I'm ranking ALL WARCRAFT 3 (competitive) MAPS!

[@nireas570]

He's avoiding Orc unit tierlist. GET HIM!

[@HellecticMojo]

How? He's camping in the central healing fountain. You can't contest that

[@Hellwolf36]

I can probably guess at least 2 units that will be S: Peons and Raiders.

[@undead._]

​@@Hellwolf36tauren 100% c tier

[@Thelegoterrapin]

I was about to go check and see how I missed it. Maybe he’s waiting on the PTR to finalize so they don’t immediately outdate it🤔

[@poilboiler]

Mass kodo S tier.

[@xSkyBoxer]

Babe wake up grubby is talking again

[@nabilrahman8243]

He's about to TAAAAAAAAALK 🥵🤯🫨

[@masonrockwood7732]

This 'comment' format really needs to die. It wasn't even funny the first time.

[@Boudeyyt]

I don’t understand why my gf doesn’t want to listen to grubby with me

[@DivineBanana]

Babe wake up, ​@@masonrockwood7732is talking.

[@AlmondChocolate-b1j]

​@@masonrockwood7732 babe wake up someone's getting mad about a meme format again

[@sergritm]

Grubby flying around the screen to point at stuff gives me life

[@ItsMySpaceship]

It was novel for a few minutes but found it a bit disorienting. I still enjoyed the vid overall but would have preferred a regular pointer.

[@toptenanime]

+1 for more flying grubby

[@tabula_rosa]

for mirrored maps grubby should put the map in the center of the screen and then mirror himself, even if it has to be diagonally

[@MintBlancmanche-mk8pi]

@@ItsMySpaceship flying grubby is not real, he can't hurt you. xD

[@kevin-7091]

At this point, we need a tier list of the tier lists

[@stormbravetale1656]

Only after a tier list of tech tiers

[@KeMeEscupaUnPollo]

Tier list of Warcraft competitive players

[@nmmeswey3584]

the orc tier list in the tier list tier list is just gonna be a 404 error code xd

[@mpb-d6n]

How about a list of tiers about the tier of Replies?

[@Thelegoterrapin]

Grubby wondering about Olympic sports was S tier for sure

[@Torenhire]

I love weatherman Grubby. I could also listen to Grubby talk about WC3 history basically forever.

[@Jassu323]

Grubby stalling on the Orc unit tier list because he knows he needs at least 4 hours to discuss it.

[@jphysics]

I always let the orcs finish me off

[@Jack_Rakan]

He needs the time to come up with reasons to put every unit in S tier

[@mahockey3]

These tierlists got me back into WC3 after...about 17 years lmao

[@sharpasacueball]

I miss playing custom maps with friends

[@tanzenderbuchstabe9539]

@@sharpasacueball I feel that. We had great lan parties where we played all kinds of fun maps.

[@SirDebest]

Same

[@Garviel_Loken.]

They got me playing campaign again 😂

[@primary2630]

Same but I'm just playing the campaigns

[@naminami4622]

1:39:09 the Gnoll Wood rant 😁 thank you Grubby for vocalizing why I've always hated this map😂

[@jesuseinstein4706]

1:16:55 this was such an iconic moment. Was live in the crowd cheering for you :). Had never imagined you could really win this, always hoped, but moon was just that strong and night elf so much better than orc. You lost the first game and the second was on a knives edge, but hell you played so amazing. Khaldor screaming was the cherry on top, one of my favourite casters of all time. Seeing you at the end standing there with the durch flag around your shoulders and a pretty devastated moon. So long back in the past, how time flys by, I just recently started my study at this point in 2008 :).

[@GrubbyTalks]

One of the best memories ever. Thank you for being there sharing the moment haha

[@aleksitjvladica.]

How can I find that to watch?!

[@jesuseinstein4706]

​@@aleksitjvladica. Just search in youtube, dont know if it is allowed to post links. grubby vs moon wcg 2008 You will find even a rehearseal from Grubby himself on his channel of all 3 games. Do not know if there is an english version, but the german one is the most legendary with the live stage commentary from Khaldor.

[@aleksitjvladica.]

@@jesuseinstein4706 Thank you. I know German enough.

[@njg76173]

The Tyler1 tournament reintroduced me to WC3 and I don't even watch that guy. Grubby's commentary sold me on the depth and complexity of this game I hadn't played since I was 13. Now I'm binging all the content!

[@AngRyGohan]

Goddamn Grubby leaving Orc unit ranking for last

[@Chesterr.B]

I've been waiting for the Orc tier list and was a bit dissapointed when I see this video. But 15 minutes in, man this is even BETTER than a units tier list.

[@umamifriends]

I havent played this game in like 15 years and I still have positive associations with Twisted Meadows

[@xPeej]

Best map! 🙏

[@ericmartin70287]

I think its a great 2v2 map. I hated playing maps like this as an orc who didnt scout well, as orcs must be reactionary.

