"I love you, beyond measure." and "Hawk, I can't bear being this happy." are my most favorite lines of this series and makes me sob so hard. Also JBae is just so so good in this. He's like baring his soul.
@bluefriend6210 ай бұрын
Frankie and Lucy are my two favorite characters in this show. Frankie doesn't hide who he is because he can't really, and rather than hanging around waiting for a few scraps of attention from Marcus, he decides to get on with his life, move to San Francisco, and go to University to become a social worker. When Marcus comes to his door just before he leaves and asks for a kiss, (kind of a Hawk move, really) Frankie stays strong and just gives him a hug and a goodbye. The people like Frankie--the ones who were out when it was almost impossible, and very dangerous, to be out--they were the heroes. And as we know, from the earlier scenes of the '80s in previous episodes, Marcus eventually follows him to S.F. and they end up together, so good on Frankie for living his life the way he wanted to live it and still ending up with the man he loved.
@zoetrope198710 ай бұрын
"Oh my god, we can get a job in a cafe!" LOL
@adrianneceleste599510 ай бұрын
The way i aint ready for the day episode 7+8 reaction video gonna drop🥺😭
@toms599610 ай бұрын
To be honest I'm not sure I can watch that again...
@patiencekillz10 ай бұрын
for some reason the scene of jackson announcing he’s on an acid trip is so funny to me
@torijeri10 ай бұрын
it makes me cackle every time i can’t help it
@AliSparks210 ай бұрын
I so respect that you let yourself really feel these stories and let the tears come. Thank you for being a good example. Xx
@kikisav722410 ай бұрын
I'm going to be honest, I really hate when people say things like "who would choose to be gay?" or "who would choose to live like that?" I understand for that time, Lucy saying something like that would've been considered quite progressive and empathetic. But I think it implies that queer people should be pitied because we "just can't help ourselves" or that shame/self-hatred is inherent to queerness when it's not. It's a symptom of living in societies filled with bigotry and a result of being around people who refuse to see your humanity. And because of that a lot of queer people, unfortunately, feel like the best option would be for them to change who they are if they could. Personally, I love being queer and I WOULD choose it if possible. The same way I would still choose to be black. Being marginalized by society is awful, but at the end of the day it's not my sexuality or race or gender that's the problem so why should I have to change to be respected as a human being?
@powder-blue10 ай бұрын
Lucy KNEW what she was getting into when she married Hawk, and she still DEMANDED children and then got mad when Hawk didn’t change.
10 ай бұрын
The next two episodes will break you. I was a total mess.
@the_nikster110 ай бұрын
Hawk is living a lie because the society in which he lives doesn't allow him to live his life truthfully. I am loving your reactions to this series SO MUCH! 🥰
@DoubleBlack2.09 ай бұрын
Frankie does…
@the_nikster19 ай бұрын
@@DoubleBlack2.0 only because the life he wants to live isn’t being as heavily scrutinized as Hawk’s. he can live authentically because his livelihood doesn’t literally depend on whether or not people know he’s queer. Hawk’s does. The same with Marcus. In a just world, Marcus, Frankie, and Hawk would all be able to live and make a living the way they wanted to without fear of being ostracized, beaten, and/or killed for it.
@sonicsean3410 ай бұрын
I personally defend Hawk as an overall character only cos so many try to draw cartoonish hero/villain lines in the show. Hawk is a complicated guy who does both good and messed up things. I think ppl forget Hawks backstory is the first guy he loved got killed cos he followed hawk into the army to try to be together and got killed in WW2, so Hawk has survivors guilt over that and Tim is the only one who breaks thru it. I love Tim as a well but the dude was a McCarthy enabler and also often forgets what decade he lives in. He frequently endangers himself and others with his choices despite how lovely he is. Both of them having Layers make them great.
