have problems with chords because no one will tell you where to put your fingers they want to go over Theory another bulshit thats not needed

[@butchsguitarsgear520]

Hey John how much do you charge for one-on-one lessons like from Skype or whatever platform you would use

[@JRobsonGuitar]

1st lesson is free, then £90/6 lessons; £160/12 lessons or £19/single lesson. You can contact me via the contact form on my website (link in the video description). Cheers mate 👍

[@butchsguitarsgear520]

@@JRobsonGuitar thanks John we'll be getting together soon

[@dallastoto3189]

Very interesting Mate! That’s something we can get into at my next private lesson. Looking forward to seeing you. B safe Dallas 🥃🍻😂

[@jacquelinemcneil2620]

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[@marylaf]

How is this not CAGED? I have been taught by my instructor to do exactly this using the CAGED system. I am in one position on guitar, playing the 5 positions, justed naming them with letters (c a g e d) instead of 1 2 3 4 5.

[@JRobsonGuitar]

It's a different way of thinking about the same thing. More direct by virtue of the fact that you don't have to relate the patterns to chord shapes, then move that chord shape up the neck as a way of identifying which pattern to use.

[@alexhamilton4084]

You just gave me a light bulb moment. 👍

[@famtoonen18]

Again a very valuable lesson mate. I never saw any use in the CAGED system but 'invented' something similar to what you have done. I advice everybody to subscribe to your patreon, for mainland Europeans, it is just €3/month.

[@gearViewmirror]

Hello John🎸👋🏼

[@TheTimeProphet]

Good tutorial, but surely you are still using the CAGED system, just in one place

[@marylaf]

Exactly my point. I want to know what is different.

[@johnmilligan6605]

Love the t shirt I am an Irish republican but every Englishman has a right and a responsibility to remember with pride the sacrifice of those brave selfless young men of the RAF WW2

[@dankmazzi2376]

British players are great 👍

[@carlosclaptrix]

All of them? Because John is great?

[@BellsCuriosityShop]

I learned the fingerboard using mode shapes. I always thought it was liked CAGED before CAGED.

[@peterkelly8357]

This will probably be an unpopular comment because guitar players like to reference everything to patterns and shapes - learn music theory, how to construct scales, learn the note names contained in arpeggios and pentatonic scales… learn to see all the notes on the neck. It isn’t much more difficult than trying to memorise loads of shapes. Keyboard players and wind players have to do this.

[@jasonwhitaker2430]

yep just learn your notes on the fretboard..the rest is easy....well easy ish lol

[@jetset9561]

It is something every guitar player should aspire to - but comparing the guitar with a keyboard and wind instrument is naive, to say the least. For example, how many places on the piano can you play the note G you fret on the high E string 3rd fret on the guitar? One. On the guitar - five different places on the fretboard on five different strings. If it was as easy to memorise a guitar fretboard like a keyboard or a clarinet neck then we would all know it and it would be a lot less fun to play.

[@peterkelly8357]

@@jetset9561 I wasn’t comparing the instruments, just pointing out that certain musicians have to learn differently than using shapes. Do whatever comes easiest, I do not care what you do

[@jasonwhitaker2430]

@@jetset9561 Well the G note on the guitar like the piano isnt the same they are different octaves. Also a piano has 88 keys so thats 8 or nine octaves and a guitar has 4 1/2 so a piano player has access to twice the amount of triads in all positions to learn with different voicings ..so quite a challenge im sure you agree. No one is saying learning the fret board is easy . First you learn the notes then triads/chord constructions 7th minors, nines just like any other instrument. Then you do truly understand how the fretboard is constructed. Same as any other instrument... In my opinion its easy to learn shapes on the fret board so thats what people do but it doesnt show you how the fret board works. This is just my opinion though and i am not looking for an argument .

[@jetset9561]

@@jasonwhitaker2430 the G note on the high E 3rd fret, B 8th fret, G 12th fret, D 17th fret and A string 22nd fret are all the same note - sorry I'm not sure what you are looking at. The fact that a piano has more octaves but they are all laid out in exactly the same position makes it much easier to learn than on the guitar where depending on which string you start from your octave shapes may look completely different thanks to the B string tuning.