[@Bethos1247-Arne]

I think I remember the Moon vs Grubby game. And the other game vs Moon, 2008 in Cologne, I watched it live. I WAS THERE. Moon and Grubby started on the opposite side of the grid, so a finals with there two would theoretically be possible. And then, they both went to the finals. Going to the venue, I saw Grubby and Cassandra, both smiling but slightly tense. I held my "Grubby FTW" sign high during the match, and the night before I added "2004 2008" hoping for another Grubby championship.

[@19-adi53]

For those who are curious, the teammate that grubby is talking about is ToD. During 2006, Grubby and ToD quite surprisingly met each other quite often in the grandfinals despite being a teammate which may be the reason why he didn't want to practice with grubby.

[@ecaxas3415]

1:51:22 My God Grubby! I love the way you express yourself! Hillarious! Love all of your content and I'm learning soo much that I had no idea about when it comes to Good 'Ol WC3!

[@KharlozPT]

if only i had a way to show these ranking videos to my 2003-2004 self

[@ProphecyxOffic]

I almost never comment but I love your channels! Also, we need an item tier list

[@umamifriends]

something about this channel is incredibly compelling; I'm so hype for these tier lists and I haven't played in like 15 years hahah

[@Kalenz1234]

Since a healing fountain heals ALL the units around it it also scales with the number of units being healed which evens itself out. During a fight near a healing fountain however high hp units have an advantage because of focus fire.

[@rshreyas28]

I am not at all surprised that Turtle Rock is the longest segment in this video lol.. loved that rant. Those adjacent spawns were wild times.

[@aurorasun-qs1pg]

I haven't played in 20 years but this still of great interest to the little cluster of neurons i have buried in my brain somewhere. I love these talks while I'm on the bike or treadmill.

[@TofuofLight]

52:20 is Grubby’s resident evil merchant impression and i love it

[@flieskiller3059]

I saw the title and thought "Twisted Meadows better be at the top", such a great map with so many dynamics and variety. Not surprised it's alone at the top, and interesting it's a 4-players map that has the #1 spot too

[@narrator3530]

Create a hero using abilities of the already existing heroes so that you create your ideal hero

[@sergritm]

sooo, ability draft?

[@elrondmcbong6392]

Warstomp + blink + endurance aura or cleave + avatar

[@jerryguo2695]

Brilliance+endurance+unholy pog

[@antarath517]

Scout, Death Pact, Engineering Upgrade, and Reincarnation (so that you get to keep using this awesome hero)

[@HellecticMojo]

Panda ult, arch mage aura, hex, stormbolt.

[@KuramaEL]

damn it man.... I only have 60 min a day for watching videos of games i don't play anymore and now I gotta put 2 slots in for this? shiet. ok, I guess.

[@Reitoxy]

These tier lists are great Grubby. I love the trips down memory lane of the history of the game, the meta and your experiences you touch on in these videos. I would love a dedicated video on the evolution of the meta and innovations in the competive space from 2002 onwards. You're such an innovator yourself you could discuss how and why you approached certain challenges, but also your experience and reaction to early pioneers such as Insomnia, DayFly and MaDFroG. Like at the start of this video you said that UD would rather race swap to Orc mirror on Maelstrom in 2004 and my question is why? I know this was a trend even on Lost Temple that UD would raceswap to avoid Orc, but what specifically about the matchup/map were they trying to avoid?

[@charlesc4511]

I humbly request a summonable units (from spells and items) tier list.

[@TheTodesrolle]

grubby do you know the cheesy red creep spot strat with human archmage at lvl 1 on Last Refuge? You rush hero + shop buy two critters. Bring your critters in position next to the goldmine to block the melee creeps, but let a gap for your hero. pull the creeps with 1-2 units away. get your hero in position behind the goldmine and start casting blizzard on the range units until they die. the critters block the melee units from reaching your hero. this strat is really risky but really fun to pull of.

[@pepelich7941]

I know it isnt a 1v1 map, but I loved back then to play "friends" as a 4v4. It had some issues with creep camps (because there are like no camps ;D), but still like the concept of having a mate directly nearby.

[@deadbeatffs]

so much nostalgia about these maps. Thanks Grubby for great insights and tactics shared that affected balance of the maps. Absolute fun to watch and know it and to relive some of the moments i had on this map (though i never played wc3 professionally)

[@thomasdavis8254]

“He lifted me and I felt more limbs than two” what did you mean by this grubby 😂

[@KimiiiRaikkonen]

Loved the acting, you are very good at enacting the murlock!. Lovely 2 hours of watch. I did not do it all in one go, but it's cool to come back to aswell and watch after I've played a certain map :)

[@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw]

I didn't realize the new Echo Isles changed so much! I will have to give it a try.