@stephaniel285010 ай бұрын
Exactly, agreed! It's honestly kind of shocking to me how many people seem to be SO hard on Hawk and read absolutely everything he does as just "to get ahead" or whatever. Granted I'm still working my way through the show so can't speak to the last couple episodes yet, but so far, I very much see him as coming from a place of self *preservation* , yes, but that certainly doesn't mean he enjoys hurting other people or would do so if there weren't very real reasons for him to believe doing so is necessary to protect himself or the people he cares about. It's just weird because, as I'm watching the episodes, I was seeing comments on various reactions about how Hawk destroyed Tim's life and such, and so I was expecting him to have done something really seriously messed up to him, and I'm like... did I miss something? Yeah, it completely sucks that he, like so many gay people during that time, was so pressured into a heterosexual life despite his being very much in love with Tim, and of course I felt terrible for Tim, but I blame the society they lived in for that far more than I blame Hawk. Sure, Hawk did choose the path of least resistance to being able to maintain a safe and comfortable life, but from his perspective he couldn't see another choice, and in doing so he was denying himself genuine happiness just as much as it hurt Tim. And yes, as much as I love Tim, it's true, politically he spent so long enabling McCarthy and his crew! I've seen people say they think Hawk is just as bad a Cohn, and I'm like... HOW!? At the end of the day, even if he wasn't above playing dirty, Hawk was making moves behind the scenes in an effort to stop McCarthy and allow people to live their lives in peace. Cohn and McCarthy were the ones deliberately enacting measures to destroy peoples' lives. That's not even remotely the same thing.
@mandipandi30310 ай бұрын
Hawk and Tim being together in the cabin is so depressing. Hawk wants to experience sexual intimacy for the first time in over a decade with Tim. He spends almost the entire time looking at Tim's face. He admits that it would be cheating to be with Tim, because, in Hawk's mind at least, he's not unfaithful to Lucy if he's only having one-offs with strangers (and Tim is the opposite of that criteria). As opposed to Hawk, Tim won't let Hawk touch him. Tim also avoids looking at Hawk because he's desperate to keep them having sex impersonal. Hawk let's ambition and selfishness override a lot of his morals. He's cruel when he doesn't need to be. Tim is far from an angel too. Lucy's actions, while wrong, were understandable. Especially for a woman in that era. Grey characters all around.
@treesny10 ай бұрын
Tim won't let Hawk touch him because he's in seminary, deliberately choosing to move towards celibacy. This collides painfully with the love and sexual attraction he still feels for Hawk. One of the terrific things about the way creator/showrunner Ron Nyswaner expanded upon Thomas Mallon's 2007 novel is that by having Tim and Hawk meet again in the 60s, 70s and 80s -- in the book they never do after the 1950s -- we get to see how many shifts and changes their relationship goes through. Also, I love the addition of Jackson to the story -- he's not in the novel at all -- not only for the way it deepens the story of Hawk and Lucy's marriage but for the chance to see Tim in a pastoral role, rather than just in relation to Hawk and the Washington political world. The next episode (1970s - Fire Island) is one of the most painful yet also one of the most genuinely human, especially where it finds Hawk emotionally.
@mandipandi30310 ай бұрын
@treesny Yes, I read the book before the series was released, and I'm aware of the many differences between the two. I believe the series actually succeeds in ways the novel does not and that it's braver in many respects. I know Tim was practicing celibacy, but a motivator behind him practicing it prior to him taking any vows in the church that would require it (as well as him keeping Hawk at a distance) was his shame over being gay that the church reinforced in him. Tim already felt guilty for questioning if he had the willpower to do what he saw as the right thing in his legal troubles, but also in having taken aid from Hawk, and still having feelings for him in the first place. He also knows that doing this is yet another case of Hawk cheating on Lucy and that he's willingly contributing to Hawk being unfaithful. I think on top of the celibacy, Tim's trying to block out all those things that make him know what he's doing isn't healthy for him
@sherrimast85257 ай бұрын
Episode 6 was frustrating as there was so much between Hawk and Tim that was left unresolved. You could feel the yearning they both felt to be together to have that intimacy, it was so palpable. I did like the scene with all three boys in the cabin; kind of gave me could-have-been vibes with Hawk and Tim being dads with a family of their own! :) I also felt that Hawk was starting to get tired of the life he was living; and having Tim back in his life, albeit briefly, added to those feelings, knowing what he was missing out on. He really wanted Tim to stay. Even after the confrontation with Lucy about Tim, Hawk went out looking for Tim. On another side of the coin, we know that Hawk's marriage was his closet and that it was killing him. Not to mention, the others involved but Tim kept sending Hawk back to the closet. I was disappointed in Tim for that. It felt like pushing to "keep his vows" was more of a religious agenda for Tim but was it necessarily the right thing for Hawk, Lucy and the kids? Jackson at 11 was already having major resentment/distrust issues with his dad.
@wrotkastukotka387510 ай бұрын
the thing with Hawk is that i do understand why he do the things he do, but i do not respect them and i dont respect him bc of it. It is all just sad and depressing. He is very tragic charakter
@CallindorCray-dp7no10 ай бұрын
I really hope at some point, that the "Interview with a vampire" - series finds its way onto your channel.
@joaquimafonso10810 ай бұрын
Lestat is the gayer, more evil Hawk variant
@AnxietyRat9 ай бұрын
I second this. I really hope he does eventually watch it and put it up on KZbin. I think he'd love it!
@nouspartimes9 ай бұрын
@@joaquimafonso108 if we are doing some comparison, I'd say Louis is a nicer Hawk, and Lestat is a meaner Tim, as far as I see them now the way Hawk refuses to let himself fall for Tim and to live as he really is, is very Louis-esque to me edit: of course Tim's religious faith is very reminiscent of Louis'.......
@murfeel11738 ай бұрын
omg i hope he does! season 2's coming in like 2 weeks
@murfeel11738 ай бұрын
@@nouspartimes I really like this comparison! (IMO Loustat's closer to Frankie & Marcus--Lestat is 100% Frankie, LOL! XD) Louis being closeted was ofc even more challenging & understandable, living during Jim Crow in the 1910s-1940s as a Catholic gay Black man. He's way nicer & more honest than Hawk, yes, since he'd probably never go as far as marrying a woman, and he's a hopeless romantic like Tim who just wants to be cozied up at home with his man, but isn't above throwing people under the bus to get his way--so I see him like a fail!Marcus, struggling to make the right decisions or do right by those closest to him.
@kelliems7510 ай бұрын
I am loving rewatching this with you!! Such great reactions!
@DoubleBlack2.09 ай бұрын
12:24 1000% agree with you here. While I really enjoy Hawk and appreciate the complexities of his character, there are several things he does that I absolutely hate and cannot support. And this is definitely a big one of them. 💔
@dfa336610 ай бұрын
The senator in this series is based on a real senator who indeed shot himself and his son was arrested for indecency.
@vanjiera10 ай бұрын
hawk riders are strange because its clear that he is selfish, toxic and only looks out for himself most of the time. those are not the traits of a good person, no matter the circumstances. you can still love the character, as everyone has their flaws, without claiming that he is a good person just because he loves tim.
@Owain212910 ай бұрын
Seeing Leonard at Senator Smith's funeral makes me hope that after his suicide, Hawk at least had the conscience to get Leonard out of conversion therapy. There's no real point to keeping him in it if there's no objective to protect Smith. I don't know how documented it was back in the 50s, but if Hawk had the knowledge of how cruel these "treatments" can be, the character would honestly be pretty ruined for me. I can understand his motives and the ability to step on others to get where you want, but Hawk willingly throwing someone into torture would be too much imo. He's a very flawed character, but he often is an understandable one.
@PSPguy210 ай бұрын
👍I'm loving rewatching this with you! Not sure if you got one or not but the production company sent me an email with a questionnaire about what I'd like to see in a Fellow Travelers sequel. Although I think Hawk & Tim's story is over with there might be a sequel with a different storyline and characters.
@miahmassaro10 ай бұрын
no we’re not gonna be fine!!
@DoubleBlack2.09 ай бұрын
35:27 This particular moment is actually so hard for me to watch. Because there absolutely *was* something “wrong” with Jackson. This was his way of crying out for help, but instead of getting him that help, Hawk tries to handle this the same way he handles his own life: *denial*. Shove it all down, pretend everything is fine, keep up the charade.. And it eventually cost him his son. It’s SO tragic, I want to sob just thinking about it. 💔
@stephaniel28508 ай бұрын
You know, that moment makes me so torn, because on the one hand I can see if there was a fair bit of denial in there, but also... I think about the fact that a wholehearted, unquestioning affirmation of "there's nothing wrong with you" is so deeply what *Hawk* would have needed to hear growing up - and what he was so completely denied from his own father. And it shatters me to think that it's entirely possible that was him genuinely wanting to give his child the unconditional love that he hadn't gotten, and it was such a tragic disconnect because Jackson's case was just different and he *did* need genuine help on top of love and support 💔 The "we're gonna be fine" part does admittedly feel more in the vein of denial, but I do wonder if it's a mix of the two; if his instinctual response was a very pure one of "there could never be anything wrong with you, I love you unconditionally", and also on some level he knew there were other more complicated issues going on with Jackson that he didn't want to have to think about.