[@decem_sagittae]

Man this is the best series you ever made. Keep the tier lists coming. 💪💪💪

[@SheenLampaya]

Your shady merchant impersonation is on point, I almost wished I could buy those claws.

[@7oorum]

I love this format. I never would have thought about a map tier list. But here it is. Very entertaining! I wish I knew it years ago when I was trying to join local competitive tournaments...

[@POWerrrrlGrind]

Nice video Grubb! But could u try next time open maps in editor and show everything inside? items, models ways and etc. would be so cool!

[@altairx_]

I'm working on an Altered Melee map rn, and the amount of info in this vid is so much helpful for me especially the balancing aspect!

[@codybrama1270]

Listening to Grubby is making me want to play WC3 again, I wasn't very good but so many good memories of it, and it would be cool to learn NE properly haha

[@theredestbull]

Gnoll Wood is awesome if you play muliple games of 3on3 or 2on2on2 with your mates and switch starting spots around

[@brunoandrespadillanavarro8923]

1:50:05 just came for the murlock impression. It was on Terenas Stand's briefing.

[@istvangyorki6314]

Man I love this analysis. When Grubby said one of his big passions is teaching, I totally see! Awesome insights!

[@Nuvizzle]

I think it's interesting/a bit of a shame that we had so few classic competitive maps that used different tilesets. WC3 has such a wide range of tilesets but between creep balance and just the fact that outlands, barrens, snow, etc. aren't as easy on the eyes, my memories of WC3 will always just be green.

[@GrubbyTalks]

WC3, truly is, evergreen

[@streltsov-kun1088]

such a detailed tier list, at first I didn't think that it will be longer than 30 min vid... tbh never thought about all these map's specifics.. God I love this game.

[@cyberjesus9971]

At first: "2 hour video sounds way too long" At the end: "WE WANT MORE!"

[@ira233]

We need a tier list of neutral creeps!

[@einzenberg2527]

That market place insight and creep camp item drop is some next level game knowledge. I'm not even playing the game anymore since 2014, but boy do I want to know more about it.

[@Kakerate2]

1:40:00 thats not a tavern right, its a gobbo lab iirc? I just rmember there being a granite golem there lol

[@Shepardicus]

i love these tier lists. randomly fell into your channel after watching Artosis lose his mind after getting spanked by a 4pool. now I'm itching to replay wc3, which I haven't done since it was released.

[@SFH_Stuff]

Turtle Rock is my favorite map ever. It was very interesting to learn pro players perspective, and I get why some things are problematic, but for me there is nothing more fun than Turtle Rock. The fact that you could spawn right next to each other just added to fun for me. On the level I used to play nobody was doing militia rush or crazy stuff like that. But tower rush? All the time. And it was always fine with me.

[@snkudryavtsev]

One issue Grubby didn’t mention about TurtleRock was a lightning shield drop from the second spot on the default creeproute. That single drop was instantly turning HvH mirror into a terrible mess. You just LS your footmen into your opponents base and their peasants are just dead, especially on closer respawns. And everyone was aware about it. It was addressed later in patches, but while it was with us TR was a Russian roulette for human.

[@killtie15]

Last time I played this was in 2007. This is relevant to my interests, let the talking commence.

[@StrobeFireStudios]

The moving finger pointer is absolutely amazing. I see Grubby tier list, I instantly stop working and watch in entirety.

[@alexanderoakland2607]

These tier lists have gotten me and my bro back into WC3. I think these tier lists have been some of the most effective advertising WC3 has seen in a long time

[@tonu5393]

THIS IS THE CONTENT WE WANT BABY!!

[@dizietz]

Amazing job with this video especially having both the map + the name in the tier list!

[@CyanMentality]

Dude your passion and knowledge is heckin compelling, really appreciate the insight Grubby. I can't not learn something lol

[@Tillit_01]

"Who cut the cheese" - after living 8 years in the Netherlands, yes. I concur.

[@MichaelThorne_za]

This was so entertaining and nostalgic! Thanks Grubby. ❤

[@Auralain]

Grubby restoring lost memories from my childhood

[@friskydrinklunkybank1108]

Its so cool learning about the marketplace. I never knew it worked that way.

[@Zahk_noodle]

17:13 I love how you compare a good map the same way as how chess openings work, where you have options for sequential creeping routes and expansion (in Chess's case: positioning your pieces for strong area coverage) or harassing your opponents in an early rush which all depends on your play style! 😄

[@tillhaferkorn6263]

Awesome video!! :-) But what about Hammerfall, Tidehunters and Gloom Stalker?

[@atemdm-roleplaying9398]

No matter the subject I love hearing someone passionate talking about things they are intimately familiar about.

[@ericmartin70287]

You talking about gnoll wood and peon scouting brought back memories of similar frestration. I generally thumbs down maps I had to scout as orc, but if I played 2v2 with my brother, I would have to scout. Countless peons were sacrificed.

[@porionq]

Thank you so much sensei for those vids! Starting my journey with w3 and already learned a lot thanks to you

[@veo16]

In addition to a tier list, a “map review” series would be incredible. Pointing things out for each race to look out for. Timings, particulars about the creep camps, and so forth.

[@dennis135]

Turtle Rock also had the 3 archer solo creeping the big turtle strategy. Truely a broken map but super fun

[@sitrilko]

51:45 what the heck, that part sounded like a 180IQ postdoc talking about his research into rotating black holes

[@justanobody0]

at around 146, you know the funny thing about your (Grubby's) story about gnollwood first you talk about how asymetric the map is, and about what a problem it is that one location has a tavern right next to the base, so only they have really easy access, while another player it's far the funny thing is, your story at 146, the close tavern ends up not being used by you, but by your opponent to get a firelord (which was kind of not the problem you were saying was the map's issue :P)

[@kevingause9526]

This is my favorite tier list so far. Especially like hearing the reasons why the map is balanced or not And the history of it

[@the_kovic]

I missed the Dalaran map in the tierlist.

[@NFRSM]

where would you put tidehunters mr grubby?

[@Maqya]

*me who has only ever played the campaign and never touched the online maps* Hell yeah I’ll watch a 2 hour video about online maps

[@henrymapleton]

Loving all these tier lists! Can't wait for the items and creeps tier lists XD

[@MiguelAnton1994]

Where can I watch the Grubby Undead vs Le mysterious human player on Turtle rock? I cannot find it anywhere.

[@plasmathunderdx]

Grubby if you're trying to delay the orc tier list maybe make a neutral unit/merc unit tier list

[@mattachtemeier5296]

Never thought about how important the maps can be for strategy. More !

[@mahghuuuls]

I am loving the tier lists!

[@abbemartensson3850]

These are fun to listen to while I am doing the dishes or cleaning. Thanks

[@igorignaz5319]

whats with hammerfall, gloom Stalker, shattered Exile, tidehunters and all the other w3c maps. do you consider them bad or could u also talk about them?

[@nharj7674]

can you make a tier list of your previous tier lists please

[@game_jinx]

i dont play warcraft 3 anymore. but i did watch GSL this morning. reynor was casting for tasteless....meaning arty and tasteless were likely with david kim.... anyway. have you ever tried the turn based strategy games.... NOWHERE PROPHET or STAR RENEGADES? goodluck grubster

[@JanSolil]

YO I GOT AN IDEA after you make the final Orc unit tier list maybe you can take all the races in one video and add to those tier lists the merc camp and goblin shop units?? And ofc talk about why and when to buy them and stuff :D Also it would be an awesome bait for anyone who didn't watch the previous tier list to go watch it :DD

[@JohnnyTightIips]

This will be a perfect accompaniment to my walk later. Thanks Grubbo!

[@wallawise1884]

This channel is exactly what I needed at work. Great job 👏

[@Soul_Revenant]

Of course Grubby drops a map tier list while we’re all chomping at the bit waiting for the Orc (master race) tier list!

[@Delebriel]

Weird question. Does WC3 have colorblind settings? I cannot tell the difference between orange, green and yellow camps at all.

[@justanobody0]

so, I'm only a few minutes in you brought up maelstrom and how it is partial to orcs, but my question is where would it rank on the tier list (you never ranked it when you talked about it, although maybe you do later on)

[@andrewregrets]

None of these are compatible with an old warcraft 3 client (before reforged), aren't they? If so, are there any good old 1vs1 competitive maps that were used back in the day?

[@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw]

Do you know if there is a way to set the Warcraft 3 map editor graphics back to the original? I'm looking at maps and they are so ugly using the new editor that I wish there was a toggle option like there is in the main game to go back to classic graphics.

[@saltifate]

i came here to check how the editor managed all the movement by grubby back there

[@kzxkzxkzx]

1:08:23 I remember back in the days watching a replay of you playing as an Undead on that map and I thought to myself how unusal to see you as an Undead... 🙂

[@Cgxy2024]

Turtle rock is a place near Blizzard HQ in Irvine, California. 😊

[@GCP963]

Grubby should do an entire video on why Twisted is the WC3 map GOAT.

[@TheAquaRover]

I would love to see an item tier list. What are the most powerful item drops in 1v1?

[@canceledlogic7656]

Revenge of the Creeps map with the raining infernals and waves of enemy neutrals would be kind of funny: force the 1v1 to actually be 1v1v1

[@StormLord94]

Hey Grubby please make a GrubbyTalks about different damage and armor types and maybe the most common units for each!, thank you for the content

[@elementaltamago1297]

Nice, I had been wondering why creep pulling had changed!!

[@brunospasta]

He really went all in into that tier list stuff :D