@DoubleBlack2.08 ай бұрын
I can see that too, yeah. It’s just so sad any way you slice it. 💔
@chiefd310 ай бұрын
Hey mate, love watching your reaction/review of Fellow Travelers and just wanted you to keep in mind what Hawk told his son about loving him "beyond measure". That phrase will come into importance in the final episodes when you watch them or instead, when we watch them with you! Thanks, again!
@RichardSteuland10 ай бұрын
I have a terrible relationship with my Mother. She often stated that I was as queer as a three dollar bill. I spent Christmas with her. I was making toast when she appears and reapeat the same phrase. I am 61 and living in assisted living. I miss my Dad. He was fair and accepting of others.
@GoddessOfWhatnot10 ай бұрын
I totally get where you’re coming from with Hawk. I hated him more and more with every single episode (until the VERY end, Tim turned me around)
@zoetrogolo73498 ай бұрын
"America's crazy! Why do have guns!? Eugh. Terrifying." YES. Truer words have never been spoken. I ask myself that question every day.
@paullagansua693810 ай бұрын
When are you dropping your reaction for Ep7&8 ? I can’t wait
@eviegadenne305910 ай бұрын
If you've become obsessed with Jonathan bailey, then if u haven't already u should definitely watch bridgerton 😍👌✨
@RichardSteuland10 ай бұрын
Before Stonewall this stuff was common through America. Troubling thing is that laws restricting mention of Gay history is forbidden.
@elizabethsommerer216410 ай бұрын
Hawk needed a beard, plus Senator Smith expected them to marry. His luck is that he passes as straight. I think his dad was upset when he caught Hawk and Kenny together because Hawk was bottoming.
@sonicsean3410 ай бұрын
Close, Hawk’s dad said he walked in and found Hawk on his knees with Kenny so was likely sucking him off
@marklouis18909 ай бұрын
I love the beard and reaction Niall 😘😘😘
@zblglr10 ай бұрын
IM SO EXCITED TO WATCH🎉🎉❤❤😢THIS SHOW BROKE ME
@g1rld1nner8 ай бұрын
24:37 !!! i wish people didn’t view it as immortal, and view it as love like heterosexual love. being gay is not a sin! God loves you no matter what your sexuality is.
@kev12110 ай бұрын
Hawk and Lucy are both raggedy. She’s hosting an anniversary party for friends and hooking up with the husband? She must hate the wife. And Hawk…he’s just all around raggedy. All of Hawk’s situations are of his own making. He could’ve left politics. The position that he was hoping for took 30 years to get. Was it worth everything it cost? Lucy chose to stay married to Hawk, knowing he was hooking up with men…before they had kids. So boo hoo. You made your bed. Fluff the pillows and get comfortable. That said…love this series and your reactions.
@livinginstereo10 ай бұрын
I know this is a weird random comment but your eyes look really beautiful in this video.
@clarasundqvist601310 ай бұрын
Loving your reactions to this series so far! If you want another cry fest you should watch The Impossible, starring Ewan McGregor, Naomi Watts and baby Tom Holland. It’s a film I keep coming back to even though I’m not generally a fan of disaster movies
@justbeeyourself10 ай бұрын
you aren't the only one. hawk is a very good and interesting character, but the amount of times i wanted to give him a smack upside the head is too numerous to count. he did not treat tim well or give time what he deserves. but in that and at the same time he also didn't get what he deserved, which was to be happy with someone he was actually in love with.
@davidcm867010 ай бұрын
Oh boy, prepare yourself for the last 2 episodes 😢
@tyramoore166819 күн бұрын
The end of ep 5 made me ugly sob for so long
@memethingz600410 ай бұрын
30:42 preach 😂
@toms599610 ай бұрын
Your reactions are always on point and hilarious. But why do you get shy with intimate scenes - never mind, it's cute😆🇫🇮 (I try to have some levity even in my comments as the series has crushed me emotionally already...)
@jetnight8810 ай бұрын
Where the last season of derry girls?
@niallnochill10 ай бұрын
On the Patreon lol when I get a chance to edit it I’ll get it to you on here
@eviegadenne305910 ай бұрын
@@niallnochillI think u should watch My Policeman Niall it's very good and sad and impactful :))
@robertshows51008 ай бұрын
Did I see Roy Cohn
@jackquince10 ай бұрын
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH 500 DAYS OF SUMMER ITS SO GOOD ID ACCTUALY SELL MY SOUL FOR UR REACTION OF IT GAL X